CNN Asks, Is Bill O’Reilly Comment on Race an ‘Imus Moment?’

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CNN co-host Kiran Chetry and CNN contributor Roland Martin, in a segment on Tuesday’s "American Morning," discussed comments on race Fox News host Bill O’Reilly had recently made on his radio show, and the question you might expect came up: "Is this going to be one of those Don Imus moments?"

Chetry asked this question to Martin due to some blogs "buzzing" over O’Reilly’s comments about a visit he made to a "soul food" restaurant in the Harlem neighborhood of New York City with Al Sharpton. Martin denied that this was going to be O’Reilly’s "Imus moment."

O’Reilly, in a conversation with NPR host and Fox contributor Juan Williams, had said of his visit to Sylvia’s Restaurant in Harlem, "I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, ‘M-Fer, I want more iced tea.’ They were ordering and having fun, and it wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

In the context of the discussion about O’Reilly’s comments, Martin launched an attack on conservative media bias watchdogs like MRC. "This is one of those moments why I think what Bill O'Reilly should do is not sit there and go on the war path and say, ‘I'm being attacked, poor me.’ I mean, you have conservative web sites that attack us all the time for so-called liberal bias."

The full transcript of the segment from Tuesday’s "American Morning," which took place in the last quarter of the 7 am Eastern hour.

[Update - 3 pm Eastern: Since CNN went after a competitor at Fox News, the question should be asked, will they go after a stereotypical remark by a competitor at MSNBC? Keith Olbermann, in his gig on NBC's "Football Night in America," made a comment about black NFL player Roscoe Parrish during the show's September 9 broadcast. "With the Denver drive having stalled, Roscoe Parrish on the punt return. Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles at its finest. He could go the entire distance and does and it's seven-zip Bills." For those who don't know about "chicken and waffles," it's a dish served at "soul food" restaurants.]

KIRAN CHETRY: Well, the blogs are buzzing this morning over some comments made by Bill O'Reilly during last Wednesday's edition of his nationally syndicated radio program. O'Reilly was discussing race. He brought up a recent trip to have dinner with the Reverend Al Sharpton at Sylvia's. It's a famous restaurant in Harlem. Here's what he said.

BILL O'REILLY (voice-over): I think black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves. There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, ‘M-Fer, I want more iced tea.’ They were ordering and having fun, and it wasn't any kind of craziness at all.

CHETRY: Well, joining us now in New York is CNN contributor and the host of the ‘Roland Martin Show’ - Roland Martin joins us now. It's being simulcast, by the way, on WVON. Good morning, Roland.

ROLAND MARTIN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: How are you doing?

CHETRY: Did you have a chance to read the entire transcript, as well as the conversation he was having with NPR host and Fox contributor, Juan Williams.

MARTIN: Well, it turns aside. It was interesting, obviously. They were having a conversation, talking about the context was, you know, how people get their views, in terms of their criticism of hip- hop and rap music. But you know what, I still don't buy it. I just don't buy it because, even if you may have a view of African-Americans based on particular rap artist from a song, I mean, you need to live in a different world, as opposed to thinking somehow that that's just it.

CHETRY: Right. So, he went on to say, ‘I think that black Americans are starting to think more and more for themselves, getting away from the Sharptons and the Jacksons and people trying to lead them into a race-based culture.’ He says that all of this was taken out of context, and that he didn't have a racial intent. Do you buy that?

MARTIN: Well, first of all, I mean, you can make a dumb comment and not have a racial intent. I mean, you can have a racial intent or ignorance intent. And so, my problem is this notion that somehow African-Americans are ‘starting’ to think for themselves, as if we haven't been thinking beforehand. I mean, last I checked, I didn't hand over my brain to Reverend Sharpton, Reverend Jackson. So, it's nuts. It’s nuts. Not only that, and here's what bothers me. This notion that education, they're looking at, we'll get educated and I can work hard. You know, Condoleezza Rice -- her dad, in 1954 was saying that. He wasn't involved in the civil rights movement. African-Americans always said, ‘work hard, get an education,’ and so, somehow, it's just starting now. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. So maybe, Bill ought to talk to some more African-Americans, to get a better view than his hang up with Reverend Sharpton and Reverend Jackson.

CHETRY: But the interesting thing is that he said this after, and the context was that he was at dinner with Reverend Al Sharpton who, by the way, is not weighing in on this. We talked to him this morning. He declined to come on our show. I believe he was over on Fox this morning, but he was not talking about this issue. Is this going to be one of those Don Imus moments or do you think that...?

MARTIN: No, I don't think it is going it be a Don Imus moment because the bottom line is, Bill O'Reilly has made comments that people have been found in controversy before [sic]. But I think the broader issue, Kiran, and this is what is most important, is that people need to understand that you should not get a view of a certain people based upon a stereotype, and based upon thinking this is what it is. I mean, you need to expand your view. Talk to people. You know, look, I took exception to Glenn Beck when he said , ‘Hey I don't have any black friends because I'm afraid I might say something that might offend them.’ That's nonsense to me as well. I think what people need to do is get out of their own little world and realize that there are other people out here and it's not all based on, just a couple of African-Americans who are very prominent, who are activists and think, that's just it. That is ridiculous. And so, wake up, Bill O'Reilly, and wake up, anybody else who thinks like that.

CHETRY: But see, that was the interesting thing, because he almost seems to, as he goes on in this discussion with Juan Williams, sort of make that point that you're saying. He's saying that a lot of, this was his quote, he said that, ‘I think a lot of white Americans, particularly people who don't have a lot of interactions with black Americans, think the culture is dominated by Ludacris, Snoop Dog,’ and Juan Williams interrupted and said, ‘I know, it's awful, it's awful, because it's literally the sewer come to the surface, and now, people take it that the sewer is the whole story.’ So, is he echoing your point?

MARTIN: Well, but here's the deal though. So, okay, first of all, is that true? All right. I mean, you look at, you talk about Ludacris. Excuse me, I believe a Stanley O'Neil, who runs Merrill Lynch; I believe a Kenneth Chenault, who runs American Express; and a Dick Parsons who runs Time Warner, have a heck of a lot more power and influence than a Ludacris or some other rapper. So, I'm not going to give some hip-hopper that much credence. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Okay? Also, use your platform, Bill O'Reilly, to talk about those individuals, as well. No, he's fixated on rappers, somehow thinking that is actually what black culture is all about. That is what doesn't make any sense to me. And what bothered me was when he said that he was surprised that there was no difference between Sylvia's and someone else. Well, why would you be surprised? Have you not gone to a black restaurant before? I mean, I don't go to a Mexican restaurant, and somehow think that there is a band in the back stuffed with twenty folks who just crossed the border. No, I don't operate on stereotypes. I see that as a business, and I say people have napkins and forks and knives and they sit down and they eat. But he was ‘surprised.’

CHETRY: I think that's what some people are taking issue with. The comments though, were made almost a week ago. Now, word is starting to spread. He actually spoke to our Rick Sanchez. He called it a ‘hatchet job’ by the MediaMatters.org. I think that was web site that sort of took his comments and put other comments there. So, is there going to be - is he going to have to address this publicly?

MARTIN: Well, you know what, I think he should and, again, you know, we talked about the ‘teachable moments,’ Kiran. This is one of those moments why I think what Bill O'Reilly should do is not sit here and go on the war path and say, ‘I'm being attacked, poor me.’ I mean, you have conservative web sites that attack us all the time for so-called liberal bias. I think what Bill O'Reilly should do is say, ‘Hey, let's have a conversation.’ He has a great platform. He should use his radio show to say, ‘Hey, let's talk about this here.’ Do you actually believe that is the view of African-Americans? Have you gone to a black restaurant? Do you even understand African-American culture? Get beyond the nonsense, and also Bill, talk to African-Americans who do believe in education, and you don't walk around just somehow thinking that we're just starting to get it, we're starting to think for ourselves. No, I've been black 38 years and have been thinking for myself for a long time.

CHETRY: All right. Roland Martin, always great to get your take, WRLL in New York. Thanks for being with us this morning, Roland. Good to have you on the show.

MARTIN: Thanks a bunch, appreciate it.

—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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It's only an "Imus Moment",

It's only an "Imus Moment", if O'Reilly and FoxNews allows it to become one. They should just ignore it. Once it's addressed by them, the whole thing snowballs...

It's not an "Imus moment,"

It's not an "Imus moment," though I don't think Imus' moment was an "Imus moment" to the degree that most did.

It was a monumentally STUPID comment. That's about it.

  Bal, Don Imus is

Bal, Don Imus is a bitter old guy who used brutal scathing "humor" against a lot of people. He picked on a bunch of girls who didn't warrant such brutality, if they warranted any humor directed towards them, at all. Given his history, it was probably only a matter of time before something like this happened...

Imus' comment was

Imus' comment was monumentally stupid, too. But I don't think it was worthy of the controversy or ridiculous reaction of the Rutgers bball team.

just checking bal... when

just checking bal...

when kanye west says something like "nappy headed ho's" is that also stupid? if not then why not...? If so then why does he still have his job?

yours truly,

TM

It's not as much stupid

It's not as much stupid coming from him as it is just offensive.

The only reason for the

The only reason for the original "Imus moment" was that the phony Duke rape case was going full strength, and the MSM was fomenting racial hatred against white men. No Duke phony rape case, no "Imus moment".

Charlotte.com, the

Charlotte.com, the Charlotte OBserver(liberal rag), has this story headlined right now under there news section.

 

looks like the MSM is trying to stir something up, after Jena last week....it makes you wonder how good things in Iraq must be going right now?

So maybe, Bill ought to

So maybe, Bill ought to talk to some more African-Americans, to get a better view than his hang up with Reverend Sharpton and Reverend Jackson.

That's Bill's point Dumb $$$! Why doesn't the media start talking to more African-Americans than having the "reverends" on speed dial.

Exactly.  Typical lame CNN

Exactly.  Typical lame CNN attempt to silence a superior competitor be creating a phony controversy.  Back to the drawing board, Clintonistas.

If I'm not mistaken,

If I'm not mistaken, O'Reilly was making the point that your average black guy does NOT go around spewing the kind of stuff that comes out of rappers' mouths.

That's a BAD thing??????

That in and of itself is

That in and of itself is not a bad point, but it sounds like he was surprised they weren't talking like gangstas, shooting up the joint, slapping hos.

So now you're going to hold

So now you're going to hold him responsible for your no doubt skewed perception of his non-verbal communication?  There's no point indulging you or your liberal ilk.

What in the world are you

What in the world are you talking about? Did I say I was holding him responsible for anything other than making a stupid comment? I'm baffled.

That in and of itself is

That in and of itself is not a bad point, but it sounds like he was surprised they weren't talking like gangstas, shooting up the joint, slapping hos.

OK, Balboa.  What were you saying, then?

fittyfong

I was saying that the statement that BOR "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." makes it SOUND like BOR was surprised at the behavior in the restaurant. "SOUND" being what the statement appears to be saying, not the actual intonation or inflection in his delivery.

It sounds like CNN, MSNBC

It sounds like CNN, MSNBC and you are splitting hairs...desperately trying to create a controversy where none exists.  I'm afraid you're well wide of the mark on this one.  Better luck next time.

So tell me, fitty, what

So tell me, fitty, what does it sound like to you when you hear those words from BOR.

The non sequitur that it

The non sequitur that it is.  I suppose if he said something really offensive, we could concoct the botched joke excuse...but we're better than that.

Hollywood Stereotypes.

The problem is to much of tv portraits Blacks as from the streets.All this gangster bs.That is a crock.They dont show much of the real world.Anyone who doesnt use the tv as their social monitor knows better.It is like all blacks are from the hood.It is bs.Just a note:When I was in the Army the only people I met from "Boston" projects were Southies.Hell my cousins lived there.MSM is also bad about perpetualting the myth.I cant talk for BOR but he seemed like he was trying to point out that Blacks are no different from anyone else.It isnt like they are a bunch of "Gangsters" like they are portrayed as by different media outlets.

Think of the black

Think of the black characters on TV shows, though. They're mostly pretty positive. From ER to Grey's Anatomy to Lincoln Heights even. It's not all gangsta all the time.

Some

Still even the Doctors are from the "street".It is like there is no working class,middle class or wealthy?Which is lame.There are many sucessful people and they didnt play sports or do rap.More should be portrayed.Enough of this .."I am from the streets".

Still even the Doctors are

Still even the Doctors are from the "street".

Not all of them. On Gray's they're affluent. Dr. Benton on ER wasn't "street." You're right that there aren't enough shown as being wealthy or middle class, but we're getting there. 

True

I just like see more effort put in it.Get away from the stereotypes.That is like saying all Irish are drunks.That isnt true.The one guy that wasnt was deported though.J/K Couldnt resist..My great grandfather came over on the boat and didnt drink.

Rabid CNN

Yes, in CNN world, refuting racial stereotypes is bad... somehow....

Don't ask anyone to explain, though.

So Bill mentions a commonly

So Bill mentions a commonly held stereotype (even in their OWN minds) and he gets the gauntlet thrown at him.  Joy Behar equates ALL conservatives to Klansmen and she gets an audience applause.

 

Im against all racism but I would love to see someone create a mix where O'Reilly says his lil bit on this and someone then cuts directly to the audience applause from the view after Joy made her rediculously, retarded comment.  It'd be a laugh riot for the anti-PC.

Why doesn't the MSM ever

Why doesn't the MSM ever address HRC's black accent when in front of black gatherings?

To me that is waaayy more insulting than observing the stereo-types of black neighborhoods, as portrayed in Hollywood movies and extreme rap music, just aren't accurate.

Puh-leeze ...

The far-left is frantically desperate to get Bill O'Reilly off the air, and they are resorting to this foolishness.

This is a sour-grapes attempt by CNN to take a slap at O'Reilly. Bill is absolutely trouncing CNN and all his competition, and he has done so for years now.

This is yet another ridiculous and pathetic display by the far left.

Is nobody else

A bit bothered by the fact that authoritarian populist/statists like Bill simply do not deserve to eat foods as good as cornbread & collard greens?? ;)
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.

Cornbread and collard

I grew up on cornbread, black eyed peas, fired chicken, and turnip greens, etc.   (I didn't get into collards until I moved to eastern NC.) What we ate was not called soul food. It was just a typical meal. 

A bona fide and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class.

I would guess you didn't

I would guess you didn't grow up in the 70's then. That's when black southern cooking became "soul food" and very popular. That's when "Roots" was huge, "Black is Beautiful" was the catch-phrase of the day, and the Afro was king.

My family was poor, from

My family was poor, from Oklahoma, and we ate all this so called "Soulfood".  Nothing "soul" about it; it's just stuff you lived on.

My family wasn't "poor" (well maybe by today's govt standards)

And we ate the same food....only we called it Southern cooking.   Still eat it, still call it Southern cooking....

Same here...and I make a

Same here...and I make a mean pot of black-eyed peas and ham hocks...with cornbread and honey.

None of us had names for it..it was just food.

LMAO!

Hoppin' John on New Year's Day

...for good luck?

Yup

Also grits..mmmm add butter and life is good.One of the benefits of being a military brat is you move to different parts of country.Favorite meals in the Army Fried chicken,Sos, and grits.Must be dinner time!

I had the same experience

I had the same experience growing up in an Italian family. We ate a lot of "peasant food" from recipes my grandmother brought from the "old country." Some of those same dishes (Like Pasta fagiole; that's pronouned "fa-zool", not fa-jolie) are now offered at premium prices at places like Olive Garden.

I almost lost it the last time I was in Olive Garden and the server helpfully explained that "Pasta Fagiole" was "like an Italian chili."

I had to take deep breaths.

That's right

LOL!  That's great - that is the real issue here.

Too Long for an Imus Moment

The poor MSM. Bill did not give the MSM a two second sound bite they can use. Without that they have nothing.

Imus gave them "nappy haired ..."

Bill at worst sounds like a wrapper. They have nothing. Fifteen seconds is too long for the MSM. Too many words and concepts.

Bill is home free on this one. 

 

How can such a pretty woman

How can such a pretty woman be such a disgraceful reporter by trying to stir things up like this?

mm.... Sell your soul for

mm....

Sell your soul for $$$$$$$$....plus possible fame and fortune.

You folks don't understand how the news works

Now-a-days, it's the producers that have all the say on what the stories are and how they are covered and who is/are the guests, etc. They reveiw and approve all the scripts and tightly control everything. Unless the "anchor" is a very powerful and senior "correspondent".

Keiran Chetry is so junior that she is nothing more than a teleprompter reader.



The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com

Wow... Funny thing the

Wow...

Funny thing the msm...

I heard this exact thing on msnbc and Morning Joe...

Seems the rival networks have the same green-eyed problem and nothing better to do, like look inside their own leftist pathetic pitiful networks.

BT, Seems that accusation

BT,

Seems that accusation of racism is now the preferred method to eliminate the perceived enemies of liberals. If expressed hatred against Conservatives were the standard, the entire MSM would practically disappear...

Thanks!

Thanks for the tip! My colleague here at MRC  hasn't gotten to looking at that segment from "Morning Joe" yet, so I'm going to check it out.

Matthew B... If memory

Matthew B...

If memory serves me (which I do not count on completely) it was very early on in the show...if that helps.

BT, beer kills brain

BT, beer kills brain cells:-)

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Hey bass.... Whats that

Hey bass....

Whats that suppose to mean?

Haven't had any beer in weeks...now that I think about it though a nice cold one sounds good.

he he he he....I had a few

he he he he....I had a few over the weekend at the lake:-)

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Chetry needs a Man Friend

It boggles the mind how Chetry can sit there straight faced reporting this garbage like it is something that actually matters. Here is a woman who starved herself into short skirt, pretty smile, come hither my boss looks in order to advance a career of pogo sticks and "blame white guys for being white".

Somewhere these people need a soul redo as where was Chetry when Keith Ellison stated, "YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE"......and the people he was referring to were WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRISTIANS.

O'Reilly should repeat what he said and add to it. It is time blacks get their slavery culture's bell rung even louder as bangers on the street know the Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton get the gravy and all the get is busted for dealing dope the Jack and Jill crowd snort up with the mayor. Blacks have to think for themselves as following liberals like Charles Rangel has only got them into a reverse situation where they are not thinking college but prison in most cities while young black, white and hispanic girls are baby makers for daddy out having fun.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

MSM

I've said it before and I'll say it again---the MSM has made "journalism" nothing but backyard gossip---"Did you hear what he said?"... "Oh yes, he's just a little racist, isn't he"... " Yeah, and come closer, I've got a secret for you, pss,pss, pss". It's The View on steroids. Scheeze!

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

"Bill is home free on this

"Bill is home free on this one."

I`m not so sure about that. This story is spreading like wildfire. The Charlotte Observer, the AP, CBS, salon.com, and BET.com have all picked up on it. Considering libs believe FoxNews is staffed by nothing but racists and uncle toms, this could hurt O`Reilly big time.  I don`t believe he`s racist, but it was a stupid comment and he should have known how the left would spin it.

all right, y'all stop it now

I hear any more talk of homemade corn bread and other southern goodies and I'm gonna have to blamy y'all for my diet failure:P

Why is this surprising?

There may be something to this, but it's not surprising.  Hey, we live in a racialized society, so every now and then, someone in the main stream press is going to say something like this.  The real issue is that race is still being used to divide people, when economic differences are what really matter.

Joe Biden's comment about

Joe Biden's comment about Obama wasn't an "Imus moment?"

 Wierd

I SAID IT BEFORE...

O'Reilly is racist? What a joke, like I said in post about BathTubBoy's "white wing" story here, this guy made a remark during his NBC football duties about "Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles" during a highlight segment when the Bills Roscoe Parrish ran a punt 74 yards for a TD.

I mentioned Imus, I can mention what happened to Rush on ESPN for his comments about McNabb. Jimmy"the Greek"Snyder got sacked about "selective breeding"comments-not entirely a lie, but very un-PC, even then. Orrrrr Howard Cosell getting the sack for reffering to Redskins WR Alvin Garrett ( I believe )as "that little monkey, Garrett was maybe 5'9". Never mind that Cossell was the MAIN defender of Muhammad Ali during his Vietnam War service exemption controversy. The Jew defending the Black Muslim, but Cossell was the racist, yeah right!!

We have race problems, but much of the "controversy" we see today is stirred up by a hyper-sensitive politically correct media culture that has made guys like Jackson & Sharpton (the Just-Us Bros. Because it's all about us- just us)stars. How the black civil rights"leadership" has fallen.

 

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

Well, a Rutgers basketball

Well, a Rutgers basketball player has filed a lawsuit against Imus, NBC, and CBS;

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3479449

I wonder if the customers (can the lawyers be far behind?) in that restaurant will attempt to do the same with O`Reilly and FoxNews.

Bill should just bring Al

Bill should just bring Al Sharpton on his show and if Al has no problem with what he said then this will die quickly..because as we know the MSM has chosen Al to be the spokesman's on whats racist or not.

 

Well I just found out Bill will have Al on so this could all end Wednesday..if Al backs Bill.

 

"If the mothers ruled the world there would be no god**** wars in the first place." Sally Fields

Yea Mothers like Susan Smith and Andrea Yates.

Now I know where she belongs...

Kiran Chetry definitely belongs at the Clinton News Network - it's very apparent that she was hiding her closet liberalism at FNC during her years there. 

She made no attempt to defend her former FNC associate but systematically dangled the bait in front of Martin during this interview to get him to attack O'Reilly. 

Traitor.

Never dance on an empty stomach unless it's a liberal.

 

golden.... She did an

golden....

She did an excellent job hiding it too didn't she?

Don't give Kiran too rough a time

I watch "American Morning" most days, and I have to say, she is definitely more "fair and balanced" than her fellow co-host, John Roberts. So, Fox News definitely rubbed off on her. But even John Roberts has his moments, most recently with his interview of the Columbia dean on Ahmadinejad earlier this week.

}}---> Bill don't back down from nuthin'

This may be CNN's Imus moment.

Let's trust that Blacks are tired of being told what to think.  I believe they are.

Why do we fail so miserably at exposing the cost of 40 years of Democrat pandering.

It happens in Democrat controlled counties and municipalities over and over.  Houston, Cleveland, Chicago, Los Angeles.

These are all cities run rampant by plantation daddys who trot out the "Black leader" at election time only to trot them back to the bunkhouse after they've won.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Boyce Watkins was just on

Boyce Watkins was just on CNN. He compared O`Reilly to Iran`s Ahmadinejad, and said Juan Williams of FoxNews is nothing but a "happy negro." I guess thats the same as an uncle tom.

Rev Al

I have the Dirtiest Dirt on the so called 'Reverened' Al Sharpton.

http://www.maytheygetwhattheydeserve.com/ReverendAl.html

I'm reading old news here,

I'm reading old news here, but I think it's funny the author didn't know there is a "Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles," it's not just an allusion to black culture.

 http://www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com/ 

 Might want to swing by there and get some lunch.