Besides omitting Iran’s terror ties in their coverage Iranian president Ahmadinejad’s planned visit to Ground Zero in New York City, as Scott Whitlock noted in his earlier post, ABC and CBS, as well as NBC, failed to mentioned that Ahmadinejad is also giving a lecture at Columbia University. The lecture, sponsored by the University, is planned on September 24, the same day Ahmadinejad will be addressing the United Nations.
As you might expect, there has been widespread criticism of this decision, not only from the Columbia University student body, but also in the conservative blogosphere (see Michelle Malkin's blog as well as Power Line). In an official statement announcing the lecture, Columbia president Lee Bollinger defended their decision to let the Iranian president speech by invoking freedom of speech.
I would also like to invoke a major theme in the development of freedom of speech as a central value in our society. It should never be thought that merely to listen to ideas we deplore in any way implies our endorsement of those ideas, or the weakness of our resolve to resist those ideas, or our naiveté about the very real dangers inherent in such ideas. It is a critical premise of freedom of speech that we do not honor the dishonorable when we open the public forum to their voices. To hold otherwise would make vigorous debate impossible.
President Bollinger’s argument might have some validity in normal circumstances, but his university has a poor track record of defending the free speech rights of speakers and/or groups on the campus.
Earlier this week on September 19, the New York Post reported that the "nonpartisan" Columbia Student Union, a student group on campus, had cancelled a planned lecture by Minuteman founder Jim Gilchrist, whose appearance at Columbia last year had been disrupted by left-wing agitators who took over the stage. Bollinger’s administration chose not to punish the Columbia students who were involved in the disruption.
Nine years earlier in November 1998, the Columbia administration of the time caved-in to other left-wing groups after they protested a conservative conference at Columbia University. The administration limited entry to the conference to Columbia students, locking out two-thirds of the attendees from other schools. The administration cited the protesters as the reason for the decision. The conference organizer, Dan Flynn of Accuracy of Academia, was quoted in a story in Human Events. "[Flynn] laid the blame for what happened to one of the speakers squarely at the feet of Columbia's administration: ‘Columbia's more than tacit endorsement of censorship led to the shouting down of Dinesh D'Souza.... One university official said it's not my job to protect your free speech.’"
[Personal note: I attended this conference a freshman from the University of Delaware. I am one of those barred from the conference by Columbia, and witnessed for the first time in my life this kind of agitation from the Left.]
So, university defends Ahmadinejad’s right to speak, yet an official there said it’s their job to protect the free speech of conservatives on campus?
An older example in Columbia’s track record of caving in the censorious demands of leftists was when Columbia banned ROTC from campus in 1968 in an attempt to placate student opponents of the Vietnam War, whose views were sometimes expressed with violence. The ROTC office on campus had been vandalized by a firebombing that year. William Kristol noted in a recent column that when the faculty senate debated whether to invite ROTC back onto campus in 2005, President Bollinger joined the opponents in defeating the proposal.
Kristol summed up nicely at the end of his column. "A perfect synecdoche for too much of American higher education: they are friendlier to Ahmadinejad than to the U.S. military." It should be added that they’re also friendlier to Ahmadinejad than they are to American conservatives.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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By Columbia University's
September 20, 2007 - 15:10 ET by Gat New YorkBy Columbia University's World Leaders Forum inviting yet another known terrorist as well as one of the leaders of the Iranian Hostage Crisis they clearly embed themselves as anti-Jewish and anti-American.
If one dollar of US
September 20, 2007 - 15:14 ET by MightyMouthIf one dollar of US taxpayer money goes to provide this man's security, I am going to be one pissed off US taxpayer!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM, get out your
September 20, 2007 - 15:34 ET by rimskyMM, get out your checkbook.
Send bill to Iran
September 21, 2007 - 12:59 ET by ThisnThatIn 1998, Columbia demanded $3,200 in security costs from the conservative group that it kicked off campus, on top of the organization's fees. What cost re-imbursement is Columbia going to demand of Iran? I haven't heard anything about this -- doubt I ever will. Columbia should be ashamed. And the Columbia alumni should announce that they are going to not donate any more money until Columbia's president is fired.
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What does it tell you?
September 20, 2007 - 15:29 ET by KC MulvilleI seriously doubt that many adults at Columbia intentionally support terrorists. But that's the part extreme liberals miss. Terrorists don't need to respect your intentions, or your agreement, to exploit your political opposition for their own purposes. Prudent liberals can express domestic opposition without feeding the terrorist agenda.
Columbia U is a disgrace.
September 20, 2007 - 15:51 ET by Dave RTo hold otherwise would make vigorous debate impossible.
Really? Columbia U is interested in a vigorous debate?
What a blatant lie by Lee Bollinger. That sorry excuse for an institution of "higher learning" has a well-documented history of stifling speech with which it does not agree.
As for that Iranian Hitler Ahmadinejad, the fact that Columbia would even invite this man to their campus speaks volumes about them. This tyrant wanna-be has repeatedly threatened to blow Israel off the map, making him the ultimate anti-semite, in my book.
This man is quite literally on a path to touch off a World War, and the idiots at Columbia U are concerned about his free speech. How nice.
Not only that, but there are Iranian operatives in Iraq right now who are actively working to kill Americans. I wonder how many of those students have friends or relatives serving in Iraq right now who Akhmedinadinnerjacket has targeted for death?
George W. Bush could do the world (including the Iranian people) a huge favor by undertaking whatever action is required to ensure that the plane carrying that criminal never makes it to New York.
A real CIC would do just that.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Columbia a
September 20, 2007 - 15:59 ET by LeonColumbia a disgrace?
Weird. You should tell that to all my friends who went to law school there and are now making serious cash.
I guess employers don't really see Columbia as a disgrace.
Leon, Funny that you
September 20, 2007 - 16:11 ET by hydrodynDMLeon,
Funny that you didn't address a single issue that Dave R brought up. I'm curious, did you even read past the first sentance?
And your argument about your "friends" and how much money they make is relevant to this discussion how?
Yes of course I did. I
September 20, 2007 - 16:15 ET by LeonYes of course I did.
I was responding to his ridiculous attacks upon the university as a whole.
Calling it a disgrace, challenging the quality of its education.
I was simply saying if Columbia is so widely considered to be a joke, why do people that go there do well post-graduation?
The college you go to has a major impact on the job you are able to get. A college's reputation is weighed heavily during the hiring process. If your college has a bad reputation, it will be detrimental to you getting hired.
That's all.
Leon, Dave R criticized
September 20, 2007 - 16:22 ET by hydrodynDMLeon,
Dave R criticized Columbia for its decision to have Ahmadinejad visit as a speaker. It wasn't a criticism of the Columbia's academic program. What part of that don't you get?
My brother went to law school and has a good job now, but he was critical of his school's policy of only asking left-leaning speakers give talks. So... I guess my brother is a hypocrite?
That sorry excuse for an
September 20, 2007 - 16:26 ET by LeonThat sorry excuse for an institution of "higher learning" has a well-documented history of stifling speech with which it does not agree.
I was primarily responding to this clip. This is criticism of Columbia's academic program.
Criticize the decision to host certain speakers all you want, but to then use it to generalize to the academic quality of the institution is absurd. Especially when you're talking about one of the best academic schools in the country.
Leon, Wrong again. In
September 20, 2007 - 16:35 ET by hydrodynDMLeon,
Wrong again.
In addition to the academic program, a university or college also has an administrative element which can be criticized. Dave R's use of "higher education" was obviously a jab at the administration's habit of (in his words) "stifling speech with which id does not agree." when universities (that's the "higher education" part) are supposed to be bastions of free speech and places where the discussion of opposing ideas is encouraged.
You might have picked up on that since it was in the same sentence.
Leon,
September 20, 2007 - 16:48 ET by Dave RIf an educational institution intereferes with the free-flow of ideas, does that not adversely affect the overall quality of the education it provides?
Go here and look up Columbia U. Careful, you may not like what you find.
BTW-We have Emory University right here in Atlanta, a very respected academic institution, yet they are known around hear as Emoroids due to their blatant intolerance of views they do not agree with.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Leon...
September 20, 2007 - 20:56 ET by Conservative_in_mass."The college you go to has a major impact on the job you are able to get. A college's reputation is weighed heavily during the hiring process. If your college has a bad reputation, it will be detrimental to you getting hired."
Partly correct. gets you in the door,(recruiters concentrate their resources on schools such as the Ivys) but it does not guarantee you'll stick around. As a former executive for a Fortune 500, (before I realized having a life was more important) I can tell you that the playing field levels significantly after school's out. One indicator that was used? If you were wearing the college ring after six months to a year on the job, you were probably be a goner.
The A players in the Shark tank had to become producers immediately regardless of the academic pedigree. Your Alma Mater was soon a thing of the past. References from a noted Prof? Nice, but where I toiled what you did outside the hallowed halls was given considerable wieght. If you could not attach practical legs to what you learned, you would soon be run over. Thats just the way it is.
Just one opinion...take it for what its worth.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
Of course Mass. I agree,
September 21, 2007 - 08:12 ET by LeonOf course Mass.
I agree, but the key to what you said is that it gets you in the door.
That's the most important step to establishing a solid career.
Leon:
September 21, 2007 - 14:54 ET by Conservative_in_mass.Leon:
Not to split hairs...I don't have the eyesight for it, there are few instances where the job offer comes down to just the school. Like I said, evaluations are made on the total package, school, grades, relative experiences, etc. In the door is one thing...where from there is another.
Maybe they get more interviews; who knows. What I do know is I've seen Ivy grads beat out by those from smaller no name institutions on several occasions, especially during the intern phase of employment. This means the "no-name" grads are getting a foot in the door also.
Anyone running a department, division, territory etc. wants to hire people knowing they will be able to meet their responsibilities to the fullest (and by proxy make them look like heroes to the B.O.D. & shareholders). All I'm saying is do not overvalue the name of the institution on the sheepskin...it becomes an insignificant factor very quickly.
I've wandered way off the path of the thread here, so with that, I'll move along....
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
I wonder how long Leon will try to advance based on his school?
September 21, 2007 - 15:16 ET by RJFrom his braggadocio comments now and in the past, long beyond it's effectivness, I'm guessing.
RJ
September 21, 2007 - 16:32 ET by Conservative_in_mass.From where I've been, you can't bank on that too long. Soon than later, the flys begin to appear, if you know what I mean.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
Absolutely true, conservative in mass
September 21, 2007 - 16:36 ET by RJCheck your PMs in a couple of minutes...
So what?
September 20, 2007 - 16:13 ET by well99Drug dealers make serious cash.Money doesnt make the person.Well at least to my view.That school is a joke.It is alright to have fascist like Ahmadinejads speak.I guess your fine with his suppresion of people in Iran.What the heck they are just Iranians so they dont really count.. right.
Well, You wouldn't be
September 20, 2007 - 16:17 ET by LeonWell,
You wouldn't be interested to hear him speak? Really?
Depending on what happens in the next couple of years, this guy could have a major (albeit negative) impact on the world.
i disagree with everything Hitler believed in, but if I had been alive in 1935 I might have been interested in hearing him speak.
}}---> Get real Leon
September 20, 2007 - 16:22 ET by Cool ArrowAre you so unlearned you haven't heard him take opposite positions given the venue?
Is there a dearth of rhetoric from Dinnerjacket?
You just want New Yorkers' noses rubbed in the ashes.
Shame.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Cool Arrow, New Yorkers'
September 20, 2007 - 16:24 ET by LeonCool Arrow,
New Yorkers' noses' rubbed in ashes?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what we've been doing through our unwavering support of Saudi Arabia?
What did Iran have to do with 9/11?
As for your first question, i can't seem to translate it so if you could clarify I'll get you an answer.
}}---> Wrong again Leon
September 20, 2007 - 16:33 ET by Cool ArrowSaudi Arabia did not attack us.
Usama bin Ladin turned against Saudi Arabia when they allowed the US to protect them during the Kuwait War rather than have bin Ladin's group provide the protection.
This is all stuff you've heard before, but you believe the rest of us are suffer from the same selective amnesia you enjoy.
Your twist on the truth once again lacks fortification.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Oh I must be wrong in my
September 20, 2007 - 16:36 ET by LeonOh I must be wrong in my thinking that the 9/11 hijackers were saudi arabian
}}---> Wrong thinking Leon?
September 20, 2007 - 16:38 ET by Cool ArrowNo, you are disingenuous in your interpretation. There's a difference.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Hitler and other pipsqueaks
September 20, 2007 - 16:32 ET by ThisnThat"I disagree with everything Hitler believed in, but if I had been alive in 1935 I might have been interested in hearing him speak".
That's really, really pathetic. These egomaniacs feed off of adulation and are energized by big crowds. Anyone attending stuff like this; in fact, anyone extending an invitation like Columbia did, simply re-enforces their view of the world.
Everyone says now-a-days "If we only knew, we could have stopped Hitler a lot sooner". The same with this Iranian madman -- now we know. It's time to stop him. Not encourage him.
Everyone fawning over this jerk really needs to grow up and stop being so immature and childish. This person could (and will) cause serious damage and deaths very soon.
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Leon
September 20, 2007 - 16:32 ET by well99The fact of what he is doing to the people of his country is why.He is a politician just like any other.It isnt like he is going to come out and tell us the truth.He will tell people what he thinks they want to hear.What will bring him the most benefits.I agree people should be open minded but when you know someone is a tyrant what does matter what he says.In this country "we" have so much freedom "we" dont really comprehend how others dont."We" dont see even a simple discussion as were haveing now is something many other folks cant have.If they do it can mean prison and worse.I dont believe in supporting tyrants.That doesnt mean goverments cant talk to them but the people of free countries should not be giving them platforms to spew their propaganda.
Well, I agree with
September 20, 2007 - 16:34 ET by LeonWell,
I agree with everything you said. The thing you're forgetting is that people know who he is, what he's about, and why he's a bad guy. They know he isn't going to tell the truth and they know he's a wacko.
It's interesting b/c he could figure to be a major player in the future.
Leon, I have seen the not
September 20, 2007 - 16:38 ET by bassndudeLeon, I have seen the not to distant future, and he aint in it.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Bass, It just seems to me
September 21, 2007 - 08:08 ET by LeonBass,
It just seems to me that this guy wants to cause a stir. He wants to see Americans riled up.
Why give him the satisfaction? Why not be bigger than his ego?
You constantly accuse trolls of coming to newsbusters for the sole purpose of causing a commotion. What's the best way to handle a troll? Ignore them.
This guy is a troll. Ignore him.
}}---> Dinnerjacket's required
September 20, 2007 - 16:42 ET by Cool ArrowAnd for purposes of this argument you'll condemn Columbia for refusing ROTC on its campus.
But only for the sake of this argument.
I'll bet you support the troops too.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Leon
September 20, 2007 - 16:51 ET by well99That is why he shouldnt be giving time at CU.He will just use it for propaganda.As far as him being a major player.Not at this stage.To be a major player in my view there has to be some flexibility and I dont see it in him. Also I agree the majority of people in Iran would like a free country.The problem is a minority of the country have the weapons.It is hard to argue with a tank.
Oh OT is Neil Gabler his twin?
Oh stop the lying Leon
September 20, 2007 - 18:04 ET by SportPoliticsAll you leftists including the entire left elite of the faculty and the screaming loon libs all LOVE Ahmadinejad.
You all support his struggle for the Palestinian people, you all hate Israel to some degree, and declare it the terrorist not Palestinians, and you all support his RIGHT to nuclear power and a nuclear weapon so that the USA won't "attack and invade and occupy" another nation under the "dictator" war mongering President Bush.
Come on, I don't know how you got anyone here to think you for one instant believe Ahmadinejad is a bad guy.
The reason the University wants him to speak is because he has tens of thousands of fans waiting to hear from their FAVE guy opposing GWB. They even love him for being a "replacement" for the Shah, you know the one you libs shriek was installed in a bloody overthrow by the USA, then rightfully removed by a majority of the Iranian peoples...
You're not even man enough to take the real position you and your liberal freaks do dearly hold close to your hearts and have forever, and will forevermore.
SportP.....
September 20, 2007 - 19:48 ET by MrShySo so so so so soooo true!!! I never thought of this... never really cleared my head to come to the obvious conclusion that you've brought me to:
They (the left -- and I would go further and say it's more than just the "far/fringe left" but a sizable population of the party) either think people like Amadabadabaginamabob and Mr. Venezuela, et el, are really the true fighters for liberation and freedom in the world (and they're even "kinda cool"! :p), OR, the "moderate" ones still believe they're as legitimate, if not more, than Bush.
Why? One reason, and one reason only: they just HATE "Bushie" !!
Just watch, too: IF this all happens, and there's already been an impressive upward curve on many fronts with GWB, 1) we go yet another year NOT BEING ATTACKED... 2) another year where the world is not attacked... (and it's all contained in the kill zone of Iraq, although that will subside because of.... #3...) 3) Iraq continues it's improvement on the ground, and YES, that will lead to improved government... and so on... the left will continue to babble on "we are less safe today than we were before 9/11!"... "we have created a breeding ground for more terrorists!".... yada yada... the same blowhard L-points will flow, regardless of how much GWB has done to seriously cripple Al Qaeda AND successfully democratize 2 countries and bring some stability to the M.E..
Why? Well, let me repeat it.... they HATE GWB!! That simple. So none of it will matter, my NB friends.
And yes, most of them think this way and don't have the balls to just say it (and, maybe, because... they know why themselves, that they suffer from incurable BDS.)
Man enough..
September 21, 2007 - 08:20 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou're not even man enough to take the real position...
A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a quarrel."
- Robert Frost
Leon Jabberwocky Translation
September 21, 2007 - 07:57 ET by Sergeant ROCKHe is a politician just like any other.
In Leon's state of delusion, Hitler is just another politician.
Now, will one of you 'can't we all just get along' Republicans explain to me why we need to bend over backwards to make friends with idiots on the left like Leon?
I beg to differ!
I dont know about
September 21, 2007 - 15:17 ET by well99I dont know about Republicans but I dont mind discussing topics with anyone.It is the left that has my view only my view attitude.Places like Kos Kids and Huff where you have to toe the line.I didnt see Jane Hamster name as a blogger here. Why have a forum unless it is for varying ideas.As long as no one is throwing a load of propaganda like BlingBling66 and his 600k number number on another post.I am open to debate. "He is a politician just like any other." That was my statement.As far as Hitler being just like other politicians.It was meant to implie politicians cant be trusted.Few exceptions to that rule.Yes Hitler,Pol Pot,Stalin and the rest of those homicidal maniacs are in a class of their own.The mass slaughter by these dictators and others has cost millions of lives.There will be more to come because no one will stop them. The bottomline is politicians use and manipulate people for their own self serving needs.
Adolf Hitler (D)
September 21, 2007 - 08:08 ET by Sergeant ROCKi disagree with everything Hitler believed in...
Highly suspect, given your adulation for Amanutjob.
Posts deleted
September 20, 2007 - 16:15 ET by Matthew BalanI have deleted your and Mighty Mouth's replies for personal attacks. Debate the points, but DO NOT attack each other.
Matthew, Are you replying
September 20, 2007 - 16:18 ET by LeonMatthew,
Are you replying to me?
I didn't attack anyone. What are you talking about?
There is either a glitch or
September 20, 2007 - 16:20 ET by MightyMouthThere is either a glitch or someone is being a bit too quick on the censor button. By all means let Leon rant and rave.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
It is a disgrace...
September 20, 2007 - 16:30 ET by Maverick313All lawyers make serious cash... it doesn't matter if you went to Columbia U or Harvard. An education is an education as long as it is viable. The issue here is that this university is showcasing a known heretic and lunatic, giving him a soapbox and calling it freedom of speech. Give me a break.
If you don't stand behind our troops; please feel free to stand in front of them!
All lawyers make
September 20, 2007 - 16:32 ET by LeonAll lawyers make serious cash...
Ha.
Ok.
Not government lawyers and not lawyers that aren't at top tier law firms.
You sound like you're in
September 20, 2007 - 17:24 ET by Maverick313You sound like you're in third grade. Ha... Ok... those lawyers made the decision to work those positions. Besides that, you ignored the rest of my comment. This university is giving this crazy madman a soapbox, when they won't even give the ROTC or the Minutemen the time of day. Try reading past the first sentence.
If you don't stand behind our troops; please feel free to stand in front of them!
Maverick313
September 20, 2007 - 18:19 ET by SportPoliticsAhmadinejad is their hero. Might as well face it - they worship him much like they worship slick willie.
He is their favorite person to stick it to GWB and the USA war machine, and our illegal war in Iraq, and the Israeli war crimes and land theft against the Palestinians... could go on and on...
They LOVE Ahmadinejad, they WANT him to speak truth to power, and they want to cheer wildly for him and show him they are not evil like GWB. That's what they really believe, who they are, and what they're about.
Just like Bill Maher flat out called Patreaus a liar on Blitzer's, all these babbling brainwashed USA hating psychotic left loons of post modern progressivism all BELIEVE Ahmadinejad, and DISBELIEVE Bush and all that comes or can be related to Bush.
So, they're having "an honored guest" in their mind. Their true "brother" another "believer".
Leon,
September 20, 2007 - 16:32 ET by Dave RYou should tell that to all my friends who went to law school there and are now making serious cash.
Why is it I am not surprised?
Let me guess, they all work for the ACLU, bringing litigation against any and all who oppose the actions of the CAIR crowd.
Or, are some of them out there like John Edwards, bringing mal-practice actions against rural doctors, thus ensuring that the supply of these vital healthcare providers continues to dry up? I mean, Johnny made a pile of cash doing that.
Or, maybe they are like this guy.
Sorry, but lawyers aren't exactly my favorite people in the world these days, and my best friend of twenty-one years is an attorney. Of course, she spends most of her time ensuring that the federal government lives up to its obligations as they relate to our veterans.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
I wonder?
September 20, 2007 - 16:03 ET by well99If those students will rush the stage like they did with Jim Gilchrist.
Does anyone else
September 20, 2007 - 15:51 ET by sarcasmoThink that the best/funniest response to this jerk would have been "yea, sure you can lay a wreath, but along the way your ass is going to a Holocaust Memorial (I'm sure NYC has one or more museums that would infuriate him!) for at least an hour first?
Maybe it's just me, but I think keeping this jerk away from the 9/11 attack site does more harm than good, regardless of the fact that he's an a$$hole and everyone here thinks-so. Doing a forced Holocaust Museum visit would make for maximum-discomfort, IMO, and would totally deflate his current PR-bubble with the left. Think psychology, folks. I don't know much, but I am an expert on what annoys people, and my idea would annoy this guy. Guaranteed.
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
Maybe
September 20, 2007 - 15:55 ET by Bobby JerseyMaybe the Irainians will allow someone from this country to stand at an Irainian University and cite the violence and unequal treatment their government allows. To have this man on US soil is bad enough, but to have him on a college campus spewing his hate is not acceptable. The UN should be placed outside the US and be done with it. I can't beleive this is going on in our country. Allowing him to speak is not showing our willingness of freedom of speech, as the university president states, but rather our tolerance of not arresting him and charging him with murder of US soldiers and Israeli civilians, which is what should be done. Also, what a shock that the MSM is not telling us that he is speaking there. Disgusting!!
Free Speech is.....
September 20, 2007 - 16:19 ET by ThisnThatInviting someone from a liberal institution to make favorable comments about this jerk Ahmadinejad is free speech.
Inviting a terrorist leader of a terrorist nation is not free speech.
I thought these liberal universities had nothing but the smartest people in the world?
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Iran is not a terrorist
September 20, 2007 - 16:30 ET by LeonIran is not a terrorist nation.
Their leader is not representative of the people.
80% of Iranians support a democratic system free from religious influence.
Link
To call Iran a terrorist nation is not accurate. Some elements support terrorism but they aren't a terrorist nation.
Iran is not a terrorist
September 20, 2007 - 16:33 ET by bassndudeIran is not a terrorist nation.
Leon, that is down right ignorant. The leaders of a nation set the direction of the nation. If the direction of that nation is terrorist in nature, that nation is a terrorist nation.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Iran is not a terrorist nation
September 20, 2007 - 17:08 ET by LionKingWhat are they waiting for?
September 20, 2007 - 16:36 ET by Conservative_in_mass."80% of Iranians support a democratic system free from religious influence."
Then they need to speak up. That is of course if they don't mind getting their domes lopped off.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
State sponsors of terrorism
September 20, 2007 - 16:57 ET by ThisnThat"Iran is not a terrorist nation",
See here. But don't expect anything more from me. It simply isn't worth the effort.
Leon, instead of saying "Iran is not a terrorist nation", you should have just asked. But making that statement shows you have absolutely no context for anything that goes on in life.
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Leon, Iran not a terrorist nation?
September 20, 2007 - 17:03 ET by Dave RYou have to be kidding here, right?
Akhmedinadinnerjacket has anounced numerous times that his intention is to BLOW ISRAEL OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH! What is more, is he is getting very close to being able to do just that.
Will you believe Iran to be a terrorist nation when the mushroom cloud
is rising over Tel Aviv? Of course, it will be too late then, as you will then see a war you won't believe, as I doubt the Israelis (who have possesed nuclear weapons since the mid to late '60's, in case you didn't know) are not just going to sit there and take it.
Now, I'm not sure, as I am no lawyer, but I'm guessing that the threatened and/or attempted destruction of an entire nation has got to be at least a violation of international law and perhaps even the UN Charter at some point, would it not?
If the UN doesn't promptly arrest this clown as soon as he sets foot on UN property and put him on trial, then what good is having this useless body in the first place?
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
So, according to your
September 20, 2007 - 17:07 ET by BDSo, according to your logic, that being that the peoples position determines what the stanc eof the nation is, then:
Germany was not a Nazi nation.
Italy was not a Fascist nation.
Japan was not a Militarist nation.
The Soviet Union was not a Communist nation.
One of the ex IRan hostages needs to say....
September 20, 2007 - 16:22 ET by JayTee"I recognize HIM....he took me hostage....ARREST THAT MAN !"
What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ? David Foote GoE
Maybe...
September 20, 2007 - 16:24 ET by c5thenThe Columbia Student Union will rush the stage and shout the Iranian terrorist off the stage like they did the founder of the Minuteman group?
Any one want to guess the odds of that happening?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Fred08.com
Hmm
September 20, 2007 - 16:40 ET by well99I drather bet on the Giants winning the world series this year.A better chance of it happening.
Not a chance!
September 21, 2007 - 08:02 ET by Sergeant ROCKSo much for the diversity claims being spewed by leftist apoloists!
Any chance we could get the following
September 20, 2007 - 17:11 ET by JPR1letter into ther next diplomatic pouch?
Mr. Achmawhatever,
The administration of the United States of America wishes to inform you that you personally have been formally declared an enemy of our country.
Please carefully review the attached document. It will concisely define the rational for our conclusion. Any questions get some help from someone who might care.
In light of this declaration we wish to inform you of some conditions you will be required to meet with regard to your upcoming visit to the United Nations, to wit:
Upon your arrival your travels will be strictly limited to travel between the airport; the United Nations main facility and/or the Iranian embassy. Please enjoy the sights as you travel direct routes between any of these locations. There are more than a few unpredictable redneck types who would love to make themselves famous so, for your security, military motorcades will be provided.
Despite any plans you may have had you will not be visiting any of the following locations; site of the former World Trade Center; Columbia (or any other) University; any mosque, Iranian community center, Halal grocery or pool halls.
Attempts to circumvent these requirements will result in your apprehension and imprisonment.
In a nutshell little guy, we don’t like you; please make your stay as brief as possible.
For the People,
George W Bush
PS Just had an email from one of the rednecks. Hate to have you come all this way for dull and phony rhetoric; how about you drop by the White House anyhow. We’ll meet out on the back lawn. Just the two of us, maybe a couple of photogs. Three five minute “discussions”, UFC rules. What’ya say sparky? No time to research and compose the rational. I can’t imagine it would be all that difficult.
bad post
September 20, 2007 - 19:40 ET by MrShysee above, sorry