CNN’s Senior Political Correspondent’s Whopper on Homosexuality

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Candy Crowley, CNN’s senior political correspondent and an award winner for "excellence in journalism," might want to do a little more research on what science really says about the cause of homosexuality. In a report on the Logo/Human Right Campaign presidential candidates’ forum on "gay rights," Crowley claimed that "science has long-held that homosexuality is biological."

Come again? That claim would come to a surprise to even the homosexual-friendly American Psychological Association, whose web page on homosexuality states that "there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people."

Crowley’s report, which came during the bottom half of the 4 pm hour of Friday’s "The Situation Room," paid particularly attention to a gaffe made by New Mexico governor and Democratic presidential candidate Bill Richardson. When asked by lesbian activist Melissa Etheridge, "Do you think homosexuality is a choice, or is it biological?," Richardson answered, "It’s a choice." Etheridge gave Richardson a chance to clarify, but as Crowley put it, "wrong group for that [kind of answer]." She immediately followed this analysis with the obligatory gay-Left talking point. Her full statement: "Wrong group for that, and science has long-held that homosexuality is biological."

While there have been studies that have cited biological factors that may contribute to homosexuality, the debate is far from over concerning what causes this sexual orientation, and it boils down to a nature versus nurture, or a born-that-way versus conscious choice argument. It seems that while Crowley was reporting on Richardson’s "gaffe," she may have made one of her own.

—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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The qu

I've asked a number of people either sympathetic to or defenders of the notion that homosexuality is geneic if they believe bi-sexuality, peodophilia, necrophilia, beastiality etc., are also genetic.  If so, should they be legalized also?  If not, what distinguishes homosexuality from these other sexual deviancies?

The next whammy I ask is if the gene for homosexuality is ever discovered, would they be if favor of selective abortions for babies found to have that gene?

By that point, I'm usually called a few select names--none of them complimentary.

What an odd question to ask

"The next whammy I ask is if the gene for homosexuality is ever discovered, would they be if favor of selective abortions for babies found to have that gene? "

The correct answer would be " uh No"

Why they would call you names is simply beyond my understanding :)

Two questions

Two questions Mandrake.

 1. Do you think abortion is a choice pregnant women should be able to make legally?

2. If so, do you think that selective abortion is OK based on the genetics (i.e Down Syndrome babies), deformity etc.? 

"I've asked a number of

"I've asked a number of people either sympathetic to or defenders of the notion that homosexuality is geneic if they believe bi-sexuality, peodophilia, necrophilia, beastiality etc., are also genetic.  If so, should they be legalized also?  If not, what distinguishes homosexuality from these other sexual deviancies?"

Excellent question!

"I've asked a number of

"I've asked a number of people either sympathetic to or defenders of
the notion that homosexuality is geneic if they believe bi-sexuality,
peodophilia, necrophilia, beastiality etc., are also genetic. If so,
should they be legalized also? If not, what distinguishes
homosexuality from these other sexual deviancies?"

Excellent question!"

Not really. Pedophilia, necrophilia and beastiality all involve parties that cannot consent to the act being committed. Homosexuality involves consenting partners who choose to be with one another.

I think sex with another guy is disgusting, and would never do it myself, but in no way does it equate to the rape of children, corpses and animals. 

 

Question

So, you see homosexuality as more acceptable when it comes to sexual deviancies?

Sin is biological

Homosexuality does not always involved consenting partners - and pedophelia often does...

Sin is biological. Doesn't make it OK somehow...

Actually ckc the question

Actually ckc the question is pertinent. 

Homosexuals would like us to believe that their sexuality is genenic.  I merely ask if other forms of sexuality is also genetic.  Whether the 2nd party is consenting or not is irrelevent to the question. 

What if it is genetic? Does

What if it is genetic? Does that make it OK?

That also opens the door to the "thief gene" or the "adulterer gene" or the "serial killer" gene

The "gay gene" thing doesn't really help the gay agenda at all does it? Kinda funny for gay proponents to try and use it...

Fairies and unicorns..

There is no 'gay gene'. And yes, it would help the cause by providing an excuse for their behavior. It's all about acceptance.

They're gonna run into the

They're gonna run into the "ped gene" problem then - I just don't think the strategy will work out well - maybe it could...

But it is all about acceptance yer right about that

Strategy of excuses

The strategy has already failed because the 'gay gene' has not been found and won't be. The 'gay gene' is just one of many attempts to explain away their behavior rather than face the more likely answer that it's a choice.

Sgt ROCK, One of my very

Sgt ROCK,

One of my very favorite posters here....is Mr. Bishop.  He's a Ranger.  His dad is an officer of the submarine corps.

And he has a gay brother.  So how do we reconcile that?

Everyone's an idiot?

Or we are the people we happen to have in our families?   Defend it?  What?  Please, give me your insights.

Apologies, to Bishop, who hasn't been here in a long while...but I know he'd lite off in a fierce fashion if he were.

 

Reconcile what? What do

Reconcile what?

What do you mean 'everyone's an idiot'? Is that ad hominem?

Defend what?

...but I know he'd lite off in a fierce fashion if he were.

Are you implying that this guy is an apologist for the gay rights movement and that I should beware of commenting on the subject? What did I do?

ROCK, I've been trying,

ROCK,

I've been trying, all day long, to lead you along to a better way of posting to people here.

Sorry, if you don't get it.

You're being obtuse. 

Bishop would absolutely go off.   He's a Ranger, dude...and has a gay brother.  And he's kind of humourous about it.  Reconcile that.  We don't get the families we wish for...we get the families we get.

I don't know what, exactly, your problem is.  But you've been a pluperfect pain in the ass all day.

youch blonde peace

youch blonde

peace people:)

blonde to you disapprove of Sarge's views - or just his way of expressing them here?

Sarg may have a gay brother as well. What does that matter exactly?

That is a fair question.

That is a fair question.

TM, Funny you should ask

TM,

Funny you should ask that!

I don't disapprove of Sarge's views at all.

I'm just trying to bring a little more civility to this board.

Okay...having said that...try not to fall down laughing!

I admit I am the worse troll kicker here....but when I find a liberal to be worthy of persuasion....I am trying to help.  Does that make sense?

It falls within the purview of me trying to grow up as a human being.  And I shall thank you to not LAUGH.

 

i see blonde, it's great

i see blonde,

it's great to try and make peace - i guess i jumped on you for the same thing the other day...

this civility diplomacy is a very tricky thing - the messenger always ends up getting shot around here - doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying tho...

will it bug alot you if you keep getting bit over it? hope not

Well, TM

"Jumping on each other" is a tricky thing, yes?

I'm not quite sure what you "jumped" me over...but it's okay....

Civility is a virtue...one which I am trying to learn how to master every day.

I'm being perfectly serious when I say that. 

And I am way beyond caring what anyone thinks about whether I'm being civil, caring, or defending (Shawn!) at all.

I'm a big girl...I can say exactly what I'd like. 

How cool is that?

 

 

Blonde , you are very cool

Blonde , you are very cool indeed:)

And I'm glad you're trying to do what you do here

I jumped on you over on the religious question thread the other day - that's what I PM'd you about

You don't care what other people think of you? come on now

TM, Actually, not.  I

TM,

Actually, not.  I have to be me.

I know what my NB friends here think about me.

Queen Mum once told me to tone it down....to this day Leon tries to throw it back in my face.

Kinda funny.

 

well blonde i get hurt

well blonde i get hurt around here alot that's for sure

I'm a softie

typical man - can't hack the pain:)!

What are you talking about?

Your ad hominem attack doesn't help get to any of my insights as you allege to be interested in.

My conversation, which you were not a part of, was the question of whether or not that there was a 'gay gene' or another cause for homosexuality. You immediately jump in to attack me as though I directly attacked this bishop guy or his brother personally - I did not, thank you.

As to the point of we don't get to have the families we get where did I say anything different? So, I don't know what YOUR problem is! Try to get the gist what of the discussion is about before you start launching into an attack.

Having a gay person in your family doesn't debunk anything I've said on the issue. So, try something else.

ROCK, I shall disengage

ROCK,

I shall disengage from this conversation. 

I have no gay people in my family, which has nothing to do with anything, actually.

I apologize for any of my posts which made you feel as though I "attacked" you.  That was never my intention.

I have nothing to do with advocating for gay rights....I merely stated I missed my gay friend.  Tolerance is not a bad thing.  

Again, if you felt my posts to you were an "attack", I apologize.  That was never my intent.

My POV, though, is to try to be tolerant, as best we can be, as conservatives, and to try to gently lead those of the liberal persuasion to our POV.

That's all.

Again, my abject apologies if I offended you, Sgt. ROCK.

 

Blonde, I think you're on

Blonde, I think you're on to something. 

Rock, what does it matter to you really?  I mean do homosexuals *really* bother you so much that you are going to tell them how THEY feel?  That's like a liberal telling a conservative that all conservatives are just 'mislead children' that not only is being a conservative 'wrong ethically' but that you also choose that KNOWING its wrong.

I mean, if you woke up tomorrow and you were a woman, or the genetic system was switched to the fact that only same sex relations could cause procreation, would you switch your preference based merely on that?  Im betting not.  People have internal attraction cues, and some, be it born or nurtured into them from birth, some are solely attracted to the same sex.  Its not always about sex either.  I know a few gay men who dont even LIKE homosexual sex but date men exclusively simply because they are effeminate naturally to a degree that dating women is next to impossible and an emotional need, NOT sexual, goes unfufilled in a heterosexual relationship whereas men seem to provide that emotional need that person requires that he wasnt finding with women.

Ive said it before, if you dont like homosexuals, thats fine, but quit trying to throw blanket statements on it to make it look more acceptable to be intolerant and make your view point more agreeable, which might I add is ALSO unsubstantiated by science since there is no proof there ISNT a gay gene.

 

Im sorry, I usually am much more tactful and nice in my posts but I can sense the utter distaste you have for homosexuals even across the internet and it makes me wonder how YOU would feel if people berated you so for your beliefs.  People have a right to live their life, regardless whether or not someone disagrees with how they choose to so long as the only person affected are those who choose to be involved.  And last I checked, there wasn't many gay men trolling across the country raping other men.

The simple fact is, they

The simple fact is, they are asking that people view two consenting adults to be treated the same in the views of their acts, regardless of gender.  To compare homosexuality to sex with children or dead humans/animals is just retarded.  Seriously, we get it, you all dont like homosexuals.  Be men (or women) and take the stance of your own, quit making *insane* coorelations.  I mean  I hate to say it but its no wonder why so many people flock to the dems and the liberal side of politic when this is what they are greeted with at the door of conservatives.  Afterall, who the hell gets hurt if we say its ok for two people of any gender who are in love to be involved in a faithful relationship?

 

I mean, you DO have the right to dislike homosexuality based on the fact its homosexuality.  Quit trying to rationalize it with stupid, illogical comparisons, and I mean that as respectfully as I can, but its hard to respect something that is said and so devoid of even an ounce of common sense.  Like I said, irrational fears are real, and you have the right to hold them.  I hate spiders and snakes.  I dont really have any reason than I think they are disgusting creatures and being near one makes me cringe.  It seems some here feel the same way of homosexuals, and thats fine.  As I said, we're all entitled to our own irrational fears.  Just quit trying to make a case for it to become 'intolerable' across the board.  No one has the right to tell two adults of sound mind who they can or cant love.  (and dont even bother trying that 'they arent sound of mind.'  Just cause they arent the same as you doesn't mean they are 'wrong.')

I agree the act itself, is

I agree the act itself, is disgusting, but no way would I equate it with children, corpses or animals.

}}---> Candy Crowley

She has a point.

If all women looked like her, I might consider flipping.

She reminds me of a night I spent on an Italian shore. . . or was it a French shore?

HA-HA! Candy Crowley is

HA-HA! Candy Crowley is ugly! So ugly men turn gay! WAHAHAHA!!

}}---> Baloba

"Candy Crowley is ugly! So ugly men turn gay!"

Bal, have you found this to be true in your trollings?

You mean, Bal is gay because

You mean, Bal is gay because he's seen so many fat lesbians?

}}---> No, that's not why bal is gay

The observation was based on his claim that ugly men are gay.

Punctuation and

Punctuation and clarification needed: She's so ugly, men turn gay when they see her!"

I'm making fun of these posts that have nothing better to say than that Crowley is ugly. 

It is funny bal:) Indeed

It is funny bal:)

Indeed if she were the only woman on earth i would certainly have to become gay - or maybe take another look at the beastiality thingy...?!

TM

?

botg - thankfully she is

botg - thankfully she is not:)

lighten up a little - it's Saturday where I live

actually TM

i was trying to link a picture, which failed so i erased it and just threw in something, will try again.

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

Doh! sory...

Doh! sory...

Try again

here

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

what a waste of a

what a waste of a link:(...

(non-slaver)

TM

i dunno, lokk at both pics,  seperated at birth?

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.

still recovering from the

still recovering from the first link - gimme a while:)

TM, What I find humorous

TM,

What I find humorous here is that all of you guys are making comments about how ugly Candy (?) is....and if that's it (all that was available)....you'd turn gay.

Then the comments about the T-Shirt Girl.

Which are even more amusing to me. 

She's cute...a hottie, even.  But you guys slavering all over yourselves is rather amusing.

From a strictly female perspective, a cute, hot young chick is just that....a way for you guys to have your dreams. Nothing more (and oh, how do I wish I still looked that way!)

There is absolutely no way in hell that a woman would find her sexually attractive...don't get me wrong, I think she's cute and all....but mostly because of the reactions she evokes from you guys.

Having said that....I feel truly sorry for homosexuals....what a horrible way to have to live in this life.  Male homosexuals confuse me more than females do.  My own supposition is that female homosexuals desire a more intense amount of intimacy (and not sexual) than can be found in a typical relationship.  The man-man thing just has me counfounded, though.

 

Blonde just be thankful

Blonde just be thankful your not a guy

the penis thing is a very heavy burden - as you can see here:(

Please don't feel so sorry for homos - we all have crap to deal with - homos don't have any more to deal with despite the popular cultural messages these days

they've got plenty of people that love em - libs and fundies alike...

Did you say "still looked that way?!" (slaver) 

Actually, TM. I am

Actually, TM.

I am thankful for being born a female every day of my life.  It's a wonderful thing.  It gives me a rather broad perspective on this life.

And the truth be told, we are all creatures of biology.  I'm sure you've seen the documentaries about sex.  Which is why I have to smile at all of the men's comments here on the cute t-shirt girl.  It's biology.  She's a totally attactive mother of your future children.

I do, however, feel very sorry for homosexuals.  For whatever reason, they're not wired properly.  It must be a horrible thing to be a misfit in this society.

I had a friend, who died two years ago....queer as a three dollar bill.  But he was with his "partner" for over 20 years.  This man was as special as they come.  Each and every one of us who knew him, thought we were his most special friend in the world.  He was an outstanding human being....a kind, generous lovely man. 

He was a credit to his family, to his community, to his friends, and to our firm.    I miss him more than anyone here can know.

So what about his sexual orientation bothered me?  Nothing.  It's not for me to judge.  He was a decent and kind person.  How he chose to live his life is not within my purview.

We all have civil rights.  What I object to is "extra" rights for special interests.  And trust me when I tell you, my friend was not an advocate for that.  He was a kind and decent human being. 

He was gay.  So what?

 

Hey blonde

I suggest the admins here try a beefcake t-shirt dude for a few days - I bet you could get a little silly too then, couldn't ya:)?

I don't think any of us are wired properly as a consequence of our sinful nature. Therefore non of us are any better or worse in the eyes of God. All we can do is try to follow the rules as best as we can. And usually fail miserably most of the time - I do anyway...

I passinately love the so-called "gays" in the sense that I think they have severely fallen, are participating in very unhealthy things, and are in need of community rescue - similar to hard-core alcoholics or drug addicts...

That said however as a conservative fundie I actually feel like we should try gay marriage for a few decades and see how it works. I think it could work in the sense that we have made other vices work here for decades such as Las Vegas or rampant American materialism...

Any thoughts on that?

Thoughts, TM...

Well, you're speaking to a hard core female, who is only interested in manly men....to begin with.

Which is why I find you're (in the plural) fascination with t-shirt girl so amusing.  It's pleasing to a girly woman to find the male fascination with a 17 year old hottie exactly what we'd think it would be.

You (and the rest of you men) wouldn't like what I'd put up in lieu of the t-shirt girl.  It would deflate and  totally upset your world.  It doesn't matter, though.  It's not worth it to upset the applecart in such a public way.  This is why women are more reasonable.....we don't get all wrapped around the axle about quid pro quo.....we can take it for what it's worth, and be amused.

As for being wired properly, or improperly...most of us are wired correctly.  But for those on this planet who are not....I can't judge.  It's not for me to judge.  It's not what I'd choose.  But it is way beyond my understanding.

I am totally against Gay Marriage (as was my dear departed gay friend, BTW).  He couldn't help how he was...but oh, how I miss him every day.  He was one of the finest human beings I've ever met in my life.  I miss him, so.

 

very nice, blonde

So how do you know she's 17? I've see 12 year olds that look that way all the time:)

I'd still like to hear you're comments if they put up a beefcake dude. I've seen videos of you girls at the bachelorette parties stuffing the dollar bills with quite the enthusiasm - it's great to see you gals screaming and pulling out all the stops like it's the fourth of july or something:)

I have "gay" friends and associates as well - also drug addicts, excons, and some other deviants like me - were all just people - sorry - someone isn't gay or criminal or a druggie to me...

But that's just me - what do i know:)? Not much I'm sure

Just guessing, TM. And

Just guessing, TM.

And you've never seen me comment about  a "beefcake" thing...never done that... not would I.  I'd LMAO, though, at the comments you men would post to a picture I'd put up here...it would be rather amusing!

It is totally funny to hear you men ascribe your uglier traits to us.....shoving dollar bills and such.  It only happens with white trash little girls...not with us grown ups!

As for my friend, you may ascribe whatever it is that makes you feel better, but I miss him every single day.  It was his unfortunate lot in life to be born gay (or to grow up that way...who knows?).

But I've learned to be tolerant of things that don't hurt anyone else....if two men choose to be together (or two women for that matter)...how does that hurt me?  It is what it is....unfortunate, and not something I'd ever choose....but seriously, we need to let go of stuff that we can't control.

I miss my friend more than you can possibly know.  He was an amazing human being. 

 

Ok blonde

I've still seen some very reserved ladies quite transformed when the beefcake shows up - but you're right not all of you participate in such things like that...

I believe I've also learned to be very, very tolerant. A fundie in America these days must be one of the most tolerant citizens if we are to retain a job, watch TV, vote, and address many of our other adult duties on a daily basis...

The word "tolerant" is actually very interesting to me. It quite amuses me when libs gleefully accuse me of intolerance and proudly proclaim theirs.

If they already approve of gays then it's really nothing impressive for them to "tolerate" gays is it? Unless they don't really approve deep down inside after all - just like me? 

Otherwise how could they even be "tolerant" in the first place? Tolerance is an action that springs from rising above deep personal objections and tolerating things that one finds objectionable anyway.

So are libs really "tolerant" after all? If so then they must still really disapprove in order to be that way...

Anyway very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend...

Quite, TM

Do you see how easy it is to ascribe things to another?

Why it was easy to accuse me of going to a place where the "Chippendales" perform?  Seriously....I'd have a good laugh at it...but take it for anything other than frivolity?  Sheesh...laughing.

As you and I know well know....it's beyond us to be a "fundie"....or not.

I just have a really difficult time vilifying someone (anyone).   My gay friend was a gentleman of the world.  As such, I would never do something so crass as to demonize him.  My take on it was...he just wasn't normal....and he did the best he could in this life. 

I can't, in all good conciousness, deny that some people are different.  As long as there's no harm done (to children, etc.) I can't demonize it.  Does that make sense?

It's a choice I'd never make for myself.  Sometimes we just need to live and let live.  As long as it's not thrown in our faces as a choice we'd have to make.

I miss my friend.  He'd be the biggest advocate here for sensiblity...if he were still here.  He hated what he'd been handed in this life.  He just wanted to be somewhat "normal". 

Which is why I am trying, (apparently not to successfully) to make people here accept that it is what it is...it's not a VRWC as Hillary says.  It just is.

 

Homosexuality is caused by

Homosexuality is caused by an excess of CO2 in the atmosphere from industrial sources.  We are polluting ourselves into sodomy.

Homosexuality is cause for alarm

Homosexuality is caused by an excess of CO2 in the atmosphere from industrial sources. We are polluting ourselves into sodomy.

Is there a consensus on that?

Is there an award winning documentary about that we can show in schools?

Can I have a doctorate?

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Call it "An Inconvenient

Call it "An Inconvenient Poot".

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

Caused by Global Warming

Since everything else in the world now is caused by global warming, it only stands to reason that homosexuality is caused by it, too.  Certainly the gay rights crowd has expelled millions of cubic feet of hot air by now. 

Time for Camp

I'm sure Governor Richardson is now safely tucked away in a liberal re-education center located somewhere underground in New Mexico.

Candy is the reason most men

Candy is the reason most men are republican.

Cure in sight?

I wonder if gays have considered this: If homosexuality is biological, might it be possible one day to cure or prevent it?

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Well that would follow

Well that would follow yes:)

We could fight it just like AIDS!

Or maybe AIDS is a choice...?

From that picture, something

From that picture, something tells me Candy is the product of a quickie between Cass Elliott and Tiny Tim.

Facts and the MSM

So what's the surprise. Sice when has anyone at CNN let the facts get in the way of a good story? Happy Trails...

Candy along with Bill

Candy along with Bill Schneider, the other senior political so-called reporter for CNN are going to be there until the cows come home....

I just laugh most the time at both their meaningless reports....just like the network they are employed by...

Meaningless.

Candy Crowley looks just

Candy Crowley looks just like John Candy in drag.  Just an observation.

I miss John Candy, ol' Uncle Buck.

Candy is dandy, but liqor

Candy is dandy, but liqor is quicker....

She also looks like John Travolta in Hairspray!


 

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She sure is ugly!

She sure is ugly! Woo-hoo! 

Well, so are you.

Well, so are you.

  The curious thing about

  The curious thing about homosexuality is that it remains a fairly constant percentage.  Since homosexuals by themselves do not reproduce there must be a more complex psychological process at work than just genetics.

   Here is a good example for further study.

Eye Candy

Eye-candy. Bigfoot. 'Nuff said.

Saying that homosexuality is

Saying that homosexuality is genetic is an easy way for someone to cop-out of taking personal responsibility for the fact that they themselves CHOOSE with whom they will have sex, just as I choose to have a monogamous relationship with my wife (I have to - she tells me she doesn't understand what the word "divorce" means, but she sure as heck knows what the word "homicide" means...).

Flipside: Saying that

Flipside: Saying that homosexuality is a choice is an easy way for people to frame that lifestyle as a weakness, instead of something gays can't help anymore than we can help being hetero.

So you're saying that

So you're saying that homosexuals have absolutely NO control over
their sexual conduct? I think that you give them less credit than they
deserve. Saying that they "can't help" reduces their conduct and mentality to that of
a simple animal, with no control over their actions and no thought or emotional process involved.

BTW, you're reading into my comment that which is not there - I didn't attempt to "frame that lifestyle as a weakness", nor did I make a value judgment for or against the "lifestyle" (and use of that word doesn't imply a choice of how one lives?) of homosexuals. I said that homosexuals make a choice in their sexuality and they should own up to it being a choice and not a biological condition.

Not saying they have no

Not saying they have no control over their sexual conduct. Saying they have no control over which gender they're attracted to sexually.

That my friend is the same

That my friend is the same thing!

"I hired you to get some track laid, not jump around like a bunch a kansas city faggots" Slim Pickens

just like peds can't control

just like peds can't control their attraction to kids - so it's cruel to try and stop them too, isn't it bal:)?

Philias

Well it's true. Which is why the likes of NAMBLA was within the rank and file of the gay rights movement not too long ago.

Birds of a feather do flock together.

It's interesting that the

It's interesting that the gay activists would choose to be "helpless victims" rather than taking pride in what they are. Must be the leftie spin.  It's kind of a contradiction to be an activist for something that doesn't involve choice, isn't it?

the contradictions abound

the contradictions abound don't they?

My Opinion!

It doesn't take a "scientific" study to show anything. Every gay person I have known or been friends with is completely screwed up in the head, the events leading to the "screwing of the head" (sorry) could be many things except biological. It has and always will be Psychological issues that turn them into being "Fabulous".

On a personal note, how could anyone possibly be gay after checking out the t-shirt girl for the past week.....wait I take that back if I were a woman I might turn!

"I hired you to get some track laid, not jump around like a bunch a kansas city faggots" Slim Pickens

}}---> Another angle

Who would choose a life of being so ostracized, and laughed at.

I think there's a tendency.  I can't define it.  Until science identifies a specific gene, it remains a tendency.  A scientific consensus is always a smokescreen to promote opinion and agenda in the absence of supporting data.

CA, I couldn't agree more,

CA, I couldn't agree more, it's just that the tendency isn't genetic or biological. It's brought about from life events whatever they may be.

I don't recall any strippers or prostitutes that were born that way, some event or series of events led them to that path. Most of us on NB were not born conservative, we came to those conclusions from various sources and logic and I for one think it's just FABULOUS.

"I hired you to get some track laid, not jump around like a bunch a kansas city faggots" Slim Pickens