Sheer Hypocrisy? Openly-Gay CNN Anchor Thinks Gay Bachmann Joke Is Hilarious
CNN host Don Lemon cracked up over a raunchy joke about Michele Bachmann's husband, on Sunday night's 6 p.m. edition of Newsroom. Conservative guest Will Cain then confronted the openly-gay anchor over why it was okay to make fun of Bachmann appearing to be gay.
"If, as the joke suggests Marcus Bachmann is gay, but he hasn't come to grips with himself. Now, I'm asking two guys who've been through this process, honestly, I'm honestly curious, why is it okay to make fun of him then?" Cain inquired. Lemon "came out" about his orientation a year ago and expressed his wishes that prejudices about homosexuality would be overcome. [Video below the break. Audio here.]
Both Lemon and gay journalist L.Z. Granderson had lost it after watching comedian Jimmy Kimmel at Saturday's White House correspondents dinner. Kimmel used a raunchy gay slur at the expense of Bachmann and joked that he played a gay character on the ABC show Modern Family.
After repeated inquiries from Cain, Lemon finally offered a lame response. "I'm just going to say this. I'm assuming that he's flamboyant. It wasn't anything. I just thought it was a very funny joke, I didn't analyze it as much as you have, Will."
Granderson took another small jab at Bachmann when he joked about not knowing whether Lemon had "tried to convert gay people" when he was a teenager. Bachmann runs a Christian counseling clinic in Minnesota.
On the May 16 edition of HLN's Joy Behar Show from last year, Behar asked Lemon if people's minds would be changed if they "would just get that, that it's not a choice, that this is the way people are born." Lemon answered that "it would be great if people would get that." Apparently he thinks it's okay, however, to laugh at a Christian therapist who appears to be flamboyant.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on April 29 on Newsroom at 6:14 p.m. EDT, is as follows:
(Video Clip)
KIMMEL: Keith Olbermann burned more bridges than the arsonist of Madison County. He has more pink slips than Marcus Bachmann. Too soon? Too soon? If you're not familiar with Marcus Bachmann, he plays Cameron on the show Modern Family. Stand up and – where are you Marcus? Oh, there he is.
(End Video Clip)
(Laughter)
CAIN: Okay, now I have a question for you guys, okay?
(Laughter)
GRANDERSON: That was just wrong. That was wrong.
LEMON: He has more pink slips than Marcus Bachmann.
CAIN: Let me ask you a question, let me be the host and ask you guys a question. And I'm genuinely curious here. If, as the joke suggests Marcus Bachmann is gay, but he hasn't come to grips with himself. Now, I'm asking two guys who've been through this process, honestly, I'm honestly curious, why is it okay to make fun of him then? Is it just because of his politics? Or because he's a public figure? I'm really curious, why is it okay?
GRANDERSON: Oh, Will, stop it. Stop it, Will.
CAIN: I'm serious.
LEMON: I'll let you have this one.
GRANDERSON: (Laughing) First of all –
LEMON: Look at this video first of all.
(Video plays of Marcus and Michele Bachmann dancing)
CAIN: No, no, no, you don't have to convince me of anything. I'm just asking why it's okay.
LEMON: Well, listen, before L.Z. answers, I'm just going to say this. I'm assuming that he's flamboyant. It wasn't anything. I just thought it was a very funny joke, I didn't analyze it as much as you have, Will. But anyway, go on, L.Z.
GRANDERSON: No, you know what? Don and I have been friends for years, but I wasn't around Don when he was a teenager, so I don't know if he tried to convert gay people or not. But it just seems funny that when –
(Laughter)
– that when you are having flamboyant mannerisms and your livelihood is to convert gay men to be straight, it's just funny. It's just funny, man. I don't know. I don't even care what his politics happens to be. It's just kind of a funny thing when you juxtapose the two images, that's all.
(Crosstalk)
LEMON: I saw this – I saw it as a funny joke.
GRANDERSON: (Laughing)
LEMON: Okay. Anyway, did we satisfy your curiosity, by the way, since you're so curious?
CAIN: Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt it's a funny joke. But there's a lot of funny jokes in the world. So I was just wondering why it was okay. But I mean, it's a decent answer. But I was really curious genuinely.
LEMON: All right. We'll move on.
CAIN: I didn't mean to rain on your parade.
LEMON: We'll move on before this becomes something way crazier. I can see the bloggers already, they're like – (pretends to type)
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 12:42pm.
This......is CNN!!!!
CNN?
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:44pm.
Devolving from Clinton News Network to Communist News Network to Comedy (or "commie-dy") News Network?
Well, the Lemon Squeezer is a
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 12:45pm.
Well, the Lemon Squeezer is a black liberal homo - so that is off limits.....................but Bachmann is a white Republican, so all bets are off.
It's funny because Bachmann
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 12:49pm.
It's funny because Bachmann is a gay man pretending to be straight. The Granderson guy also pointed out the fact that Bachmann tries to "convert" gays, yet he himself is as flamboyant as Elton John.
And you know
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 12:56pm.
this how? Because somebody on the Daily Show or CNN said so? Are you personally threatened by what Bachmann does? If so, why?
How do you know Bachmann is gay?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 12:56pm.
Have you personal experience with the subject?
If not, you are just another pseudo-conservative troll showing us just how bad your attention-seeking personality disorder is manifesting.
Quite interesting tactic you have, right out of the Democrat/liberal script of whining about "intolerance" and then accusing others of the biases you hold.
Please do tell this aging psychiatrist what motivates you to make such absurd statements.
He IS a psuedo-conservative
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:05pm.
He IS a psuedo-conservative troll. He used to be goldwaterfan and people recognized him by his name and started calling him "yellowwaterfan". He apparently whined and took his ball home.
I guess he wants to now be called "yellowwater89".
Isn't that right...yellowwater89?
There used to be another
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:09pm.
There used to be another Goldwater fan here? Shame I missed him or her.
Yeah, yeah, playing dumb.
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:11pm.
Yeah, yeah, playing dumb. Wait a minute, maybe you're not playing.
*feigns surprise*
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:02pm.
Like you didn't know the "old" goldwater got booted during the same timeframe your "89" account was created.
Like that?
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How do I know he's gay? Did
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:08pm.
How do I know he's gay? Did you seriously just ask me that? Do you think Richard Simmons is also a heterosexual?
What part of the question did
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:09pm.
What part of the question did your pointed little head not understand, yellowwater89?
I thought
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:29pm.
homosexuals had made the rule that no one can "tell" if another person is homosexual.
So if you are positive, that means you have first hand knowledge. Did you pitch or catch with Mr Bachman? (I'm guessing you had the face mask and backwards cap)
I'm sure you still think
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:34pm.
I'm sure you still think Larry Craig is straight, right?
Answer Tugboat Phil's
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:47pm.
Answer Tugboat Phil's question, Claire.
Answer the question, Goldie. How do you know?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:48pm.
Stop deflecting. Stop lying. Answer the question.
How do you know Marcus Bachmann is gay?
As pointed out to you, the LGBT movement has made it clear that their take on the issue of sexuality is that no one can tell sexuality just by physical appearance. Psychiatry generally says the same.
How do you know Marcus Bachmann is gay? How many times do we have to repeat the question for your Arctic IQ to comprehend and answer?
Is the Pope Catholic? Do
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:59pm.
Is the Pope Catholic? Do Zebras have stripes? Does 2+2=4? It's just basic logic. Oh, and is there one person who speaks for every single LGBT person, Doctor? I'm not just talking about his physical appearance. I'm talking about his voice, his body language, and his mannerisms in general.
yellowbelly89, answer the
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:09pm.
yellowbelly89,
answer the question, loser. Have you met Mr. Bachman face to face?
His voice, body language and mannerism in general? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
So, in other words, you are stereotyping.
You can't be serious, can you? You are one radical wacko.
Do you think Richard Simmons
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:18pm.
Do you think Richard Simmons is gay or straight? Would you still be defending Bachmann if he came out and said he was gay?
So what you're saying is....
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:24pm.
you have no proof.
Sorry, you lose.
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And after you wrote that, he
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:41pm.
And after you wrote that, he has the nerve to lie and say, "YES! ALL RIGHT! I MET HIM!" He couldn't take the pressure apparently.
"Gaydar" is a proven
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:48pm.
"Gaydar" is a proven scientific fact. There are studies to back up the claim.
Bath house studies...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:55pm.
got a link?
You Didn't Build That.
Link or slink, troll boy
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:03pm.
Let's see your proven scientific gaydar study.
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Gaydar ?
Submitted by nixon on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:30pm.
As you' ve called a person out as being gay without really knowing that person , are you blessed with this gift ?
What's odds of two brothers being gay?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:46pm.
Outside of small Texas towns, apparently higher than one would think.
yellowbelly89, ANSWER THE
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:29pm.
yellowbelly89,
ANSWER THE QUESTION.....
HAVE YOU MET MR. BACHMAN?!
Man, you are one sad fool.
Please stop with the petty
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:35pm.
Please stop with the petty insults. You aren't accomplishing anything by doing that. And yes, I've seen the man in person and he makes Tim Gunn look like John Wayne.
You aren't accomplishing
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:38pm.
You aren't accomplishing anything by being in here, troll.
You started the insults. Deal with it.
Now where did you see him? When? Did you actually talk to him? Meet with him?
Or you're just lying through the holes where there should be teeth?
Leave Gaydar89 alone ,he feels it man; and it's a consensus!
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:51pm.
Got any bath house photos?
You Didn't Build That.
Please stop insulting says they guy throwing around slurs.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:57pm.
You go girl. You are so much more adult than everyone else in the room.
There's nothing new about calling somebody gay based on a lisp or a girlish gait. We all saw, did, or suffered it in grade school. What's unusual is seeing grown-up gays and liberals do it in 2011 with such open ridicule.
yellowbelly89,
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:18pm.
yellowbelly89,
BWAHAHAHA...you sad fool.
You insult us with your mere presence. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Date, time, occassion, place, etc, etc. You know you are lying. If this was a fact, you would have said so the second someone challanged you and everyone, including you knows it.
you ran in here, stereotyped Mr. Bachman, you were caught and you aren't man enough to admit you made a mistake.
AND "gaydar" are you this stupidly "serious"?
You and everyone else here knows that you are spewing stupid Left wing propaganda. You moron, I also read Left wing sites and you are repeating like a parrot what I have read there about Mr. Bachman.
But nice of you to stereotype people.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:33pm.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18954191
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18810629
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21483863
You can't be that dumb!
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:44pm.
Oh wait, Bretzy's already said that!
Those are ABSTRACTS of research, not the research.
Sorry, FAIL. Try again.
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Hey if you can convince
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:47pm.
Hey if you can convince yourself that you won then more power to ya!
yellowbelly89, 1) None of
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:47pm.
yellowbelly89,
1) None of these seem to be peer reviewed.
2) The second one talks about a persons personal interests and feelings. Hmmm....do you know Mr. Bachman well enough that you can speak to his personal interests and feelings? If not your assertion he is homosexual, according to the second study from Northwestern University, is flawed! hahaha!!!
3) The last one speaks of races and that supposedly in those races where there is a more defined role for men and women, it is easier to identify for the person of the same race, whether someone is homosexual.
But three "studies" thrown together with no peer review, without countless of other studies to back these up hardly means that your "gayradar" stupidity is true.
don't tell me you are one of those easily led tools who believes that when a university speaks or writes something it must be true? LOL
Yea, seen the photos, of that science...,
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:50pm.
http://www.ushmm.org/education/foreducators/workshop/photos/71187.jpg
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6rXFUCMK4mK2b256wMejbyeECq19xe...
You Didn't Build That.
Upcountrywater, Funny, the
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:59pm.
Upcountrywater,
Funny, the pictures you put up is exactly what came ot mind when I read the ridiculous "studies" yellowbelly89 linked us to.
Amazing that studies like this would be used by anyone or believed by anyone. If you read them they talk about facial expressions, mouth movement, race, personal interests and feelings etc, etc. something right out of the Third Reich. Leave it to yellowbelly89 to so easily fall for this.
goldwater89 LIES AGAIN right through his green teeth.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:59pm.
All the studies concern people picking out OPENLY GAY MEN. Not closeted gay men.
That's a totally understandable constraint. You can't score the students' accuracy if you don't know which men are gay. But it also limits your ability to generalize the findings. Even in a candid group photo on somebody else's Facebook page, a man presents himself, consciously or not. His hair, his eyes, and his expression may all be influenced by his identity and the patterns of presentation he associates with that identity. If one of every five openly gay men displays a visual signal strong enough to pick up, that'll boost your gaydar accuracy to 60 percent.
What it won't do is extend your gaydar into the closet. A man who doesn't identify himself as homosexual might not absorb or project homosexual patterns of presentation. He isn't trying to fit in with gay men. He's trying to fit in with straight men. So when you hear a lisp or see a fussy walk, you can't infer that it's a signal. Subtract the people who lisp for effect, and you're left with the people who lisp because they can't help it.
Unless homosexuality comes with innate visible or audible characteristics, gaydar is signal-reading. And signal-reading ends where the signal fades: in most cases, at the limits of gay self-awareness. Yes, some closet cases give off a vibe. But it's wildly unlikely that they'll do so with the same frequency or clarity as openly gay men. Which leaves you with a much higher error rate than you might infer from these studies.
So you are a bigoted troll?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:10pm.
The one association that speaks for psychiatry is the American Psychiatric Association. Its position, along with all other major behavioral health professional organizations, is that sexuality cannot be discerned solely by looking at a person's appearance. GLAAD, HRC and other organizations that support gay issues have said the same thing repeatedly. Again--stop with the deflection. You are talking about your bigoted opinion only.
If you have issues with Marcus Bachmann's appearance, then discuss those with him. Until you provide concrete proof that you know Marcus Bachmann personally and can attest that he is gay then your statements appear more to be driven by your own sexual inadequacies and confusion than any facts.
Don't bother with the childish questions in reply. Nobody really cares that you have the maturity of a 13 year old.
This coming from a guy who
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:13pm.
This coming from a guy who believes in Conversion therapy. Dr. Freud would be ashamed.
And oh right, I'M the bigot! How laughable.
*steps quietly away while
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:15pm.
*steps quietly away while drsam is about ready to give a good head-pounding to the troll*
here bretzy*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:23pm.
Have some of my popcorn....;-)
I've looked up the man on
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:26pm.
I've looked up the man on google and he works in some small Texas (of course) town. He wouldn't be able to get a job anyplace else.
Yeah, gotta make fun of
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:30pm.
Yeah, gotta make fun of southern people from small towns. Keep up with the stereotypes.
Nice to hear that you're stalking him too. Is your mom proud of you?
LOL goldwater*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:36pm.
Better read doc's profile again. Oh and google Small Texas town...rofl
Admin Alert. How much more of this crap are we to take?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:51pm.
We have an anonymous moniker that thinks nothing of using his anonymity to insult people with real names, real occupations, in real locations.
This is what the anonymous nature of the internet is for?
Real names and occupations..
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:03pm.
Real names and occupations.. His own USERNAME says that! He freely volunteered everything else. But please, continue your quest in silencing those with different opinions.
And that has to do what with your insult?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:11pm.
YellowBelly89: ..small Texas (of course) town. He wouldn't be able to get a job anyplace else.
Go back to lying about studies where students pick out pictures of openly gay men and tell us how that applies to men trying to hide their identity. Much like you hide your identity in order to lie and disparage people with real names. Just like the coward you are. You earned the nickname Yellow Belly. Live with it.
Leadwater...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:44pm.
A small Texas town? My, quite the elitist, are you?
Hate to break you heart, but San Antonio is actually the eighth largest city in terms of population in the United States.
And as for you, you shouldn't be hired anywhere, because the only thing you do is lie, and the only thing you excel at is lying.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I wasn't talking about San
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:55pm.
I wasn't talking about San Antonio. I was talking about Duncanville. Get with the program.
Bark orders at me? I don't think so
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:59pm.
drsamherman is from San Antonio, not Duncanville. YOU, lying sack of crap, get with the program.
Liars don't get to bark orders at me.
By the way, go study your Texas geography, figure out the differences between psychology and psychiatry, quit being a hate-filled bigot, and learn to stop lying.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I know all about American
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:06pm.
I know all about American geography. I know quite well the difference between the two. Thanks for the concern though. Always amusing when a bigot tries to call someone else a bigot.
scorecard
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:08pm.
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Now I get it, it took a while
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:10pm.
you're Lynchmo's twin brother, right? The equally intelligent sibling of Van Damage? Because your style of writing is much the same, your knowledge and use of facts is the same, namely, non-existent. But, thanks for playing, slick. Good night, now, bigot. I"m sure you have to cruise Times Square, looking for some action, right?
For the hate-filled bigot leadwater...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:21pm.
If you knew one damn thing about American geography you'd know that San Antonio is not a small Texas town, and likewise you would know that Duncanville is part of a heavily populated region of Texas called the Metroplex. Leadwater, the Metroplex - forget it.
I'd love to know how I am a bigot. I know you are, because once again here you are a "Rockefeller Republican" busily attacking conservatives. And how are you doing it? By calling Mr. Bachmann "gay" 1) without proof and 2) as if it is in fact a bad thing. That, and your constant insistence on the existence of something called "gaydar" (based on flawed studies you cite) suggest to me that you are heavily imbued with homophobia.
I have gay friends, and I had to be told on those occasions that they were gay. But then, I judge people on their actions and behavior towards myself and others...not on anything else. You, on the other hand, are seeking to detect those around you who are homosexual. Why, leadwater89? Let me guess...because YOU ARE THE BIGGEST HOMOPHOBE HERE. And thus, a bigot.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Do you support any gay
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:33pm.
Do you support any gay rights? Who said calling Bachmann "gay" was a bad thing? "I have gay friends" is always the argument bigots try and fall back when they're called out. Same way racists will tell that they aren't racist because they "have black friends." Just because you don't like the results of the studies doesn't make them flawed.
Define "Gay Rights"
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:36pm.
So we may better answer.
Gay marriage, adoption by
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:43pm.
Gay marriage, same-sex adoption, hate crime legislation, etc
When someone is beat-up
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:44pm.
or worst, it that not hate on all accounts?
Why cant Gays find their own ceremony and culture, why must they demand the change of others?
This is America!
Targeting someone based
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:50pm.
Targeting someone based specifically on their ethnicity or sexuality is a hate crime.
Well sure,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:55pm.
Unless they are a straight White Male, it is. The price for any crime has to be equal, or there is no equality you creep. What make you suddenly so great in the eyes of Justice? What about those I love, are they not worthy?
Creep comment isn't necessary
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:09pm.
If there's evidence that they were targeted because of their skin color, then yes, it's a hate crime.
No, the creep comment isn't necessary
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:13pm.
but for you we'll make an exception.
The idiocy of group rights
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:19pm.
Your belief that there is such a thing as a "hate crime" tells me everything I need to know about you: that you are the biggest racist/bigot here, and that you hate your own country with an unrivaled passion.
Here's why: by saying you think there is such a thing as a "hate crime", you tell me that the basis of law in this country is stupid, outmoded, and archaic. Individual rights and liberties to you are beyond idiotic. Instead, you believe in "group rights": a belief that everyone should be classed into different groups and assigned different rights and privileges base on what group they belong to.
Which makes you a racist/bigot of the highest order. Why? Because you simply refuse to believe that people are individuals. You class everyone into groups of people and decide how you will treat them based on that. It's disgusting and an insult to all those who you deal with.
By the way, I have yet to hear of a crime where someone is attacked/robbed/raped in a kinder, gentler, more loving way...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
And I learn from Unsane again.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 4:04am.
I have heard the arguments against hate crime legislation before. Excellent clarifying the group rights thing sir.
Targeted?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:21pm.
Good god dude, the weak are always the target. I ask again, what makes your offense worst.
Only a creep thinks himself better, and unaccountable by their own standards.
I for one am sick of this divide and crush technique. You folks should start tyring of it to!
Hey yellowbelly, WTF is 'same sex adoption'?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:57pm.
You wanna train something, rescue a puppy at the animal shelter. You could get a male or a female. No need to screw up a human being; they live a lot longer than 12 years or so.
Let's see, you and your brother are both gay - any lesbian sisters you wanna tell us about?
ps: is your last name Caligula by any chance?
Nah, Caligula's not his last
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:08pm.
Nah, Caligula's not his last name. According to his rules, your username has to be your real name.
You're right, they should
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:17pm.
You're right, they should stay in an orphanage. It would be terrible for them to go to a loving home.
More like it was a home for
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:20pm.
More like it was a home for overly spoiled brats.
Hmmm...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:21pm.
So orphanages are incapable of being loving environments?
What a judgmental prick we have here, masquerading as someone who cares...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Orphanage?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:26pm.
Sounds dramatic, but what century are you referring to?
He won't
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:42pm.
He knows that we won't embrace, endorse and glorify the culture like he wants to, but more than likely that's going to be his definition. Anybody want to place bets?
Uh, leadwater...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:09pm.
I have gay friends. I don't have a problem with them. They aren't a bunch of idiots like you are. If they were I'd keep my distance.
They already have the same rights and privileges that I do, so the whole "gay rights" thing to me is BS.
I really am amused by a hate-filled homophobic bigot like you, who seeks to identify homosexuals from afar so that he can avoid them, calling ME a bigot. "I have gay friends" is a fact. It's not an argument. It just is. Deal with it.
And unlike you I simply don't care what they do in their spare time. Nor do I care who they want to be intimate with. People being gay or straight has no bearing on their character. Bigots like you don't get that.
Your studies are extremely flawed, and your constant citing of them is only showing me just how much a hate-filled bigot you are. Why, I bet if I took you through the Montrose area in Houston, you would be FILLED with overwhelming FEAR.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
"Same rights that I do." Too
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:11pm.
"Same rights that I do." Too funny. But thanks for confirming what I already know: you're a homophobic bigot.
So you admit that in your
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:17pm.
So you admit that in your eyes, they must have MORE rights than everyone else.
Are you sure you're not Dan Savage and you just made a speech trashing a hundred people?
Oh, wait, you're not. That's not your username.
*snort*
Marrying the person that they
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:20pm.
Marrying the person that they love is the SAME right that you have. What part of that is so difficult for you to comprehend?
They have the right to marry
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:26pm.
They have the right to marry a person of the opposite sex just like everyone else. You want to talk about broad definitions of marriage (i.e. why can't those who love horses marry their horses) and open up a bigger can of worms? Go ahead. You dug yourself just as big of holes here elsewhere in this thread, and you probably see yourself as no chance of passing your final exams (that is, if you ARE a student), and becoming the dignified physician we all oh so hope for you to become. So go ahead, have at it! We're WAITING...
Just keep in mind this: you
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:30pm.
Just keep in mind this: you know the Breitbart quote, "Doubling down on stupid is not a good idea?" So far, not only have you QUINTUPLED down on stupid, but so far, you're worse than when Homer Simpson said, "Hit me." when the cards showed 21. I suggest you leave the blackjack table broke.
Um, no...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:30pm.
Actually, I have no right to be married. None. And I am straight.
There is absolutely no right to be married whatsoever.
And marriage is not about love. Only a deeply self-absorbed prick like yourself would believe marriage is about love.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
S.O.S - DD, goldwater89, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:35pm.
meaning 'same old shit - different day.'
Heard it all, many times before on these threads.
Most tiresome, and MOST unconvincing.
Hang in there, though; if Barack is successful, and the Muslims introduce Sharia law throughout the land - you will get a schooling reference the "rights" of gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals and trans-genders that you will never forget.
MD
What if you love a minor?
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:04pm.
And the minor loves you. Should you be allowed to get married (you pervert you)?
Your a bigger bigot,, creep
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:27pm.
Your list:
Number 1 reason Gay folks have no Rights:
Number 2,
Number 3,?
Thanks in advance
Try again
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:27pm.
They do have the same rights I do. They can vote. They can own property. In fact, I can't think of a single thing I can do that they can't.
I hate to break it to you, but jumping up and down like a temper tantrum throwing toddler screaming "Homophobic bigot! Homophobic bigot! Homophobic bigot!" over and over and over again doesn't make it so. So much for that superior education you are getting at Columbia.
And what is laughable is the unavoidable fact that you are the biggest racist/bigot here. You are the one using "gay" as an insult, not I. You are the one classifying people into groups to determine what kind of treatment they will get, not I. You are the one talking about using "gaydar" to avoid gays, not I.
But I guess calling everyone else a bigot makes you feel justified in your own bigotry.
Not only are you a liar, but you are a hate-filled asshole too. No wonder you get no respect around here: you deserve none. And that's just for being a liar.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Question goldwater*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:00pm.
Have you ever been to Dallas? What is the difference between Queens, Manhattan, the Bronx, ??
Is there a pool on how
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:01pm.
Is there a pool on how closely goldtrolls answer will be to the Wikipedia descriptions?
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I was thinking his fanny,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:23pm.
But 50/50 either way!
Conversion Therapy
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:45pm.
You believe that a 40 year old that comes out publicly is just someone finally being in touch with who they are. But you find it impossible that another 40 year old living as a homosexual could as easily decide that he's actually not.
That's pretty consistent.
Tugboat, Well, you are
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:52pm.
Tugboat,
Well, you are talking about a fool and Liberals. The last thing these tools are is consistent.
They can believe that a man/woman living as a heterosexual can "accept" their homosexuality at any age and live as a homosexual.
But their tiny brains can't accept that a person living as a homosexual can "accept" their heterosexuality at any age and live as heterosexuals.
This poor sap yellowbelly has been brainwashed through and through and he spews stupidity.
Look how he can't believe that there is such a thing as Conversion therapy for a homosexual, but he will no doubt believe in homosexual support groups who help heterosexuals come out of the closet. Pure unadultered stupidity from the likes of yellowbelly89.
I run into this type of complete irrationality all the time here at the university where I work.
The American Psychiatric
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:10pm.
The American Psychiatric Association's official web site notes that: "There is no published scientific evidence supporting the efficacy of 'reparative therapy' as a treatment to change one’s sexual orientation, nor is it included in the APA's Task Force Report, Treatments of Psychiatric Disorders.
In 1998, at its December 11-12 meeting, the American Psychiatric Association Board of Trustees unanimously endorsed a position statement opposing reparative therapy. According to the 1998 position statement:
"The potential risks of 'reparative therapy' are great, including depression, anxiety and self-destructive behavior, since therapist alignment with societal prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce self-hatred already experienced by the patient."
"Many patients who have undergone 'reparative therapy' relate that they were inaccurately told that homosexuals are lonely, unhappy individuals who never achieve acceptance or satisfaction."
"The possibility that the person might achieve happiness and satisfying interpersonal relationships as a gay man or lesbian is not presented, nor are alternative approaches to dealing with the effects of societal stigmatization discussed."
"Therefore, the American Psychiatric Association opposes any psychiatric treatment, such as 'reparative' or 'conversion' therapy which is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon a prior assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation. The American Psychiatric Association recognizes that in the course of ongoing psychiatric treatment, there may be appropriate clinical indications for attempting to change sexual behaviors."
----
But hey, don't let the PROFESSIONALS tell YOU the facts.
yellowbelly89, Is this the
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:16pm.
yellowbelly89,
Is this the same APA which is doing everything it can to decriminalize pedophilia and even attempting to get the main stream to believe that it is not a mental disorder?
The same APA which said pedophilia is untreatable?
That same APA....
You buffoon, this is comign from an APA run by pro-homosexuals and homosexualsl who are desperate for society to accept their abnormality as normal.
I love how everything is a
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:27pm.
I love how everything is a conspiracy to you. "Darn those doctors and their evil homosexuals cohorts!"
Pitiful. Please don't reply to me anymore. There's no point in debating an ignorant bigot. It's a waste of time.
You're free to leave any time
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:30pm.
And LL is free to continue to post anywhere, anytime he likes.
What are you going to do about it other than whine like a baby?
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No, he's right!
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:51pm.
Read carefully what ol' troll retread wrote:
Please don't reply to me anymore. There's no point in debating an ignorant bigot. It's a waste of time.
Let's quickly parse it out.
So I think I have to agree with what he/she/it said here.
Model850, Well played, very
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:59pm.
Model850,
Well played, very well played.
You are right. We should not reply to the ignorant bigot yellowbelly89, as he/she/it so stated.
hahahaha.....
Blonde, This yellowbelly89
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:55pm.
Blonde,
This yellowbelly89 is something else.
I can only shake my head at the level of stupidity, hypocrisy, irrationality that he has displayed through this forum.
But typical of the irrational, hyper-emotional, don't care about morality, hypocrite militant pro-homosexuals.
yellowbelly89, Nah....you
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:49pm.
yellowbelly89,
Nah....you aren't this big of a hypocrite, are you? no....LOL You accuse me of spewing conspiracy theories when you are all over this board spewing the conspiracy theory that Mr. Bachman is a homosexual.
You sad, sad hypocrite.
No doubt the irony of your words escape you. You poor buffoon.
The FACT that the APA has openly and loudly said that pedophilia should be decriminalized and it is untreatable is a conspiracy, even though a quick search on google will prove this.
Anyone with any type of integrity admits that the APA is pro-homosexual and it has a pro-homosexual agenda. But not that you would know anything about integrity.
Just admit it, yellowbelly89, you were caught in your lies and stupidity. You can't stand the facts and are now desperate to cover up your bigotry, hate of anything Conservative.
Don't worry, I wasn't having a conversation with you or debating with you, i was lecturing you and proving you wrong.
I see that like a good Liberal wacko you turned to using "bigot" when the facts don't agree with your stupidity and now are attempting to shame me by calling me a bigot. hahaha!!
Yes, I am a bigot against homosexual sexual behavior. Do you think I care what you think of me? I wear my pin of bigotry against homosexual sexual behavior with pride and shove it down the throat of those who attempt to force me to believe that homosexual sex acts are normal. If you have a problem with that, tough luck. LOL
and if you don't like my replies to you, guess what...stop posting on NB. :-)
And WHEN did I say I believe in "conversion therapy"?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:48pm.
Please cite the post where I did? I have repeatedly said on my other posts that psychiatry does not consider homosexuality to be a mental disorder, as that definition was removed in 1973 long before I went into residency. I don't even have a copy of an old DSM where it states homosexuality is a mental disorder. The medical community gave up on treating homosexuality as a mental disease because it came to the realization there are no reliable therapies. You made this about Marcus Bachmann because of your own bigotry, sexual inadequacies and doubts. If you are having that difficult of a time deciding which bed to lay in, see a therapist. And stop lying about what people have said on this board.
You proceed to say a number of things about Marcus Bachmann which have no factual basis based on known documentation. Makes you either a liar or someone with very deep confusion about your own sexuality. You also seem to be quite intellectually challenged, to say the least.
I live in San Antonio, the third largest city in Texas and I'm a proud Latino. I'm also Catholic. I'm also board certified in psychiatry, neurology and sub-certified in neurophysiology. What are your educational credentials? Perhaps a BS in BS?
And for the record, I also said I'm not a Freudian. Freudians are a very small minority within mental health practitioners.
Just a few more ticks off the chart and you'll be into full-blown delusional disorder with a sexual obsession to boot. Freud would say a lot about that, particularly your prejudices and bigotry on very superficial observations you make.
Duncanville isn't San
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:05pm.
Gaydar has proven scientific data to back it up. And of course they gave up on treating it because it's NOT a mental disorder.
"Some psychologists and psychiatrists still hold negative personal attitudes toward homosexuality. However, empirical evidence and professional norms do not support the idea that homosexuality is a form of mental illness or is inherently linked to psychopathology."
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_mental_health.html
I support gay marriage, gay adoption, just gay rights in general. Do you? Really want to throw around the bigotry card, now?
yellowbelly89, yes, you are
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:12pm.
yellowbelly89,
yes, you are a bigot or at leats the stupidity you have written here shows you are a bigot.
You support gay marriage, gay adoptions, gay "rights"? and this supposedly doesn't make you a bigot?
In other words, you support abnormal behavior and this supposedly proves you are not a bigot?
Hey, and before you keep on quoting psychologist, studies, etc., you may want to know that these same individuals you are furiously attempting to use to back you up also support decriminalizing and stop listing as a psychological problem pedophilia. But you go ahead, you keep on back up your stupidity with individuals who believe pedophilia should be removed from APA's list of psychological problems.
I can see a not too far future where yellowbelly89 will be furiously linking people up to studies proving that pedophilia is not a crime and because university studies and psychologists said so, pedophilia is not a mental problem either.
Bigots, radicals, easily led fools is what the Left is full of, oh wait, yellowbelly89 loves to claim he is a goldwater conservative...hahaha!!!
You hate the Bachmans with the same hate that you claim Conservatives should not have towards gay, even though most of us do not have such hate, and yet you cry over being called a bigot.
I don't hate the Bachmann's.
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:20pm.
I don't hate the Bachmann's. Not at all. I don't have any hate in my heart. I just pity them. I just think it's sad that Marcus is still in the closet.
yellowbelly89, What is your
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:34pm.
yellowbelly89,
What is your desperate need to believe that Mr. Bachman is a homosexual?
and you don't hate? You fooled everyone here on NB.
If you want to come out of the closet, go for it, but stop telling everyone here how Mr. Bachman is a homosexual who is still in the closet when you do not know this man personally.
Amazing how radicals love to use homosexuality as a weapon against Conservatives. Pathetic.
You keep citing "proven scientific data"
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:13pm.
Yet you fail to provide any. Do you understand that the links you provided were to abstracts? Which merely discuss the purpose of the study.....that the abstract does NOT present any of the data, nor the conclusions?
But keep it up. We're enjoying watching you bash your head against the wall repeatedly.
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B, perhaps yellowbelly should bring in mamabear...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:22pm.
her gaydar is even more finely tuned than his... finger length is all she needs to make a diagnosis.
O.M.O! How could I have forgotten?
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:24pm.
Thanks, SoL, for keeping me on the straight *ahem* and narrow.
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YellowBelly89's links are garbage.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:32pm.
They only prove that students can barely identify the sexual identity of men when they openly identify themselves as homosexual. Barely then. It has nothing to do with men that are either not homosexual or actively trying to hide their identity.
The five key experiments, conducted by Nicholas Rule, Nalini Ambady, Reginald Adams Jr., and Neil Macrae...
~
But wait a minute. How did the researchers know which men on Facebook were gay? Answer: "We performed a search for men's profiles that indicated romantic or sexual interest in other men (i.e., self-identified homosexual men)." All the gay men were out. Not a closet case in the bunch.
I don't live in Duncanville.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 6:10pm.
And I don't practice psychology, I practice psychiatry. Psychiatry is a medical specialty requiring completion of medical school, a residency and board certification. Psychology is a social science with practice requirements that vary greatly from state to state. You can't even get facts straight.
You support gay rights, gay adoption and gay marriage. I express no opinion on homosexuality from a professional viewpoint because my training says it is not a mental disorder as defined by the DSM-IV(TR) current version.
The link you provided was an unsupported, non-reviewed opinion piece. It is no different than trusting an advertisement.
As for playing the "bigotry card", you have already insulted my profession, my home state and my practice. You are a bigot, and a stupid one at that.
Deal with your own inadequacies.
I never said you were a
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 6:58pm.
I never said you were a psychologist. But a doctor who goes around calling people "stupid" on the internet can't be a very good one. Insulted your profession? I'm training to become one.
Do YOU believe it is a mental disorder?
You put up a statement from a PSYCHOLOGY department
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 7:57pm.
to support your contention about psychiatrists and psychologists. It wasn't even a peer-reviewed piece. It was nothing but a statement on a university website.
I doubt you are in training to become a physician (or other healthcare professional) for three reasons:
a) You would have known that no health care professional is ever permitted to openly question the competence of another, as that is the exclusive province of our licensing boards. Doing so is, by the rules of every state licensing board, unprofessional conduct which can cause suspension, denial or revocation of the offender's license.
b) We physicians NEVER diagnose any disease except by the definitions imposed by our profession acting in appropriate capacity.
c) DSM-IV(TR) does not classify homosexuality as a mental disorder therefore I would have no professional basis to do so
You made many other critical errors:
a) Duncanville is a suburb of Dallas--a very large metro area
b) I do not LIVE in Duncanville - I live in San Antonio, which is almost 300 miles away
c) If you allege professional incompetence, I would be more than happy to see that you never get licensed by filing an appropriate complaint.
Stop lying.
a) You would have known that
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:20pm.
a) You would have known that no health care professional is ever permitted to openly question the competence of another, as that is the exclusive province of our licensing boards. Doing so is, by the rules of every state licensing board, unprofessional conduct which can cause suspension, denial or revocation of the offender's license. / I'm not practicing yet.
c) DSM-IV(TR) does not classify homosexuality as a mental disorder therefore I would have no professional basis to do so / That's not answering my question, but alright, hide behind that.
You made many other critical errors:
a) Duncanville is a suburb of Dallas--a very large metro area / 30,000 residents is not "very large."
b) I do not LIVE in Duncanville - I live in San Antonio, which is almost 300 miles away. / My research yielded no evidence of a Dr. Sam/Samuel Herman practicing in San Antonio, TX. I found a Samuel Herman Ross in Duncanville, however.
c) If you allege professional incompetence, I would be more than happy to see that you never get licensed by filing an appropriate complaint. / Don't threaten me.
WRONG again.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:26pm.
You enter the profession the minute you enter the formal education. That's the professional standard that has been in place in medicine for over a century.
As for "hiding behind" the answer, I answered you in my professional capacity. I have never been taught that homosexuality is a mental disorder so I cannot say that it is. So much for you knowing anything about diagnostic procedures and terminology. Or understanding the rules under which health care professions operate.
Duncanville is literally indistinguishable from Dallas because it runs right into the other Dallas suburbs. The city limits are a legal distinction, not a cultural one. You lose again.
As for "threatening you", you lose again. It is the responsibility of EVERY health care professional to report unprofessional conduct to our licensing boards when we see it. That is a standard of medicine which has been in place much longer than the formal education "entry" into the profession.
And pre-meds don't count as "studying" for medicine.
Stop lying. You never answered the question about why you use such superficial judgment to call Marcus Bachmann gay.
Must keep you busy, trying to use your arms to propel your canoe up that sewer-laden creek without an oar.
I did answer you. The same
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:37pm.
I did answer you. The same way I know Richard Simmons is gay: common sense.
And I study at Columbia in New York City, thank you very much.
Funny how you didn't answer my question about there being no evidence online of a Dr. Sam Herman in San Antonio, TX.
Not impressed
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:41pm.
Studying at Columbia? Are you a student there?
Either way, it doesn't say much for you at all. Columbia has had its share of embarassment for quite some time, quite a bit of it chronicled right here on NB.
(As much as it may pain you to admit, not everything is online.)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
so what is your real name goldwater?
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:45pm.
For no other reason than to verify your credibility, we need your name and city. Probably it is something similiar to another dead Kennedy but why you dont you share that with us all.
Richard Simmons and I have the same alma mata. He was always "out" btw.
I wouldn't brag about that Jim.
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:45pm.
When I was a Consultant assigned to Goldman Sachs and Barclays Capital, I met plenty of Columbia grads. I was not impressed. Neither was any other non-Columbia grad.
I think I'm going to call you Jim Taggert from now on. It fits.
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Hey, it's final exam time!
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:08pm.
Hey, it's final exam time! Shouldn't you at least TRY to be a competent physician and at least STUDY, instead of being on the computer ALL DAY?!?
Are you a medical student or just an undergrad?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:10pm.
As for there being no Dr Sam Herman in San Antonio, ever hear of screen names? Or do you propose to give your full real name on this board now?
You are hardly answering any questions. "Common sense" is never used in a professional context in medicine, nor is it an acceptable answer in any academic endeavor.
You lose again.
Oh, so now it's just a
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:16pm.
Oh, so now it's just a fictitious name? My suspicions were true after all: you're a fraud.
Oh, so is Gold Water your
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:22pm.
Oh, so is Gold Water your real name???
Hey, guess what... Unsane??? That's his REAL name!
Blonde, yeah, that's her REAL name!
Yeah, everyone here goes by their real names!
How in the world did you get ACCEPTED into Columbia?
Leadwater must have issued bribes
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:27pm.
Hell, how did he get accepted into ANY university in this country?
Yep, everyone calls me Unsane. No middle or last names either. I was inspired by Indonesian culture, as the country is a place where many people go by one name.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
You are so ******* weak
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:24pm.
So, Mr. Goldwater, is THAT your real name?
If not you are as big a fraud as anyone else here who uses a (gasp!) SCREEN NAME!!!
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
My real name is
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:35pm.
Boudin, and I live it Quebec, in case your interested.
Well, one thing's for sure, you're not a fraud, yellowbelly.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:45pm.
You've proven beyond a shadow of doubt you are a genuine, bonafide jackass.
Not quite.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:56pm.
Those are two of my family names.
Latinos tend to include lots of family and ancestral names in their full naming.
You are a medical student? Riiiiiiight....and the US federal budget is actually balanced.
So far, we've ascertained that: a) you don't know anything about health care professionals or the standards applied to them; b) you are an arrogant troll who deflects and denies; and c) you don't know squat about Texas. Texas has 9 more electoral votes than New York, making us far more important in political matters than your state. It really must get to you that your voice doesn't matter here or anywhere for that matter.
Ho hum. Another lying troll.
LOL
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:37pm.
Toiletwater doesn't even know what a "metro area" is!!
Take a look on this map.
Is this a sample of the portfolio for your ignorance? It's impressive.
"Toilet Water"....LOL!
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:39pm.
Quasi......beat me to it. I have been watching this all day......got a lot done, went to the bank, grocery shopping, sold some gold......cooking steaks on the BBQ right now.............And in the 4, to 5 hours, I spent, ACCOMPLISHING something, "Toilet Water" has continued his vomiting fit on this thread.......PATHETIC!!!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
Training to become one?
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:54pm.
Sure you are. We believe you. Now put the keyboard down, step back and let the nice men put that nice jacket on you, yellow water.
We're waiting for your proof
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:58pm.
Tick tock, troll boy.
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Because gaydar is always infallible, right Goldwater?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:45pm.
Now we just have to find out who really fathered Mrs. Bachmann's five children. Actually six, counting the miscarriage.
Or maybe the Bachmanns employed a surrogate like Elton. Because no true gay could get it up that many times with a <<blechhh>> woman.
Gee, yellowbelly has all the time in the world
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:38pm.
to go and dig up arcane studies, but has no interest in addressing the most basic question re: Mr. Bachmann's sexuality.
Color me unsurprised.
Just like ol' preezy
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:11pm.
It's funny because Bachmann is a gay man pretending to be straight.
Kinda like Bambi, huh?
Oooooo.... My "gaydar" pegs the meter whenever the oh-so-effeminate Clown-in-Chief sashays up to a podium or skips down the stairs of AF1.
Wow. It's pretty easy to lob accusations around when you don't need any real evidence. I like this!
I'll say this:
Submitted by misterbee241 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 12:49pm.
When God Almighty changes his mind about homosexuality, I 'll change mine.
Lets be honest here, truth be told
Submitted by bfrank on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:09pm.
homosexuality is the product of sexual abuse and not wayward genetics. All homosexuals I have met and talked to admitted their behavior was the result of sexual abuse by an adult or older peer during childhood, youth or adolescence. It is a hard truth the liberal media will never admit because it will invalidate their agenda. The psychiatric community will not admit it because most are homosexuals themselves.
How completely absurd. My
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:42pm.
How completely absurd. My brother is gay and was never sexually abused, so your delusional argument just went out the window.
"The psychiatric community will not admit it because most are homosexuals themselves."
Quote of the year. I think that needs to go in my Signature so I can have a good laugh whenever I see it. The conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories.
Skip the signature. Nobody cares.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:48pm.
Just write it backwards on your forehead with a Sharpie.
Goldwater knows how to verify*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 5:05pm.
So I thought to use his methods.
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Obama-riding-a-bike.jpg
http://cdn.ricochet.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/oba...
http://thatswhatsupnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/President-Pbama-Ki...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MceFVpJ-Gyc
Cajun
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 5:42pm.
That clinches it! Obama is gay!
Cajun, you made my night.
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:57pm.
Now to clean up the drink I sprayed on the floor.
yellowbelly89, I see you you
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:02pm.
yellowbelly89,
I see you you avoided answering the question of how you know Mr. Bachman is a homosexual. Typical of your radicalism and stupidity.
So, you like stereotyping individuals. Because someone moves or talks a certain way it means that they are? Are you seriously this stupid, or do you just play one?
He's stupid enough to think
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:17pm.
He's stupid enough to think that we don't recognize him by his previous usernames.
As a matter of psychiatric history,
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:20pm.
APA removed homosexuality from the list of Axis I paraphilias (sexual disorders) back in 1973, long before I started my residency. The decision is and has remained controversial.
The removal was prompted by many political issues at the time, not the least of which was pressure from the very liberal psychology community that has some limited voice in the construction of the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (DSM), the book that places diagnostic criteria on most forms of mental illness. To a lesser extent, non-psychology therapists (counselors, social workers, family/marriage therapists, etc.) also provided some pressure to make that change. APA, like all other organizations, is subject to its own biases and is not always in tune with the wishes of its membership.
Being a psychiatrist, I have not observed that the profession has any more gay practitioners on a percentage basis than other specialty areas of medicine. Equally, I have not observed a higher proportion of gay practitioners in behavior health professions than in the general population.
The decision to remove homosexuality stemmed largely from the inability of medical science to determine a physical etiology or pathology and therefore to find any viable treatment for it when it was considered a disease. Medical science is still very perplexed by sexuality because it is very complex as far as epidemiology is concerned. We can't tell medically why some things happen, but nonetheless they do and we treat accordingly. Homosexuality is one area where medical science threw in the towel and said there was no way to do anything from a treatment standpoint.
Old Chucklehead thinks it's funny to dish it out...
Submitted by Order270 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:10pm.
...but flip the script and he's the first one crying the blues and winning the running home to mommy award.
I wonder if Donnie....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 1:48pm.
would laugh at gay jokes if I told them to him?
The hypocrisy of individuals
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:00pm.
The hypocrisy of individuals like Don Lemon has no bounds. If this had been a joke about Michelle Obama said by Rush Limbaugh, Hannity or any other Conservative, Mr. Lemon would have been the first one out the door screaming, yelling and lecturing Conservatives about how we should not make the family of politicians targets.
The Left is shameless in their, "do as I say, not as I live".
sad.
They've given us the Green Light
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:54pm.
Marcus Bachman is no longer in the public eye in the same way he was when Michelle was a Presidential candidate. So Kimmel, Lemon and the Obamas, by their laughter, have given us the ok to make homosexual jokes about anyone remotely related to a public figure. And it's very ok to laugh uncontrollably at the people after telling the joke.
Missed the opportunity
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:02pm.
Cain should have just looked into the camera and said:
"well, according to these two, its ok to make fun of people if you suspect they are gay. Thanks, fags"
I think it was funny because
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:03pm.
I think it was funny because it's implying that Bachmann's sexual preference is opposite that which he claims as evidenced by certain mannerisms.
Balboa, So, you are ok with
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:34pm.
Balboa,
So, you are ok with spouses of Conservative politicians being attacked. Are you if the Right would go after Michelle Obama, Obama's daughters, etc in a similar manner?
1) This is stupid sophomoric humor only funny to the countless of immature Liberals in America.
2) If such a joke would have been made about the spouse of a Liberal politician, the Left would be having a collective heart attack.
3) And certain mannerism? You Liberals, how you LOVE to stereotype individuals, but oh goodness if you feel the Right stereotype.
1. Sophomoric humor is
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:22pm.
1. Sophomoric humor is calling me "yellowbelly."
2. There aren't any spouses of Liberal politicians who're as hypocritical as Mr. Bachmann.
3. You call Kagan and Napolitano lesbians without having any proof.
1. Sophomoric humor is
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:26pm.
1. Sophomoric humor is saying "gaydar" is valid.
2. I'm sorry, do you WANT a list a mile wide here?? Because if you're using "hypocritical" as a general definition, there's plenty.
3. Using the stereotypical "you", I'm sure. Might as well say "you people".
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:29pm.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18954191
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18810629
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21483863
Need more?
Of Democrats who are
Submitted by bretzysdude on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:31pm.
Of Democrats who are hypocritical, you moron. Can't you read?
goldwater89 LIES AGAIN right through his green teeth.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:03pm.
The studies concern students picking out pictures of OPENLY GAY MEN. Men that want to be identified as gay. Not supposed closeted men that want to hide their sexuality. HE LIED TO ALL OF YOU AGAIN.
AGAIN.
yellowbelly89, 1) No,
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:29pm.
yellowbelly89,
1) No, calling you a yellowbelly is a fact.
2) So, you are saying that if we deem the spouse of a politician who is not in the spot light a hypocrite, that person is fair game, Right or Left? Think long and hard before you answer this, yellowbelly89.
AND, how do you know that Mr. Bachman is a hypocrite? because you said so? because you NEED to believe it.
And if we are going to talk about hypocrites who are REAL and OUT homosexuals, why don't you talk about Dan Savage and his bullying of people he disagrees with? Oh wait, I forgot, it is ok, it is alright for radicals, Left wingers, Liberal wackos to bully people who disagree with them. Dan Savage, a man, if we can call him that, whose claim to fame is anti-bullying. The Left, the White House has embraced him. Yet, he bullies anyone who disagrees with him. I guess it is ok to be a hypocrite and a bully as long as you are pushing Liberal radicalism.
3) Date, time, forum, etc when I made such a claim. I know I have NEVER said this, thus you are a yellowbelly liar.
But nice of you to prove your hypocrisy. If you want to speak about hypocrites, let us start with the Edwards, then move on to the Kennedys, we can continue with the Obamas, make a quick stop with the Pelosis, let us not forget to visit the Reids, and of course don't forget to find Michael Moore's family in the restaurant and then we can continue to the countless of other spouses and children of politicians, from the Left, who are hypocrites.
You are an idiot, no other way to say it.
Lemon wasn't "born that way"
Submitted by OxyCon on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:25pm.
He was groomed and molested by a homosexual pervert who liked little boys. Unfortunately this is a perversion that is passed along from the homosexual rapist to the victim in many cases as the monsters who rape little boys are usually themselves past victims of childhood rape.
Yeah! I look forward to all
Submitted by tobiasdog on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 2:59pm.
Yeah! I look forward to all the Larry Sinclair and Obama in the limo jokes. I think I better not hold my breath!
So, according to CNN and their homo employees,
Submitted by johnsonl on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:11pm.
it's OK to bully straight conservatives and make fun of them.
Is turnabout fair play?
I bet Don (please queeze my) Lemmon wouldn't be laughing...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:30pm.
...had a coservative made these jokes about a gay liberal.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
You're completely missing the
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:41pm.
You're completely missing the point. No one's laughing at him because he's gay. They're laughing because he's a gay man parading around as a heterosexual who think's he can "cure" gay people.
Facts not in evidence, goldbrick
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:47pm.
You've yet to provide or source any material which proves your assertion that Bachmann is gay.
It's apparently all a figment of your demented imagination.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Wait a minute here...did I do a RipVanWinkle?
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 3:55pm.
I thought it was verboten to make fun of someone's real or perceived sexual orientation...
So...I can laugh and say that Don Lemon has taken more balls to the chin than Pete Rose? And that's okay with gays? If so, then I think we can all relax a bit, because if we can now make fun of them...I'll be much less repressed!
Retread Goldwater = Troll
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:39pm.
You all know what Not to do . . .
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Come on...
Submitted by CT on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:40pm.
A vulgar fag is not news.
Lovely
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 4:42pm.
Lovely
Hey...
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 6:54pm.
I thought it was OKAY to make fun of people because of their sexual orientation. I mean, if Don "pillow-biter" Lemon has a sense of humor, why is yours missing?
You, you....
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:51pm.
YOU MiG-15!!!
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
ROFL
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 8:59pm.
I think of him as more of a Yokosuka MXY-7, IMHO.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
LOL, Unsane. I got it.
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 9:01pm.
.
Good God...
Submitted by Kaleidoscopic God on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 5:19pm.
This gaydar89 troll is like a SLIGHTLY stupider, gay version of Jer.
➚ Forgive Don Lemon
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 7:32pm.
He suffers from Anal Receptive Disorder.
No wonder why they dont understand
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 04/30/2012 - 7:52pm.
Why the rest of us hate getting scReWed! When you consider getting screwed a "con"