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By Matt Hadro | April 13, 2012 | 13:09

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After CNN contributor John Fugelsang agreed with the "substance" of Hilary Rosen's remarks on Ann Romney, conservative columnist Will Cain laid into him for "Balkanizing" the country into classes and sects. The exchange happened during the 7 a.m. hour of Starting Point.

Rosen, a Democratic activist, had sparked an outcry for saying Ann Romney had never worked a day in her life, but CNN host Soledad O'Brien stepped in and claimed people were missing the "whole point of what she was saying." Fugelsang, a liberal comedian and CNN regular, agreed. [Video below the break. Audio here.]

"She was going after Governor Mitt Romney because he was the one who said he went to his wife as an economic consultant on women's economic issues," Fugelsang argued. "And in that sense, Hilary Rosen, was spot on saying that's not realistic."

He added that Romney's strategy was "disrespectful to the millions of non-millionaire stay at home moms who are struggling financially, whereas Ann Romney hasn't." TheBlaze.com's Will Cain then called him out for narrowing down the class of economic experts to "a very small group of people that you've pre-ordained."

"If you play this game and you want to 'Balkanize' the United States and you want to divide and pander on race," Cain ranted, "If you want to create these false wars, you are inevitably going to have internal firing,  because you just can't divide us that much."

The following is what Rosen said on Wednesday's Anderson Cooper 360:

"What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that's what I'm hearing.

"Guess what, his wife has actually never worked a day in her life. She's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we – why do we worry about their future?"

A transcript of the segment, which aired on April 13 on Starting Point at 7:46 a.m. EDT, is as follows:

SOLEDAD O'BRIEN: That sound you hear is the sound of the DNC backpedalling away from Hilary Rosen, really distancing themselves very aggressively.

ABBY HUNTSMAN: Well, and I think the RNC has made mugs now saying, like –

O'BRIEN: Yeah, they've been selling.

HUNTSMAN:  – stay at home moms are working too.

O'BRIEN: Which kind of misses the whole point of what she was saying. She was connecting an economic message to working moms, and as she said in her apology, which we should play. Let's play Hilary's apology from Situation Room last night.

(Video Clip)

ROSEN: I apologize. Working moms, stay at home moms, they're both extremely hard jobs. I know. I've shared them both and I'm sorry if that offended you.

(End Video Clip)

FUGELSANG: I flipped on Hilary Rosen. Yesterday –

O'BRIEN: Yes, you were mad.

FUGELSANG: I was very mad at her because what she said was completely stupid. But you know what, like most Americans, I only heard the one sound bite. Once I heard the entire context of what she said, I completely defend the substance of what – of her statements because she was not in any way attacking Ann Romney for being a stay at home mom or, in this case, a stay at five homes mom.

She was going after Governor Mitt Romney because he was the one who said he went to his wife as an economic consultant on women's economic issues. And in that sense, Hilary Rosen, was spot on saying that's not realistic. And it's disrespectful to the millions of non-millionaire stay at home moms who are struggling financially, whereas Ann Romney hasn't. It was not an attack on Ann Romney. It was a disgusting, stupid choice of words, but the substance of what she said is completely valid.

CAIN: So, it's interesting now that John is defending a point of view that basically narrows down the qualified people to speak on economic issues to a very small group of people that you've pre-ordained –  

FUGELSANG: No, that's not what I'm saying, Will.

O'BRIEN: Hold up, let him finish.

CAIN: If you play this game and you want to "Balkanize" the United States and you want to divide and pander on race, –

O'BRIEN: Balkanize? Did you say "Balkanize"?

CAIN: Yes, I'm not done. Race, gender, class, and age. The war on seniors, let's not forget the war on seniors. If you want to create these false wars, you are inevitably going to have internal firing,  because you just can't divide us that much.

FUGELSANG: I came out yesterday and said that the Democratic name of the war on women is completely stupid because it is. And it's going to backfire on them big time. And I'm not a Democrat, but I will say if they change the language to a "war on women's reproductive independence," they'd be a lot more honest.

O'BRIEN: I'd be interested in hearing from a women on the panel. Actually.

FUGELSANG: Please, Abby.

HUNTSMAN: I actually think this isn not going to be that big of an issue come election day. I don't think you will even remember this, come Election Day. I think we have real wars going on. We have $15 trillion in debt. We have a broken tax code. I think we need to get back to these issues. And I think I agree with you, Will. This is when it really divides our country at a time when we do not need to be divided.

CAIN: Absolutely.

HUNTSMAN: That being said, though, Soledad, we were talking a little bit about women at home, whether they choose to be or not. And I think it was a wrong choice of words, but there are a lot of women –

O'BRIEN: Which she apologized for. Everyone should move on at this point, and I would agree with you. Get to some of the real substance, which is what she and Bay Buchanan said last night on Anderson's show. Like got it, it was ill put, now let's move on and talk about real issues.

FUGELSANG: And the Catholic League's attacks on Ms. Rosen today for being a lesbian mom who adopted her kids are deliberately disgusting.
 

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Leftist Child Barren Women

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 1:16pm.

Shame on you for talking about moms, working or stay-at-home types alike. If a stay-at-home mom can't talk about women's economic issues because she doesn't have experience working outside the home, then you childless libitches have no right to talk about being a homemaker.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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Who do they think does the

Submitted by MrSnuggles on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 1:31pm.

Who do they think does the bills and balances the bank account? Who buys the diapers and makes the lunches? The obvious truth is that these woman haters have never lived the typical American life and don't have a clue what stay at home moms do.

It reminds me of my wifes lib best friend that just doesn't understand why my wife has no time to go drinking or too see a movie at the drop of a hat. They haven't spoken in months now, her friend ignores all attempts too communicate.

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trying to have it both ways...

Submitted by c5then on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 1:39pm.

The liberals want to be able to belittle conservative women for all sorts of things, but don't want anyone to be able to say a disparaging word about liberals. They also don't want liberals held to the same standards as they hold conservatives.

What Rosen said was directed squarely at the Romney's wealth and tried to belittle stay-at-home mothers as if working outside the home is somehow more important. It's actually less important. Ann Romney put her children first and was able to do that without any financial sacrifice. Not all women can do that, but that doesn't make it a worse choice or a lesser path to follow. Ask any woman who's kids are grown if they wished they had spent more time at the office instead of with their kids.

The liberal war on Americans is in full force by splitting them up into groups and classes and segments and then trying to pit each one against another. It disgusts me.

 

Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it! 

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"FUGELSANG: And the Catholic

Submitted by forest on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 1:55pm.

"FUGELSANG: And the Catholic League's attacks on Ms. Rosen today for being a lesbian mom who adopted her kids are deliberately disgusting."

Here we go with this bunk. I expect to see more of this even if they have to completely fabricate the "attacks".

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Soledad

Submitted by Jersey Girl on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 2:17pm.

No doubt Rosen is thrilled to learn that she needs Soledad to explain what she really really meant to say.

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Hillary may have had enough*

Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 2:58pm.

Just read elsewhere that Ms Rosen has cancelled several scheduled appearances on news shows. Liberal women rarely hang out in the kitchen anyway so why assume she can take the heat. And people like her dare to attack Sarah Palin on a regular basis for years. How does it feel Ms Rosen?

BTW Ms Rosen, its called "equality", you have to be able to take the same c**p you dish out.

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Rosen must be painted as a "victim" . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 3:18pm.

FUGELSANG: And the Catholic League's attacks on Ms. Rosen today for being a lesbian mom who adopted her kids are deliberately disgusting.

. . . in order for her to be rehabilitated in the MSM.  It begins with a statement like Fugelsang's.

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Rosen must be painted........

Submitted by Herbster on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 4:39pm.

The snarky oh-so-clever-with his-five-homes-comment Mr. Flugelhorn sounds like a liberal escapee from the gulag of NPR. What a dork. I am totally unnderwhelmed.

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Good Point!

Submitted by NC Boy on Sat, 04/14/2012 - 2:42am.

They would like to get the GOP to respond by indicating any concern at all about HER parenting situation.

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My God

Submitted by bmac32 on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 3:39pm.

Liberals have small minds, they can't except one of their own stepping out of line without coming to their defense.

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Anne Romney

Submitted by ferv888 on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 3:50pm.

Do you think that they had the 250MM at the beginnng of the marriage, no they were first married and had issues like everyone else.

What is about people who hate successfull people. I watch people everyday tearing someone down, so that they can look "better." NO, that will never work. Make the pie bigger and allow more to particpatae and they will have more.

ferv888

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Fugelsang bleats he is not a Democrat?

Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 04/13/2012 - 9:01pm.

Then what is he? A socialist? A communist? An anarchist? Oh Lord...throw all three into a blender with cracked ice, put on "frappe" for fifteen minutes and you have the average Democrat on CNN.

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a few things

Submitted by maxvolt on Sat, 04/14/2012 - 9:24am.

1. Democrats are anti woman: they are pro-government control over women. They want women to hand over their reproductive health to the Gov't via OBUMMER Care...that's a FACT.

2. Democrats are anti-women in that 50% of the babies they advocate be "allowed" to be MURDERED are in fact...FEMALE. Its hard to say you care about women when you are advocating and providing a Gov't funded program to kill them

3. Democrats are murderous thugs of children. They advocate killing babies as they pass through the birth canal, OBUMMER himself has voted for and supported this barbaric practice. That in itself is on the order of what the Germany's National Socialist Party of the 1940's (aka the NAZI's) brought the world via Dr. Mengela. Isnt it special that Democrats openly advocate Socialism today?

4. I am still amazed that how ONLY 70 years ago our parents and grandparents united to fight against the Socialists in Germany, and today we, as the children of those who gave their lives to defeat Socialism are advocating socialism as the way forward for America? Really? We are a very sick people, and specifically If you call yourself a democrat and vote democrat, you are voting for the same ideology that your own families fought and bled to defeat only 70 years ago...you disgust me! Traitors to your own country , God and family...pond scum of the lowest order.

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Comprehension issues

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 04/14/2012 - 1:46pm.

So how, exactly, does Ann indicating to Mitt that economic issues are important to women get translated to "Mitt's taking economic advice from Ann? The idiot liberals' defense of Rosen's remarks don't come close to what she actually said, and Rosen's remarks don't come close to what
Mitt actually said.

But noooo, libers ain't stupid or nothin'.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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Democrat fishing, splitting Working Women and At Home Women

Submitted by Less1leg on Sat, 04/14/2012 - 11:44pm.

Ms.Rosen was very explicit about what she was implying. Forget about rich women and poor women as in the video.
A couple who decides that they prefer to have one spouse stay home is far better off for their family than a couple who pawns off their kids all day to a Day Care Arrangement. ( all day kindergarten, all day day care, etc.)
Likewise, a woman who marries an executive isn't some too bit air head that sits around all day eating bonbons, and fixing her nails. I'm pretty sure Ann Romney had a pretty good understanding of her responsibilities of running the home where Mitt could spend his time forging ahead in business. Mr.Romney could then be just a Dad when his work hours ended and being a Dad to the kids, and husband to Ann. Something perhaps devoid in understanding in Hiliary Rosen's personal life.
But like most political polarization's the liberals are pushing lately. Splitting people seems to be the latest trend in the ultra liberal democrats. Splitting women into camps of traditional women, and liberated career interested women, ethnic issues Blacks versus all others. Polar conflicts is a sign to me that real issues that Obama's ultra liberals don't want to combat like economic or industrial or energy are lost to them. It's social engineering and pitting people against people where they can be seen as saviors. That's where the ultra liberal Democrats want to tie their political agenda to.

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