CNN: Some Republican Judges Are 'Deranged by Hatred' of Obama
CNN's senior legal analyst said on Thursday's Starting Point that "some of these Republican judges are just deranged by hatred of the President." Jeffrey Toobin was railing against the three-judge panel on the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court that had made the Justice Department write a three page memo about the Obama administration's take on judicial review.
Toobin called the act a "disgrace." However, though President Obama had said the Supreme Court overturning his health care law would be "unprecedented" and "judicial activism," Toobin defended his remarks as "entirely appropriate." [Video below the break. Audio here.]
In response to those remarks, one of the three Fifth Circuit Court judges expressed concern over Obama's remarks and the panel then made the Justice Department explain just what the administration had in mind about judicial review, through a single-spaced three page letter.
Actions like that, said Toobin, reveal a "hatred" of the President. "That was a perfectly appropriate comment by the President and it just shows how some of these Republican judges are just deranged by hatred of the President," he insisted.
The Blaze.com's Will Cain called Toobin out for his analysis of Obama's remarks. "I find the President's statement that was the predication for this, really I find that unprecedented as well. You find it completely normal," he told Toobin.
Cain said that presidents have clashed with the Court before, but after certain decisions had been ruled on, unlike Obama who made his comments before the Court has reached a verdict. "It's hard not to see that as some sort of influence, warning, intimidation," he insisted.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on April 5 at 7:16 a.m. EDT, is as follows:
[7:16]
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN: Obama administration scrambling to meet this deadline now. It comes from Republican-appointed federal judges. And those judges want answers in writing after the President made kind of a controversial remark about the Supreme Court's upcoming decision over his health care law. Here's what he said.
(Video Clip)
BARACK OBAMA, (D) President of the United States: I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected congress.
(End Video Clip)
O'BRIEN: So that was what the President said in a press conference. Some people say the president was warning the justices not to overturn the law. It didn't sit very well with the three-judge panel hearing a different challenge to the same law. And here's what one of those judges, his name is Jerry Smith, said in court.
(Video Clip)
JERRY SMITH, judge, U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals: He was referring, of course, to ObamaCare to what he termed 'a broad consensus of majorities in both houses of Congress.' That has troubled a number of people who have read it as somehow a challenge to the federal courts or to their authority, or to the appropriateness of the concept of judicial review. And that's not a small matter.
(End Video Clip)
O'BRIEN: Hence, Jeff Toobin, CNN legal analyst. I said that you call this a pissing match, but I got that wrong. You called this a hissy fit.
TOOBIN: A hissy fit. I think what these judges have done is a disgrace. What President Obama said was entirely appropriate. There is nothing wrong, there's nothing controversial. He said I signed a law that was passed by the democratically-elected Congress and I think it's constitutional.
And then these judges give the Justice Department a homework assignment, a three-page letter, single-spaced, explaining what the President said. They don't have to explain what the President said. That was a perfectly appropriate comment by the President and it just shows how some of these Republican judges are just deranged by hatred of the President.
O'BRIEN: But isn't the role of the Supreme Court to overturn stuff that's unconstitutional?
TOOBIN: If they find it.
O'BRIEN: Right.
TOOBIN: And there's nothing that Obama said that was contrary to that. The President has no leverage over the Supreme Court. He can't threaten – what's he going to threaten to do? If you rule this way, I won't – if you rule this way, I'm not going to invite you to a state dinner. I mean, that's about his only leverage.
(Crosstalk)
CAIN: This is where I must step in, and I totally agree with you, Jeff. This is a very odd requirement.
O'BRIEN: Hissy fit.
WILL CAIN, CNN contributor: Three-page letter, single spaced, explaining the President's views on judicial review. That being said, I find the President's statement that was the predication for this, really I find that unprecedented as well. You find it completely normal. But while judicial review has been a 250-year-old concept that the country has lived by, presidents have at times had problems with it. Jefferson. FDR had a court-packing incident. But those all happened after court decisions. ObamaCare tries this extraordinary and unprecedented before the Supreme Court made their decision. It's hard not to see that as some sort of influence, warning, intimidation.
TOOBIN: To do what?
CAIN: To rule in his favor.
JOHN FUGELSANG, comedian: What's he going to do if they don't?
TOOBIN: His administration wrote a brief asking them to rule in his favor. So it's not exactly a secret.
O'BRIEN: Everyone knows they want the justices to rule in theirs favor.
(Crosstalk)
FUGELSANG: – what side the President's on here.
CAIN: He continues to call it unprecedented, extraordinary exercise of judicial power, from an unelected group of members. He's putting a lot of language in here, Jeff, that suggests it would be totally off-base for the Supreme Court to apply judicial review to his favorite law.
TOOBIN: And that's what his Justice Department said to the justices last week. I mean, there is no secret about the Obama administration's position on this issue. I don't see why the President saying it, the Attorney General saying it, the Solicitor General saying it –
CAIN: Because it calls into question the legitimacy of their decision, not his disagreement but the legitimacy to make the decision.
TOOBIN: He didn't say anything about their legitimacy. He said my interpretation of the law is the following. He's an American citizen. He has the right to express his opinion.
O'BRIEN: Okay, so let's talk bigger picture. So bigger picture. How is what is really a political statement at a press conference becoming sort of a judicial statement, right? Shouldn't the two of them really –
TOOBIN: Well, I think what I have devoted my career to attempting to prove is that the line between law and politics is essentially nonexistent. When you have cases like this, when you have cases like abortion, affirmative action, these are essentially political decisions being made by individuals who wear black robes, but they are, in essence, political decisions. And I think the more we recognize that and the more we eliminate this artificial line, this sort of idealistic but really meaningless line between law and politics, the better, because I think that's the way the world works.
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This guy is a Tool. If you
Submitted by inquiringmind on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 3:43pm.
This guy is a Tool. If you don't have a teenage son or daughter in your house you may have to look it up.
Toobin
Submitted by rockyracoon on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 3:58pm.
Is a disgrace.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
To be a "Toobin" is to be an idiot
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:00pm.
Remember, this is the same Toobin who in a 24-48 hour period went from "There's no way Obamacare will be overturned" to "This law is in big, big trouble." He puts the a-n-a-l in "analysis."
TOOBIN: A hissy fit. I think what these judges have done is a disgrace. What President Obama said was entirely appropriate. There is nothing wrong, there's nothing controversial. He said I signed a law that was passed by the democratically-elected Congress and I think it's constitutional.
Uh . . . no. That's not what Obama said.
He said it would be (a) unprecedented for (b) unelected judges to (c) overturn a law (d) "strongly" passed by democratically-elected Congress.
That Obama could string these all together is a single accusation is not only idiotic, but anti-American.
Even his mentor -- Lawrence Tribe at Harvard Law School -- said it was false
Once again, Toobin doesn't even understand the question, so it's no wonder he doesn't like the answer.
Teachable Moment
Submitted by tcm14 on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 3:56pm.
This has been a teachable moment for Obama and Holder. They even submitted a 3-page paper telling what they learned. This is good for them.
He's the whole Jeffrey
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:02pm.
He's the whole Jeffrey Toolbox!
Enough of His Unconstitutional BS!
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:02pm.
I demand Obama release his Harvard Law School transcripts and a copy of his diploma to prove he has a law degree.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
So humorous
Submitted by ChrisNH on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:04pm.
It's so humorous to see all the violent Bush-haters somehow take great offense when the fire-hose gets ripped out of their hands and is instead pointed right at them and Their Beloved.
After eight years of doing that, they can't even stomach three years of the same thing in reverse.
Judge
Submitted by Cyclopps on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:07pm.
If it was not true before or even if it was only partially true before, it is true now. Now that he has insulted them and their work and judgement.
This coming from a guy who never ever served as a judge anywhere but thinks he has the intellect to supersede anything they come up with.
I hope the ripples from this last all through the year.
And insofar as being "deranged by hatred" (Toobin), I think this is a Freudian angle coming from his own mind, he has this "hatred".
I don't ever hear from these same idiots when the 9th circuit (64% democratic appointee's) give an opinion.
Imagine anyone disagreeing with the messiah!!!!!!!!
Submitted by ohio granny on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:13pm.
Anyone who disagrees with the messiah must be a heretic. Obama's fawning, adoring media whores and pimps simply cannot understand anyone who disagrees with Obama.
I would just like to know who made Obama God?? Maybe they should start a Church of Obama. That way they could just worship at the feet of their God every week. They could get their Obama fix and the rest of us who definitely do not worship at the Church of Obama could be left alone !!!!!!!!!!
"He's an American citizen."
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:20pm.
How disingenuous, not to mention debatable. And just think - Toobin is CNN's "senior legal analyst".
Yep
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:01pm.
A good reason to disregard CNN's commentary.
Truth Be Known
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:37pm.
Actually, it's Obama that hates the constitutionalists on the court. When in fact, the Leftists are once again projecting their own inner evil onto others.
It is the highest constitutional duty of the judicial system to ensure that unconstitutional laws are not permitted to stand. Justices who honor their oath have no choice.
I, for one, would like to see every bill passed by the congress be reviewed by the Supreme Court before it becomes law. Why should harm be allowed, or required, to be done by an unconstitutional law before it is struck down? This is the very epitome of 'cart before the horse'.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
It's very funny that the left
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 4:47pm.
It's very funny that the left and right have switched place in regard to "activist judges." Before it was the right decrying them, now it's the left.
bal
Submitted by texasborngranny on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:11pm.
This is not judicial activism.
As Alexander Hamilton explained, in the famous defense of the Constitution set forth in the Federalist Papers in 1788, this is fidelity to the Constitution itself.
That's where you are wrong, balboa
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:20pm.
A court is not activist because it overturns a law as un-Constitutional. Since Marbury v. Madison, that's been a key function of the Supreme Court's role in checks & balances.
A court is activist when it expands the interpretation of Constitutional language to rationalize a law as Constitutional.
The so-named Commerce Clause has been a major tool of activist courts, where the courts have tied non-interstate commercial activities to interstate commerce in order to uphold a law.
Upholding the individual mandate in the Affordable Care Act would take just such an activist court, by extending the Commerce Clause to cover citizens not engaged in the specific commerce -- in this case, purchasing a commercial health plan/insurance policy that meets Federal specifications, or pay a penalty. In other words, a citizen can be penalized for merely being alive. If this act is upheld and sets precedent, there isn't anything the Federal can't force a citizen to do.
I'm not saying it is --
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:40pm.
I'm not saying it is -- because honestly I haven't kept up with this -- I'm saying that pundits / politicians / spokespeople on the right and left have been claiming the court is overstepping their boundaries or citing M v. M whenever it has suited their own agendas.
That's called "politics", bal, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 6:05pm.
something that the libs are now wailing shouldn't be inside a courtroom.
Unless, of course, a liberal judge is presiding.
MD
I'm not going to repeat my previous post, bal
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 04/06/2012 - 9:49am.
You are blurring the claims of both right and left, when there is clearly a distinction.
This President, who once taught a class in Constitutional law, is blatantly trying to delegitimize the decision of this Court before they've even made it.
His parrots have not only supported this tactic, they have stated that to overturn this law would be the act of an "activist" court, which is clearly is not, as I explained.
The Warren Court was an activitst court; it distorted the intention of the Commerce Clause, setting a precedent that has ultimately led to this Constitutional battle.
To protect an individual's right not to be penalized for declining to participate in commerce isn't the act of activist court; it is protection of individuals from its own Federal government, which the Founding Fathers intended when they passed the first ten amendments of the Constitution.
From what I understand is the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 7:43pm.
From what I understand is the interstate commerce clause was meant to be very simple as a compact for commerce between the states. How did it become the behemoth congress made it be? It was to make sure that commerce was not impeded and fair between states. The founders would rail at such activities.
The greatest Commerce Clause activists were on . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 04/06/2012 - 10:43am.
. . . the Warren Court, which stretched the Clause in order to desegregate the Deep South.
While we might celebrated the end result in this activism, it set a precedent which has haunted us for 60 years.
For example, if I own a farmers' market where all the produce is from my state, and all the customers are from my stated, but the plastic bags I use are made in Ohio, or the gasoline that fueled the tractors that harvested the produce was refined in New Jersey, I am engaged in interstate commerce and therefore can be regulated by the Federal government.
And here we are today faced with the ultimate Commerce Clause challenge: Can the Commerce Clause legitimize a law that punishes citizens for declining to participate in the commerce?
If the answer is Yes, maybe we should call this the "Non-Commerce Clause."
Far from the White House's argument that this is no different than taxing for Social Security or Medicare, this is not a tax -- Obama insisted it wasn't a tax when he signed the bill into law. Had they made it a tax, they might have gotten away with it. They are resorting to yet another stretching of the Commerce Clause.
If permitted to stand, it would establish a precedent under which a citizen could be penalized for not buying anything the Federal government deems necessary.
They could require you to by a GM car, or pay a penalty.
They could require you to buy a home built by unionized labor, or pay a penalty.
Sound ridiculous? I might have thought so ten years ago.
But this Court upheld Kelo v. New London, in which the city of New London, CT seized private property under its eminent domain authority to give it to a private corporation. In other words, you have a right to own property so long as the government doesn't want to give it to another private citizen or enterprise. That ruling, by the way, stemmed from a 5-4 decision in which Kennedy (the justice they're hoping to uphold Obamacare) sided with the four liberal justices. That's an example of an activist court.
It's not a major leap of imagination from there to Obamacare and from Obamacare to mandated purchases of anything.
Stupid post number 96
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:15pm.
Stupid post number 96 from Bal's "A Stupid Post For Every Day" calendar.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Where's the proof?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:06pm.
He should have to back up these statements or be pulled. But then pigs would take to the air.
I love it. Niki Haley called Obama a bully.
Jeffrey Toobin has zero integrity or credibility.
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:08pm.
Lest we all forget, Jeffy is the same person who cheated on his wife and admitted to fathering a love child with another married attorney (Casey Greenfield) per the story at http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-02-18/gossip/27056518_1_cnn-lawyers... - wonder if he ever paid a dime in child support?
Liberal degenerates like Jeffy are a dime a dozen.
O'Brien
Submitted by trainman55 on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 5:09pm.
She should really dress more appropriately if she is intent on digging that intellectual hole that she keeps making deeper!
The old saying really applies to her "opinions". "'tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open her mouth, thereby removing all doubt"!
And yet...
Submitted by packman on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 6:24pm.
some of us of the NewsBusters ilk may be slightly deranged by hatred of...CNN...??..Jeffrey Toobin...??? I laugh until I cry, ergo I must be reading the news!
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Huh?
Submitted by Restless Legs on Thu, 04/05/2012 - 7:19pm.
When did this guy ever call out liberal judges for their hatred of anyone and anything "conservative?"