CNN Commentator Decries 'War on Comedy,' Defends Bill Maher's 'Unfettered Right' to Crude Insults
CNN commentator Dean Obeidallah has some advice for politicians who are offended by gross and vile insults from comedians: "change the channel."
Comedians like Bill Maher and Louis C.K. must have an "unfettered right" to spew their vitriol at politicians like Sarah Palin, insisted Obeidallah in a CNN.com op-ed. Such insults "come with the territory" of running for office, he told CNN host Brooke Baldwin on Thursday afternoon's Newsroom. [Video below the break.]
Obeidallah believes there is a "war on comedy" stemming from outrage over crude and vile insults made by comedians like Bill Maher and Louis C.K. Concerned for the safety of America's "proud tradition" of political satire, Obeidallah pleaded on CNN that "political comedy must be protected like political speech. It's that important."
However, in his column he trashed conservative Rush Limbaugh for attacking law student Sandra Fluke. So there should be a double-standard for entertainers who attack women politicians and those who attack regular women?
"Political comedians must be afforded the unfettered right to satirize our politicians – even if their jokes include crude words such as the ones that Maher and C.K. used about Sarah Palin," wrote Obeidallah in his column titled "Stop the War on Comedy."
"When you're attacking a public figure, someone in politics, someone like Sarah Palin who would run to be a heartbeat away from the leader of the free world, you know what? It comes with the territory," he stated on CNN Newsroom Thursday.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on March 22 on Newsroom at 2:43 p.m. EDT, is as follows:
BROOKE BALDWIN: Some conservatives think Robert DeNiro should just stick to the drama after a joke he told at an Obama campaign fundraiser attended by the First Lady. Here's what he said, (Unintelligible), quote, "Callista Gingrich. Karen Santorum. Ann Romney. Now do you really think our country is ready for a white First Lady?"
Supposedly, the joke went over pretty well in the room, but others weren't laughing so much when they found out about it. The Obama campaign called DeNiro's comments, and I'm quoting, "inappropriate," and the actor issued this statement, quote:
"My remarks, although spoken with satirical jest, were not meant to offend or embarrass anyone – especially the First Lady."
But that's not good enough for Newt Gingrich.
(Video Clip)
NEWT GINGRICH, Republican presidential candidate: What DeNiro said last night was inexcusable, and the President should apologize for him. It was at an Obama fundraiser. It is exactly wrong, it divides the country –
(End Video Clip)
BALDWIN: And here is Robert DeNiro's response.
(Video Clip)
ROBERT DENIRO, playing Travis Bickle in "Taxi Driver": You talking to me? You talking to me?
(End Video Clip)
BALDWIN: Te-hee. Sorry. That was actually a clip from "Taxi Driver." Anyway, look, it doesn't seem like the Romneys are taking offense here. Here's what Ann Romney told Piers Morgan.
(Video Clip)
ANN ROMNEY: I laughed. You know what? I took it for what it was, a joke. And you know, again, we take everything so seriously. We have to be so correct, and everyone's got to apologize. And I can say you know what? I can laugh at it. That's just – let's take it for what it is. We're all overreacting to so many things and making things so difficult, which means we have to watch every single word that comes out of our mouth.
(End Video Clip)
BALDWIN: So guess who agrees with Ann Romney? Who's laughing about it as well? Bill Maher, of all people. He's got this op-ed in today's New York Times. The title is "Please Stop Apologizing." Let me just read you part of it. He says, quote, let's have an amnesty – from the left and the right – on every made-up, fake, totally insincere, playacted hurt, insult, slight, and affront. If you see or hear something you don't like in the media, just go on with your life."
I want to bring in another political comedian Dean Obeidallah. And Dean, I'm assuming you're agreeing with Mr. Maher here. Yes?
DEAN OBEIDALLAH: I agree with him in principle, I mean there is this war on comedy going on and I think that's a war we have to get out of much sooner than years and years later. It's not helpful, and especially when it comes to political comedy, and political figures, you know what? We have a great tradition in America of using comedy to raise issues, to challenge the status quo, challenge people in power, and I'm afraid that this kind of war on comedy is going to stifle that. So overall I agree with Bill there are – I have a different opinion, though, on some of the subtleties what Bill said in his article today.
BALDWIN: Well I'm going to ask you about if you've had to issue a mea culpa in the past. But let me just flip the script and just say look, what if the roles were reversed? Would the media go after an actor who joked about a black First Lady?
OBEIDALLAH: I think they probably would, to be honest with you. And it really depends on the tone and how they said it. But I think, and I'm going to be honest, Brooke, I think most Americans know the difference between someone being playful and someone being demonizing and hateful. And playful should be protected, we know that. So I think there could be something with the black – it was a joke about a black First Lady, and it was mocking her. Rush Limbaugh has made fun of the First Lady, others have. There have been some pushback against that. But you know what? The joke was funny. He didn't mean anything. He was flipping the whole thing from four years ago, is America ready for a black president? It was just funny. I mean –
BALDWIN: And that's all it was. That's all it was, you say.
OBEIDALLAH: It was funny. And we know the difference is not hateful. I mean, come on, let's be honest, was he being hateful? Newt Gingrich? A man desperate to get in the media, as his campaign is falling apart, his own party's rejecting him. He's coming to the rest of us, like – no, this is why his own party's rejecting him. He's out of step. He's just wrong on this. Newt Gingrich is completely wrong on this issue.
BALDWIN: But let me bring this back to Bill Maher, because you have this two page op-ed, it's a great read whether you agree with him or not. But isn't it a little bit self-serving – certainly of all people Bill Maher's being called on to apologize for many, many things. Many, many offensive things, need I remind you what he said about Sarah Palin, which I will not repeat. You know?
OBEIDALLAH: Right. Absolutely. And I wrote an op-ed for CNN called "Stop the War on Terror" just earlier this week defending Bill Maher's right to say that. When you're attacking a public figure, someone in politics, someone like Sarah Palin who would run to be a heartbeat away from the leader of the free world, you know what? It comes with the territory. We have to have that freedom to mock our elected officials even with words I might not use or we don't like. That's life. Turn the channel, just like Bill Maher says. But when you're demonizing private citizens or making homophobic, racist remarks? Then you have to answer for that. That's life.
(...)
OBEIDALLAH: Political comedy must be protected like political speech. It's that important.
(...)
OBEIDALLAH: There's gotta – sometimes, you've got to allow some insulting things, things you might not like to hear, for the good of freedom of expression. That's what we need to protect in America.
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A war on comedy?
Submitted by Herbster on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 6:49pm.
It would be a very short war since comedy is in very short supply today.
I have t assume if this gentleman's wife, mother, sister, aunt, sister in law, mother in law ran for public office and a "Comedian" called them the names that the Maher creature used in describing Sarah Palin, he would defend the comedians right to describe them as such? If any of the above named ladies objected to being described by the "C" word, or "T" word, would Mr. Obeidallah calmly explain to them that "It comes with the territory," "That's life," et
Let's all call ourselves "Comedians" and use these terms in reference to Hillary, Michelle, Nancy, any of the empty skirts on CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. It would be interesting to see how this lightweight tool that no one has ever heard of would respond.
For it to be comedy, it has to be funny, Dean.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:28pm.
And you can't seriously contend that either Bill or Louis is trying to be funny with their guttural attacks.
"Hey, did you hear about ol' Dean? Man, he's a rabid pedophile! Ha, ha! And he loves him some murder, yes he does! Eats his victims--calls his creations Dahmer-burgers! So, you know, since Dean's a cannibalistic murdering pedophile, you shouldn't pay attention to him!"
Nothing about that was funny. Nothing about that is comedy. Were I honestly trying to entertain people, that would fail miserably.
Just like Bill and Louis do when trying to hide their hatred behind "comedy."
--Mike
And as Rush Limabugh always
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:02pm.
And as Rush Limabugh always says, for something to be funny, there has to be a kernel of truth to it.
You have hit the nail on the head. The liberal version of "comedy" is to spew vile hate, and then when people gasp, yell "It's a JOKE!!"
Comedy is hard.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:20pm.
And, by and large, these fellows have stopped putting effort into what they do in favor of putting hatred into what they do.
Much easier for them, apparently.
--Mike
It's a war on hiding ehind comedy
Submitted by theduck6 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 10:00am.
Maher, Stewart,(insert foul mouthed left wing personality here)all want to be taken seriously as a news source and, sadly, often are but let them go too far and it's " hey maaaan, lighten up. It's just cooooomedy man." I doubt this is a coincidence.
We all know what he means.
Submitted by NeoKong on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 6:54pm.
The "War on Women" thing was meant as a weapon to hurt Republicans and as a bonus to take down Rush Limbaugh.
Now that it is backfiring this guy wants it to stop and can't we all just move on...?
Let's get back to what is important.
Attacking Republicans.
They aren't saying to move on
Submitted by pockets64 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:06pm.
They want to move along, nothing's happening here when we talk about the leftie talkers. They still want Rush's head and are trying to use the same axe they are telling us to drop.
Are Michelle Malkin and Laura Ingraham running for office?
Submitted by frank14 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:11pm.
Sarah Palin was a private citizen who was not running for any office this last year but that didn't stop the misogynists. This coward loved it when the libs were trashing conservative women, but now he runs to defend fellow misogynist creeps like Bill Maher and David Letterlib.BOYCOTT TIME WARNER!
A real journalist would've asked that question.
Submitted by Ms. Independent on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:57pm.
And they would have followed up by asking what offices Bristol Palin and her sister, Willow, were running for. I'd also like to know when Elisabeth Hasselback became a politician.
BS Excuse
Submitted by pockets64 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:08pm.
Their BS excuse is that since Sarah is a political commentator she is fair game.
I guess political activists are off-limits.
No, wrong
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:55pm.
Their excuse is that she's a c*** and they're just speaking trooth to powder. What? Do you want to interfere with their constitutional right to use a liberal amount of vulgarity?
Alrighty then!
Submitted by bobsmom on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:27pm.
Lots of my friends think I'm quite funny, so I guess I can honestly say that Joe Biden is a pale pink hairless set of what used to be a eunuch's cojone's, and that if he continues to have face lifts, his eyes are soon going to resemble that of the Geico gekko! Ain't that a hoot?! And his wife is an opportunistic twit! Wait...there's someone at my front door.........whaddya mean you're the Secret Service?! It was a joke!! I'm a comedian, my speech is important and should be protected!!! I have rights!! See? This is the violence inherent in the system!! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
Shut up you bloody peasant!
Submitted by theArmourer on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:09pm.
Shut up you bloody peasant! You think that's funny?
Yup it is. XD
Thanks
Submitted by bobsmom on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:44pm.
you get it : Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
I call myself waterytart on another site, maybe I'll see you there since I seem to have offended the sensibilties of some here.
bobsmom
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:45pm.
please read my pm and public apology on the other thread!
I am
Submitted by bobsmom on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:04pm.
a techotard, sorry I just work my A$$ of 50+ hours a week taking care of everyone else's family members. Get a laugh here, I have no idea what a "pm" is, sorry. I'm just a human trying to make a difference in this world. I deal with people, and pain............sorry don't feel the need to continue to justify myslef with people I thought I could relate with.
sorry bobsmom*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:08pm.
The worst technotard is here to help. See that little box on the right side? The one that says...Bobsmom is logged in..... go down the menu and click on ....my inbox....
If that didnt help, then there are other NBers who will volunteer to help....
ISN'T THAT RIGHT GUYS?
bobsmom - I am no help in the tech world of computers ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:13pm.
but I certainly relate to your posts.
Dey be gud stufff. :o)
MD
Cajun
Submitted by 26CX on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:20pm.
I tried to follow your instructions to see PMs, but when I went to the little box you talked about I didn't see anything that says "Bobsmom is logged in". All I see is one that says "26CX is logged in".
Am I doing something wrong?
LOL CX*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:24pm.
LOL ,,, now THAT was funny.
bobsmom
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:12pm.
I wasn't making fun of you, I included myself in there (the matching socks comment) and gave a little smiley ;-) to show I was joking.
Sorry that wasn't clear, I enjoy your posts, and didn't mean to insult you. Ok?
⇒ bobsmom
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:25pm.
One more facelift and Biden will have a trunk.
I'm a bit of a smart a&&
Submitted by theduck6 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 10:02am.
The only time Biden takes his foot out of his mouth is to switch feet.
Dean
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:46pm.
Let's stop mincing words here. Since Michelle Obama has the same status politically as Sarah Palin does right now, you're ok calling her a c**t and a t**t.
And you're ok making jokes about Obama's underage daughter being "knocked up" by a pro baseball player during the 7th inning stretch.
Cool. I just wanted to know the rules you've set.
So
Submitted by HockeyKid on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 8:47am.
if someone mentioned seeing Jose Canseco in Oaxaca recently, and Obysmal's daughter taking a sudden interest in baseball bats, that would be funny, right?
Just askin'...
(Man, I don't know how Maher does it. Much as I dislike Obysmal, just writing the above example makes me queasy. Maher must be completely conscience-unencumbered.)
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Oh, puh-leeze
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:46pm.
"War on comedy"? Really? Is he defending f***ing comedy? Comedy about c***s and t***s? Hanks and the blackface skit? Oh really?
BTW, what kind of name is Dean Obeyed Allah?
this column
Submitted by ron on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 7:58pm.
is comedy
Oh crap,
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:02pm.
I alway thought it had to be funny to be considered comedy.
These are all rank hacks, nothing more. Fact is, if they were funny they would be embraced like Bill Cosby, Bob Hope, George Carlin, Red Skelton, Eddie Murphy, Laurel&Hardy, Richard Pryer and tons of others.
Anyone ever going to smile when they think of Maher 10yrs from now.
Not unless something horrible happens to em!
Now that funny!
Why not have a War on Time Warner Idiots?
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:10pm.
So liberals think conservatives are waging "War on Comedy"? Let's have a War on Time Warner Idiots instead...Let's never watch CNN or HBO again!
Better yet . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 12:43pm.
. . . let's declare that the MSM is conductin a WAR ON AMERICANS. Everytime they report on something critical of us, we ask "Why are you warring on Americans?"
For people who supposedly understand and support satire...
Submitted by OxyCon on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:39pm.
For people who supposedly understand and support satire...Liberals sure are dense when it comes to calling a girl who spends $3,000.00 a year on birth control, a loose woman.
Let me explain the joke to these outrageously outraged Liberals...if condoms cost one dollar a piece, that means Sandra Fluke has sex 3,000 times a year, which means she has sex over 8 times a day, every day for one year.
So Fluke
Submitted by gfrrman on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 12:03am.
IS a WHORE AND a SLUT!! Rush was right!!
g
Once again the left starts a
Submitted by tobiasdog on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:48pm.
Once again the left starts a battle- the right attacks back, the left starts losing the battle and the left tries to make it look like the right started it. And the sheeple nod their heads in agreement and ignore the well organized attack on free speech that the left is shamelessly waging.
"Comedian Rush Limbaugh"
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:52pm.
That's what Keith Olbermann always called him.
So I'm assuming Obeidallah doesn't have a problem with his calling Fluke a slut?
I'm already
Submitted by nolefan2 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:06pm.
changing channels, along with countless other people. That must explain why CNN is laying off employees right now. I love it when the hypocrisy of the left comes shining through.If they can't stand the heat they should get out of the kitchen. They started all this trash talk when Sarah Palin was running for office. It was considered great fun then, but they get their panties in a twist when the shoe is on the other foot.
⇒ bobsmom
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:24pm.
Wha happun?
Again with the false distinction that Maher..
Submitted by greggy on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:37pm.
is strictly a "comedian", and not a commentator. Sorry, but when you've hosted two consecutive political talk shows over a period of twenty years, when those programs featured political commentary by politicians and columnists and authors and commentators - when you've appeared as a panelist and commentator on This Week, Fareed Zakaria, Piers Morgan, and others..when you've given a million dollars to the Obama campaign, when you go down to support the Occu-poopers..you have forfeited any right to claim that you're "just a comedian".
And I'm sick of these craven liars like Dean Obeidallah, pretending that Maher is just a comedian. He crossed that line MANY years ago, and continuing to claim he's "just a comedian" is brazen, shameless dishonesty.
Better give California the
Submitted by Slyrr on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:51pm.
Better give California the memo, Deany-boy.
They just passed a resolution in one of their towns to ban radio shows for 'sexist/racist' remarks. Yet they live in Hollywood, in jogging distance of TV studios, movie studios, magazine makers, and porn industry czars that use the most racist and sexist language in existance - in the name of 'entertainment'.
I guess CNN likes sexism and racism and they must now ban themselves, no?
why is it that the crude names are OK for comedians
Submitted by TheHistorian on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 9:57pm.
But are not OK for entertainers? Seems to me to be a pretty arbitrary line. Especially when some of the comedians are political hacks rather than comedians.
My suggestion is to let the language flow. Let a commentator call the President a name. Let another one call a national security adviser an "Aunt Jemima". Let's not bar the n* word, nor any other denigrating name. Let it all spew forth.
Shows you what a lieberal will do to try to justify his side's bad behavior. They are OWS with a little more money (and maybe a little less brains).
Dennis Prager
No endpoint
Submitted by CJohnson on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:15pm.
Now the left wants to own what is funny and the right to laugh. They just don't see the tirony.
Where was Dean Obeidallah
Submitted by Onepersonsopinion on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:20pm.
Where was Dean Obeidallah when Dr. Laura Schlessinger, a radio host, was fired after saying the N word several times? Shouldn't the people who got her fired simply have "change the channel". I guess the response would be she she isn't a comedian. But then how about Michael Richards, who is a comedian, and was attacked for an N word tirade?
I wonder...
Submitted by MidAmerica on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 10:52pm.
Does maher feel cozy safe now that all these wagons are circled around him?
Isn't it amazing what a million bucks can get you?
Palin
Submitted by angelann1 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 11:22pm.
What if Palin was a liberal,wacko dem?
Well, I Guess
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 11:43pm.
If the humor challenged Left thinks it's funny to call conservative women cunts, twats and sluts, then Bill Maher is their guy all right. But beware, Bill Maher is your brain on drugs. You are what you smoke. A dope.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Admins
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 11:47pm.
Clean up on aisle Matt Hadro please!!
Let's be clear...
Submitted by Order270 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 12:52am.
...comedy left Maher a long time ago. Spewing insults and name calling is not comedy. So women's groups defending him now officially have exposed their Liberal Front that hides behind the facade of Women's Rights.
war on comedy
Submitted by m1xram on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 2:37am.
That doesn't sound very funny, or even true. Shouldn't we be worried about the War on Journalism? Rather than news from the MSM we get propaganda, lies of omission, and or outright lies. That's not funny either but Dean Obeidallah won't stop his assault on the truth.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
When it comes to humor, there
Submitted by eaglescout1998 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 3:21am.
When it comes to humor, there is a simple rule I live by: Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
If a comedian makes a crude joke about Michelle Obama, would that be considered as much a crime around the conservative blogosphere as making a similar joke about Michelle Bachman?
Nah, that'd be considered ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 3:40am.
leveling the playing field.
MD
We already know the answer
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 7:54am.
But I'd like to see a known comedian, RIGHT NOW while the iron is still hot, spew some of the same heinous filth at all the liberal female mouthpieces (Moochelle, Pelosi, Boxer, Wasserman-Shultz, et al) and see the reaction from the so-outraged-over-Rush lefties. Whoever did it would end his/her career, but the left could no longer hide behind their selective outrage and protection of scumbags like Maher. They would have no choice, based on their moronic beliefs, but to catch on fire and rabidly condemn this "comedy" attack on their beloved icons of the female persuasion. THEN we would have all the ammo needed to nationally and irrefutably call them out on their hypocrisy.
I don't watch it anymore,
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 7:47am.
but Saturday Night Live has become a wellspring for political comedy, yet do not, to my knowledge, use derisive terms to describe their targets. And yes, I change the channel. The same applies to you and your moronic hypocrites Obeidallah (anyone notice the similarities between his name and Da One's?). If you don't like what Rush is saying, CHANGE THE CHANNEL! Not that any of you have ever actually listened to him. You just get your hacks to cherry pick his comments looking for something like this you can use to attack him.
What you need to do is get your panties out of a bunch, pick up the hankies you've been stomping on, suck it up, and STFU! If you're going to attack anyone for speech such as this, you attack EVERYONE. Rush screwed up, plain and simple. It was a heat-of-the-moment brain fart. Maher and his ilk premeditatedly and consciously use heinous and hurtful words to describe those who don't agree with them. They cannot hide behind their so-called comedy. Wikipedia described this piece of human excrement as a "stand-up comedian, television host, political commentator, author, and actor. Before his current role as the host of HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, Maher hosted a similar late-night talk show called Politically Incorrect originally on Comedy Central and later on ABC."
His supposed comedy is limited to stand-up. But he spews his venom on his LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW. It is NOT a comedy show. And as he is known as a political commentator (same as RUSH BTW), then using your "logic", he is as culpable as Rush to attacks for his derogatory comments. All or none Obeidallah. You don't get to selectively pick and choose your outrage anymore.
Proverbs 26:18-19
Submitted by VanPastorMan on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 10:26am.
18Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrow 19 is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" I conclude that the Bible is against Bill Maher and any other lefty comedien who stands behind their status.
Who was it that said...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 10:51am.
Liberals must be twice as good as conservatives because conservatives have standards, but lie-berals have DOUBLE-standards.
Are you listening, Dean,ol' buddy?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"