Ricky Gervais Says It's 'Child Abuse' Telling Your Child Being Gay Will Send Them to Hell
Appearing on CNN Thursday, comedian Ricky Gervais slammed certain fundamentalist Christians who warn their children that they will go to hell if they become gay. "That to me is child abuse," quipped Gervais on Piers Morgan Tonight.
"It's when I see some of these religious fundamentalists saying that they've told their five-year-old children that if they turn out gay, they will burn in hell. That to me is child abuse. That's nothing to do with religion or spirituality. That's child abuse," Gervais ranted. [Video below the break.]
Host Piers Morgan promptly teed him up to bash conservative Republicans by asking for his thoughts on the presidential race, given that some of the candidates oppose same-sex marriage due to their religious beliefs.
"Just because they're offended by someone being gay, it doesn't mean they're right," Gervais answered, and posed that the candidates should themselves try being gay. "See how much you like it," he said.
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Ricky slams a lot of people
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 6:58pm.
Everyone is fair game.
One liners, Shawn?
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:02pm.
It seems that Balboaitis is, in fact, contagious. But, you don't disappoint, next you'll tell us that Gervais is a comedian, right?
nope
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:09pm.
I find Bill Maher and Pierce Morgans comments pretty disgusting. However Ricky Gervais does not shy away from roasting the Hollywood elite which I admire
Just another deviant
Submitted by wingnut55 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 6:59pm.
Why is he trying to force his religious views on us? The Bible clearly says that homosexuality is a sin and that God abhors it. Are Christians saying that he can't say he is gay? No, not true Christians, they say that he is wrong and need to confess his sin and accept Jesus Christ as his personal Savior and Lord.
The Bible also says to stone
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:29pm.
The Bible also says to stone disobedient children, men can sell their daughters into slavery, men shouldn't shave, etc.
How about you just treat homosexuals like you would like to be treated? People like you are the reason why gay teens are killing themselves. You make their lives a living hell.
what a crock
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:31pm.
Don't blame teen suicides on Christians.
Bible Law
Submitted by wingnut55 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 8:27pm.
I think you are confusing Bible Law with the Muslim faith. They are the ones who kill disobedient children, sell their daughters in slavery, and the men don't shave. Now, I do treat homosexuals like I would like to be treated. It is just that they, like me don't like to have their sin exposed. If a person who is a homosexual would just repent of their sin and confess it to God, He would forgive him and accept him as his child. Next, yes, the Bible does say those things, but in the Old Testament. Jesus said in the New Testament that He came to fulfill the Law. We now live under the Law of Christ. You would know this if you really studied the Bible instead of just skimming in for verses to try to prove your point. Next, the only person who makes someones life "a living hell", is the person themselves. As Eleanor Roosevelt once said, no one can insult me without my permission.
When a child grows up in an
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 9:29pm.
When a child grows up in an environment where he or she is constantly called "evil," "sick," and "will burn in hell," he or she is going to start to believe that nonsense. Many have killed themselves because of religious zealots like that. Yeah, great for Eleanor. Not every gay teen has that thick of skin.
yes goldwater*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 9:45pm.
When a child grows up in an environment where he is told everyday that he is a victim, that he will never make it on his own to self reliance, that he has a "right" to essentials even though he produces nothing, will result in that child meeting those expectations. Not to worry though, there are those who know so much of what is best for you, follow me....You fail to see the hypocrisy in your comment.
No one will tell a child they are evil. But teenagers are very susceptible to peer pressure and group think. Teenagers are often "mean" to anyone who appears to be "different". It is a problem of adolescence, not theology.
I'm not talking about bullies
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:06pm.
I'm not talking about bullies at school. I'm talking about national figures like Rick Perry, Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann (in her designer outfits probably made by gay men), who have no qualm with putting out their bigotry. We've got one life to live and people like those three feel the need to devote part of it to attacking gay people. What despicable human beings.
"Judge not lest ye be judged."
How have those people bullied gay people?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:17pm.
Specific examples please. There is a difference between attacking gay people and refusing to promote their agenda.
If you've got nothing nice to
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:29pm.
If you've got nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. But people like Bachmann and Santorum feel the need to go the extra mile and tell gay people what huge sinners they are. Biggest hypocrites.
Imagine a gay teen in the ultra conservative mid west turning on the television and seeing Rick Santorum spew his bigotry while the audience cheers. I would be terrified.
Really now?
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:31pm.
Please quote for me, oh lover of group rights, where Bachmann and Santorum have told gays what huge sinners they are.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Goldie
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:23am.
You are a liar.
Gelded,
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:35am.
Be honest. Exactly how many ultra conservative mid-westerners do you actually know and how many of them are into teen gay-bashing?
Also, you should be terrified. It must be a frightening thing to go through life being as big a meeskait as you are.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
It's nicer to speak the truth to someone...
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 10:57am.
...than to sit around clucking lies and pablum to them.
Homosexuality is a sin. Period. There is no debate or discussion on the issue. If you use the Bible as a reference, homosexuality is a sin.
As is adultery. And coveting. And stealing.
"Oh, but we shouldn't say anything to the thieves out there. They should be free to live their lives. Such hypocrites, who probably stole bubble gum from the grocery store as a child, telling thieves to stop stealing because the Bible says it's wrong. If you can't say anything nice to the thieves, don't say anything at all. Imagine a teenage thief in the ultra-conservative Midwest turning on the TV and seeing Rick Santorum spewing his anti-thievery bigotry while the audience cheers."
You have no substance to your position, Goldwater.
--Mike
really goldwater*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:21pm.
Judge not lest ye be judged
Conservatives have been labeled ignorant, backward, racist, bigots, and "demons". None of these "labels" are based on anything except we do not agree with lowering moral standards and Obama socialism.
Who is being judged?
All three that you have named have not attacked gays. They simply do not believe that traditional values and beliefs should be compromised to satisfy a minority who is looking for justification for amoral existence.
"This is not funny. It's a
Submitted by goldwater89 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:40pm.
"This is not funny. It's a very sad life. It's part of Satan, I think, to say this is gay. It's anything but gay."
- Michele Bachmann
‘It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be."
- Rick Santorum
Yeah, they definitely DON'T judge people.
Bachman was making a
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:46pm.
Bachman was making a statement based on fact. Gay men have many more health issues than straight men, including STD's and anal cancers. Gay women have a higher rate of domestic abuse than straight women. No, it's not a gay life, and that's not a judgement, it's a fact.
Santorum's comment was I believe, in reference to gay marraige and the slippery slope. Based on what has happened with abortions, he has a case to make on that.
Context
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:59pm.
Excerpt from Santorum interview The Associated Press
SANTORUM: We have laws in states, like the one at the Supreme Court right now, that has sodomy laws and they were there for a purpose. Because, again, I would argue, they undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family. And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution, this right that was created, it was created in Griswold — Griswold was the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we're just extending it out. And the further you extend it out, the more you — this freedom actually intervenes and affects the family. You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family. Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —
AP: I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about "man on dog" with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out.
SANTORUM: And that's sort of where we are in today's world, unfortunately. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we're seeing it in our society.
AP: Sorry, I just never expected to talk about that when I came over here to interview you. Would a President Santorum eliminate a right to privacy — you don't agree with it?
SANTORUM: I've been very clear about that. The right to privacy is a right that was created in a law that set forth a (ban on) rights to limit individual passions. And I don't agree with that. So I would make the argument that with President, or Senator or Congressman or whoever Santorum, I would put it back to where it is, the democratic process. If New York doesn't want sodomy laws, if the people of New York want abortion, fine. I mean, I wouldn't agree with it, but that's their right. But I don't agree with the Supreme Court coming in.
Santorum is framing his argument as a federal vs state and local issue. If the feds are going to take this authority from the states, then Santorum would argue that the Constitution needs to be amended, and not that judges usurp the Constitution.
And besides, Santorum was saying that homosexuality wasn't the same as man on dog. Or are you disagreeing with him?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Why do we Conservatives
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:23am.
Why do we Conservatives always defend the premise of the ridiculous accusations that radical Left wingers, like Goldwater, make against Conservatives and Republicans? Why defend something we know it is not true.
Goldwater89's premise is a false one. It is a false narrative. By defending ourselves, instead of going on the offensive, we give credence and legs to the Left wing propaganda machine. I am tired, TIRED of accepting the lies, the falsehoods, the false narratives from the Left.
As I tell my Liberal friends now, "I will not answer any question based on a Left wing premise!" Instead, as I have done as of late, mainly with the ridiculous and false premise that the GOP, Conservatives, the Roman Catholic Church wants to force women not to buy or use contraceptives, I turn it around on these tools and show them how they are imposing their moral values on us. how they use the government to shove down our throats their totalitarian ways.
Turn it around on this easily led tools. Put a mirror infront of them and show them the face of the real Left. The Left which they adore and worship. A Left which is full of hatred, bigotry and bullies.
It is the Left, the Liberals in America who love to bully people, who spew hatred. Alec Baldwin, Tim Robins, Susan Serandon, Jeanine Gerafolo, Bill Maher, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Obama, Clintons, Kennedys these are merely a few of the individuals which make the Left wing bullies and bigots. this is merely the tip of the tip of the iceberg.
Why bother?
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 8:44am.
I understand your point, Liberallies. I guess I take the time to refute what people Goldwater say so the casual readers of NB can also come to understand what a troll he is. I don't really expect him to reply to my post. I know he's a hit-and-run poster who takes quotes out of context or just makes stuff up. But there are others out there who don't spend a lot of time on NB who might look at those types of posts and think that, if no one is refuting him, he may have a point.
And it's also pretty easy and not very time consuming.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Ah, so now i'm a "Radical
Submitted by goldwater89 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 11:56am.
Ah, so now i'm a "Radical left-winger," gotcha. I've never voted for a Democrat in my life, nor would I ever. But I also won't vote for some far-right bigot. I'd rather stay home than vote for a loon like Rick Santorum.
Lazy is not a character attribute.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:01pm.
At least where I come from.
Since you're lying about Santorum...
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:11pm.
...it is plausible you're lying about your voting record as well.
--Mike
Mike, Santorum compared two
Submitted by goldwater89 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:22pm.
Mike, Santorum compared two men or women being in love to having sex with a dog. That's a fact.
and thats a problem
Submitted by TruthMonger on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:26pm.
and thats a problem because...?
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
TM "and thats a problem because..."
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:38pm.
...they believe God is wrong about sex only being between one man and one woman.
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
welll then why would sex with
Submitted by TruthMonger on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:45pm.
welll then why would sex with a dog bother them i wonder
they must be canineaphobes
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
This is always a fantastic
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:59pm.
This is always a fantastic argument...
⇒ You really think so, bal?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 1:07pm.
I'm not sufficiently experienced to opine on the efficacy of either sex act.
But feel free to share your comparative experience with us. Try to keep it clean.
BWAHAHAHA!
thanks bal - if i can convert
Submitted by TruthMonger on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 1:08pm.
thanks bal - if i can convert you then the possiblities are endless!
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Santorum never used the word "love." Stop making things up.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 1:19pm.
.
Goldwater, your definition of a "fact" is specious at best.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:57pm.
You were shown the quote in context, yet continue to ignore the context.
Sexual deviancy is sexual deviancy, but Santorum didn't even go that far. Unless you can present an example in human history where homosexuality was defined by a society as a legitimate foundation for a marriage, you really need to put an end to your protestations.
--Mike
Goldwater89, Yes,
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 2:25pm.
Goldwater89,
Yes, yes...sure, sure. I know your kind. You come in here insulting the Right, making generalizations, stereotyping Conservatives and Republicans. You make false claims about what has been said or not. You paint us all as bullies, radical, etc and then when it is proven to you that the real and true bullies reside on the Left wing, in Liberalism, you attempt the weak and age old defense of, "...but, but...I am an Independent..."
You have YET to criticize, attack and go after Left wing bullying, Left wing hate, Left wing insulting anyone and everyonw who disagrees with them. When you do so, you may gain some credibility. Until then, keep on claiming that homosexuals somehow experience things that no chubby kid has, no super thin kid has, that no kid who wears eye glasses has, that no kid uni-eyebrow kid has, etc., etc., etc. Bullying does not only happen to homosexuals, FAR from it.
and as I was told by my Lesbian boss, militant homosexuals are THE most intolerant, hateful and biggest bullies on planet Earth. But you turn a blind eye to these bullies, hypocrite.
I don't get it
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 7:50am.
Why are you so ashamed of being a Leftist? You whine about being called a Leftist yet anytime I have seen you post on NB you are attacking the Right. What the hell are people supposed to conclude around here?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I'm not a Leftist. I
Submitted by goldwater89 on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 1:47pm.
I'm not a Leftist. I criticize the FAR-right fringe crowd. They are no better than those on the far-left.
Be intellectually honest for once.
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 8:54pm.
Be proud of being a Leftist. Just admit it. It will be the most intellectually honest thing you have ever done on NB if not your entire life.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
When you're as far to the
Submitted by goldwater89 on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:20pm.
When you're as far to the right as you are, who isn't a leftist
Me
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 10:00pm.
!
What?
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 11:11pm.
You callin' me a Bircher?????
I'm sorry that having a government that stays within its means and society acknowledging the concept of personal responsibility is so evil and threatening and "far-right" to you.
No, I'm not...but then, I'm intellectually honest about my being on the Right.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Good evening Goldwater
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:05pm.
When someone is as far left as you are the far fight to them is still below the horizon and far left of center.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I'm a Rockefeller Republican,
Submitted by goldwater89 on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:25pm.
I'm a Rockefeller Republican, or a Moderate Republican, to use a more modern classification.
You know there used to be a time when the GOP was an open tent before folks like you on the far-right hijacked the party. For people who claim to be against big government, you guys sure do love getting into peoples private lives.
Then you are toast
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:31pm.
No more squishy RINOs.
If you don't like it, be a democrat.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I see...
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:36pm.
In other words, you're a Leftist.
Actually, I don't see Rightists getting into people's private lives. That's just the shrieking of people like yourselves who are aching for a no-fault, consequence-free existence.
None of this, of course, changes the fact that you do not EVER go after Leftists here; you ONLY attack the Right.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Don't want gays to have the
Submitted by goldwater89 on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:45pm.
Don't want gays to have the same rights as heterosexuals, don't want abortion - that's sticking your nose into peoples private lives.
When your "right" kills another human being
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:55pm.
it's not longer your private life.
Gays have the same rights as heterosexual.
You are very confused.
gelded89,
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 9:57pm.
Care to elaborate on exactly what those rights are? Do you know what the difference is between a right and a privilege?
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Come again?
Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 11:16pm.
Homosexuals have the same exact rights as heterosexuals do.
People like you are turning me off to abortion, because I am increasingly reaching the conclusion that the reason you love abortion so much is simple: you see it as a path to a no-fault existence where no consequences are possible.
There is no such thing as a no-fault, consequence-free existence. Responsibility sucks but there it is and no matter how much you try to wish it away and attack people who remind you it exists, responsibility isn't going away. The joke's on you.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
They have the same rights? Is
Submitted by goldwater89 on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 7:35pm.
They have the same rights? Is that why they can't marry who they love?
I'm personally Pro-life. But the government has NO RIGHT to tell women what to do with their bodies, Mr. Big Government Republican.
Is that so goldwater?*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 8:45pm.
A woman who sells her body to men has committed a crime.
A woman that fills her body with alcohol and drugs and disrupts lives of others has committed a crime.
A woman that gets pregnant and decides to "sell" the baby has committed a crime.
According to your thinking women should be able to do anything they want with their bodies. But like all liberals, you leave out consequences.
There are rules for MEN and women so that we have a safe and orderly society. Rules and laws are not necessarily for those men and women who contribute to that orderly society. Rules are for the dregs of our society. Those who live only for their own pleasures and whims.
Next, I suspect, you are going to tell us that an adult female has the right to consent to having a sexual relationship with her father.
Aint it sad,
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 9:07pm.
That we have devolves as a society, that you need the explain the very basics to some folks.
Big Gov? How about simple self respect, and respect for others, ya know,,manors?
Everyone is entitled to marry someone of the opposite sex
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 9:04pm.
Barring things like consangunuity and age. The government does have the right to tell women what they cannot do to other human beings, including murder them.
Agree Boudin*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 9:45pm.
Trolls all sound the same. The deja vu is strong in this one.
Then you're not "personally pro-life."
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 11:04pm.
At all.
--Mike
Sure they do
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 02/24/2012 - 8:20am.
They have exactly the same rights. I can't marry who I love. Marriage is not a right.
And you contradict yourself in the last sentence. You can't be "pro-life" and then say women can do whatever they damn well please with their bodies. And as far as I am concerned, sure they can. But women (or anyone else) have NO RIGHT to DEMAND that I pay for their decisions, Mr. Group Rights Obsessed, Intellectually Dishonest Leftist.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Quite right. We stick our noses into others' lives a lot.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 8:23am.
We think thieves shouldn't steal.
We think arsonists shouldn't burn down buildings.
We think abortionists shouldn't kill children before they're born.
For all you "Rockefeller Republicans" out there, even speed limit signs are an "intrusion into people's private lives." So are building codes, restaurant health inspections, limitations on where and when you can smoke cigarettes, and the general disapproval for the notion of shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. (Or "Theater!" in a crowded fire station, for that matter.) To coin a phrase, Goldwater, no man is an island. When you live in a society, there will be social prohibitions--many of them codified into law.
And as things stand, homosexuals have precisely the same rights as heterosexuals. What those poor souls seek are special laws that would "normalize" their particular sexual deviancy, and that is just patently unacceptable. Since rights come from God, there can be no "right" to marriage that involves two people of the same sex.
By all means, you're free to find an uninhabited island, whip up your own society out of whole cloth, and invite those who are like-minded to join. Never mind all the stolen property and burning buildings--between the slaughter of developing children and the same-sex marriages, I don't think your presumed Utopia will have much of a lifespan.
--Mike
Goldwater89,
Submitted by Liberallies on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 10:00pm.
Goldwater89,
BWAHAHAHA!!!
you are crying over a Republican party which you claim does not have an open tent while making fun, belittling, insulting, lying and spitting on Republicans you disagree with. Whose the one who hates an open tent GOP? LOL
Of course the irony is missed... hahaha!!
Goldwater89, really?!
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:09am.
Goldwater89,
really?! REALLY?!!! FREAKING FOR REAL?!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!! Do you want us to start putting up quotes, after quotes, after quotes, after quotes, after quotes, after quotes from prominent Left wingers, politicians, actors, talking heads, television shows, movies in which they insult, belittle, berate, objectify, use hatred, vitrol, call for the death of, against Conservatives, Republicans? Using your standards, Liberals in America are the biggest bullies and haters in the world!
But that is the problem with Liberals like you Goldwater89, you have zero problem with Conservatives and Republicans getting bullied by Left wingers, by Liberals. You only care about what you consider bullying against homosexuals. Screw others who are getting bullied by those whom you side with ideologically, it is only about homosexuals. Bigotry and hatred is a market cornered by the Left, Liberals.
Additionally, children have been bullied about ALL type of things for centuries. For being chubby, for wearing glasses, beint too tall, too short, for having a weird nose, eyes, uni-eyebrows, weird eye color, being awkward and not being able to play sports, for being Christian, for being Atheist, for being white, black, asian, latino, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....why do all of a sudden getting bullied for supposedly being homosexual is more important than getting bullied for any other reason? Why do some homosexuals always demand rights that no one else enjoys?
As my Lesbian boss says, there is nothing more hateful and full of bigotry in the world than radical and militant homosexuals who hate their own if they dare not join in their radicalism of America.
Goldwater89, Sorry buddy,
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:16am.
Goldwater89,
Sorry buddy, but like most Liberals, you ooze with Liberal hypocrisy.
The deep bullying and hatred that is thrown out by the Left towards anyone who "dares" to disagree with them is infinetely worse than any example, out of context, you can come up with.
Geez, shall we talk about the movie made by Left wingers in which Bush was assasinated, a Left wingers wet dream! Shall we talk about prominenet Left wing radio personality, on air, saying she was going to kill Bush, and having the sound of a shot-gun go off while she said this? It was so bad that even the Secret Service paid this Left wing bully and wacked job a visit. Or how the Left insults, berates, and bullies Latinos and Blacks who "dare" leave the Left wing plantation to think for ourselves? And this doesn't even scratch the surface of the Liberal and Left wing bullying that goes on in America.
Please do yourself a favor and stop with the Left wing propaganda. Thanks.
You don't know Christian homes.
Submitted by wingnut55 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 2:18am.
You should not talk about that which you obviously don't know anything about. A Christian home teaches that everyone is loved by God and that God is ready to accept them into His family. The children are not called "evil, sick nor are they told that they will burn in hell." They are told that they are normal, loved, and can make a choice for themselves. All I can say, goldwater89 is that you should read the Bible. I suggest that you start with the book of John. It is easy to understand and can show you the choice that you need to make. God loves you and is ready to forgive you your sins. He will never bring them up again and will accept you as His child. If you can't bring yourself to do this because you think is stupid or too hard to do. Let me tell you a story of Naaman in the Bible. He had leprosy and was sent to the Prophet Elisha. The Prophet told him to dip himself in the Jordan 7 times and he would be cured. He decided that was just stupid and refused to do it. His servant said, if he told you to do something hard you would have done that, why not this easy thing? So he did and was cured of the leprosy. Read the book of John and see what it has to say about Jesus and salvation.
Yeah, I was told I'd go blind if I kept "abusing" myself,
Submitted by nonncom on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:30pm.
too, but I fooled 'em....I stopped after I was told I needed glasses....
That's not a Christian
Submitted by redfish on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:03pm.
That's not a Christian doctrine in any sect except the Westboro Baptist Church, Ricky. Maybe you shouldn't be so ignorant.
I'd be careful about that.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:31pm.
Sin separates us from God.
Pursuing sin instead of God, rejecting salvation in Christ for one's "pet sin" (regardless of what that sin might be), is indeed how people wind up in Hell. That is a fundamental Christian belief.
Your confusion is in saying what the non-Christian Westboro cult believes; they believe that God hates individuals who pursue a specific sin lifestyle, which is not the case. God loves us--what He hates is our sin.
Any sin.
Gervais is, indeed, uninformed on the subject matter, though he presumes to pontificate to Piers about it.
--Mike
So fundamentalists are
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:05pm.
So fundamentalists are slammed, and gay kids are slammed. Zero sum game.
Whats Worse
Submitted by DirtyDave777 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:11pm.
Raising your kids with some Foundations in life
OR
Doing your best to confuse them into some kind Psychopath.
A Parents Job is to Raise a child so they can take care of themselves.
Just how does using a PC sliding scale Teach them anything but the Flavor of the Day?
If you don't believe in Something You'll Fall For Anything.
What about all other Religions?
Submitted by Spinningplates2 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:11pm.
How come the question does not reference Muslims? They seem to have some pretty strong opinions. Right? If Republicans point this out however they are then painted as being Islamophophic.
Because Liberals are cowards
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:27am.
Because Liberals are cowards and most cowards are also bullies. Left wingers, when pushed hard enough, will admit that the reason they go after Christianity and not Islam is becauase they know Christians well get down on their knees and pray for them. While Muslims will get the attacker on his/her knee and chop off their heads.
Liberalism=Coward
Who is this idiot Ricky Gervais????
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:26pm.
I swear any person that comes out on The British Eavesdropper's show and slams Christians are SURE to realize that more likely than not ARABS will actually KILL the homosexual. To him I guess that act is more tolerable and not considered abuse since he doesn't address that little known FACT in his diatribe.
More lies.
Submitted by Calypso Jones on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:27pm.
WHAT fundamentalist has he seen telling children that being homosexual means they will go to hell? The only persons coming close would be the Fred Phelps church and that guy IS on the left, not to mention NOT christian. This is just more made up propaganda designed to give christians a black eye.
BLEEP YOU Gervais
Submitted by FistsforLiberty on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:31pm.
You hypocrite, bashing gays and bashing religion is the same thing.
I wish
Submitted by bobsmom on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:36pm.
he worried as much about the "tots and tiaras" set. No kidding, I had the great misfortune of staying in a lovely hotel in Nashville recently, and yay, they had one of those kiddie beauty pageant things going on. I ignored everything, until I witnessed a mother's diatribe in an elevator to her (bewigged, pedicured, fully made up, spray tanned) 4 year old, berating the child for not being "sexy enough" in front of the judges, because "sexy" was the only way she was gonna win..........I wish I could say I turned away and ignored her, but, alas, I did not. My razor sharp tongue got a work out (no cussing in front of the child) but holy moses, I just couldn't stop myself. THAT's child abuse, not parents discussing religious values with their own children. I'll stay out of your bedroom folks, if you'll stay out of my nursery.
THANK YOU FOR NOT TURNING AWAY
Submitted by Chaitealover on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:53pm.
That child is being raised to believe that flaunting her sexuality and becoming an object for some man to judge as to her worth in the world is the norm for a girl. Thank you for showing her that her mother is just plain wrong.
That program makes me physically ill.
Chai
This is the Ricky Gervais
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 7:56pm.
who's made big cake with the shows "An Idiot Abroad", which features a less-than-brilliant guy travelling the world to be subjected to Gervais' ideas of how to humiliate him; and "Life is Short", in which he's conned Warwick Davis into a fictionalized autobio series wherein he experiences a wide variety of "little people bashing"--supposedly (according to Gervais) satirizing the bigotry by being bigoted.
Really tankin' up on the milk of human kindness, aren't you Ricky?
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
These guys haven't got a single foot in reality
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 8:00pm.
I highly doubt Christians are telling their five year old children they'll go to hell if they're gay because I don't think most Christians are discussing gay sex with children that young.
nuggets
Submitted by CJohnson on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 8:33pm.
What about telling children their parents are killing them, at home, with potato chips?
Exactly!
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:05pm.
I actually got cut on a potato chip once. It was like a paper cut, only worse, because it also had salt on it!
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
And WHEN has he ever encountered this?
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 8:58pm.
Ricky doesn't have children himself, so he can't say he ever said that to his children or heard it from their friends.
In some of the bios that I accessed online, he is an avowed atheist. Accordingly, my question is if he does not believe in hell what's the difference?
He is entitled to his opinion, just as we are entitled to tell him he and his opinions are crap.
I doubt he's...
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:29am.
ever heard anyone tell a child that. Probably those voices in his head.
Thoughts can be crimes in the
Submitted by mattm on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 9:46pm.
Thoughts can be crimes in the totalitarian socialist world of "liberalism."
So wait a sec...
Submitted by LinTaylor on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:02pm.
Guys like this are the ones who throw a giant fit if anyone ever implies that homosexuality is a choice.
...And then they turn right back around and tell conservatives that they need to "try being gay" in the belief that it'll change their opinions.
Yep.
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:09pm.
They throw a temper tantrum and yet giggle like little school girls when they call a Republican a Teabagger.
Can't help but agree
Submitted by TLCTugger on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:10pm.
Telling your kid s/he will burn in hell if gay is child abuse. Who's even debating that?
Ok TLC *
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:07pm.
No one tells a "child" they are going to hell. Children are innocent. By the time a child becomes a teenager, there is nothing wrong with trying to guide that child to a moral existence. A homosexual can be a "good" person but they can also live very sinful lives. What is wrong with trying to prevent that lifestyle?
If Christians are so mean to try to guide our young people, then tell me this. What happens to homosexuals in Muslim countries?
gay kids
Submitted by GerryC on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:19pm.
When we find the gene that creates "gay" kids, they will be aborted at the same rate of kids that have Down's syndrome. (90% of down's kids are murdered in the womb today). Killing a human is murder, regardless of what your idea of "life' means
There is no "gay gene"; it's a myth....
Submitted by stage9 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:54pm.
H o m o s e x u a l s have claimed that H o m o s e x u a l i t y has been repeatedly demonstrated to be, and is in fact, an innate, genetically-determined condition.
Dean Hamer of the National Institutes of Health performed and published the research most widely cited as pointing to a "g a y gene." Dr. Hamer testified in the Colorado Proposition 2 court case that he was "99.5% certain that h o m o s e x u a l i t y is genetic." He later came to the following conclusions:
"The pedigree failed to produce what we originally hoped to find: simple Mendelian inheritance. In fact, we never found a single family in which h o m o s e x ua l i t y was distributed in the obvious pattern that Mendel observed..."
Hamer's study was duplicated by Rice et al with research that was more robust. In this replication the genetic markers found by Hamer turned out to be of no statistical significance:
"It is unclear why our results are so discrepant from Hamer's original study. Because our study was larger than that of Hamer's et al, we certainly had adequate power to detect a genetic effect as large as reported in that study. Nonetheless, our data do not support the presence of a gene of large effect influencing s e x u a l orientation..."
Simon LeVay, a neuroanatomist at The Salk Institute in San Diego, founded the Institute for G a y and L e s b i a n Education in San Francisco after researching and publishing the study of hypothalamic structures in men most widely-cited as confirming innate brain differences between h o m o s e x u a l s and h e t e r o s e x u a l s, as he himself initially argued. He later acknowledged:
"It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that h o m o s e x u a l i t y is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being g a y. I didn't show that g a y men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a g a y center in the brain."
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Cut and Paste Job
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:22pm.
One of the worst cut and paste jobs I have ever seen. If you are going to cut and paste, at least give some credit to whomever's work you are stealing. This is a direct cut and paste job from this website. If not from that website, then from another website that has done the same thing that you have done.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
This guy keeps popping up
Submitted by BosTarus on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 3:42pm.
This guy keeps popping up with the same cut and pasted "stats" and whatnot. He also continues to ignore any points against his cut and pasted "truths".
In this case, his use of Simon LeVay is ill advised. He's been attacked from both sides of this issue (which make him an actually reliable source-but one that doesn't support your claim.) And your use of his genetic claims is just a blatant misunderstanding of scientific data.
"It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that h o m o s e x u a l i t y is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being g a y. I didn't show that g a y men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a g a y center in the brain."
This does not mean, as you think, that "homosexuals CHOOSE to be gay"-it means he was unable to locate any genetic cause. Not that one does not exist. He has said that the science needs to improve if there is any hope of finding a genetic cause. And the reference to the common mistake is about his discovery that "development of sexual orientation, at least in men, is closely tied in with the prenatal sexual differentation of the brain." Many mistake this as genetic proof-and his point is that there are many things to consider for this. But he is stating that there is a biological leaning in the brain. He just hasn't found the "genetic source"... not that one does not exist.
You know I had to add a psychiatric moment!
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 12:12am.
Long ago in psychiatry, we accepted the fact that human sexuality is immensely complex and not just a nature vs. nurture question. It is far more than that. There is little, if any, convincing evidence from a purely scientific viewpoint that homosexuality is genetically linked. EQUALLY, there is little, if any, convincing evidence from a purely scientific viewpoint that homosexuality is linked only to environment or psychiatric factors. In other words, medicine remains puzzled as to why homosexuality exists at all, but nonetheless it does. It does not fall under a treatable mental illness, as this still-controversial choice was made long before I became a psychiatrist, and I am not trained to recognize it as such. That being said, my faith and my personal values are quite different, but I must leave those at the door when I enter my clinic.
I completely respect that! I
Submitted by BosTarus on Wed, 02/22/2012 - 3:17pm.
I completely respect that! I hope you weren't thinking I was arguing for a purely genetic cause-only that the previous poster was misrepresenting data as solid proof that such a cause DOES NOT exist.
I appreciate that you have a nuanced understanding of the issue-like most things in life-it is neither wholly one way or the other-but instead some complicated middle state. It's way too easy to boil these sorts of debates down to a single cause-but that's just disrespectful to the immense complexity of the human brain!
Not al all, Bos!
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 12:49am.
I just wanted to point out that in medicine we don't know where homosexuality comes from--genetics or environment or both. I also wanted to again say that I don't have any basis for concluding homosexuality is a mental disorder because that was absolutely not the case in my training nor has it been included as a mental illness during my years as a practicing psychiatrist and neurologist. Other sexual tendencies DO remain serious mental disorders, which we call paraphilias, including pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality and sado-masochism subtypes. These I do treat in patients, and out of decorum and respect for the members of this board I will not mention any cases. I am always disturbed by what liberals like to dismiss as "just sex", and I continue to be appalled and disgusted by the depravity and sexual amorality I see on an every day basis. Between Cajun, Blonde, Stratman and I we could tell stories that would break anyone's bones on this board.
Freud tried, but did not succeed, in placing homosexuality within his genitally-obsessed theories of personality development. Not even his strongest advocates or adherents place any true value in what he said.
As always, I am a proud conservative Latino Catholic who simply hopes that all will find comfort in the cross, and come to know the grace and forgiveness of God the almighty. I feel truly blessed by God, for he has given me a beautiful, loving wife of over 35 years, four educated and wonderful children and now four grandchildren. All of them share our values and our faith, and I am extremely proud to say they are all educated, productive and contributing members of society. There is nothing more anyone could ask.
Sorry to get maudlin there!
No worries!
Submitted by BosTarus on Thu, 02/23/2012 - 3:44pm.
There really isn't!
God?
Submitted by GerryC on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:35pm.
I know we all love god, but his son told us that we must love each other first. The Lord waited over 100,000 years to send us his son and messenger when he thought we were ready to understand the message. Jesus told us "Treat each other as you wish to be treated". There is nothing more relevant and important. Gerry
Wrong, Gerry.
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:57pm.
The FIRST commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength. The SECOND is to love one's neighbor as oneself.
Love and justice are intertwined...
Submitted by stage9 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:09pm.
within God's perfect economy. God does not love us exclusive of His moral justice. If He did, murderers would go free. Hitler would be in heaven. Murderous dictators would not have their day in Court.
How would justice be served if someone murdered your mother and then God tells the murderer, "Well, I love Him first, so I can't administer justice to him."
Love is what motivates God to say "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
If Hitler can go free because God is Love, then that isn't love at all.
"Justice is a term used for what is right or “as it should be.” Justice is one of God’s attributes and flows out of His holiness. Justice and righteousness are often used synonymously in the Bible. Since righteousness is the quality or character of being right or just, it is another attribute of God and incorporates both His justice and holiness.
We cannot begin to understand God’s justice unless we first understand sin. Sin is lawlessness (1 John 3:4) and iniquity (Daniel 9:4-5; Micah 2:1; James 3:6). It embodies everything contrary to God’s holy nature and is offensive to Him. Thus, sin is a crime against God and justice demands a penalty of death and separation from Him for it (Romans 1:18-32; 2:5; 3:23). But God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to earth to pay that penalty for us (Romans 5:8-11; 6:23) and made salvation available to all who believe in His name (John 1:12; 3:15-17; 20:31).
God’s own righteousness is provided as a gift to sinners who are accepted by Jesus Christ as their Savior and is based upon His grace and mercy in response to our faith (Romans 3:23-26; Ephesians 2:3-7). His mercy and grace are not in spite of His justice, but because of it. He loved us so much that despite the fact that our sin demands our death, He sent His Son to be our substitute upon the cross, thus demonstrating that His justice was not violated, but instead satisfied (1 Thessalonians 1:10; 5:9)." -- J.I. Packer
Who knows best? God or man?
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
stage 9
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:14pm.
Posts like that are why I keep coming back to this site. Excellent.
Nice sentiments
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:31pm.
But certainly not unique to this website. Copying and Pasting is fine, as long a little credit is given to the source. Take your pick.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
First...
Submitted by stage9 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:53pm.
I don't know a SINGLE person who says this...and I highly DOUBT Gervais actually knows any Christians to be able to speak intelligently on the subject anyway.
Second, Mr Gervais, you can mull it over in hell when you get there whether or not God means what He says on the matter.
Secularists are the epitome of arrogance!
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Romans 1
Submitted by Gothampc on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:02pm.
Read it in Romans 1. God will give them over to a reprobate mind.
The heart of the wise
Submitted by prove it on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:47am.
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Ecclesiastes 10:2
Liberals know the "truth". The facts are a conspiracy
Submitted by prove it on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:46am.
sooo.......telling a kid that inserting a penis into another man's anus is not child abuse!!!
Still
Submitted by theduck6 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 8:23am.
It astounds me from whom the masses get their opinions and to whom they listen to. Gervais is a foul , classless, potty mouth. Why is ANYONE listening to him or his ilk?
because the msm, our public
Submitted by TruthMonger on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 11:10am.
because the msm, our public 'schools,' hollywood and the rest of mainstream entertainment, and universities, etc treat these guys like a rocket scientist
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Ricky
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 10:12am.
the athiest should be concerned about his own eternal future. And don't judge, ricky. That's what you liberals keep telling us.
it's not: Being Gay Will Send Them to Hell...
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 12:22pm.
...it's
1) a choice to go to hell - not God or anyone else sends anyone to hell (it's God's desire that "...none should be lost")
2) "NO one comes to the Father (thus Heaven) except through me (Jesus)"
So, by not accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (#2), one chooses (#1) to go to hell
simple
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Militant Homosexuals ignore the Science of our species
Submitted by Founders1791 on Tue, 02/21/2012 - 1:40pm.
SPECIAL RIGHTS FOR MINORITY BEHAVIOR
As a nation, the Heterosexual Community MUST TAKE a STAND against the Militant Homosexual Community, who comprise only 1.7% of our population, but wish to force 98.3% of the population to 'their unreasonable demands' of acceptance.
MARRIAGE IS NOT A RIGHT
The "invention of marriage" began as a societal creation. It is NOT A RIGHT. No one is "born to marry" anyone or anything. No one can tell if a person is a homosexual or heterosexual. Only the individual can confirm their "present status".
It is a willful attempt to dilute "inalienable rights" as to whatever "the advocate" claims it is. This is "corrupt selfish thinking" at the very least.
Society restricts right now:
Who you can marry – States “dictate” no first cousins, family members
What you can marry – States “dictate” nothing outside the species
When you can marry - States "dictate" the age of consent.
Where you can marry - States "dictate" Clergy, Judges, and Navel Captains.
The subject of "gay lifestyle" is not the same as "gay marriage". As a society we tolerate many behaviors and practices because we can. Just as we do not tolerate other practices because we can. Our society does not tolerate polygamy, incest, bestiality, witch craft, or homosexuality as ‘normal behavior’.
IT IS 'IN OUR SPECIES DNA' TO REJECT HOMOSEXUALITY
Science is the base of argument to proffer on this subject. At no time has Science afforded "biological equivalence" of "aberrant behavior", within a species, to the normal traits that species exhibits to fulfill its natural DNA instruction for propagation.
That is Scientific Fact. This is also why Marriage is a reflection of society’s recognition of that scientific fact. The Boy / Girl combination is not a metaphor, it is science.
CIVIL UNIONS WORK
It is ethically and morally wrong to codify into law what is scientifically proven to be bad for our species and culture. Modern day society has made a "generous accommodation" in the institution of Civil Unions to provide the legal equivalence of Marriage.
The Homosexual Community, so far, does not wish a satisfactory solution. They wish to "deprive others", in a selfish and vain, attempt at self cleansing their shame by spreading the misery to others by pretending to be the same as ordinary man and woman couples. They are not (scientifically) normal couples.
LIBERAL HYPOCRITES
Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr, is on record, AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73oZ_pe1MZ8