Fareed Zakaria: Today's Conservative Movement Like 'the Old Marxists,' Too Much Rooted In Abstract Ideas
CNN's Fareed Zakaria regurgitated his conservative-bashing Time magazine piece on his Sunday show Fareed Zakaria GPS. He opened up his program with the same barrage against conservatives that he launched in Time on Thursday, namely that today's conservatism is woefully divorced from reality like the Marxists of the 19th century.
Zakaria writes that "conservatives now resemble the old Marxists who refuse to look at actual experience." Instead, he argues, they are hopelessly enamored with "policies that are simply recitations of some free market theory taken out of some book based on no actually-existing national economy."
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This closed-minded Republican "refusal" to model health care, education, and infrastructure after the best from around the globe irks Zakaria, who himself is a foreign-affairs expert and apparently desires that we open ourselves up to ideas from around the globe. He knocks today's leading conservatives as "wooly-headed" for not studying up on foreign economies and health care systems to procure ideas for innovation.
Ironically, Zakaria claims that "market-friendly, conservative reforms" are needed, but only ones that are "rooted in reality." This is from a man who in 2008 took time on-air to explain why he was voting for Obama, and has had face-to-face conversations with the president recently on foreign affairs.
And yet Zakaria fails to credit, or at least critique, the role of President Reagan's economic policies in the two decades of growth, as he demands evidence for the theory that "massive tax cuts are the single best path to revive the U.S. economy". He argues that the United States has some of the lowest tax rates of any industrial powerhouse and is still trying to jumpstart its economy.
Zakaria points to China for direction as the "world's fastest-growing economy." He touts that they have "managed to use government involvement to create growth and jobs for three decades."
To read Zakaria's article in Time magazine, click here.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on June 19 at , is as follows:
FAREED ZAKARIA: Now, here's my take. I've been watching the Republicans on the campaign trail and what strikes me so far is that conservatives in America have gone through a strange transformation. It used to be that conservatism was a hard-headed set of ideas rooted in reality. Unlike the abstract theories of Marxism and socialism, it started not from an imagined society, but from the world as it actually exists. This is the way things work, conservatives would patiently explain to wooly-headed liberal professors. Whatever you may want it to look like, this is what it really looks like.
But consider the debates over the economy these days. The Republican prescription is cut taxes, slash government spending, then things will always bounce back. Now, I would like to see lower tax rates in the context of simplification and reform, but what is the actual evidence that massive tax cuts are the single best path to revive the U.S. economy? Taxes as a percentage of GDP are at their lowest levels since 1950. The U.S. is among the lowest taxed of the big industrial economies. So the case that America is grinding to a halt because of high taxations is not based on facts, either past or present, but is simply a theoretical assertion. The rich countries after all that are in the best shape right now, with strong growth and low unemployment, are ones like Germany and Denmark and Canada, none characterized by low taxes.
Many Republican businessmen have told me that the Obama administration is the most hostile to business in 50 years. Really? More than that of Richard Nixon, for example, who presided over tax rates that reached 70 percent, regulations that spanned whole industries like airlines and telecommunication, and who actually instituted price and wage controls? In fact, right now, any discussion of any government involvement in the economy, even to build vital infrastructure, is impossible because it is a cardinal tenet of the new conservatism that such involvement is always and forever bad.
That's the theory. Meanwhile, in practice across the globe, the world's fastest growing economy, China, has managed to use government involvement to create growth and jobs for three decades. From Singapore to South Korea to Germany, evidence abounds that some strategic actions by governments can act as catalysts for free market growth.
But conservatives now resemble the old Marxists who refuse to look at actual experience. I know it works in practice, the old saw goes, but does it work in theory? Republicans often praise businessmen. Well, one of the first steps any business now takes when confronting a problem is to ask how are other companies around the world handling this? Is there a best practice we can learn from? But in any area, from infrastructure to health care to education, that is heresy on the right.
It's a shame. I think we need smart, market-friendly conservative reforms that streamline government, cut costs in health care, empower individuals, but they need to be rooted in reality, drawn from best practices around the world and based on practical measures of what seems to work. What we have instead are policies that are simply recitations of some free market theory taken out of some book based on no actually existing national economy. It turns out that conservatives have become the wooly-headed professors after all. For more on this, you can read my column in this week's "Time" magazine or at Time.com.
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Best Practices Around the World?
Submitted by tvhall on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:23pm.
Like the semi socialist countires that are little better than cesspits for their citizens? Greece, Spain and so on? Fareed at your mid 6 figure income its easy to tell us what's best for the country. Take off that suit and come down here and see how difficult it to make a living by producing something and paying the honorous tax rates of today. Or better yet go back to the cow crap covered dirt streets of you home country. Or read "Demonic" especially the section on the French Reveloution.
Anybody Realize Fareed Zakaria is a Traitor?
Submitted by mmacburt on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 7:52pm.
Not as an insult but do people realize this guy is launching a serious effort to revis the constitution and that he is 'educating' people about how illigetimate the Constitution is?
THis guy is trying to also get more young people to declare themselves 'Global Citizens' rather than US Citizens?
This is a guy who is trying to legitimize the discussion of repealing the constitution.
America....
Submitted by adamsmith on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:33pm.
Wasn't the whole concept of the United States based on abstract ideas developed during the Enlightenment and from the ancient Romans and Greeks? Abstract ideas like liberty, possession of property, abolition, freedom to practice religion.
Where do they get these Communist idiots? Send this malcontent POS back to the craphole he came from if he doesn't like it here. I'm getting tired of the left hating my country.....
FZ is a perfect advisor for
Submitted by d1carter on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:36pm.
FZ is a perfect advisor for the Marxist in Chief...
Bravo Sierra
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:42pm.
Oh my lord this guy is so full of it, I can smell the stink.
This is more of that "re-defining" that this libs are engaged in lately.
Kinda like how Tom Hanks is re-writing WW2 history with The Pacific by saying it was a racist war.
-Jon
Foreign Affairs Expert??
Submitted by jdripper on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:53pm.
Who says this guys is a foreign affairs EXPERT? He isn't one. Second his condemnation of conservatism fits very nicely into a narrative that probably came to him in an envelope bearing the White House's emblem instead of some deep thought. Don't forget Jon Stewart has declared that CNN is an honest reporter of opinions and news.
Jack
Awesome Fareed!
Submitted by Bhaal on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:54pm.
That comparison is totally spot on. Like you being woefully divorced of logic in your thinking just like progressives of the 21st century.
FZ: " . . . Many Republican
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 4:02pm.
FZ: " . . . Many Republican businessmen have told me that the Obama administration is the most hostile to business in 50 years. Really? More than that of Richard Nixon, for example, who presided over tax rates that reached 70 percent, regulations that spanned whole industries like airlines and telecommunication, and who actually instituted price and wage controls?"
Okay. Forty years. That fact is that the economy is in stasis because of uncertain, anti-business WH policies, so investors and businesses are holding onto their capital.
Examples of Big Government chaos?:
- Waivers to Obamacare ---- over 1300. Why not everyone?
- More regulations with force of law by regulatory agencies --- what Obama can't get passed by through the Congress will merely be mandated by the left-driven EPA, etc.
FZ: "The U.S. is among the lowest taxed of the big industrial economies."
According to the US Chamber of Commerce, the taxes on industry in the US are the highest among industrialized nations. Those nations make up the difference by raising taxes on the citizens.
So the case that America is grinding to a halt because of high taxations is not based on facts, either past or present, but is simply a theoretical assertion. The rich countries after all that are in the best shape right now, with strong growth and low unemployment, are ones like Germany and Denmark and Canada, none characterized by low taxes.
All taxes are repressive
Submitted by IdahoJim on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 4:29pm.
No matter how high or low taxes are, the government is a parasite that sucks the money out of the economy to survive. It produces no wealth, no product, no credible addition to the economy.
The more money it sucks in, the less that is left in the economy for day to day operations. Add to that the fact that the government always over-regulates anything it touches and you have a case of a leech telling the fish how to live, where to go, and what to eat.
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IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
Hey comrade mullah Zakaria, I just checked Delta's schedule
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 3:59pm.
They have tons of flights from JFK to Mumbai.
Why don't you do us a favor and board one with a one-way ticket.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
take a hammer. you'll need
Submitted by ex buff e-dub on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 4:13pm.
take a hammer. you'll need it to pound sand
He has it ass-backwards on
Submitted by robert108 on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 4:15pm.
He has it ass-backwards on China. The only reason China is now appearing to be an economic powerhouse is due to their adoption of some free market reforms and their scaling back of govt control.
This guy is abysmally ignorant.
Congratulations for reading the entire article. I couldn't...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 5:31pm.
get past the headline. I had no idea China was in the story. I read the headline and knew we were dealing with a "kook" here.
Study others?
Submitted by IdahoJim on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 4:20pm.
The only thing that can be gleened is the failures in those economies. People come to this country in order to get away from those European economic failures.
Here's the deal Fareed, socialism, communism, and dictatorship economies, the ones where central planning and far reaching government controls are used, fail every time they are tried.
Regulated capitalism works every time it is tried. Every time.
Over-regulated, over-controlled, and over taxed capitalism still works. It just takes longer and costs more to make a profit.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
Thanks, Fareed...
Submitted by KyWriter on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 4:22pm.
...for the invitation to read your article in Time, but I wouldn't read a word you wrote in any magazine, let alone that miserable rag.
I agree. I even avoid that liberal rag in my...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 5:28pm.
Dentist's office.
This is a classic case of Liberal "Projectionism".
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 5:26pm.
This guy, from what I know about him, admires Obama. Obama is a Marxist. (He wants to redistribute everyone's wealth.) Conservatives believe the opposite of Marxists. He should have said today's Marxist movement, centered in the White House, is like the old "Marxist" movement. That would have been a true statement but he is too much of a lily-livered coward to say it.
So the Emcee of the George Soros Party on 12/7/2010 in NYC
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 06/20/2011 - 7:14pm.
finally admits that Democrats are Marxists.
The truth will even set Marxists free
Submitted by 10ksnooker on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 10:49am.
I guess his Marxist Master requires him to lie.
Which is what CNN does best, lie or obfuscate the truth.
Fareed,
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 11:04am.
CBO - "The United States’ effective marginal corporate tax rate is
relatively high for equity-financed investments but relatively
low for debt-financed investments. Thus, the extent
to which effective marginal tax rates distort decisions
about international investments depends on how the investments
are financed. For example, although the
United States’ effective marginal corporate tax rates for
equity-financed investments are higher than the average
for the other OECD countries, rates for investments financed
by a combination of debt and equity may be
lower than the average if a sufficient fraction of the investment
is financed by debt."
When the economy is questionable and the government is advocating more and more restrictions on business - what type of investments are they most likely willing to make?
Do individual companies really care what their tax burden is compared to the GDP or do they care what their tax burden is compared to their individual bottom line? A bottom line that is being hurt by political rhetoric and the pushing of a truly socialist agenda.
I will agree that it is not tax cuts alone that spark the economy and that the economy can be stimulated without tax cuts. However, the confidence needed to kick start the economy needs to be something that will really grab everyone's attention and at this time I don't know that anything other than a substantial tax cut will suffice (especially corporate taxes). It can slowly be rolled back out with simplifications in the tax code but something must first be done to demonstrate that investment and reinvestment in business is a good long term decision for investors.