Barbara Walters Gushes Over Obama's 'Enormously Courageous' Decision to Kill Bin Laden
On Wednesday's The View, ABC's Barbara Walters slobbered over the "courage, and the guts, and the coolness" of President Obama in ordering the assassination of terrorist Osama bin Laden. "It was enormously, enormously courageous," she said of the president's decision to commence the mission to kill or capture the al Qaeda leader.
"President Bush tried, President Clinton tried, but Barack Obama was the one who had the courage and the guts and the coolness," Walters said of the mission before being drowned out in applause from the audience.
Two days after she successfully politicized Osama bin Laden's death, Walters hit Sarah Palin for what she thought was Palin's politicization of the news. Palin's remark that Walters referred to was made at a benefit for soldiers in Colorado, and read "We thank our President. We thank President Bush for having made the right calls to set this victory up."
Members of The View panel questioned if Palin was marginalizing Obama's role in the mission in simply calling him "our president," or if she was referring to Bush – and thus choosing to give him all the credit. Walters, who admitted that she herself had unfairly politicized the event, chose to interpret Palin as putting fellow Republican Bush in the spotlight.
"And for us to now make this – for her to now make this a political 'Oh, forget that, it was really Bush' – I mean, [Obama] did a remarkable thing, and this is the time for us to join together and just say 'Hooray,' and not start already, as I was doing the other day, to make it a political thing," Walters ranted.
Co-host Joy Behar, meanwhile, even went so far as to say that Bush "gave up" the search for Osama bin Laden, an accusation that bears little substance. She was referencing a Bush quote from soon after 9/11 where the president said "I really just don't spend that much time on him," meaning bin Laden. Bush, however, never said that he was giving up the hunt for bin Laden.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on May 4 at 11:09 a.m. EDT is as follows:
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: At a benefit in Colorado, Sarah Palin spoke about Bin Laden's death, saying it's a testament to military dedication and quote, "We thank our President. We thank President Bush for having made the right calls to set this victory up."
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: Was the first reference to that president President Obama, or President Bush?
GOLDBERG: She never mentioned -- no. I don't know. She –
JOY BEHAR: Palin never mentioned –
SHERRI SHEPPARD: She did not mention his name –
BEHAR: She never mentioned President Obama's name. It's against her religion. (Laughter)
BARBARA WALTERS: But you know, the other day – the other day when we were on and I had just come back, after we had been talking about Osama bin Laden, I said boy I would hate to try to be the Republican candidate now. And you said, and rightly so, this is beyond politics. And it was. But at some point it's going to come down to politics again. President Bush tried, President Clinton tried, but Barack Obama was the one who had the courage and the guts and the coolness, and took that chance – (Applause).
Had this not worked out – (Crosstalk) – he would have gotten all the blame – (Crosstalk) – it was enormously, enormously courageous.
JOY BEHAR: President Bush deserves some credit in the War On Terror, definitely. But he gave up the search for Osama. He gave it up.
HASSELBECK: What do you mean he gave it up?
(Crosstalk)
BEHAR: Wait a minute. In a news conference he gave, he said "We're not thinking of him. We're done with it." He gave it up.
HASSELBECK: I would love to see that –
BEHAR: So – President Obama did not give it up, and that's why they caught him. I mean, that's a fact.
WALTERS: We're talking about Sarah Palin. And for us to now make this – for her to now make this a political "Oh, forget that, it was really Bush" – I mean he did a remarkable thing, and this is the time for us to join together and just say "Hooray," and not start already, as I was doing the other day, to make it a political thing.
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Oh, please, Babawa...
Submitted by johnsonl on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:37pm.
we all saw the photo of Obamao watching the SEALs do their thing. The Annointed One looked like he was going to vomit. Hillary looked like she soiled her boxer shorts. Neither of them has the stones for these kinds of decisions. They can't handle the truth. The world can be an ugly, violent place. Sometimes rough men have to go forth and do violence to protect us. Thank God for them.
Maybe Obambi was overruled in a 'coup'?
Submitted by tinydancer on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 7:46am.
Read the whole thing. And, there are more from the same source.
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-...
No, the smartest man in the
Submitted by dscott on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:33am.
No, the smartest man in the world and his puppet master was outwitted by people who knew better.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/9-months-16-hour...
Valerie Jarrett blocked all attempts to kill OBL and then figuring Panetta would chose his career over his country placed operational control of getting OBL in his hands. Whoops, Panetta with the support of Daley, Gates, Clinton and Petraeus chose his country and got the job done by pulling a fast one.
What we see here is Obama and Jarrett (Michelle her supporter) had no intention of getting OBL but were all too happy to keep him alive as an issue or for some other unknown reason. So the question becomes was their intent NEVER to get OBL OR was their intent to wait to the summer of 2011 when the kill would politically benefit OBAMA?
cool, calculating courage ...
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:38pm.
cool, calculating courage ... sounds like a cold blooded killer to me.
cool, calculating courage ...
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:36pm.
cool, calculating courage ... sounds like a cold blooded killer to me.
Amen cold blooded killer he
Submitted by jkwtrading on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:07pm.
Amen cold blooded killer he was and a coward too boot.
Walters
Submitted by well99 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:48pm.
Well what can you say.Guess that 16 hrs helped build up his "courage, and the guts, and the coolness" .Give me a break.Maybe we ought to give him the CMH for it.I give him credit for making the call but it wasn't his a$$ on the ground.The troops that did it took the risks and they were the ones with "courage, and the guts, and the coolness" .Walters lapdog of the left.
I take back credit for making the call.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:25pm.
I was giving this gutless bastard credit for making the call until I heard that he had to "sleep on it" for 16 HOURS before pulling the trigger!
Like my daughter said when we heard it; "How could he sleep?" Excellent question!
He had credible intel that the target was there, the team was ready to strike, and he has to "sleep on it?" Can you imagine what the SEAL team must have been thinking, having to wait, not knowing if he was even going to send them in. The chance of it all blowing up in their faces grew greater with every hour they delayed.
Meanwhile Bambi is "sleeping on it?"
The man is a gutless, rat bastard, mother frocking, cork socking, Fascist SOB! He kept these guys hanging out waiting while he had to "sleep on it." Hey Bambi, lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!
I apologize to everyone for giving him the slightest credit for not saying no to the mission when presented with the opportunity. He DID say, No, not yet. "Let me sleep on it."
Yo, Bambi! Sleep on this!
Yep---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:35pm.
and as disgusting as this pos is as Chief Executive, the brainless tools and twits who slobber over him, i.e., Walters, Lauer, et al; to me are more disgusting by far.
MD
Well
Submitted by well99 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:25pm.
I would argue with you and News but when your right.. your right.
I like the 'get the hell out
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:19pm.
I like the 'get the hell out of the way' part. This poser is the equivilent of a bus-riding bush leager in the lowest echelons of baseball...............who thinks he's a major leager, but will never get out of the bush leagues. Yet here he is - the friggin' PRESIDENT of our great (which he hates) country..........and he doesn't have ANY inherent talent, ability, courage, common sense, or vision to do anything positive about it!!
If ANY of these idiots who voted for Boy Blunder are STILL on his side, then they are ALL stupider than I thought they were - and that's saying something!!! He is a walking disaster in EVERYTHING that he does.................and the sick thing about it is, we predicted it, and it was easy to do!!!!!
LET ME c
Submitted by donabernathy on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:01pm.
OBL was unarmed and no weapons were found in the house.....
Wonder why...... the guy wasn't taken alive?
couldn't he provide intel on AQ........ or maybe we didn't want him talk'n bout what governments and officials are in Bed with the organization..... Hummmmmm.... with OBL dead a lot of secrets went with him..... yep...... takes real courage to bust a cap in the head of an unarmed man.
roflmao
As I've Read It
Submitted by JustAl on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:19pm.
No weapons were found after the US forces left (as though they would leave any, or that the dead POS's people would say anything other than "he was just peacefully minding his own business"). As to him being armed, who cares? Taken alive for what, to have a spotlight to bask in our ridiculous court system?
No one with any sense is saying the POS in DC has courage, but I take exception to your statement about the man or men who did "bust a cap" in the head of the POS in Pakistan.
Guess
Submitted by donabernathy on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:25am.
assassination is never a pretty thing. And for you to gloss over the fact that you have the opportunity to capture the number # 1 Terrorist... the big cheese.... the boogie man of all boogie men... when we are fighting a WAR on terror and this guy knows EVERYTHING...is shortsighted to say the least.
roflmao
don
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:34am.
To that I would offer that regardless of the intent of the mission -to capture or to kill- the guys on the ground had to make the snap decision on what to do. These are the best of our best, and I trust their judgement on this one. Besides, the information we're getting now about the inside of the home is coming from the Pakistanis -the same country that harbored OBL, or we're too blind to know he lived in their backyard. I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in what they're saying.
Just an observation.
But Panetta made that
Submitted by dscott on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:47am.
But Panetta made that decision so now we have to live with it. Besides, let's say we did capture OBL, the response of the terrorists would be what? Hostage taking by the hundreds if not thousands around the world in multiple incidents, each and every one of them demanding the release of OBL. And what group of terrorists would NOT want the prize of being the ones who freed OBL?
In any event, you would never get info out of OBL. What, you are going to threaten him with what? A chastising? A wet noodle? A stern talking to? The only thing that would get useful info out of him would be WATER BOARDING. And this Regime is NOT going to do that after painting themselves in a corner over the issue. So OBL only value was in being DEAD. Ironic, isn't it?
donabernathy. You obviously
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:49am.
donabernathy. You obviously have never been in the military, nor have you ever served in law enforcement have you? Your a moron.
Of what significance is the no weapons were found? It's Pakistan. Believe it or not, EVERYONE in Pakistan has a weapon. They make knock off's of every weapon you can name. Even the Barrett. For one to believe that there were no weapons in the compound takes an astonishing amount of ignorance. Or stupidity. There is no gun control in Pakistan. Pakistani's, each and every household, has at least one full automatic weapon by the door.
When the military conducts a raid, the first thing they do is move in fast and hard, shoot anything that moves after they say not to, gather any and all weapons they can find and locate to a central location, out of reach and preferably out of sight of any captives. While the captives are watched by two or three, the rest fan out to their areas of responsibility, take anything they find that may yield information, load that, any and all captured weapons, captives, if they have any, on the chopper.
Any weapons that were in that compound are in the hands of the SEAL's that conducted the operation. Mementos of a successful raid.
The no weapons found means exactly nothing. The fact that they kill Osama instead of capture him? OBL was one of those people in the world just needed killing. He would have no value as an intelligence source. He was to isolated.
Besides, the decision to capture or kill was left up to the SEAL's. I would bet you money they decided to kill him on the choppers going in, or flipped a coin on the tarmac.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
I am old school, but only a
Submitted by jkwtrading on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:07pm.
I am old school, but only a coward has someone else do THEIR KILLING then gloats about it..
It took Barry 16 hours to figure out ...
Submitted by Red Jeep on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:10pm.
...if he was gonna pull the trigger. Some courage.
Retire
Submitted by grammajane on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:16pm.
Walters, Brokaw, Rather, Scheiffer, Sawyer and Mitchell all need to retire. Their bias and leftist agendas are so dam old and stale and seriously, who even listens to them blabbing away in this day in age. We have Fox and Newsbusters and don't need these has-beens. Go retire and spend time with those who adore your elite attitudes, if you can find anybody.
Conventional Wisdom
Submitted by ctophfranko on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:45pm.
Aren't libs supposed to be all nuanced and thoughtful like, and not taken in by cheap stunts and symbolism?
I'm glad he's dead, but Bush knew that it was much more important to go after the mid-level and support in AQ than it was to waste all of our time and money on a figurehead like OBL. Obama doesn't care about actually winning the war, and only uses the OBL deal as a chance for a distraction and score some political points.
Bull$hit
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:25pm.
Bush had the courage, guts, and coolness, to kill Bin Laden. However, Bush had a press who thwarted him at every turn and was only to anxious to reveal any intelligence about Bin Laden in order to hurt Bush.
"Bush had a press who
Submitted by ckc1227 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:47pm.
"Bush had a press who thwarted him at every turn and was only to anxious to reveal any intelligence about Bin Laden in order to hurt Bush."
Not to mention a democrat party.
Courage
Submitted by Time Will Tell on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:25pm.
If George Bush had ordered the killing of that coward he would have been velified by those half wits. The real heroes are those fighting men and women who have defended this country since 911. Without these fighters and the ones from the begining of this Great Republic they would not be able to spew their view.
potato,s
Submitted by scarletandgold on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:38pm.
who cares what the twits on the view say...they do not count anymore
I think Obama did the right
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:42pm.
I think Obama did the right thing. But that was it. It was not any decision at all, it had to be done, by anyone who held the office.
So I give him credit for saying, "go ahead". But I think that even if it failed, it would have not been politically bad. This was a Navy Seal job, they wanted in, they trained for this. If it did not work the ramifications would be minimal at most.
The President did not kill him, the President did not do the heavy lifting, the military did. The military is barely being mentioned. What American would not have done the exact same thing that Obama did. GMAFB
They act as if Obama suited up, got off his golf course, and flew in and did the deeds himself. Obama seems to be even taking less credit than all of his Kool-Aid drinkers are. Walters is a shill. Hasselback is a wall-flower that never chimes in.
Obama did nothing remarkable....the Navy Seals did. I am not sure if the MSM even thinks they did the deeds.
Yes, Tom ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:32pm.
... but most Americans would have said "GO" 15 hours and 59 minutes sooner than Bambi.
16 Hrs
Submitted by ctophfranko on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:52pm.
Did he leak this little bit of info to make him seem like a deep thinking good progressive? What benefit would come from us knowing this? Also why tell the part about how Osama resisted, when he didn't only to tell later that he wasn't armed? All of these questions make what should be a simple job well done into yet another example of incompetence or worse.
Minor correction
Submitted by Model850 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 5:05pm.
... but most Americans would have said "GO" 15 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds sooner than Bambi.
Major addendum to your minor correction..
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 7:51pm.
If his campaign pronouncements are an indication, at least one American, John McCain, would have first asked Pakistani President Zardari or Prime Mininster Gilani if we could "pretty please have permission to intrude upon Mr. bin Laden's privacy", which would most likely have elicited a reply along the lines of "we will be happy to check with Mr. bin Laden and see if he is available to entertain guests."
McCain was a stickler regarding the inviolability of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan's sovereignty.
Jer
Ok Jer, now you are just
Submitted by dscott on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:46pm.
Ok Jer, now you are just being mean. :-(
Consistency when brought too far is rigid thinking. Even the dork McCain I believe would have taken the risk to get OBL in Pakistan, but then again would OBL even be in Pakistan in a house versus in a cave when Bush was POTUS? Would have OBL felt safe enough to leave the cave with McCain as POTUS????
Hi Jer
Submitted by Model850 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 2:16pm.
OK, I'll accept your point but with the proviso that the statement did say most, not all.
Not exactly sure what you hoped to accomplish by bringing the irrelevant McCain into the discussion -- again -- but it's all good. No harm, no foul as they say.
And despite everything else (Obama "getting" bin Laden and Bush's hand in that success) there is that niggling little fact that the US did violate a sovereign nation's borders. Personally I couldn't care less (remember that thread? ;^D) but it is kind of the elephant in the room, no?
Well, Model...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 2:24pm.
I think it's highly relevant to remind those who insist Obama deserves little or no credit for bin Laden's demise that had McCain been elected--and adhered to his campaign position regarding Pakistan--it is quite likely that bin Laden would still be alive and finalizing his plans to blow up American trains.
Jer
There you go again!!
Submitted by briefsynopsis on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 4:15pm.
So what are you a full time paid Democrat oposition poster?
you seem to have waaaaaaay to many posts, using the same tactic,.....
........come to a conclusion of your choosing from the post or comment and make someone defend!
you post too much, too often to have a real job!
At some point, you will either grow up and realize life is not a game,.... or write a book and be richly rewarded by your progressive socialist buddies,...
my turn.
Which do you think it will be?????????????
Lately, the only weapon this
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:53pm.
Lately, the only weapon this fool has had is a golf club. It took trained, BRAVE SpecOps guys to grease that POS.
Like those cows on the View do anything themselves.
just what we need
Submitted by Vonu on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:07pm.
this dweeb getting a taste for blood. Genius has learned war is the health of the state. And who loves the state more than O? NB was drooling over the prospect of a trillion dollar a year war effort, meet your hyperinflationist!
Good one Barbara
Submitted by Boil It Down on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:10pm.
She was being sarcastic....right? Lord I hope so. -bidn-
Toto I don't think we are in Kansas anymore
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:17pm.
Our accidental President was merely the man occupying the oval office when the CIA clearly had Osama Bin Laden in their sights. Not quite sure where Ms Walters sees the coolness and courage in this guy. His part in this is more akin to Dorothy taking out the wicked witch of the east when the house landed on her in the "Wizard of Oz".
It can even be argued the 16 hour delay he imposed on the mission was an uneccesary delay that fortunately for the country did not jeopardize the mission.
The double standard in the media is also on full display as we all know full well, if President Bush ordered an operation like this in Pakistan, the entire Democrat Media Establishment would be calling him an international criminal.
Obama has his Iwo Jima moment and is in perfect postion to deliver a knock out blow to Islamic radicals while sending a clear message to peace loving muslems that fundamentalism is on the run, but its looking more and more like he and is team are making us slaves to political correctness yet again. God Help Us.
Picture this a day in December.... or May even..........
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:17pm.
This just in.................
The WH will be releasing the photo's of Barack H Obama with his eye paint, bandana and Cammies when he was courageous, courageous I tell you in sitting in his comfy chair while watching with a real look of concern his errr, my errrrr I I I Me Me Me errr our troops take out an unarmed or possibly armed coward who may or may not have been hiding behind his girlfriend or wife who was killed or simply just shot in the leg while his hands were up or reaching for a gun.
The latest version at 11:00
Oh This Is Getting Really Interesting
Submitted by Bourbeau on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:34pm.
Now Drudge is reporting that CIAs Panetta is admitting that the Presidents team did not watch the takeout live - there was a 20-25 minute blackout where they saw nothing. Additionally, that photo showing them all so engrossed in watching the Seals in action was STAGED!!!! Again, they were unable to see anything. Come to think of it, I was wondering who was coordinating the "live" feed from 20 plus helmet cameras, that had to be some show. Also from Panetta, the President didn't order Bin Laden killed; it was left up to the Seals to decide how to handle it. I have no regrets about Osama getting two in the head; he deserved and we're all better off for it. However, contrary to the orgiinal scenario offered - fire fight, Osama resisted reaching for a weapon, the female charged the Seals, etc., is all looking kind of fishy just about now. So far there has been no evidence produced showing any weapons in the compound; there's no evidence of a fire fight; they've admitted Bin Laden was unarmed; and yet several end up killed and wounded. Here's my question: if this were an incident in Afghanistan or Iraq, and an Army, Marine or Special Forces team took out an entire house without even the hint of weapon or resistence, what would be happening to that team? Does the word court martial ring a bell. There's something fishy going on here w/this story, and the administration needs to come clean as to what the objective was, what the orders were, and who knew what when.
What to believe?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:56pm.
It's easy enough now that I can safely say I don't believe anything this WH has to say, but now it's gotten to where I say "I don't know what NOT to believe!"
This has been smelling fishy from the beginning on Sunday night and the smell is getting worse.
That's why I said elsewhere, I don't care what happened to bin Laden if he's really dead or not, but these people in the WH need to be removed ASAP.
-Jon
Jon
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:27pm.
It's getting weirder by the minute, it seems. Personally, I believe ObL is fish food; there's too many people to silence for the truth not to get out otherwise. There's nearly 6000 crew on CVN70; no way they keep all those sailors quiet. But now Panetta is saying there was a 25 minute blackout in the video feed during what they so far claim to be a 40 minute operation. That's probably the 25 minutes they were inside the house.
So what that means is the famous photo released by the White House on the Flickr photostream showing the angst of those watching what we were told was the live video stream, was likely staged.
What that means to me is that there's something we're not being told. It could be something the libs in the White House might consider objectionable, like we actually did wipe out a crew of sleeping and unarmed residents, or something more complicated that I can't quite put my finger on yet, but regardless, the fist-bumping, chest-thumping, bravado initially showed now seems to be in jeopardy of being forever tainted.
bravado indeed
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:58pm.
This is one of those situations that I rely on my instincts when information of any kind is in question, like when something feels wrong or right, and from the outset, I kept feeling something was wrong about all this(still am), the celebration/jubilation didn't feel right. I know I said that I wouldn't be as jubilant, and wouldn't begrudge anyone either, but it still doesn't feel right. This is not a judgmental thing either, it's more of a sense thing.
Supposedly there were pictures and a video of the burial at sea, but did the ship's captain say "This is UBL, we're burying him at sea" and on video? Or is it just a silent(no audio) of some body being released into the sea? I've been searching a little, but there hasn't been a whole lot coming from the Carl Vinson other than what the administration has told us.
I also wonder that they decided not to release the picture because it might have been digitally manipulated and they realized that the birth certificate the WH released was scrutinized to actually be a fake(even though they still say it's real, but that's not an issue I want to bring up, just pointing something out) and are avoiding the same scrutiny which might discover something. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there.
If they want us to believe all of this, they are going to have to break out a sh!tload of proof and I mean irrefutable and incontrovertible proof. It would have to be on the scale that was done for the Hussein brothers and their father Saddam. Maybe more.
If not, this has been one HUGE gross stunt.
If it's proven, then as you say, there's something else going on.
Trying to figure all this crap out makes for a wonderful headache.
-Jon
Jon, there should be no doubt
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:13pm.
They got JACK for proof. They have changed their story several times, and have squat to show. Many folks have assumed him dead for years.
A lot of this stinks, and these clowns expect us to believe them,,,, why? Because of their transparency in the past!
I think Obama is campaigning and taking polls. Got me?
Here's a long list of inconsistencies
Submitted by ckc1227 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:13pm.
"Usually when governments use misinformation, they use it to make themselves look good. The Obama Administration gets points for originality, insofar as it’s been using disinformation and misinformation to make itself look arbitrary, unlawful, helpless and stupid."
Bookworm Room
Boudin,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:19pm.
Thanks.
For a while there, I thought I was cracking up for not swallowing the government line on all this.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
His whole presidency has been nothing but a nonstop photo-op,
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:07pm.
with the MSM writing the screenplay.
I'm not in the least surprised that this, too, was staged.
Given the Mass Confusion and Multiple Contradictory Stories
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:52pm.
Coming out of the WH after the raid I wonder if Obama was even in on the decision to kill Osama. He and his spokesman seem confused and not to know what is going on. Paneta seems the only one to have a straight story. Maybe Paneta made the decision.
Barbara Walters is an incredibly stupid and naive person so her praise of Obama doesn't mean anything. At most Obama probably just confirmed with a "yes" when presented with the desired plan.
Babs-
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:07pm.
dear, you need to understand that this type of mission is not unique in the war on terror. In fact, it's not even unique to Pakistan. The Bush administration used JSOC raids into Pakistan, Syria and other countries at the same time many democrats were castigating them for the use of just such tactics.
I posted this link in another thread, but it's worth reading for anyone who missed it. The NYT dedicated two reporters, 1685 words and page A1 to profile the “Al Qaeda Network Exord,” a 2004 Executive Order that authorized these types of clandestine operations.
Yeah, obama is a real tought
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:50pm.
Yeah, obama is a real tought guy. If memory serves I believe clinton passed on the offer to remove bid laden.
Clinton tried?
Submitted by nkviking75 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:19pm.
Clinton tried? Isn't he the one who passed up a couple of opportunities to kill Osama when he knew where the creep was?
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
→ Of course Clinton tried
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:28pm.
He tried to make a decision, but he just couldn't decide whether it would help him politically or not.
I was gonna say
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:31pm.
Help him get his w33ni3 w3t.
Yeah, Obama really had a lot
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:34pm.
Yeah, Obama really had a lot to do with this mission. It was his strength, brilliance, talents, education and training that led to the killing of Usama. My God, how did the Armed Forces, CIA and FBI ever get along without the anointed one and his big-boned wife?
Halleluja. With Obama, America can now take down China, N. Korea, Syria...
Every single woman on this show...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:47pm.
with the exception of Hasselbeck, has a not-so-secret, major case of the hots over Obama, and they use just about every opportunity to swoon over him. Barbara Walters is particularly egregious in this behavior, epsecially considering the fact that she used to be, way back in the day, a serious journalist, something that she has long since abandoned. As a result, Ms. Walters has unfortunately descended to the point to where she has become a pathetic, leftist media hack.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Babs Walters is a lowly whore
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:57pm.
Babs Walters is a lowly whore that had an affair with a married Senator. The woman has no morals and disgusts most of her viewers. It s also in her MO to prefer black men so that would explain why she gets all 'flush' in the face every time she utters the Obama name. Nothing wrong with that except for them being married. That is so wrong..
But she is not a racist.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:26am.
Sleeping with a married black man proves that, just like Stanley Ann Dunham.
Agreed, except...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 3:04pm.
that I wouldn't say that Walters disgusts most of her viewers...This idiotic show continues (how I'll never understand) to have good ratings. If viewers had enough of an issue with Babs, my guess is they wouldn't be tuning in in the numbers that they are. Maybe the draw is the other hosts, who are just as bad, imho...The whole "The View" thing escapes me and always has, and as for Ms. Walters, she's a ridiculous, pathetic leftist apologist and shameless Obama shill.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Are you kidding me, Babs?
Submitted by ckc1227 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:04pm.
""President Bush tried, President Clinton tried, but Barack Obama was the one who had the courage and the guts and the coolness," Walters said.
Courage? Umm, last I checked, Bush took a nation to war in an effort to capture/kill Osama. Obama's "courage" had nothing to do with it. He was killed that day because we finally had a chance, and Obama got the hell out of the way despite trying to muck it up, not because no one before Obama had the courage to do it.
I know it's wrong, but geez, I really really hate liberals.
Nothing wrong with hating
Submitted by pitter43 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:01pm.
Nothing wrong with hating liberals, they want America destroyed.
Walter gushing is
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:07pm.
good enough reason to put my eyes out and add joyless to the mix and you've got the next nightmare on elm street.
Why don't they just have their sports division cover it?
Submitted by Chris Norman on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:47pm.
The hardly veiled subtext in all this is the media collectively rejoicing, "Hallelujah! Obama has in just one action (and with our help) inoculated himself against Republican charges of indecisiveness and weakness during the next election!" They have cheapened what should be a serious and profound event, reducing it to just a several point gain by their team's quarterback in a political football game. That's what media coverage has become...
Bush's actions laid the groundwork for Sunday's events
Submitted by nkviking75 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:12am.
What would have happened if we'd have been stuck with President Gore on 9/11? Who knows if we would have pursued Obama, let alone killed him? I seriously doubt that Sunday's events would have come about without George W. Bush having been President?
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
No courage at all
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 6:56am.
Obama had no choice but to go ahead with the takedown. If he nixed it, and that decision ever became public knowledge, his political career would be over.
And it took him 16 HOURS to figure that out for himself. That tells me he's either terminally dim-witted, or he was extremely opposed to the idea of pulling the trigger, and could only bring himself to do it after he realized the political necessity.
So what do you think of THAT analysis, Baba?
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
I'm afraid it's a bit weak, HK...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:32pm.
"WE WILL KILL BIN LADEN. WE WILL CRUSH AL-QAEDA. THAT HAS TO BE OUR BIGGEST NATIONAL SECURITY PRIORITY." [Barack Obama - August, 2008]
Jer
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:38pm.
Then why the delay in deciding to go with the mission? Rhetorical question, unless you have a line to BO that we don't. I still believe he made it as a political decision. I find it hard to believe Obama does much decision making without considering how it will affect his polls.
Although I strongly disagreed with W on some issues, I truly believe his decisions were based on what he truly believed was best for the country.
Radical...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:25pm.
I have yet to see any evidence that the operation was in fact delayed. It has been reported that the earliest it could have been commenced was Saturday but bad weather forced a one-day postponement. [Now, it may be that the Saturday "go" date was the result of Obama''s waiting until Friday to okay the mission, but, if that's the case, it's news to me.]
In any event there were enormously important issues which needed careful consideration irrespective of the mission's outcome, most notably the reaction of the Pakistani government to being left out of the loop regarding a US military operation inside its borders. Even if successful it could create additional tensions in our relationship with the Pakistanis, and if the mission ended in failure, the repercussions might be catastrophic.
So, even though all of the tactical elements may have been in place, the strategic concerns associated with unilateral action demanded a very measured and thorough deliberation. And it may well have been those concerns which prompted Obama to sleep on it. Absolute secrecy had been maintained for months. I think it reasonable to assume it could be maintained for a few more hours.
Jer
In my opinion, Obama "slept" on it---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:10pm.
because he is a dilly-dallying, inept empty suit.
Absolute operational secrecy, regardless of how long it had been maintained, immediately started shedding minutes and gaining odds for discovery once Team Six was in their deployment location near Bin Ladens' compound.
I doubt it is a reasonable assumption that the "secrecy" aspect could be considered inviolate for any specified length of time.
MD
So what you are saying Jer is
Submitted by dscott on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:41pm.
So what you are saying Jer is Obama's statement in 2008 expired at some point between then and now? Another documented statement with an expiration date...
What happened to the Obama of 2008 almost 3 years later? I say blame Valerie Jarrett who kept advising him not to kill OBL. A smart move on his part is to dump Jarrett and let Daley run the show.
On the other hand as a Republican, please keep Jarrett since she continues to make Obama look stupid and weak. pssst, we considered putting her on the payroll, she's that good.
That's right, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:52pm.
We can always be sure that Barack Obama follows through on his campaign promises.
True, CX...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:32pm.
There have been a number of unfulfilled and/or abandoned campaign promises. But I can't think of a single case where it resulted in a "softer' stance on anti-terrorism policy.
Jer
The point is
Submitted by 26CX on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:19pm.
I don't think it's right to pick and choose among many campaign promises kept and not kept and point to the one that prophesizes current events.
At the time it was made, there was nothing to distinguish the veracity of his pledge to go after Bin Laden from the veracity of his pledge to close Gitmo. At the time they were like all other campaign promises: motivated by expediency in an attempt to convince voters to vote for him.
The death of Bin Laden is the result of a system that was put in place long before Obama was elected. Obama gets credit for (apparently) not interfering with the operation of that system and for having the good sense to take advantage of the opportunity to eliminate the man responsible for the deaths of so many innocent people.
Any praise beyond that falls into the same line of thinking that resulted in Obama being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
Disagree Jer*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:32pm.
Do not enforce immigration laws. File lawsuits against states that attempt to protect their borders themselves. Cancel all funding for a security border fence. Engage in a stupid "gunrunner" program that gets your own people killed. Spew the lie that returning soldiers are a threat but radical mosques and Imams are no threat. Release Gitmo prisoners and give them American citizenship. And then deny border security is a problem even though this administration is well aware of this situation.
Doesn't sound to me that these policies are "tough" stance on anti-terrorism, man made disasters or whatever is the new code words.
cajun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:47pm.
Agreed.
Indeed.
MD
cajun & dean
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 2:08am.
"Delusion Effusion Collusion"
Jer
Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 3:10am.
"Democ-rats, Plutoc-rats, Wharf-rats"
While Obama works to deceive,
his liberal minions believe,
that tis better to lie, cheat and steal,
than to work for the betterment,
of the common weal.
MD
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 1:04am.
16 hours give me a break.Obama also said he would have the most transparent administration.I can go on if you wish on Obama creditability.He never met a lie he didn't like.If it benefited him.
well99...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 1:44am.
if the Sixteen Hour Delay is really a point of contention, the details and the dimensions of the dispute will be fully disclosed and exhaustively analyzed sooner or later
Regarding the controversy raised by the reporting of the mysterious White House "Insider", I attach about the same degree of credibility to his version of events as I would to the paranoid yarns of a Lyndon LaRouche.
Once the "Insider" learned that he had unwittingly woven a tale of undeniable treason in his initial submission, he hastily filed an amendment with an altered scenario in order to pull his nuts out of that fire. The guy's a joke and most likely completely fictional.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 4:14am.
As far as the insider..well reminds me of the msm anonymous sources.As far as taking 16 hours.Obama deserves the Give Me A Flocking Break Award.He is suppose to be a leader.You got troops ready to put it on the line to get Osama and you need to "sleep on it". No excuse.I think he did a packet check and came up empty.
Jer
Submitted by Model850 on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 2:29pm.
I dunno, Jer. It seems weak also to hang your hat on campaign rhetoric despite the success of recent events.
Sure, that particular bit of rhetoric worked out to Obama's advantage. Can you say serendipity?
Others here already have pointed out numerous other bits of his rhetoric that haven't quite gone as well.
Now, do ALL politicians engage in campaign rhetoric. Duh. I'm just saying it seems a little below your ably demonstrated debating skills to rely on something as mutable and self-serving as campaign speeches.
That being said, Yes, Obama most assuredly was more forceful than McCain during the campaign. Point Obama/Jer.
; ^ )
Gosh, Model...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 3:12pm.
I don't know whether to feel gratified or embarrassed at having earned a point despite an inferior performance. I think I'll opt for gratitude.
Thanks.
Jer
You're welcome
Submitted by Model850 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 1:39pm.
And no need to feel any embarrassment.
Just be mindful that the point was awarded despite your "inferior performance," based solely on the fact that although "Obama was more forceful" during the campaign is a weak basis for your argument, it is nonetheless true.
How can you not rate at least a shared point with Obama for being factual?
; ^ )
McCain dithered like a doddering old fellow---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 10:14pm.
when campaigning.
Obama stockpiled his dithering until he could put it to good use once he attained the Oval Office.
MD
The Obama
Submitted by John21 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 7:57am.
The only reason that everyone is so impressed with the "One" is because no one thought he had the gonads to do anything right.
The hypoctisy of the left is way beyond belief but, they are hoping the 52%ers will forget how bad everything else he has done and remember the one incident of intelligence in this adminastration.
He will be back to kissing up to the far left, the unions and of course the arabs in just a little while and than rejion his agenda of spending your grandchildrens money to pay off his supporters.
gonads to do anything right???
Submitted by donabernathy on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:45am.
Hummmmmm ya got the opportunity to Capture the #1 terrorist...the guy that knows EVERYTHING....and we are in a WAR on terror..... and capture isn't even a consideration.... naw... it's bust a cap n his head and let him sleep with the fishes...... Yep that's the right move... thanks Barry... I really enjoy being groped and radiated at the airport.... my e mails read... phone calls intercepted.... suspension of habeas corpus and all the other regulations..cause we at war...even opening a new bank account requires an act of congress now...... IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY DON'T WANT THE WAR ON TERROR TO END.......!!!!!!!!!
roflmao
Since Maobama has lied about everything....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:08pm.
with the notable exception of "under my plan, energy costs will necessarily skyrocket", I won't believe he's dead 'til I see the picture.
My opinion is that obama only
Submitted by pitter43 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 11:55am.
My opinion is that obama only made that decision because if he didn't, his career as a politician would have been completely over, as if it wasn't already. I see him as a terrorist sympathizer and that's the last thing he wanted. Can you imagine the reaction if he'd followed his heart and let Bin Laden live?
I wish I'd have said this. I
Submitted by pitter43 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:00pm.
I wish I'd have said this. I saw somewhere else that president Bush fired the bullet but it just took a long time to reach it's target. If obama had had his way, the bullet would have never been fired.
TRANSFORMERS, MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE
Submitted by pcnav on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 7:58pm.
I love to watch the Bush era anti-warriors turn into blood thirsty doves. I don't even believe that they realize just how hypocritical they look with all this Obama love.
You know what Barbara?
Submitted by GONAVY on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 10:01am.
Enormously courageous, certainly has reached a new low. Enormously courageous are the passengers on Flight 93, those fireman and police that ran into the burning towers, that's courageous. You people sicken me.