Joy Behar Exploits Birther Debate to Slam Swift Boat Vet 'Lies'
Apparently, the Left will never get over John Kerry's loss in the 2004 presidential election. On Thursday's Joy Behar Show, Joy Behar used a discussion of the "birther" claims against Barack Obama to slam what she called the "lies" of the Swift Boat veterans, who challenged Kerry's account of his service in Vietnam.
"Does this treatment remind you of the swift-boating that went on when John Kerry was running? ...These people make up a lie, they continue the lie, they perpetuate the lie, and then people start to believe it. They destroyed Kerry," Behar ranted to a liberal guest, Columbia University professor Marc Lamont Hill.
In smearing the anti-Kerry veterans, Behar is following in the steps of many others in the liberal media. Back in 2008, then-New York Times reporter Deborah Solomon (NYT Magazine, August 3, 2008) berated Boone Pickens for financially backing the group four years earlier: "You help re-elect Bush in '04 when you gave $3 million to the Swift Boat campaign to discredit John Kerry's Vietnam service. Do you regret your involvement?"
Pickens: "Why would I?"
Solomon: "Because it's such an ugly chapter in American political history."
Pickens: "Oh, I see. Well, it was true. Everything that went into those ads was the truth."
Solomon: "Really? I thought it was all invented."
In a June 30, 2008 article, New York Times reporter Kate Zernike declared: "'Swift-boat' has become the synonym for the nastiest of campaign smears, a shadow that hangs over the presidential race as pundits wait to proclaim that the swift-boating has begun and candidates declare that they will not be swift-boated....The new meaning of swift-boat stings worst for the men who served with Mr. Kerry, who say that, by implication, the attacks tarnished their military decorations."
And indeed, earlier that year, (Today, February 19, 2008), NBC's Matt Lauer commiserated with then-candidate Barack Obama about what dirty tricks the GOP might pull on him: "Have you stopped to think what the Obama version of swift-boating might be in this campaign cycle if you get to the general election? What they did to John Kerry, what's that version going to be with Barack Obama?"
It's more accurate to describe "swift-boat" as a term employed by the liberal media tactic to disparage an uncomfortable line of inquiry as disreputable rather than engaging the argument on its merits. After all, Kerry could conceivably have ended the Swift Boat discussion in 2004 by releasing his military records in full. Instead, he chose to evade the debate and refused to open his files – with his obstruction aided by media figures who chose to protect a liberal candidate rather than fulfill their professional obligation to seek answers to legitimate questions.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on April 28 at 10:01 p.m. EDT, is as follows:
JOY BEHAR: President Obama released his birth certificate, proving Donald Trump wrong. Yet Trump still claims victory. Can you believe it? Can you believe this?
(...)
BEHAR: Yes, but wait a minute. Wait a minute. Now he`s coming out with the credentials about Harvard, Marc. How racist do you think that is?
(...)
MARC LAMONT HILL, cultural anthropologist, Columbia University: All this is about is Donald Trump attempting to gin up the tin foil hat-wearing people in the American populace who happen to be racist. And there`s a lot of them left. And he knows what he can do with them because it draws attention and expands his brand.
BEHAR: Ok. Is this -- does this remind you of the swift-boating that went on when John Kerry was running?
LAMONT HILL: It`s the same thing.
BEHAR: These people make up a lie, they continue the lie, they perpetuate the lie, and then people start to believe it. They destroyed Kerry.
DONNY DEUTSCH, TV host: Look, the reason people question why Obama at this point, because he had this trump card -- no pun intended -- to play for a long time. It was the first time the polls were shown to the independents because of Trump, who started to pay a little attention to this.
BEHAR: Don`t you think he`s dangerous? Trump is dangerous.
(CROSSTALK)
DEUTSCH: The good news we have in this world, there`s also a dark underbelly to it, is that we have this 24/7 over-mediaized society. So the truth -- I don`t know if the Swift Boat thing if it came out today where the Internet is today versus -- we`ve had dramatic differences even in the last six and eight and ten years. We self-correct fairly fast today.
So the good news is we are a democratic policing, self-policing media society at this point and it does backfire.
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Get this straight, Joy,
Submitted by HockeyKid on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:28pm.
you twisted excuse for a commentator: the only person who destroyed John eFfin' Kerry is John eFfin' Kerry. He and he alone is responsible for his Walter Mitty "military career" and the fallout from being found out. He is a walking coward who ran out on his fellow warriors, then turned on them when he came home, and finally tried to wrap himself in their glory for his own political gain.
That you would defend him shows only that you and Rosie O'Donnell are equally ignorant.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Yet neither Behar nor her
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:30pm.
Yet neither Behar nor her cohorts can prove Swift Boat veterans were lying. So their accusations are acceptable in their eyes whether or not they have any basis in fact. Typical.
Why would you believe 206
Submitted by kg on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 5:35pm.
Why would you believe 206 first hand accounts when you can believe one Democrat. A Democrat trumps the truth any day.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
I was thinking the same
Submitted by octavioj on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:15am.
When I first read this article I thought to myself "were they proven wrong"? And as far as I can tell there was never anything concrete to say they were wrong. It is indeed just Senator Kerry's word against all of theirs. I thought I had missed something but apparently not. Thank you kg.
Fragging
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:36pm.
Kerry is forntunate to have gotten out of 'Nam alive.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
shrapnel wounds
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:39pm.
Yeah, he barely survived those rice shrapnel wounds he received from firing his grenade launcher willy-nilly. Or is that slick willy?
-Jon
Joy being the expert and all.....
Submitted by Tomorama on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:42pm.
As a vet I detest saying something bad about a fellow vet as he did serve the country.
BUT, the folks said and did this for good reasons and I give them the benefit of the doubt as Kerry has proven to be nothing but an OPPORTUNIST at everything he has ever done.
WHO THE Fudge,,,,,,,,, goes back and recreates supposed war scenes AFTER THE FACT and films the phoniness?
Only a phony would and sorry, the medals and ribbons thing, I have ribbons and medals and I can't get passed that either.
The hammering of the folks that were still there in harms way, NEVER FORGIVABLE.
NEVER EVER.
I'm on that bus
Submitted by HockeyKid on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:52pm.
I had the good fortune to serve in one of the few peace times at the end of the Cold War, and I despise Kerry for his treatment of my brothers in arms and his own self-serving antics. We exist on the backs of those who truly sacrificed on the field of battle, so Kerry fronting himself as one of those heroes is akin to leaving a steaming pile on the Vietnam Memorial.
If he had just humbly accepted his role in the war and given credit to those who sacrificed far more, he'd have been held in very high regard. So his fate is his fault and his fault alone.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
John Kerry and Winter Soldier investigation.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 1:11am.
John Kerry testimony: They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
Nothing like presenting 3rd hand lies in front of Congress.
Behar compares Palin to jock itch
Submitted by im41 on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:49pm.
can you believe this b1tch?
No wonder
Submitted by HockeyKid on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 4:57pm.
Joy is so sympatico with the LGBT community. If (s)he knows how jock itch feels, that certainly raises some questions about her personal history.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
'Florida 2000'
Submitted by Slyrr on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 5:37pm.
Want to see a lib go into a frothing frenzy? Want to see them collapse on the spot and start twitching on the floor in fits of rage? Just speak those two magical words - 'Florida 2000' (throw in 'election' if they're too dim to get it on the first try).
So Joyless hasn't got over Dryball Kerry's defeat, eh? Typical. The left never gets over ANY of their defeats. Because they're a proud bunch of stubborn, fierce and violently stiffnecked idealogues. They NEVER think they ever lose at anything. If they are ever beaten, they say it was because 'the other side cheated' or, 'they're just too stupid to realize how brilliant we are'.
But their defeats fester within them like snarling animals, ripping their insides to shreds. They probably wake up every night in cold sweats screaming 'hanging chads!' over and over again until they faint, choking on their own bile.
So it's no surprise that Joyless is doing the fully awake equivilant every day on her so-called 'show'.
This election WILL indeed be the nastiest and most racist election ever. Because the left will make it so. They'll scream 'racism' at every debate, at every meeting, and ever liberal leftist new tool will be invoking Florida 2000 as the excuse for their hate and their bias.
I really think you should
Submitted by buttercup815 on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 5:55pm.
I really think you should stop holding back.Let it all out. Holding back that much anger cannot be good for you.
Doesn't seem to work for liberals, buttercup---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 6:39pm.
as they spew nastiness round the clock, and yet remain nastily up tight, even after erupting like Vesuvius.
Must be some type of exponential growth thing; maybe a synergistic type phenomenon.
MD
Hey, if I'm wrong here I'll
Submitted by Slyrr on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 7:57pm.
Hey, if I'm wrong here I'll accept correction. I may have used colorful exaggerations, but I'll wager they're not far removed from reality.
After Kerry lost, there were reports of mourning Democrats and leftists, and they even gave themselves a stupid name for their grief and despair, saying they suffered from 'Post Election Stress Trauma' (PEST).
And of course, there was the usual bevvy of libutard celebrities who frothed and raged on camera and in print that 'they were leaving the country forever' because Bush won.
Of course, being liberals, they were lying. Would that they HAD left the country, as they boasted they would. Then maybe Obama would have lost in 2008 and the country wouldn't be in nearly as big a mess.
You are correct, Slyrr---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:48pm.
buttercup lives in la-la land with the unicorns and the rest of the libs.
MD
Ughh...
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 11:17pm.
I could ne wrong… But I think “Buttercup” was being sarcastic.
Apologies if I’m mistaken.
- Grump :o)
Could be, Grumpy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 4:12am.
it is easily overlooked at times.
MD
Behar should interview Adm. William Schachte
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 5:55pm.
NBC's Lisa Myers, on occasion, does some of the best - and most needed spots - that network news has to offer. She did it on Katrina - offering up facts and backroom details of how pathetic Gov. Blanco had performed, and she did it here on Kerry's problem, interviewing one of Kerry's superior officers. Of course, the real problem, is that the rest of the national media made sure that the story go no further.
A few highlights:
Myers: …are you saying that John Kerry accidentally injured himself?
Schachte: Yes. Clear-- of course, it was an accident.
Myers: That there was no enemy fire?
Schachte: There was no enemy fire – no after- action report, no muzzle flashes – nothing. No return fire from the beach at all.
Myers: So, in your view, he did not deserve the Purple Heart?
Schachte: That's what I told my commanding officer at the time.
Good stuff.
(;~> gary
I Believe
Submitted by JamPony on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 8:34pm.
The Admiral (IS A LIAR).
I mean even though he donated money to the Bush campaign I am sure he is a very honest person.
And everybody here believes
Submitted by NC Cop on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 8:52pm.
And everybody here believes YOU'RE a liar. So I guess it evens out, huh?
I don't believe he is a liar
Submitted by TheHistorian on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:57pm.
I believe that he is worse than that. He is a dupe.
Dennis Prager
Jam Pony - the Admiral..
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 3:07am.
The national media was out in force defending Kerry. The Admiral's testimony was damning, to say the least.
If the national media would have believed that he might be lying, they would have gone after him. Instead, they didn't touch it.
That tells me that they wanted his testimony to disappear.
(;~/ gary
Women never forget a slight,
Submitted by almostacowboy on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 6:26pm.
either real or imagined. Ugly women more so.
That is true almostacowboy*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 6:35pm.
Even if the slight was unintentional. As you can see here even guys are sensitive to imagined slights
Now, lets talk about the definition of ugly
Why worry about what Joyless
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 7:18pm.
Why worry about what Joyless says. She only had 350,000 viewers. I judge all shows like hers based on the WNBA. She is well below that.
If Behar could read, she might try the Washington Post . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 7:23pm.
. . . investigative report that concluded that depsite Kerry's many claims to have been up the Mekong River into Cambodia, he was never there. And the heaviest evidence was Kerry's own diary.
The Swift Boat guys weren't what sunk Kerry; Kerry's arrogance sunk himself.
So....
Submitted by JamPony on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 8:30pm.
The Swift Boaters weren't found out to be liars?
Joy did this now
Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:20pm.
because she knows Corsi's book comes out soon. This pre- damage control.
It isn't going to help.
As for not getting over the 2000 and 2004 elections, they are really going to have a tough time seeing Soetoro ousted - Carter style.
These people have no brains
Submitted by jaywl on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:32pm.
Trying to make people like Behar wake up is a waste of time. My Grandmother used to say "Jay, you can't convince a cockroach that the sky is blue." Well, not really, but same thing with a mind like Behar's. Facts don't matter, the truth gets lost in opinion. And they don't care. Tonight on BOR Geraldo the Great said the Alamo was a great victory for the United States and a terrible loss for the Mexicans. I count three mistakes or, as the lefties would say, LIES LIES in the two statements. Geraldo is intelligent so how can he make statements like these? He was trying to explain to Bill that different peoples have different histories.But facts are facts. Where they get tangled is when they decide to have their own facts.
Kerry was most definitely "swiftboated"
Submitted by TheHistorian on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 9:52pm.
However, the only liar that was identified in this whole affair was John F. Kerry. Remember how he said that "Nixon" had sent him to Cambodia in December of 1968. However, Nixon wasn't even the President in December 1968.
He proved himself a sad, little, man with that whole affair. And Joy Behar continues to prove herself among the stupidest of a large group of stupid liberals. She cannot even shut her yap on a comparison that shows that she doesn't even remember the issue or who was the liar.
Dennis Prager
Little correction there sir.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:36am.
He heard Nixon on Christmas of 1968, before Nixon was sworn in. Yeah, first time ever they carried an incumbant's press conferance on Armed Forces Radio Network, denying he put troops in another country. I would hope not, they still have a President to do that.
In March 1986, Kerry said, during a speech on the Senate floor, that, "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me...."
NIXON PRESS CONFERENCE, November 1971: PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON: Now let's look at Cambodia. We've made a conscious decision not to send American troops in. There are no American combat troops in Cambodia. There are no American combat advisers in Cambodia. There will be no American combat troops or advisers in Cambodia. We will aid Cambodia. Cambodia is the Nixon doctrine in its purest form. Vietnam was in violation of the Nixon doctrine because in Cambodia what we are doing is helping the Cambodians to help themselves.
2 years too early there Senator.
I don't believe her..........
Submitted by pbthinker on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 11:45pm.
I'm a Vietnam Veteran and I seriously doubt anyone would purposely lie about a veteran they fought with, for political reasons. Soldiers, who fight in a war, develope a bond that can't be broken just by offering up some money.
Now, I do believe that soldiers, who fight alongside someone and see them doing things they don't believe are right, will internalize those feelings and not have a lot of respect for that guy. I believe that, when John Kerry came out and started pushing his Hero status from Vietnam, those soldiers who fought alongside him had had enough of him. They didn't like his testimony before the Senate, after the war, they didn't like him, not only getting medals for superficial injuries, but also taking advantage of the 3 wounds and out of there. They read his lies (Christmas in Cambodia) etc. but never said a word about them, until he started to run for President and tried to make himself into a hero they didn't believe he was.
Anyway, to make a long story short, I believe they never would have said anything about this, and would have taken it to the grave with themselves, had he not run for President (and as a consequence Commander in Chief). Just my thoughts on this, for what they're worth, and I wish those who make light of this as "swift boating" would sit back and really take this for the serious event it was. John Kerry has never released his service records and what they alledged has never been proved wrong.
pbthinker...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 2:33am.
The overwhelming majority of Vietnam veterans who actually fought with and/or served directly with or under Kerry corroborate his version of events. The overwhelming majority of the veterans who question his accounts are those without firsthand knowledge. So, according to your personal assessment of credibility standards described in your opening paragraph, it appears you should be granting more credence to Kerry's position.
Jerf
"The overwhelming majority"
Submitted by russedav on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 10:22am.
We know very well that you know precisely NOTHING about "the overwhelming majority" for whom you pretend to speak, so the nonsense you spout is groundless and worthless; had such a "majority" existed it would have won Kerry the election. He was & is an arrogant, egotistical, cowardly effeminate fascist-commie Hanoi whore traitor, as are those who lie with him (pun intended).
You may want to rethink that, russedav...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 4:26pm.
I repeat: The overwhelming majority of those who were there and were direct witnesses supported him. Those who weren't, smeared him.
Jer
Were they there when he met with the enemy of the U.S. ?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 4:52pm.
On April 22, 1971, as he testified before Senator Fulbright's Committee on Foreign Relations, John Kerry mentioned that in Paris he had meetings with "both sides" of the Paris Peace Talks. The strong likelihood is that John Kerry also met with Le Duc Tho, or some other representative of the North Vietnamese delegation, in addition to Madame Binh who was in Paris representing the PRG. There is no reason to assume John Kerry had any interest in meeting with representatives of the other two sides in the Peace Talks -- the United States or South Vietnam.
Mr. KERRY. Mr. Chairman, I realize that full well as a study of political science. I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera. I understand these things.
Wudn't he still a reservist?
904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
Ahhh. Can't bust him unless he was active at the time. But can U.S. citizens just meet with the enemy?
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
Whoops. Too bad we din't elect him huh?
Vet...I'm aware of that...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 5:13pm.
In fact, I've always felt the SBV were motivated more by what Kerry did after his Vietnam tour rather than what he did during his tour.
Jer
you are entitled to your own opinion...
Submitted by wizardjr on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:13am.
but not to your own facts.
What you say is completely inverted. I'm guessing you got your "facts" from the Make Believe Media or Kos or something simliar. Kerry was outted as a complete liar and grand stander by the guys who WERE there. The MBM spent huge amounts of time and money trying to trash the Swift Boat guys and failed utterly. There is still a very large monetary challenge put up on behalf of the Swift Boat Veterans to prove they lied and not Hanoi John. It has never been taken. It never will.
On the contrary, wizard...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 4:27pm.
I got my facts from sources such as the one I linked above. Where did you get yours?
Jer
Whoops. Uncle Jer walked blindly into that one.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:46am.
First of all, I luz Uncle Jer. Luz him to death. But as usual, gonna disagree little bits.
OK. First, over-friggin'whelming majority...fought with and/or served directly under. Whoops. Fought with? He was the OIC of a Swift Boat. He had no peer. Hah! Busted! Boom. Whoopey. Boom. Got cha. I is do the Superior dance! Second. Uh, you seen one of those boats Uncle Jer? 20 men would be a tight fit, really tight. So the whole directly under. All of an overwhelming 13! Wowzies! Ding. Whoopeys. Dong. Hah! I got you! Escape this one and make me look silly! Now giz a hug to your favorite nephew.
Overall, more than 250 Swift boat veterans are on the record questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief. That list includes his entire chain of command -- every single officer Kerry served under in Vietnam. The Kerry game plan is to ignore all this and pretend that the 13 veterans his campaign jets around the country and puts up in 5-star hotels really represent the truth about his short, controversial combat tour.
I commend the Vet's resourcefulness
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 4:41pm.
in supporting the veracity of the SBV allegations by linking the SBV website. I would give you a hug anyway, but then I recall what happened the last time we expressed our mutual affection.
U J
Nonetheless, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:47pm.
another example of knee jerk reflex to defend a liberal.
A phony individual, at that, John Effin Kerry.
Kind of like Obama.
At least you are consistent.
MD
I don't know there.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/01/2011 - 9:29am.
I was making a tongue in cheek point about your one sentence. The number of men working for Senator Kerry would have been extremely limited. As would be his peers, that being an OIC of a swift boat. The website simply confirmed what I was thinking. Since it was confirming my observation, I don't think it can be wholly dismissed simply because they were the ones making accusations about the Senator. Just as wikipedia can't be dismissed on every single entry that is not controversial.
Agreed that there was a significant disparity in the comparative
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 05/01/2011 - 12:09pm.
numbers, Vet. I think there were about a dozen who were Kerry's staunchest supporters, but they were the ones who seemed to possess the greatest degree of firsthand knowledge.
Jer
And we agree about your statement elsewhere on this page.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/01/2011 - 12:18pm.
It was Senator Kerry's actions after Vietnam that got the other veterans (including me) riled up. Not so much his actions during his short tour.
Where is that guy with the --- Verklempt and Perturbed blog. We are prolly in trouble now.
So, he
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:59am.
actually was up the river, in 1968?
3 of the 5 crewmen, Steve Hatch, Steve Gardner and Bill Zaldonis, on Kerry's own Swift boat deny that they were anywhere near Cambodia during Christmas of 1968. So, no, the "overwhelming majority of Vietnam veterans who actually fought with and/or served directly" don't agree with John Effing Kerry. All of the living commanders in Kerry's chain of command deny that he was anywhere near Cambodia during Christmas.
Kerry apparently never got closer to Cambodia, than Sa Dec, about 55 miles from the VietNam-Cambodia border.
Lies, you say?
Submitted by Phryj1 on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 3:06am.
"...These people make up a lie, they continue the lie, they perpetuate the lie, and then people start to believe it."
For a minute there, I thought she was talking about the Democrats and their media cronies. It describes them aptly. Accusations of racism, extremism, doctored tapes, Sarah Palin saying she can see Russia from her house, etc. It's the standard operating procedure for the progressives.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
what does this.............
Submitted by Patriot II on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:02am.
ignorant , retarded bimbo know about anything? This miscarriage of humanity not only doesn't know anything, she doesn't suspect anything........what a waste of good oxygen! imo
This show is worse than public access TV.
Submitted by wizardjr on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:20am.
I pity you guys who actually have to watch this crap. There's not enough money to entice me to watch this stupid cow or the other screeching harridans, Rosie the Red and Roseanne the Wretched. As my nieces used to say, "Yuck-poo!"
Swift Boat was a bad idea
Submitted by ckc1227 on Sat, 04/30/2011 - 11:30pm.
Because of swift boat, democrats talked bad about us.
Signed
Michael Medved
John Gibson
Jason Lewis
etc....