Rick Santelli Sounds Off Again on Government Spending
On Thursday morning's "Squawk Box," CNBC's on-air editor Rick Santelli sounded off against raising the debt ceiling, the Democrat-controlled congress' failure to pass a budget last year, and "spendthrift" politicians. The rant echoed his famous 2009 diatribe where he called for a Chicago "Tea Party."
"It's a matter of principle. If we can't do the discretionary spending now, what chance do the conservatives have to tackle everything we know?" he said of more budget cuts.
"But you turn on certain channels that are supposed to be news, and they vilify anything to get it under control. They say we're going to kill kids? You know, we will have problems with children if the whole damn country goes bankrupt. Wake up!"
(Video below the break.)
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Democrat-controlled congress' failure to pass a budget
Submitted by CarlosS on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:13am.
Democrats can't live under a budget, why would they want to pass one and have any constraints on what they can do?
Go Santelli, go!!!
Submitted by c5then on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:34am.
Tea Par Tee!
Tea Par Tee!
Wasn't it about this time in 2009 that the Tea Parties were born because of Rick and his courageous rants??!!! Didn't they have an absolutely HUGE inpact on the next election?
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Wow - Trump Tramples Merideth on TODAY - WATCH lol!!!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:54am.
Conservatives need to take a HUGE lesson from Trump on how to speak, destroy the enemy & present their 180 degree better ideas to the media.
Must WATCH this as it is absolutely fantastic! This shows exactly what we have been complaining about calculating wimpy REPs and that they SHOULD BE LIKE THIS! Like an ACTUAL LEADER!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42469716#42469716 wow, wow, wow!
We need a thread on this! Now he calls himself a TEA party supporter but he puts a limit on it. He is clearly not a conservative on social issues which makes him a conservative DEM in my book.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
This interview
Submitted by sp23 on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:12pm.
makes me giddy!
WOW - all repubs should talk to media like this
Submitted by SouthJersey1953 on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:41pm.
I think I just became a fan of Trump. WOW!
Thanks for the link.
Donald Trump is a great
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:42pm.
Donald Trump is a great Conservative when it comes to the economy, no doubt about it. I know that Rush Limbaugh likes him. However, there are a lot of Conservatives that do not like his Liberal stances in social issues.
if it comes down to choosing Obama v. Trump, yes, I will vote for Trump, but I will have to close my eyes.
There are too many people out there in the Republican party who believe that nominating a Conservative in social issues and the economy will lead to disaster. This is wrong! If you nominate the right candidate, Republicans can win.
I am tired of the RINOs of the Republican party always moving to the Left while the Democrat party moves farther and farther to the Left. We need to pull this nation back from economic and more imporantly from moral disaster.
Notice Vieira was too intimidated to open her trap and interrupt
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:48pm.
every ten seconds as is her usual style when she doesn't get the answer she wants.
She looked like she couldn't wait to get the hell outta that room.
So just for that alone: Bravo, Donald.
SickofLibs, Donald Trump was
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:22pm.
SickofLibs,
Donald Trump was good and he didn't let Vieria defined the interview, he did it! This is what we need in the Republican party, individuals who take on the ridiculous MSM. He has a strong character and he didn't let Vieria bully him and everything he said made a lot of sense. Vieira could say much other than to defend Obama. Pretty pathetic since that is not her job.
It was a good interview, I like what he had to say, but from my understanding, I could be wrong, he is too Liberal in social issues.
Regardless, whether he runs or not, we need individuals like him on the Right to take the media on.
Just watched it too
Submitted by jon_torlin on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:26pm.
Wow........holy crap WOW! That was a great interview even though Meredith hated it! From what I could tell of his body language, that man, that MAN(unlike the manchild Chairman) meant what he said.
Dang, I was glued to that interview. That's a rare thing.
I love how his answer to the question "what has he done well(or excelled or whatever she said)" and he said "Get elected." BAM! The look on her face!
I haven't watched Trump on other shows, don't usually watch the night shows he's been on, but I hope this is true of the others, in this one, he was displaying supreme confidence. He wasn't full of himself, he looked at you in the eye, you know he means what he says, and you know he knows what the hell he's doing. And he doesn't need a teleprompter.
I would still like to see Sarah Palin as potus, but barring that, I would not object to The Trump being potus. While he wasn't a governor, he does have the managerial experience of a mogul such as he is, and he didn't get to where he was fiddly-farting around with community organization.
I'm just glad he's not like Ross Perot, another businessman. Don't get me wrong, Perot knew what the hell he's doing too, but he's got a lot of bad baggage that came with him during that election with Dole and Clinton.
Wow.....I'm a bit impressed. I would love to see him in a debate with DuhOne, he would tear his ass apart!
-Jon
social vs fiscal conservative
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:34pm.
Most social issues disappear at a federal level with a fiscal conservative because they become defunded and move to state rights issues. The problem with fiscal conservatives/social moderate or liberal at the federal level is who they pick to sit on the Supreme Court.
Trump is not all that liberal on social issues
Submitted by lotr on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:58pm.
Donald Trump was interviewed by BOR on the O'Reilly Factor a couple nights ago. He self-identified as pro-life, and if memory serves, also anti "same sex marriage" -- probably the top two "social moral issues." Now, I don't think these would be priorities for him, but I do think he may very well seriously positioning himself as a viable GOP candidate by embracing the conservative stance on these issues.
I think he said recently that
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 3:51pm.
I think he said recently that he is pro-life personally, but supports pro-kill from a political view. I think he is ok on the other issue.
I love how he can speak so clearly on this COB, Cert. of Live Birth, and that it means nothing as far as the weight of it as a document; can't even get a driver's Lic. w/it. It is not a birth certificate. He is on Shawn Hannity now speaking about it again. Love it. REPs are so timid! Even Rush today backs away from the Birther issue. I think Rush has to much money on the line. Trump does not care because he can see the smoke & the $2M spent to cover up Obama's birth certificate.
Talking about Abortion now: Says pro-life, against gay marriage, not answering Roe v. Wade question.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
MaximusBraveheart, I am on
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:08pm.
MaximusBraveheart,
I am on neither side of the issue on the Birth Certificate, however, I have a questions. Isn't a moot point, whether President Obama was born in the USA or not? His mother is an American citizen, regardless of where you were born in the world, if one of your parents is an American citizen, you are a born American citizen, thus elligible to become President. Right? Am I missing something in this debate?
I am curious, not attacking either side. I have heard Michael Medved debate this, but he becomes rather facitious and gets an air of superiority, whether he means it or not, over those who argue that Obama can't be our President due to the Birth Certificate thing.
Not quite Fut,
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 7:55pm.
The Constitution doesn't require you be an American citizen, it requires you be a NATURAL BORN American citizen. Barry can be an American citizen but still not be natural born, that's the sticky part.
Section 1,Article II:
The sticky part is the definition of 'natural born'. Some say he meets the requirement and others say he doesn't. Hiding the birth certificate only exacerbates the issue. We will probably never know. I don't really care one way or another as it will never make any difference at this point. I'm more concerned about what he's doing to my country than where he was or wasn't born. JMHO.
At this point I am ABBO,
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 2:10pm.
At this point I am ABBO, (AnyBodyButObama). That said, Donald has changed his stand on abortion. He was pro choice. And he sent a nice note to Pelosi when she became speaker. That said, Donald impressed me with his stand on spending, and Libya and outlining his foreign policy.
Loved the part, "If we get the oil," if not fine, we stay out. He gets it. If it has no direct effect on our national interest, let it alone. The one thing I did not hear them address that I wish he had brought up, is the southern border and how he would secure it and protect our people.
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I would love to see the
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 2:22pm.
I would love to see the unedited footage of this interview. I would think Trump would have been verbally flaying Viera. I wonder if he told her to stop carrying The Absentee Presidents water?
Great Video, Max B
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 3:12pm.
And consider this....because his show is on NBC, I suppose the liberals think they can get away with this kind of nonsense.
I love it that he just blew away all of her liberal talking points.
The Donald on the talk shows is definitely worth the price of admission. Plus, he's stirring the pot about O's birth certificate.
What's not to love?
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fyi: Trump on radio right now
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 3:40pm.
fyi: Trump on radio right now w/Shawn Hannity.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
I watched that this morning
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:48am.
I watched that this morning while putting on my work boots. He's great. I always watch CNBC and the local FOX on split screen in the mornings. Flip it to Rick when he is on.
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Better Looking
Submitted by Caringwhiteguy on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:49am.
Becky is better looking than Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, but she has no problem parroting the same hollow and divisive talking points. Just disgusting.
YOUR RIGHT!
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:49pm.
This how you talk to a LIBERAL.... they don't listen, they think they know everything, and well they are RUDE and condesending to anyone that doesn't think the way they do. So you do what Trump did you fire it out you make you point, you DON'T let them interupt you, and if they do you point out that they are being RUDE and that THEY asked YOU for the interview! GOOD JOB EXACTLY HOW TO TALK TO A LIBERAL TROLL!!!!
We need to stop caring so
Submitted by pwoz on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:09pm.
We need to stop caring so much about social issues. The economy is #1. If you want a stance on social issues, take the one that prevents future Democrats.
pwoz, Lack of morals, lack
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:25pm.
pwoz,
Lack of morals, lack of caring for social issues is what has taken this country down a terribly road economically. Public funding for abortions, public funding radical Islamic schools, public funding to teach kindergarten children about homosexual sex. Public funding for so called "social justice" programs are a huge part of what has led this nation into the economic mess we are in!!!
If we do not care about social issues, we will NEVER reigh in the spending and this nation will be gravely affected economically. Social issues and the economy go hand in hand. These are no seperate issues as so many people want to make it seem.
I agree with your examples
Submitted by pwoz on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:32pm.
I agree with your examples and how they contributed to moral degredation, but those are also symptoms of the entitlement "Great Society" class produced by the progressives. I support anything that destroys the entitlement dependency.
powz, I agree, it is the
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:43pm.
powz,
I agree, it is the entitlement mentality that so many people. Including many on the Republican and Tea Party movement. The entitlement mentality has led to social issues becoming intertwined with economic issues.
I know older individuals who want to reign in spending, but the second they hear that their senior benefits may be cut, they quickly become part of the "I have to have my entitlements. Others are the one that need to make sacrifices!" There are young college age kids who demand reigning in the spending, but when you talk to them about stop using Federal Financial Aid Program, FAFSA, they suddenly change too. Of course, not everyone, but there are a lot of people who think this way. "You give up your entitlements, I will not give up mine."
If each and every one of us is unwilling to make sacrifices, to remove ourselves from the entitlement mentality, whether you are young, middle age or old, we will never force politicians to stop with the ridiculous spending which is sinking this nation.
Liberallies
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 1:54pm.
One reason the seniors balk at cutting their services is that their retirement was planed around them. After all, if you retired 10 years or longer ago, and say your 72 to 82 years old, your retirement income is already cut by gas and food prices today. You cut the medical, increase the cost of meds and increase the cost of Dr. visits, and wa-la! Your running a deficit. Now if you cut their services that they were told to plan their retirement around, how do you figure to see to it they have their meds and dr visits when they need them?
There are ways to so this, but you do not take the crutch from the man while he is leaning on it. Unless, of course, your in favor of Obama care and the "give granny a pill." argument.
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Bassndude, Well, but that is
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 3:07pm.
Bassndude,
Well, but that is the problem. No one is willing to make sacrifices. Your argument is exactly what I am talking about. If we cut from senior citizens retirement, then what? How are they going to get their meds, pay for drs. visit?
Well guess what, my money is taken away every paycheck to fund such programs. Money that I could use for my children, for my wife, for me to pay for health insurance, to pay for a great education for my children. Yet, I am forced to sacrifice this money into Social Security and I will never see it.
I by no means advocate draconian measures in which we tell seniros, "tough luck", not even close. But sacrifices need to be made. I know plenty of seniors who live very nice lives with quite expensive cars, very nice large homes, all the extras of life that you can imagine. How do they do it? Yes, they put retirement money aside for it, but they are also living off social security. Is this right and moral?
We are all being asked to make sacrifices, but no one seems to be willing to stand up, lead and say, "I will make the sacrifices for the future of the USA. For the future of our children". All we hear is extremes.
You just used a very emotional argument, while true for some seniors, it is not true for all and I will say not true for most. How about if seniors start buying used cars, give up their cable, eat out less just like many of us have had to do? Everyone seems to want their cake and eat it too.
I constantly hear this when talking to Republican and Tea Party individuals who are elderly. "The young need to make sacrifices, but the government better not touch my entitlement programs". This is what the Tea Party, in some cases has become. "Do away with your entitlements, but not mine."
Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment benefits, FAFSA, food stamps and the countless other entitlement programs, as they are structured, are destroying this nation. Should we get rid of them completely, no, I don't think so. But Bassndude, just like I know it is not my obligation to pay for the healthcare of the young couple living next door to me, it is also not my obligation to fund the retirement of anyone except that of my wife and me. If I have extra, after my family is taken care off, I have no problem helping others. However, I could use the money that is going into Social Security to secure a better future for my family instead of going to fund the retirement, dr. visits, medicine of others, elderly or not. If this nation instilled better morals. If this nation allowed the teaching of the 4th Commandement, "honor your mother and father", the State wouldn't need to create entitlement programs for seniros. Instead, what do we have? Children who abandon their elderly parents to the care of the State. The elderly and drop off in a nursing home to fend for themselves. I have always found this practice to be so cold, so unhuman. So unChristian. Once again, proving that morals and the economic fiasco that we are going through go hand in hand.
I have zero doubt that many union members in Wisconsin have planned their retirement around old union contracts. Now Walker just came in and undid these. Does this mean that Walker being bad? How I read and interpreted your post, it would indicate as much.
Agree they go hand in hand.
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:12pm.
Agree they go hand in hand. We need vouchers to take the monopoly away from public schools. Choice & freedom from schools that MUST teach there is NO right or wrong then proceed to teach what they think is right & wrong OR ELSE you are hateful.
Notice how all this "anti bullying" stuff is being pushed. The real agenda is LONG TERM agenda will be pro-gay, or you be scorned as hateful. The local news now keeps promoting their new push "BEYOND BULLING - EMPOWERING CHANGE." What does that sound like? Warning bells! PC alert.
(WFAA Ch. 8 Dallas TX)
In England now, the adoption officials would not adopt to a Christian family because they would not renounce the teachings in the Bible regarding homosexuality.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
MaximusBraveheart, "In
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:13pm.
MaximusBraveheart,
"In England now, the adoption officials would not adopt to a Christian family because they would not renounce the teachings in the Bible regarding homosexuality."
Yes, I read this a while back! Thus begins the open and government condoned persecution of Christians in the Western world. Sadly, there are many Liberals, pro-gray, who applauded this!!
We live in an upside down world when homosexuals are allowed to adopt children, but Christians are told they can't! Scary stuff!
I have heard quite a few Americans debate for this same thing here in the USA!
Yes they are the Bullies!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:23pm.
Christians don't condemn the person, just the actions as with any behavior that conflicts with the Bible. This is deliberately DISTORTED as HATE when it is really love. Just like a Mom & Dad, a person who loves you says something to you are doing something destructive. A person who doesn't care about you says, "cool, what ever floats your boat." Deviant sex can be "fun" but deep down it will quickly be destructive to your personal & spiritual mental health. After gay marriage, pro-polygamy would logically have to be next. What the heck, they are all consenting right? Then kids who consent. It won't end.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
MaximusBraveheart, We
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:32pm.
MaximusBraveheart,
We Christians are not supposed to condemn the persons. We condemn the sins, the behavior. Sadly, it is too many on the Left who hate and who do not mind persecuting others for their beliefs.
Look how the Left went crazy, even using all types of hateful, demeaning and racist attacks against the African Americans population in California who the majority voted against gay marriage. The Left only cares about groups as long as these serve their purpose, as proven in California.
Conservatives & RNC needs to
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:51pm.
Conservatives & RNC needs to have a clear message as to why Blacks & Hispanics should endorse the conservative cause. Ask which party is really FOR them. They need a strong Trump like message out there that clears up all the Pelosi/Reid/Obama lies. This would be a huge voting block & there is no reason they could not since they are generally more religious and more conservative than many whites.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
MaximusBraveheart, LOL...you
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 7:35pm.
MaximusBraveheart,
LOL...you are preaching to the choir, as they say. I am a latino man, born in Caracas, Venezuela, no living in Chicago, IL. It baffles me, it peplexes me how any Latino can vote for the Democratic party. A party that loves to keep us down, to throw a few crumbs of bread our way to have our vote. The Democratic party NEEDS poverty in order to stay a viable political party. It needs division and racism to exist in order to stay a viable political party. They need victims in order to be a viable party.
The Democratic Party is not for minorities. I have experienced this first hand as a so called minority.
"Well guess what, my money is
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 3:35pm.
"Well guess what, my money is taken away every paycheck to fund such programs. Money that I could use for my children, for my wife, for me to pay for health insurance, to pay for a great education for my children. Yet, I am forced to sacrifice this money into Social Security and I will never see it. "
And that makes you different from those that are 60, how? You think everyone else has not paid into that? You think that makes you some sort of special case? Your the only one?
You can reduce senior dependence by giving those who are 5 to 10 years away from it time to plan for it.
You have to remember also, those seniors that collect SS pay taxes on that money that they get from SS, also. So they are the ones getting the short end of the stick. Government taxed them by taking that money, and now they tax them again when they get it back. Hows that work? The young do need to make some sacrifices. As well as everyone else. Your problem is you sound like you think everyone should make sacrifices but you.
Your not the only one out here that has had to do the same thing. My guess is, if you were retired, on a fixed income, and were taxed 50 to 75% in your early years, you would have been able to save very little either. These people your talking about collect less than 1000 a month from SS. And some of them, that is all they get. They don't have any retirement to speak of. The tax rates were, in some cases, 90% while they were working.
I understand where your coming from. But we have all suffered through the same things. Sometimes at much higher tax rates than we face now. You ain't got it so bad. But you have to give those that have time, the chance to prepare, before you start cutting benefits. Im not against that.
My dad died in 2004. His sole source of income was SS. That was 880.00 a month. Then they took taxes out, and he got a check for right at 650.00. That's not much to live on.
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Bassndude, So what that 60
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 3:58pm.
Bassndude,
So what that 60 year olds and everyone else is being forced to do it. It doesn't make it right. That is exactly my point, I am not special. None of us are, but too many people want to treat the elderly as a group of citizens who should not be asked to make sacrifices. Are the elderly special, more than us, more equal than us? Are the elderly more equal than my 4 year old daughter and 6 year son? ALL of us need to make sacrifices to cut the out of control spending.
Bassndude, but how is it my responsability, the responsability of anyone, to pay for those individuals who did not save throughout their life for their retirement? If it is my responsability to pay for retirees, how can anyone argue that it is not my responsability to pay for those who do not have health insurace? You can't argue for one and against the other.
I also agree that is prepoesterous that we tax Social Security beneifts, I 100% agree with you, but once again, why should we all pay for the mistakes and draconian measures of our government?
Social Security is not enough to live on as you proved as much, so why do we even have it? It gives Americans a false sense of security for their retirement while putting an immense financial burden on younger generations!
We both agree that spending needs to be reigned it, however the question is, do some sacrifice and others don't? or do we all sacrifice? Have seniors become the "more equal" of Animal Famr? We can touch everyone's entitlement programs, but the seniors'? I have two elderly parents and what have they done? put money aside to live once my father stops working. Furthermore, they have 7 sons and daughters who will never allow them to go hungry or not have a roof over their roof.
My first responsability, the first responsability of every single human being on planet Earth is first towards their family, wife, children, then to their parents, then to their siblings, then to their friends and last to strangers and that is if you have extra. Most of us today cannot afford the money taken away by our government to fund Social Security and the countless entitlement programs. Like I said, I am not advocating that we immediately end the programs, but I think it is about time to face them out.
We all need to make sacrifices, the young need to stop using FAFSA. Unemployement benefits, food stamps need to become a safety net, NOT a way of living. Same thing with Social Security andn Medicare, these should be safety nets, not a way of living. These programs are a huge percentage of what is destroying our economy. These programs create false sense of security, a lie, "you can live off these entitlement programs".
Liberallies, What you seem
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 4:58pm.
Liberallies,
What you seem to not understand is that they have sacrificed through the years. They suffered through and paid the same things you are paying for. The "entitlement" programs they live off of are not what they see as entitlements. They paid for those. For 50, sometimes 60 years they worked and paid those same taxes your complaining about. It is supposed to be savings. It was to earn 3%, every 1/4. And when they retired, they expected to draw that money out.
The ones you should be angry at are the Democrats that spent that money and promised to pay it back.
And let me ask you, if your income taxes were at the 50% to 80% level, how much would you be saving for retirement now? I mean, if there were no 401K's, or Keoghs or any of those other retirement accounts? If you saved any in a savings account, which was their only option, BTW, any interest that was paid on the account, was taxed also. Not sure what that rate was. There were a lot of things a lot different then, than they are now. We have a system that is a lot friendlier to savings and retirement accounts than there was then. The dynamics have changed greatly. And it was those seniors that got those changes done for you. That make your life easier and your saving for retirement easier.
They struggled, they sacrificed and they fought to get these changes made so you, that came later, would have it easier. And I agree we need to faze out many of these programs, and find the ones that are able to work, and make them work for their food stamps and welfare. Sweep streets if need be.
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Bassndude, You make some
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 7:33pm.
Bassndude,
You make some very good points. The elderly have sacrificed a lot for 60-70 years. Very true. And believe me, I am more than angry at the Democrats. I am tired of them, I am tired of their demagoguery, I am tired of their empty promises. I am tired of the voters that keep on voting Democrats into office.
Obama lied, hasn't kept any of his promises, yet his approval rating is still at above 40%! Have we become a nation of such idiots? Of fools that are used and abused by politicians?
You are very right, The Democratic party has promised to control spending. Pelosi promised as much back in 2006 and all we got was a government that spend more money than all previous American governments combined.
However, I just believe that everyone, every single person, every single group, young, middle age and old needs to make deep, deep, very deep sacrifices so that we can keep the USA being the greatest nations in the world.
My family and I moved to the USA from Venezuela. We moved here with the hope that we along with our children and future generations would have a much better chance than in Venezuela. Sadly, as my parents say, they see the USA going down the same path that Venezuela went down. Political corruption, easily fooled voters who care more about partying, American Idol and such, and government spending that can no longer be controlled.
The government is the problem, no doubt. But we all, every single one of us, since we are all equal and we all make many sacrifices, young or old, need to make many more and deeper sacrifices.
bass and LL
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 8:12pm.
I saw a statistic that said that after someone has collected social security for four years, the person has received back all that he personally had paid in. The system was flawed from the start by not having caps on what could be received. I don't believe it was ever intended to be the full means of support for someone, only a supplement.
Somehow, we need to retool this system because it will not work as is. No, it isn't fair. But no one guaranteed life would be fair.
Actually...
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:53pm.
Social Security was NOT a contribution to a savings account, ever. It was and is a transfer payment. If the Social Security taxes you pay aren't handed over to Social Security age citizens by the end of the month, it will be gone the next month.
I'd rather it be done away with. Why? It sure as all hell will not be there for me when it is time for me to retire decades from now. (hence jamming my IRA with money)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Rick, Rick, Rick
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 8:12pm.
What are you doing over there? You belong at Fox.