Jon Stewart to Michael Steele: GOP Base Is 'So Easily Ignitable'
On Tuesday's "Daily Show," liberal comedian Jon Stewart flashed a smirk and wondered why the conservative base of the Republican Party is "so easily ignitable." The comedian hosted former Republican Party chair Michael Steele, who recounted the story of how he had to go about "re-igniting our base" after the party lost the White House and fell further into the minority in Congress in 2008.
"Why is it so easy to ignite your base?" Stewart asked with a smile. Amidst laughter from the audience, Michael Steele played along and quipped "they're an excitable bunch." Stewart kept at it. "They are so flammable, your base," he remarked, and added "so easily ignitable."
The remarks seem to echo Stewart's calls for civility in discourse, where he has focused much of his invective toward what he feels to be inflammatory political rhetoric. Earlier in the show, Stewart mocked "political hypochondriacs" on the Right who fear America will suffer the destructive fates of certain European and African countries; Stewart then lampooned Leftists who try to "cheer the hypochondriac up" by wishing America was in fact like certain European or Asian countries.
Shortly after, Steele talked about the party's efforts to be fiscally responsible and return to its conservative roots in "going back to Reagan." Stewart then chimed in that "even with Reagan – Reagan ran big deficits, Reagan raised taxes."
While it's true that Reagan did raise taxes and run big deficits during his presidency, he is best-known for lowering tax rates, simplifying the tax and regulatory codes, and running considerably smaller deficits than, say, President Bush or President Obama.
A transcript of the segment, which aired on February 1 at 11:22 p.m. EST, is as follows:
MICHAEL STEELE: We came in, we put our heads down to figure out a strategy that began with re-igniting our base, talking to our base, reconnecting with them –
JON STEWART: Why is it so easy –
STEELE: – and began building from there.
STEWART: Why is it so easy to ignite your base?
(Laughter)
STEELE: They're an excitable bunch.
STEWART: They are so flammable, your base.
STEELE: They're an excitable bunch.
(Laughter)
STEWART: So easily ignitable.
STEELE: And that's a good thing.
STEWART: The passion of 'em.
STEELE: But you know – but honestly, and that's a very good point, that's a very fair point. But you see it on both the right and the left among conservatives and Democrats. During the Bush years, you saw a very well-organized – and I thought well-communicated – strategy by folks on the Left about the war in Iraq. Now you have, in the Age of Obama, President Obama's time, you've got the economy, which is something that Republicans feel very strongly about and have been articulating, so I think you see this ignites –
STEWART: They are selling themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility.
STEELE: Yeah, and I think – I think historically that has been where the root of the party is, and certainly in the last ten years we've gotten into big government Republicanism, which really ticked off a lot of people in the base, turned away a lot of those independent voters who supported Republicans, going back to Reagan, because we weren't true to what we were saying we would do. And so, you know –
STEWART: Have you ever, though, you know, even with Reagan – Reagan ran big deficits, Reagan raised taxes. For the most part –
STEELE: There's a blind spot when it comes to some of what President Reagan did as governor and as president. I mean, admittedly so. I mean, there –
STEWART: Doesn't that speak to the core, though?
STEELE: But I think there's also a very strong sense of, you know the ideal. The party, a lot of the activists in the party do strive towards the ideal, and it's true for both Democrats and Republicans. It's not just centered on the right side of the political spectrum.
(...)
STEWART: Well, let's talk about theory in practice.
STEELE: Sure.
STEWART: The RNC, you know, is now 21 or 23 million dollars in debt. The party of fiscal responsibility is that –
STEELE: But that's not the same –
(Laughter)
STEWART: It's – you are – the RNC is –
(Laughter)
STEWART: Well, I want to hear it – I want to hear it – let him –
STEELE: It's a fair point, because as the transcripts in the budget committee hearing – meeting – showed, I didn't want to spend the money. I was very hesitant about committing ourselves to additional lines of credit. But it is part of –
STEWART: You raised your debt limit.
STEELE: We raise – exactly. And look, and it will get paid off, there's no doubt about that. And certainly the new chairman wasted no time during his tenure working with me, asking for money to help them in his state –
STEWART: Exactly.
STEELE: So maybe he should give back some of that money, and help them pay down that debt.
STEWART: I'm not suggesting that the Republicans are going to be foreclosed on. I'm saying that is it hard for a party to say we run as the party of fiscal responsibility, but we're running a huge debt –
STEELE: But that's every party, both parties have debt right now, Democrats and Republicans. So you're saying the Democrats are showing their true colors by spending wildly with abandon?
STEWART: Yes.
STEELE: Okay. Well –
STEWART: I think nobody would suggest that the Democrats were –
STEELE: The difference is, we won.
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Define "ignitable" and please give examples, Jon...
Submitted by krendler on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 6:06pm.
...otherwise, that's just inflamatory rhetoric directed soley at one party (pretty much the norm for Stewart).
examples, examples, let's see...
Submitted by abeautifulperson on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:42am.
... people feeling 2nd amendment rights might be required to resolve political issues.
... politicians blurting out, interrupting the president while he is speaking.
... conservatives having a complete hissy, when accused of inciting a gun-toting nut.
... citizens jumping up and screaming at townhall meetings.
... irresponsible faux-journalist / former semi governor who uses idiotic terms like 'blood libel', claiming the rhetoric of the right is harmless but the criticism of it is incendiary.
... a 24 hour "news" channel spending loads of time and energy revving up tea party protests, even getting caught using old footage to fortify numbers at other more sparsely attended protests.
the point jon stewart very clearly made: it's not that the GOP is massively in debt. it's the GOP's claim of fiscal responsibility. it's a joke.
clinton ran a budget surplus and was replaced by the most outrageously irresponsible prez who racked up so much debt he almost bankrupt the country.
and now that they're out, we have to listen to the GOP's renewed, constant claims of fiscal responsibility. even the party itself is massively in dept. it's irony. it's boring.
Boring, indeed, abeautifulperson---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:48am.
as are every single one of your idiotic liberal talking points. Back in your hole for a few months, as usual, you liberal twit. I swear, if you were a tad smarter, based on the timing of your posts here I would be certain that your real life name is Punxsatawney Phil.please don't respond to the points made.
Submitted by abeautifulperson on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:52am.
just get all ignitable for me... love it.
that's all the time you get; more than you deserve.
You got it, Punxsatawney Phil---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:59am.
I won't respond to points that are just talking point blather, which is all you have listed.Krendler
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 6:09pm.
Well, there's Michael Jackson and Richard Pryor.
OOPS, those guys were liberals.
Yep Cool
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:22pm.
Especially when associated with Coke,, or was it Pepsi?
He is saying we are ignitable, because we have been
Submitted by Lipton on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 6:10pm.
in a coma for the past 30 years, and are now actually voicing our opinions. Deep down, that is why the liberals hate the teapartiers. Most of the major news media types know that most tea partiers are not uneducated nutcases, but they are mad because we aren't being quiet any more.
While we wait for the easily ignitable list
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 6:13pm.
Let's see how difficult it is to ignite a lib:
Confront a liberal with facts and watch the attack as it escalates.
Someone Check Steele's Pilot Light
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 6:19pm.
Michael Steele is too easily manipulated in his desire for public adulation, such as via TV show appearances.
Look for his continued appearances on Liberal Media shows.
I don't get it . Why would
Submitted by nixon on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 6:40pm.
I don't get it . Why would Steele go on this show ? Did He not know that it would be to make Him look bad /stupid ? Is He going to try to get booked on Maher's show next ?
Who else cares what Steele has to say?
Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 7:58pm.
Steele blew his credibility in the conservative circuit over the last couple of years. Stewart and Maher are probably the only ones who invite him, and it is just to humiliate him.
Dennis Prager
He was on w/ Maher last Friday and was on Rachel Maddow's
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 8:08pm.
show the week prior to that.
Suffice it to say, he demonstrated why he is no longer RNC Chair.
But
Submitted by RobAtAmPre on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 7:01pm.
He makes a valid point. The RNC running their own deficit and yet we are to believe they will responsibly run our government..........
If we don't keep the heel of pour boot on their throats they'll do to us what the Dems have tried to do.
You're right
Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 7:59pm.
It is a lot like expecting a Chicago pol to not bring Chi politics into the WH.
Dennis Prager
I Agree With Fiscal Restraint Needed By Those In Power Now
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 8:00pm.
But your initial point on the RNC debt... not necessarily.
Putting things in perspective, maybe no one should go into debt, including political parties for the sake of operations and elections, but sometimes debt is the result of a desire to continue to operate and is not necessarily unhealthy.
Example, there are physician practices that will take out short term loans to pay the bills while waiting for the business to mature, or, even after maturing, need cash to continue to operate while waiting for a backlog of reimbursement to come in. This debt is not pleasant but it also is not "bad" per se. You do what you have to do to survive.
Then there is "bad" debt that serves to prolong the agony and make things worse in the end, such as the kind our government has rung up on entitlements and aggrandizements that will require, especially if left unchecked to contine given projected GDP/Tax Collections/Bond Ratings, a crippling burden on several generations of Americans when the bill finally comes due.
John Stewart's false equivalence point of attack is facile, risable and subversive.
I disagree
Submitted by RobAtAmPre on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:29pm.
All debt is bad. This credit is what has led us all to massive debts. There's something to be said for settling up front with cash. The notion of 'good debt' is what has led to our economic collapse. A home should not be an investment, it should be a home. A car is a method of conveyance, not an investment. Way back when, if a business wanted to expand, they invested money that they actually had. There is nothing good about owing someone money.
Purely speaking, debt is
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:48pm.
Purely speaking, debt is "bad". In reality, the bad of debt may be mitigated depending on the risk associated with payback as well as what it is used for.
Incurring a car note is "bad" but when that vehicle allows greater mobility to earn more money or save more money, for instance, and then pay off that debt orderly, then that debt in not an equivalence of IOU's in the Social Security "lock box".
Obtaining loans to go to professional school in order to ultimately secure a higher paying job which will pay off debt and improve one's financial security overall is not an equivalence of ever-expanding unemployent benefits system that continue to pay people to not work for 2 years and do not ask for any payback once they secure a job.
Obtaining a small business loan in order to hang a shingle and begin a medical career, a debt that is expected to be paid back and statistically overwhelmingly is paid back, is not akin to the debt occurred when nationalizing railroads like Amtrak that run in the red or bridges to nowhere that never add up in cost to benefit analyses or any number of other boondoggles and hornswaggles.
The funds that result in debt may be a tool that advances one economically and therefore may be viewed as necessary "evils" in order to propel one further along, creating wealth and paying taxes that would not have occured otherwise.
It is always preferrable to not incur debt. I did not say debt may be "good". Debt is "bad" but it can be the matchstick which makes fire that keeps you warm and alive when managed properly or burns you if you hold onto it for too long.
Finally, I disagree about cars. My Cutlass convertible is an investment at this point. ;-)
gee that's not how that conversation ended
Submitted by abeautifulperson on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 3:56am.
what came next with that interview...
STEWART: "you had a stimulus program through deficit spending that created a positive result that ignited your base."
STEELE: "yes, there it is."
STEWART: "i think that's wise."
so in the end, STEWART actually commended STEELE for defecit spending as a prudent investment. more irony.
Jon is right; I admit I'm ignitable
Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 7:56pm.
But I would much rather light the working end of an M-80 and shove it in his stupid mouth. Or maybe instead in the end he thinks with. I am tired of YOUR side, Jon, being the trashers and you expecting me to react passively. Or, as Dick Cheney said to Patrick Leahy "F**k yourself". It is YOU and the rest of your liberal friends that are the thin-skinned ones. Who causes all the damage at their demonstrations, Jon, conservatives or liberals? Go look at after pictures of the Obama inauguration and the 9/12 rally if you want confirmation. You are the trashy pigs and the volatile ones.
Dennis Prager
It's Worse Than That
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 8:05pm.
Some of Jon Stewart's core contingency may be seen in the photos at http://www.zombietime.com/.
A picture may indeed be worth a thousand words.
so which is it TH?
Submitted by abeautifulperson on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:49am.
are you more ignitable with your dreams of fantasies of killing comedic poltiical commentators? lauding VPs who can't resist telling someone to "fcuk yourself" (gasp - those aren't asterisks)?
or is it the thin-skinned liberal, trashy pigs?
jon is right. you acted right on his queue.
Ok, ok, a beautifully hairy Punxsatawney Phil---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:55am.
You came, you predicted Spring is around the corner; now back to your hole.Well I'm excitable because
Submitted by MidAmerica on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 8:43pm.
Well I'm excitable because the freaks of my generation, the Boomers, went
from this
to this.
How did they go from being Libertarians to the most repressive and authoritarian generation that America has ever produced?
Stewart turned on a phrase
Submitted by bob loblaw on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:19pm.
Stewart turned on a phrase used by Steele and mad a joke, a easy one to make. The comment Stewart made doesn't equate to the comments made by conservatives in the first segment of the show. Implying that what is happening in Egypt, or the other countries mentioned in the segment, might happen here is hyperbolic. Conservatives only care about the debt when they are out of office, and love to spend just as much as liberals except conservatives don't like to pay for their spending.
Conservatives only care about
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:19pm.
Conservatives only care about the debt when they are out of office, and love to spend just as much as liberals except conservatives don't like to pay for their spending.
Hmm. Let's see.
[Scratch scratch, scribble scribble]
Republicans only care about the debt when they are out of office, and love to spend just as much as liberals except republicans don't like to pay for their spending.
There, I fixed it for ya.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
one more fix required
Submitted by abeautifulperson on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 1:57am.
how about this:
Republicans only care about the debt when they are out of office, and love to spend FAR MORE THAN liberals except republicans don't like to pay for their spending, they dump it on the next guy then point their finger at him.
there... much better.
Nice try, Punxsatawney---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 2:04am.
but for the fact you are dribbling liberal BS down your chin again.I really dont mind
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:30pm.
Steel going on these shows. Face it, he isnt going to attract die hard Conservatives, we are already here. But I bet he gets quite a few Indy's and dimwits peaking to the Right. And face it, once they explore the Right, we get them.
There isnt a dimwit anywhere, including here, that can articulat how their freedom stealing policies can possibly benefit our society. Not one!
Ignitable
Submitted by BrianBarkley on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:31pm.
When you threaten freedom, we get upset. We will be free and jerks on the left can't imagine why we feel so strongly about it. They're sure they know what's best for us and we just don't understand. They don't
Aren't we glad the GOP ousted this RINO?
Submitted by ArrowSmith on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:46pm.
I mean my GOD!
loblaw---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:04pm.
What is happening in Egypt, and what has occurred in Greece, can very easily take place in this country; and your comments about conservatives not wanting to pay for things is unwarranted.
Had you used the word "politicians" instead of conservatives reference not wanting to pay, your statement would have been more accurate.
MD