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By Matt Hadro | November 24, 2010 | 17:51

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Labeling the uproar over new TSA screening procedures as a "tempest-in-a-teapot," Harry Smith avoided pressing TSA chief John Pistole on CBS' "Early Show" Wednesday about the controversies of the new methods. Rather, Smith deferred to asking Pistole to explain the process further and "de-mythify" false rumors.

"There are so many myths about this, not the least of which is 'Well you know, the TSA guy, he's standing there, he can see your – you know what'," Smith told Pistole Wednesday on CBS' "The Early Show." Smith asked Pistole to "De-mythify this process a moment" and clarify that "somebody is in another room looking at this stuff. They never see your face."

"That is misinformation," Pistole responded to the "myths" Smith referred to.
 

Smith even helped Pistole explain the procedures to the American people, remarking how the new scanning methods recognize hidden objects that would not have been found at the time of the Christmas Day bomber. "This can see things that the other technology can't, especially, for instance, the sort of explosive that the guy was landing at Detroit airport had in his underwear last Christmas," Smith affirmed.

In addition, the CBS anchor characterized the backlash against the procedures as a "tempest-in-a-teapot." He then asked Pistole to respond to assumptions by the American people that the government is overstepping its bounds.

Finally, Smith asked if Pistole could have done a better job in explaining the controversial new procedures to the American people.

A transcript of the segment, which aired on November 24 at 7:05 a.m. EDT, is as follows:

HARRY SMITH: If people are heading to the airports, if they are heading there today, what is the single best piece of advice to get them through the screening process as quickly as possible?

TSA chief JOHN PISTOLE: Partnership, Harry. It really comes down to being prepared, knowing what to expect, and then just working in partnership with the men and women of TSA who just want to get you to your destination safely and securely.

SMITH: I've been talking – a lot of folks have been talking about this around the office for the last couple of days, there are so many myths about this, not the least of which is "Well you know, the TSA guy, he's standing there, he can see your – you know what." De-mythify this process a moment and explain that somebody is in another room looking at this stuff. They never see your face.

PISTOLE: No, there's been so much out there Harry – I appreciate the opportunity – that is misinformation. So obviously, the – if you go through an advanced imaging technology machine, which are in about 70 airports, almost 400 machines now – it is a blurred image – it's not a photograph or anything like that – it's a blurred image of the body seen by a security officer in another area, in a room. And that person never sees the passenger, and the security officer dealing with passengers never sees that image. The images are not stored, they're not capable of being stored or transmitted, and obviously no cell phones, cameras, or anything are allowed in those security rooms –

SMITH: And the difference between –

PISTOLE: And so we tried to build into this privacy.

SMITH: And the difference between this technology and the technology that we're so accustomed to over the last couple of years is this can see things that the other technology can't, especially, for instance, the sort of explosive that the guy was landing at Detroit airport had in his underwear last Christmas.

PISTOLE: That's right, Harry. It detects things that the walk-through metal detector that we all know does not detect, such as the Christmas Day bomber who had that explosive device that was all non-metallic. So he could literally walk through the walk-through metal detector. If he did not have a thorough pat-down, he could get on that plane and kill everybody on board. So that's what we're trying to avoid.

SMITH: Alright, this has created its own sort of tempest-in-a-teapot, maybe even a little bigger than that. There are many people who are suggesting that the government is overreaching its bounds with both the kind of scanner and the pat-downs that come as a result of opting out. How do you respond to that?

PISTOLE: Well I think everybody wants to arrive safely, so everybody agrees on that. It's a balance between privacy and security, and as we've said, reasonable people can disagree about that. The most recent Gallup poll which just came out, I understand, indicates that 71 percent of the people who travel on a somewhat regular basis support our efforts to keep everyone safe, and balancing the security with those privacy protections we have in place.

SMITH: And last but not least, at the minimum, if you had it to do over again, would you have mounted some sort of public relations campaign to sort of roll this out in a way that the traveling public would have said "Oh, I get it. This is coming, and this is what I can expect"?

PISTOLE: Harry, we talked about that. And I made the decision not to do that because I was concerned that we would be not only informing everybody as we wanted to, but we'd also be informing terrorists that we had gaps in our security that we were trying to shore up. So it was a balance and I went with that decision to try to keep everybody safe.

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Baloney!

Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:21pm.

This nonsense about not doing a PR campaign for fear of informing the terrorists is BS, what better place to spout than CBS!  The only thing that happened with the terrorists with regards to this nonsense is that they are killing themselves with laughter of how demeaning the TSA is treating the American citizens.

But informing them there are gaps in security?  No, the informed thing that they know now is that the security is basically unchanged.  Security that THEY, the terrorists, have to worry about.  Everything that's happened since the beginning of this month will not have any effect on them WHATSOEVER.

-Jon

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De-mythify?

Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:41pm.

I didn't even know Harry had a speech impediment. 

And, the terrorists, of late, have been boarding flights overseas, or sending items from overseas.  How is groping a 7 or 8 year old autistic child going to stop an Abdulmutallab or Reid? 

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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Let's demythify, all right

Submitted by TheHistorian on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:58pm.

Put Janet Nepolitano's butt in the underwear bomber's underwear, and show us how they would have found it.  I call her a liar, and the fact that they would have found it a fabrication, not a myth.

“Liberals tend to put the onus of your success on society and conservatives on you and your family.”

Dennis Prager

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Horse manure....

Submitted by tampamom25 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:55pm.

I wonder how these people can get on television and lie with a straight face.    I don't care if the image is supposedly blurry, I will not subject myself to a naked scan of any type.  The only person who gets to touch my personal parts is my husband.  Let's see....they try to mix liquids, so now we are limited in what amount of liquid we can take on board. They use a shoe, so now we all have to take our shoes off.  They use underwear, so now we are scanned and groped.  These are not well thought out responses that increase our security.....they are reactions to situations.  If the American people tolerate this, the next step for terrorists is to insert items into body cavities where they won't show on the scanner or on a grope.

Groping and scanning is not the best way to find a terrorist.  Profiling (gasp!) is the way to do it, like they do in Israel.  All this talk about how profiling offends people?  Well, I'm offended by groping and scanning, but I'm apparently not in the group of people who really matter because no one cares if I'm offended.  Funny how it only applies to some people and not to others.

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They see everything else.

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:10pm.

"[S]omebody is in another room looking at this stuff. They never see your face."

And that matters, how?  If someone was peeking in your window watching your wife undress, would it really matter, in a privacy violation point of view, if they couldn't, you know, actually see her face?

Conversely; if someone was walking naked in a public street, but only a couple people sitting in a sidewalk cafe could see them, would it make it any less vulgar if that naked person wore a mask over their face?

Come on, people, you've GOT to come up with better excuses than that!

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

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Mr Pistole "de-myth-e-sizes"

Submitted by neutron on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:40pm.

If this offends anyone, I apologize. I'm just angry at all the libtards do to support the regime.

"It's a myth that we stretch testicles to their limits. We merely pull them enough to make the man's eyes water, so we can be sure that they are not plastic explosives.

"It's a myth that we feel the labia under a woman's underwear. It's the latex glove that does it, not us. Our latex gloves are the best money can buy!

"It's a myth that we inspect girl and boy scouts in uniform. We take them into a private room where they are told to remove the uniform before we inspect them.

"It's a not a myth that TSA screeners are recruited from the top schools. When the police catch child molesters near a top or even good school, we are asked to take them off their hands. We train them to be TSA agents, and they become productive members of society.

"It's a myth that a TSA screener was masturbating while running the full-body scanner. That was a German parody news blog. The truth is that most of them do it. We record the film, and later, in the break room, our agents relieve themselves from the stress of fondling passengers by masturbating wattching the full-body scans while in the privacy of our off-pubic, I mean public, areas."

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ID Cards with Passport

Submitted by neutron on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:43pm.

I hold a Top Secret (TS) clearance for my day job. The JPAS system makes it easy for any DoD facility to make sure I'm trusted before allowing me in.

If anyone wishes to travel abroad, you need a passport. Maybe we need to create a TSA clearance?

TSA could offer a program that would allow US citizens to apply for a TSA clearance. Each person would be given a background investigation. If they pass, they would have their passport info entered into a system that is checked pre-flight, even for domestic travel, and they are allowed to sail through the securtiy check point.  Like the TS clearance, the TSA clearance would require renewal every 5 years, with a refresher background investigation.

This will cost a lot less than the super-high-tech scanners and legion of super-gropers that are currently used at every airport. With the new TSA clearance, they would many fewer (public sector union) employees.

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OK, how much is the cost and . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 10:39pm.

. . . who pays for the investigation?

I believe that initial SSBIs run about $60,000-$80,000 these days, and 5-year bring-ups run about half that.  Additionally, the infrastructure for process millions of investigations has to be built.

Sounds pretty expensive.

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Gal---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 10:55pm.

merely chump change for the Obama Feds.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Depends on the level

Submitted by TheHistorian on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 10:44am.

The first thing they could do is issue TSA security passes for those who already hold CONFIDENTIAL or above clearances, or are in some sort of a federal "reliability" program like those who work with disposal of chemical weapons.  Don't know the exact number, but probably a million or better could be done this way.  Add in Active Duty Military, Reserves, and National Guard, and you probably have a doubling.

But, you do realize, that few to none young Arab Muslim men would be included in these security passes.  So we have just "profiled" them another way.  The people who will be screened, therefore, are reduced, but it may actually work.

“Liberals tend to put the onus of your success on society and conservatives on you and your family.”

Dennis Prager

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How about you submit to an on-air groping?

Submitted by Slyrr on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:56pm.

Hey Smithy-poo!

A 'tempest in a teapot', is it?  IS it??

Well then - why didn't you invite your guest, the TSA boss, to give you an on-the-air groping so you can lead by example and show the country how silly it is for them to be protesting?

Yes - all you liberal media wags, who hated 'wiretapping' so bad under Bush, but who absolutely LOVE being groped by the TSA under Obama - why don't you show us all how much you enjoy it - on the air - on your shows?

Stand there on your little stages, smiling, with the cameras rolling, and let a fat, ugly TSA thug grope and fondle you on the air in front of millions of people (or however many are left who actually WATCH your dying shows).

Show us all how it's done, liberal media.  Bend over and grab your ankles and let Janet Napoleon-O jam her arm in you all the way up to the elbow - so we can post it on youtube and see how much you enjoy having your genitals fondled by the Obama administration.  Show us how you think being 'Abu-Grabbed' is a GOOD thing by submitting to it yourselves on your shows.

Any takers among you liberal media types?

Anyone at all???

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
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De-stupify

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:13pm.

Someone really needs to de-stupify Harry Smith. (See, Harry?  I can make up cool sounding words too!  Do you think I could get a job at CBS? Maybe I can make a report about the need to depropgandisize the former Bush administration's press releases!)

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

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Stupify!

Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 11:46pm.

That's one of the spells on Harry Potter, must be a wizard that uses it on Smith before he goes on the air.

Nah, he comes by that naturally.

-Jon

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