Mike Barnicle to Air Travelers: If You're Upset, Take the Bus
Columnist Mike Barnicle had some pointed words on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Tuesday for travelers exasperated with the new TSA airport scanning procedures: "Take the train or take the bus."
"Here's a tip for travelers this Thanksgiving," the "Morning Joe" regular remarked Tuesday. "If you're upset about this at airports, take the train or take the bus." He added later in the show "Hop in your car and drive to Detroit," as another alternative for air travel.
Barnicle, continuing his rant from Monday, lamented that Americans are so upset with the controversial security procedures when the U.S. is involved in two wars and real unemployment stands at 15 percent. "This again, if we ever needed it, is proof-positive that we live in a time where we have such a limited attention-span as a nation, it is sickening," he preached. "We're now more afraid at airports, apparently, of being felt-up rather than blown-up in the air."
Neither "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski nor former Newsweek editor Jon Meacham challenged Barnicle's points. Meacham referenced the feeling of national pride and identity in the months following September 11 and thought that there would have been no uproar over such scanning methods back then.
Shortly after September 11, when armed National Guard members were present in airports, Meacham remarked that "Everyone felt as though you were in something together. You were willing – you would have been felt-up, you would have done the feeling-up."
"If an airliner had blown up over Detroit on Christmas Day, this conversation would feel very different," Meacham argued.
Brzezinski channeled the sentiments of the two guests, downplaying the controversy of the TSA scannings. "It's kind of in line with some of the complaints about this administration from the get-go," she complained. "What else are they supposed to do?"
A transcript of the segment, which aired on November 23 at 6:03 a.m. EDT, is as follows:
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: USA Today reports that the companies that supply the nation's body-scanning machines have more than doubled their spending on lobbying in the last five years. See, I think this is actually the real story, as opposed to the pat-downs, if something may not be working the way it should have been.
(...)
BRZEZINSKI: (After Pistole Video) (Grimaces) Does that help?
MIKE BARNICLE: You know, this again, if we ever needed it, is proof-positive that we live in a time where we have such a limited attention-span as a nation, it is sickening. We're now more afraid at airports, apparently, of being felt-up rather than blown-up in the air.
BRZEZINSKI: I don't disagree with that.
BARNICLE: Here's a tip for travelers this Thanksgiving. If you're upset about this at airports, take the train or take the bus.
BRZEZINSKI: Well, on the other hand, Willie –
BARNICLE: No. This is ridiculous.
(...)
JON MEACHAM: I just think there's this odd psychological factor, not only to what Barnicle's saying, but you know when you're traveling, you're sort of – like me, you're intrinsically harried. You know, just, it's hard, and you know, you've –
It's a pain in the neck.
MEACHAM: Children –
BRZEZINSKI: Trying to get somewhere.
MEACHAM: Trying to get somewhere in the lines, and – and so your tolerance and your capacity to remember why we're doing it diminishes in direct proportion –
BRZEZINSKI: But you know what, it's kind of in line with some of the complaints about this administration from the get-go. Because I completely agree with you, the issue about being worried about being felt-up rather than blown up is a perfect point. I agree with you, what else are they supposed to do? But it seems like this came out of nowhere. There was no rollout, no explanation.
BARNICLE: That's true.
BRZEZINSKI: No communication with the public. I mean, you show up at the airport and people are groping you, it's a little unusual. If you think perhaps –
(Crosstalk)
MEACHAM: Just remember how you felt in October-November of 2001, when those – the National Guard guys, the military guys were there, were armed. They were in the airports. Everyone felt as though you were in something together. You were willing – you would have been felt-up, you would have done the feeling-up.
BRZEZINSKI: Right.
MEACHAM: And that sense has disappeared and dissipated. And the threat is still there.
(...)
MEACHAM: If an airliner had blown up over Detroit on Christmas Day, this conversation would feel very different.
BRZEZINSKI: Exactly. I completely agree with you.
(...)
BRZEZINSKI: 64 percent support the use of full-body x-ray scanners, while 32 percent oppose it. Before we move on, I would just say that if the body scanners completely worked, that's probably the answer, but I'm not sure. I mean there are conflicts as to whether they actually make a difference.
BARNICLE: What do you suppose the question is that the 32 percent answered. How did they phrase the question. How could you be against this at an airport? Why would you be against a body scanner?
WILLIE GEIST: Invasion of privacy and radiation are the two things people point to.
BARNICLE: Then hop in your car and drive to Detroit.
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Barnicle likes cavity searches!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 6:23pm.
Nothing would please this koolaid drinker more that having Barney Fwank checking his transmission, while Obama inserted his dip stick under the hood!
Don't I seem to recall that Barnicle was one of the thousands of screaming liberals going off on Bush when he passed the Patriot Act, which was so invasive of our privacy? They listened to phone calls, for Christ's sake! How awful!
Ole Tingles
Submitted by Seashell on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:50pm.
had one of his hissy fits regarding this today. How Obama is trying so hard to keep us safe, and the stupid republicans complain about it-blah, blah, blah. I think we all remember his feelings on the Patriot act. What a little hypocritical blowhard crybaby.
So any Newsbusters history on Barnicle and wiretaps?
Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 6:42pm.
Did he say back then: "we're in two wars, dont call if you are concerned?" Or was he outraged
at alleged infringement of personal rights? I am telling you--this IS the perfect comparison.
Did Barny have a position back then?
Warrantless groping and warrantless eavesdropping are very similar (govt intrusion to prevent an attack), except the latter isnt nearly so offensive, ie where your junk is getting groped.
ANY MEDIA OR PERSONALITY IN FAVOR OF THE TSA needs to be revisited on their position of the eavesdropping :oD :oD :oD
Where's the bridge...I live in Hawaii
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 6:42pm.
Start by removing the "Jones act", then maybe I can take a Ship...
Yes Air travel is an option, so is the automobile.
7th century here we come.
You Didn't Build That.
In other words....
Submitted by tomchris on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:59pm.
...we're once again dumb, ingrateful Americans throwing a temper tandrum. Don't we realize our grobing goverment is here to help?
Sexual molestation or death?
Submitted by ThisnThat on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 6:55pm.
"We're now more afraid at airports, apparently, of being felt-up rather than blown-up in the air."
And will someone please explain to me why it has to be a choice?
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
Because of a ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:00pm.
plethora of pinheaded federal fools.
MD
The same fools
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 11:59pm.
The same fools who tell us "don't fly if you don't want to be (groped)" basically telling us to take the bus or train or drive there are now saying in a nutshell "when we're done with aviation, we're gonna do buses and trains next!"
Where will it stop with them? They are socialists/communists. It doesn't stop unless they are defeated or decide to give up. They don't seem to be giving up any time soon.
-Jon
The same fools are already thinking about it
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:54am.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/130549-next-step-for-body-sca...
We Are The 53%
Scanners, pat-downs, whatever.
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:09am.
So much for the freedom to travel.
Next will come the Nazis....er....cops....asking the ticketholders, "Your papers?"
Oh, wait!! They can't do that! Arizona tried that!
Having to prove whether one has the right to be here is verboten!
Plagarist body searches
Submitted by Herbster on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:17pm.
Let's keep it all in the family........Next Monday, on the Morning Joe (Joke) Show, they should have Mike (The plagarist) Barnicle given a crotch search by Doris (The plagarist) Kearns Goodwin. Instead of playing "Doctor," they could play that new game called "TSA!"
A happy and blessed Thanksgiving to all.
Mike Barnicle
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:18pm.
is a disgusting little excuse for a man. He should be put on public display for ridicule.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Barnicle's View the opposite
Submitted by exLib on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:21pm.
When Barnicle had a radio show a large portion of his diatribes were directed at GWBush and his intrusion into our personal lives.
This same diatribe directed at the American People for protesting getting groped when it's not necessary is the same line he directed at Bush when Bush put troops in Iraq. He called the President and VP silver spooners who only crushed a beer can and had no business sending troops into battle. And that Bush and Cheney were part of a "privileged class" of people who were spoiled and never did any work.
Clearly Barnicle is a partisan and will have the viewpoint that indicts the conservative no matter what they do. This guy is so out there he got fired in Massachusetts for being out of line.
He is also a great example of a do as I say, not as I do liberal. Constantly telling stories on his radio show about how things were different when he was young, personal responsibility, etc. Yet all the policies he supports go the opposite direction. Ok for him, not for the stupid public.
Barnicle?
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:37pm.
I used to scrape him off boat hulls.
Hey Barnacle..............I
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:42pm.
Hey Barnacle..............I don't think too many people 'hop in their cars and drive to Detroit'......it's been ruined by the people that you kow-tow to..........and now you're still backing these people as they continue to rape and piilage our freedoms and our rights as Americans.
Obviously, learning a few things from the Israelis about security would be asking too much for guys like Barnacle to understand.............
Detroit is mostly
Submitted by Van Halen on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:26pm.
Detroit is mostly black.
Barnacle says people should drive to Detroit, not fly.
Why does Barnacle hate the idea of blacks flying on planes?
Why is he so racist?
Good point,
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 11:35pm.
Good point, Eddie...........why is he picking on Detroit??? Why does he hate blacks?? Are they going to drive in their Government Motors cars??? Would they be singled out in the airport lines?? Is HE going to get groped and poked so that he can fly to Detroit??? I'll bet the Barnacle wouldn't go near Detroit if somebody paid him a lot of money..............it may have the same political persuasion that he does, but it's NOT 'elitist'.......................
Barnicle
Submitted by Bradford on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:43pm.
He should take a boat. Oh yeah, they don't like Barnicles on boats or planes or trains or buses...
MIKE BARNICLE: You know, this
Submitted by dculling on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:49pm.
MIKE BARNICLE: You know, this again, if we ever needed it, is proof-positive that we live in a time where we have such a limited attention-span as a nation, it is sickening. We're now more afraid at airports, apparently, of being felt-up rather than blown-up in the air.
What I'm afraid of is an incompetent boob like you in a position of power like yours that is unelected and unanswerable to the people and too arrogant or stupid to even consider far less offensive and more effective measures that the Israelis, the experts at anti-terrorism, have used for years.
I'm beginning to believe that all this is an intentional power grab. A government that can strip you and grope you can, eventually, do anything to you.
And when this type of
Submitted by Maideneer on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 7:59pm.
And when this type of harrassment shows up at the bus station, what then doofus?
Anybody else having trouble posting on the "BLOG" articles?
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:03pm.
I can post on the front page, "HOME," but if I load the "BLOG" page it logs me out, and when I hit "post comment" I get the "You are not authorized to access this page " message.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I sent you a buddy request
Submitted by Rukus on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:18pm.
Seems you haven't been nuked. I'm not having any probs with it. Maybe the blog page don't like awesome baby back ribs... reload friend!
Ruk,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:49pm.
I got it.
I think I have found a work around. I opened NB in Opera and now open the blog page in another tab while keeping the home page opened in another.
Seems to be working for now.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Glad to have you as a buddy
Submitted by Rukus on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:18pm.
Should have done it many moons ago...: )
Dave, I get de-logged each
Submitted by celator on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:35pm.
Dave, I get de-logged each and every time after I post on either blog or home pages. I then have to relog--and sometimes this works and sometime it doesn't. If it doesn't I have to get off NB, clear cookies and try again. Not very user friendly, is it?
This NB web page transition has been a catastrophe from beginning to end.
I second that!
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:44pm.
I second that!Same here, except I haven't
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:46pm.
Same here, except I haven't had to leave the site and clear cookies--just the annoyance of continually having to sign in again.
Jer
Cel, MB and Jer,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:47pm.
See my above comment. It might work for you guys, too.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
You too?
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:02pm.
I asked about this the other day. Every time I post, I get logged out, sometimes, not ofter, but once in a great while, the post disappears into the ethernets, along with my log-in. And, even thought the sign in and password are saved, they don't always show up, either.
Not very user-friendly, so far.
testing~
Submitted by GG_NB on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:52pm.
to see what happens after this post.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
~OMO
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:11pm.
GG! GG! Can you hear me? GG?!
She vanished! *gasp* Oh crap, oh crap, what do we do now?
Okay, you, you, and you, panic. The rest of you, come with me.
Wait...wait...I'm confused.
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:22pm.
Wait...wait...I'm confused. Am I supposed to panic or follow you? Forget it, I'm going to get pizza. [But in case GG asks, I was desperately searching for her the whole time.]
Jer
~You..
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:37pm.
..you we sent for cherry cokes and chocolate. Pizza is cool too, just don't forget the important stuff.
Oh, and GG. We gotta find her. I'll check the pocket in my other jacket, you look under the sofa cushions. If you find any money, stuff it in the collection jar. We're putting together a fund to get Ted a hairpiece.
Hahahahahaha~
Submitted by GG_NB on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:26am.
Thank you, guys! I sooooo needed a laugh -- you're the best! Oh, except you, Jer. You stink!! PIzza, really? I'm lost in cyberspace, and your first thought is that you could go for a pizza? I knew I should have pushed you off the roof when I had a chance. ;)
The truth? I completely forgot I left that test message. I was supposed to be checking to see if posting with the blog section was going to work...and then I started the laundry...watched "Dancing with the Stars"...started work on a morning deadline...and I had this nagging feeling I forgot to do something. Oh, yeah...my test message. I can see how that looked reallllly weird.
Uh, yes, I'm here. I'm here, in all my ditzy ways. ((^_^))
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Found her!!!
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:48am.
While you guys were goofing off, the Restless 1 here was ever vigilant and on the case.
Now, back to my beer and college basketball.
My hero~Restless 1
Submitted by GG_NB on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:39am.
Thanks for the lift. :) The whole experience gave me a big headache...and I didn't even get to see Minnie and Mickey dressed up in pilgrim/indian costumes.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
I just got back!
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:02am.
Sheesh, she's been here the whole time and nobody decided to call and let me know? I've been looking for HOURS!!
Denny Crane
We Are The 53%
~Hmmmm...
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:22pm.
Yeah, we know where you really were, Toney. You can't fool me, I can smell the tequila on you!
Hey Toney*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:58pm.
I don't care what day it is, its your job to restock the fridge!...
Happy Thanksgiving.
Back at ya Cajun
Submitted by Denny Crane on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 8:39pm.
I had a Great Thanksgiving here in tomorrowland!
Sorry if you were looking in the empty fridge
But sake is served warm!!
Happy Thanksgiving! You too Bru!!!
"Lib free or die"
We Are The 53%
is it just me...
Submitted by 3strikes on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:10pm.
or does it seem like the government WANTS travelers to boycott the airline industry.
I know... its an off-the-wall conspiracy theory, but what quicker way is there to kill a huge "global warming" industry than to force people to go through security procedures that they can no longer tolerate.
If the Government were actually concerned about security, then they would target the people most likely to be commit terrorist acts.
3strikes, that isn't far-fetched at all
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:18pm.
I think this just may be a prelude to the Obamanistas ultimately seizing the airline industry.
When you look at what has happened in just the first two years of this presidency from Hell, it would make perfect sense.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Napolitano's Grope and Goose
Submitted by celator on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:19pm.
Napolitano's Grope and Goose policy will likely be extended beyond aircraft passengers.
From Drudge: BIG SIS: Next step for body scanners could be trains, boats, metro...
If this crazy woman and her stooge Pistole partner aren't stopped, we will see the day that the Feds knock down the door to our homes and demand that we strip and bend over, smile and shuddap, and be examined because the jihadist live in homes so they have a right to a warrantless search of our homes. This is sexual battery in many jurisdictions but, er, it's all "for our own safety."
Taking the Bus. A GREAT idea
Submitted by Calypso Jones on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:25pm.
we could see the resurgence of two great American traditions AND BUSINESSES.....greyhound and Trailways. SEE AMERICA. FEEL THE PRIDE.
Unfortunately,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:28pm.
the current TSA regime's mantra is FEEL the BODY, SEE AMERICA NUDE.
MD
The frellin' terrorist's are loving this!
Submitted by Rukus on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 8:26pm.
The way I see it, the frickin' terrorist's are loving this! They are getting what they want, us being subjected to crap we shouldn't have to because of them. Ef 'em!!! I say put a machine that detonates any explosive found on detection, BOOM! Problem solved. The unions can clean up the mess.
TSA Motto
Submitted by Calypso Jones on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:07pm.
TSA Motto suggestions:
You can't see London,
You can't see France,
Until we see your underpants.
or.
TSA, Handling more packages than Fed Ex
Post of the Day
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:46pm.
Waiting for Bob Keyser to immortalize your words in yet another classic photoshop.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I still think they should
Submitted by 26CX on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:52pm.
I still think they should change their name from TSA to T&A.
Doesn't fit
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:29pm.
T&A usually implies something pleasant. (oink btw) These bastiches are anything but pleasant.
In all seriousness though, and Rush was talking about it which was my fear all along, we need to put a stop to this because it'll lead up to something worse. This is just the first of a few steps, and God help us, it's like Hitler repeating history all over again.
We see it happening and we need to make it stop before it's too late.
This isn't paranoia, this is observation.
And time is running out....very quickly too.
edit: why Time is running out, Big Sis said this:
“I think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going on to mass transit or to trains or maritime. So, what do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections there?”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/130549-next-step-for-body-scanners-could-be-trains-boats-and-the-metro-
This is also known as "restricting travel." They WANT to do this. They have to be stopped. TODAY.
-Jon
~TSA slogans
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:18pm.
Grope discounts available.
If we did our job any better, we'd have to buy you dinner first.
Only we know if Lady Gaga is really a lady.
Don't worry, my hands are still warm from the last guy.
Throw a few back at the airport Chili's and you won't even notice.
Wanna fly? Drop your fly.
We are now free to move about your pants
We rub you the wrong way, so you can be on your way.
It's not a grope. It's a freedom pat.
When in doubt, we make you whip it out.
TSA: Touchin', Squeezin', Arrestin'
We handle more packages than the USPS
No Shirt, No Shoes, No Problem
Let your fingers do the Walking
Turn your head and cough
Reach out and touch someone
Can you feel me now?
When we're done with you, you'll need a cigarette
ROTFLMAO
Submitted by 26CX on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:22pm.
GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!
Bru,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:59pm.
ROFLMAO!
Damn, that is funny.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Wrathful one
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:05am.
You are the best!
Denny Crane
We Are The 53%
Barnacle: Tell this to your
Submitted by Slyrr on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 9:50pm.
Barnacle: Tell this to your shrinking pool of listeners:
If you TSA people don't like the way groping makes you feel - then QUIT.
Problem: Some cars have squeaky wheels.
Smart Solution = Fix cars with squeaky wheels
Dumb solution = stop every car at random to see of any of them have wheels that squeak
Smart Solution: Profile muslim terrorists and grope them, fondle them, whatever
Dumb Solution: Grope everyone else and let the terrorists off scott-free
Oops
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:48pm.
Wrong thread.
Vote for the American in November
No, Dave
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 11/27/2010 - 7:18pm.
...this is the right thread. GG's been found, though, so you can quit looking. See above.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
I remember when Conservatives said...
Submitted by m4ster chief on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 10:06pm.
..."America, love it or leave it!" Liberals replied that they didn't have to leave, but they would protest and use civil disobedience (not to say that they were ever "civil" during their disobedience) to change the things they didn't like.
So, taking a page from their playbook...why should we take the bus, or drive? Just protest and use civil disobedience to combat the TSA. You see there, Libs?...we learned from you!
When Bush was president, the
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 11:15pm.
When Bush was president, the liberals said everything his administration did for airline security was an overreaction to a paranoid fear of a terrorist attack - even the color-coded levels of the threat of a terrorist threat were sneered at . Now Obama's in, Barnicle and others are screeching that we should go along with the government's searches or else be "blown out of the sky". Gee, when Bush was president, the most intrusive airport security got was a mirror stuck under our cars at the airport entrance, now they might be planning on sticking mirrors under dresses...
Hey boat-hull clinger, why don't you take a long hike...
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 11:00pm.
...off a short pier.
All you really are is a useful idiot for tyrannical government goober-cheeses like Obama and his hand-picked lackey Janet "Reno II" Incompetano.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Headline: Barnicle, MSNBC and Morning Joe hate airlines!
Submitted by neutron on Tue, 11/23/2010 - 11:29pm.
Today's top story, in a blatant disregard for the impact on airline pilots and flight attendant unions, MSNBC hosts of Morning Joe and the guest columnist Mike Barnicle repeated trashed travelers, urging them to not even bother with the TSA screenings and not use airlines to travel. Any future decrease in the already beleagured airline passenger/seat/mile rates should fall squarely on Barnicle and MSNBC Morning Joe's shoulders!
Just so you'll know, Barnicle...
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:12am.
...it takes two days to ride a bus from New York to Los Angeles.
And the TSA grope-a-thon in no way could've guaranteed discovering something like the "underwear bomber" methodology.
We could profile.
Do background checks.
But oh, that might offend some groups. Better to molest everyone. Or irradiate them.
--Mike
Odds
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:38am.
What are the odds of being groped at a TSA checkpoint. 1 in 10,000 (I just made that up)
What are the odds of being killed by a terrorist on an airplane 1 in 25,000,000. (That's a fact)
What are the odds of being struck by lightning 1 in 500,000 (fact)
What are the odds of dying in Car crash 1 in 50 (fact)
This is a blatant violation of our civil rights.
There are 2 things that bother me realy realy badly.
First, most people will have different levels of discomfort going through this, but what about the women that have been raped? Sexually assaulted? I can't imagine how hard it would be for them to go through this ordeal, for no reason what so ever. Odds of being sexually asaulted are 1 in 6.
Second, What about children? It will desensitize them to what is apropriate, and considered acceptable by those in law enforcement. How soon will it be that some pervert dressed like an officer use the excuse "it's for your safety" to sexually asault a child?
We Are The 53%
Thank you Denny Crane*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 5:32pm.
I have been trying all morning to post the very same issue you have just explained so well.( NB is very frustrating)
The hypocritical ideologs in power never consider consequences such as traumatizing those who may have issues with such invasive procedures yet we must not offend the sensibilities of those who have vowed to destroy us.
Be it the economy, safety, immigration or foreign policy, the common theme with this administration in my opinion is very anti-American. When will the people wake up and see that the highest levels of our own government hate us more than our avowed enemies? Their agenda is to stop all that damn liberty, and individual freedom stuff that makes us unique throughout the world. Destroy freedom and liberty here and then we will indeed have a global society.
The elitist care for success of their agenda and care not if harm is done to women and children. Individual rights no longer are important and we must all make sacrifices, to complete the transformation of America. Sacrifices the elitist believe they are excluded from having to endure.
Barnicle's advice = AQ victory
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:54pm.
As AQ's strategy published in Inspire maagzine states, in lieu of spectacular attacks against the West becoming more difficult to pull off, jihadists are encouraged to take minor actions that cost the West money in security expenditures and lost time.
If people listen to Barnicke and drive vice fly, the airline industries will face bankruptcy and no doubt look for a government bail-out. Hence, AQ suceeds again.