Obama's Commerce Nominee: Cap and Trade Good for ‘Hiding’ Carbon Taxes
John Bryson, President Obama’s nominee to head the Commerce Department, told a University of California Berkeley audience in 2010 that a cap and trade system was a good way to hide a carbon tax from the public.
Bryson, formerly the CEO of Edison International, said that a carbon tax was the new “third rail” of politics because politicians wouldn’t want to tax energy directly.
“I think it’s still unlikely there’ll be a carbon tax bill because I think in the end a very high percentage of the members of Congress think it’s kind of the third rail to support a tax, even if it’s a carbon tax,” Bryson said.
“Greenhouse gas legislation, either with a tax or with cap and trade – which is a more complicated way of getting at it but it has the advantage of politically sort of hiding the fact that you have a tax – but that’s what you’re trying to do,” he added.
Bryson said that carbon taxes – whether open or hidden in a cap and trade regime – were still not the best way to reduce energy consumption and greenhouse gasses. The best way, he said, was a robust system of regulations that penalized energy producers for producing more energy than the government deemed necessary.
“In the great debate between economists and others about whether we ought to be proceeding primarily with market signals or regulatory steps, I believe we ought to do both,” He said. “But the regulatory steps act right now [with] immediate requirements.”
Bryson explained that setting high targets for renewable energy production was the best way to go, rather than waiting for a carbon tax to take effect in the market.
“At our company [Edison International] for example we have quite a large wind energy business across the United States – the drivers are the portfolio standards, the renewable portfolio standards, those are mandates – it’s like the investor-owned utilities in California – 33 percent [renewables] by 2020. That’s a driver. You’re not messing around with what’s the price signal going to be. If you don’t get that done, you get penalized in a big way.”
Bryson was explaining how regulations that force energy companies to adopt a certain amount of green energy worked faster and more directly than policies like a carbon tax or a cap and trade system.
With a carbon tax or cap and trade regime, the government simply tries to put a price on carbon emissions, under the assumption that utility companies will begin producing more green energy because it isn’t affected by the tax or the carbon caps. With regulation, the government simply sets the amount of renewable energy a company must produce, rather than trying to nudge the companies to do it.
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I certainly hope
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:45am.
that Senate Rs put this guy through the grinder and expose his blatant socialism.
For our resident libs, "socialism" is not a baseless pejorative, nor an ad hominem attack. The exercise of state control over the means of production (i.e., central planning) is one of the hallmarks of a socialist state.
Now, the fact that Bryson thinks it's just hunky-dory to engage in obfuscatory tactics in order to achieve his political ends--that just makes him a low-down, cowardly, back-stabbing snake. "Obama guy" is useful shorthand.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Unfortunately...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 9:31pm.
Senate RINOs like McCain and Graham are going to make it near impossible to filibuster his nomination. And even if that happens, Red Reid will simply let Obama put this guy in with a recess appointment.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
From the Wall Street
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:11am.
From the Wall Street Journal: Secretary Of Subsidy
The rest of the short article outlines the failures Byron's leadership accrued. The right man for the job, Byron will continue the destruction of our economy as envisioned by the Left.
Did anyone truly believe Obama would nominate someone not supportive of "foundational" change?
Fascistcrats wonder why, business is afraid to invest in America
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:45am.
The best way, he said, was a robust system of regulations that penalized energy producers for producing more energy than the government deemed necessary.
Everywhere else on the planet, this would be a GOOD thing.
What's next..... Your main panel box will now only have one 20 amp circuit, yes you will need to share the load.
When driving only get to fill up on odd days....don't be fuelish. Tire pressure, more insulation better windows
Gawd we heard this crap in the 70's.(not the circuit breaker story)
With o'bama there is truly nothing new under the sun.
I don't know 50 dollar light bulbs isn't hiding anything, it's the carbon monopoly right in your face.
You Didn't Build That.
Countdown to flatline: world carbon trading market falls
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 1:02pm.
– World Bank reports rumblings of possible failure
The international market in carbon credits has suffered an almost total collapse, with only $1.5bn (£916m) of credits traded last year…
Certified Emission Reductions (CERs) market, which accounts for the bulk of project-based transactions, fell by double digits for a variety of reasons, including lower demand for credits and competition from more predictable assets
You Didn't Build That.
So Greedy!
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 2:15pm.
It's amazing, to me anyways, that the Liberals are proposing the "regulation" of "greenhouse gasses" in a way that generates MONEY for one cause or another. Whether it is via taxes, which generates revenue for the federal government, or "cap and trade,' which generates revenue for some "official" trading company (insurance exchange, anyone?), all they seem interested in is profiting from "emissions" which doesn't actually LIMIT them! Be honest with us: you don't care about actually limiting emissions, you simple want to PROFIT from them!
Just as is evident with the "insurance exchange" of their health care "reform," all they are interested in is making money, money which THEY can control. And they call Conservatives greedy! What a bunch of fricken hypocrites!
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Submitted by IdahoJim on Thu, 06/02/2011 - 7:17pm.
I just want to change one word and see if it makes any sense.
"For our resident libs, "environmentalism" is not a baseless pejorative, nor an ad hominem attack. The exercise of state control over the means of production (i.e., central planning) is one of the hallmarks of a socialist state."
Yea! That does clear up a few things. Thanks for the loan.
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