Tamron Hall Chides Ex-Bush Aide for Not Cheering Obama on Libya
Want to watch an MSM version of Stand By Your Man? Check out the video here after the jump. Tamron Hall, theoretically an MSNBC show "host" and not a pundit, gets visibly upset with Michael Singh, a former foreign policy adviser to President George W. Bush. Singh's sin? Apparently being insufficiently enthusiastic in his praise of President Obama's handling of the Libyan situation.
The irony is that Singh is anything but an isolationist. Singh supported the Libyan intervention and hardly came across as a hard partisan. But apparently anything short of fully prostrated praise for the prez is enough to bring down the Wrath Of Hall.
IWatch the normally affable Tamron get ticked!
TAMRON HALL: We have a number of members of the GOP who are running for president who criticized the strategy of this president, and now here we are watching the rule of Qaddafi end six months after the United States and NATO launched these attacks, and the unprecedented coalition as the president saw it. So, looking at what's playing out now, this administration seems to have made the right call here.
MICHAEL SINGH: Well, I think it's natural now that the president would try to take some credit for what seems to at least tentatively be a successful conclusion to this phase of what's happening in Libya.
HALL [getting exercised]: And what's wrong with that?--when he was heavily criticized by many including Mitt Romney, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann. And he did not take credit--he applauded the coalition, the decision made to have these strikes. He would be criticized if it did not work and it appears to have worked. So are you unable to say that the decision made by this administration was the right decision?
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Libya: This is how to topple a regime
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:27pm.
1. Send aid to in country rebels looking to topple evil dictator
2. Support those rebels with air power and arms only, absolutely no boots on the ground
3. Organize a grand coalition and give operational control to our allies
4. Rinse and repeat as needed until the tyrant is defeated
Viola! Obama is a genius. This should have been done in Iraq in 2003, Afghanistan in 2002, Iraq again in 1991, Vietnam in 1963, Korea in 1950, Germany and Japan in 1941, Germany again in 1917, Spain in 1898, the Indians around 1875, the South in 1861, Mexico in 1848, the Barbary Pirates in 1804, and against England in 1776.
You Neo-Cons and your wars of expansion and imperialism! Obama has a better way.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
NO this is how you BREAK THE LAW
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:15pm.
ITS CALLED THE WAR POWERS ACT Which boy blunder thumbed his nose at!
Agreed......
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:46pm.
You are absolutely correct! This is one of many violations of the Constitution, and contempt of Congress. O'Blame-o has been ruling by decree since day one...stroke of the pen, law of the land. This IMO makes him a dictator, and yet a great deal of people dont see it, since the LSM wont report on it. Can you just imagine the rage if a Republican president acted this way? IMO, he should be impeached, he has abused his executive order privilege, and uses it as a way to skirt every Congressional act, and parts of the Constitution he does not agree with. I do believe this falls under the "High crimes and misdemeanors" that call for impeachment. Does ANYONE in Congress have the courage to initiate impeachment charges??
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
um... yeah
Submitted by ArcherB on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:43pm.
And remember, he did it in "...days, not weeks". It has taken about 180 days so far, so it was accurate to say "days". Also, 180+ days is measured in months, so it is accurate that it has not necessarily been weeks.
So, what he said was correct... from a certain point of view. I guess it depends on how far you willing to bend your principles to support this guy. So far, it looks like the media is willing to bend pretty far.
"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."
--Ernesto "Che" Guevara
This is Why He Toppled It
Submitted by JustAl on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:54pm.
1. Afore mentioned evil dictator renounced terorrism and WMD development allowing open inspections so the US wouldn't do exactly what Ohamtser did. (That should teach those despots around the world to believe us when we offer guarantees so they'll disarm).
2. Afore mentioned evil dictator was deposed by jihadists who openly bragged about killing Americans in Afghanistan last year. Now, thanks again to Ohamster, maybe they can get back to Afghanistan before the snow flies. After all, by denying the troops requested, then prematurely taking away what he did send, he's pretty much made the rest sitting ducks.
It seems pretty obvious his goal is to empower and embolden enemies of the United States and broaden the power of fundamentalist islam.
You Neo-socialists and your wars against American interests! Obama's way is clear. . . and it's out the back door with the rest of the trash.
Not quite clear
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:01pm.
Sorry, JustAl. I'm not quite sure what you're saying. Are you implying that we couldn't have won WW2 if we didn't emulate The Obama Way?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
I"m Saying
Submitted by JustAl on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:20pm.
Libya was none of our business. His fumbling has cost us $millions and we will be left in a worse position.
I'm saying you don't fight wars just to boost your polls, and you don't change strategy in wars just to boost your polls. War isn't a game and no war, none, can be won without "boots on the ground".
Obama didn't "win" anything in Libya except the mistrust of everyone we offer a "peaceful" solution to with regards to disarmament. If we'd stayed the hell out of it, the jihadists who did win, would have been tied up for years (and many of them killed). But now the POS you seem to worship has saved the day for them, so they can live to fight (us) another day. And now that the afore mentioned POS has thinned the line in Afghanistan they can do even more damage.
Please explain who you could possibly, under any circumstances think I was talking about WW2.
PS
Please accept my sincere apologies, I had not recognized the sarcasm intended by your original post. My son has had a couple of really close calls recently and his unit has suffered more casualties in the last month than the one they replaced did in their entire deployment. I reacted emotionally (as a liberal would) without re-reading your post in it's entirety. Mia Copa my friend, Mia Copa.
No Apologies Needed
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:24pm.
No need to apologize, JustAl. I wish all the best for your son and hope he gets to come home soon.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
I second that, Kingfish
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:03pm.
My prayers and best wishes to your son and your family JustAl.
God speed!
'Bama Bound
Submitted by markprice1983 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:27pm.
What are the odds that this "journo" is not in the 26 percent of the populace that thinks BO is doing a fine job?
"Unprecedented?"
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:55pm.
Did she just say "unprecedented coalition?" What's unprecedented about it? President GHW Bush had a 80 nation member coalition during Desert Storm, including Saudi Arabia! As far as NATO "humanitarian" military involvement in foreign countries, does anyone remember Bosnia? The only thing "unprecedented" about Obama and Libya is that Obama launched the attacks BEFORE NATO was involved and any "coalition" was formed.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Unprecedented
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:58pm.
for a Democrat.
Not really
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:17pm.
JFK/Johnson had a "coalition" in Vietnam (France, Australia, New Zealand). Not a very big one, a couple of hundred troops on the Australian side for example, but a coalition nonetheless. It is "unprecedented" for the First Black American President. I wonder if that is what she meant?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
RE Allied troops in Vietnam
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:17pm.
During JFK/LBJ years, the French were gone, but among the most effective allied troops in country were the Australian Task Force (which included a small number of New Zealanders), and the South Koreans (ROK), who had two ROK infantry divisions operating in the Central Highlands where their fighting prowess and unrelenting handling of the Viet Cong reduced VC activity to practically nil. There was also a ROK Marine brigade attached to the USMC III MAF in CTZ I adjacent to the DMZ.
There is nothing unprecedented in Obama's 'coalition.' Clinton ran a similar NATO coalition in Operation Allied Force, where the US assumed the predominant strike role.
Obama also violated the War Powers Act . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:20pm.
. . . which his predecessors complied with, so maybe that's unprecedented. I've gotten the impression of the last 10-15 years that the majority of news talkers are relatively ignorant of history, and that's why they are prone to echo talking points rather than adequate assess situations.
The real question isn't -- nor has it been -- about whether or not Gaddafi's regime survived; it's about what takes its place. If Libya devolves further into inter-tribal retributions and warfare, what does NATO do, and what kind of legal and moral commitments do we have, and how much will it cost?
But just like the killing of bin Laden, the MSMers will rush to hang a "Mission Accomplished" sign on Libya. Watch out for the coining of the term Obama Doctrine.
The WPA is ...
Submitted by Bodini on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:30pm.
... one of many of the laws of this nation that BO has ignored with a complicit blind-eye from the Marxist Media!
Thye assume we are
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:37pm.
"I've gotten the impression of the last 10-15 years that the majority of news talkers are relatively ignorant of history, and that's why they are prone to echo talking points rather than adequate assess situations."
It's my impression that they assume, that we, the little man, is ignorant of history, or any other subject for that matter, and that we'll accept anything they say as fact whether what they say is true or not. After all, most of the journalists are college graduates and, therefor, "well educated," unlike the majority of Americans, most of whom never did, nor never will, attend college. The reason that they repeat it so often is that they believe that we will accept a falsehood to be true though simple repetition.
There's a big problem with that doctrine: Repeat a lie often enough... and people will find out it's a lie.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
They are desperate for some
Submitted by NC Cop on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:38pm.
They are desperate for some sort of foreign policy "win" for this president. Desperate. The OBL bump didn't last as long as they had hoped.
Must be the sh***y economy.........hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Wasn't the inconvenience of
Submitted by HelenS on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:34pm.
Wasn't the inconvenience of the Arab Spring, the Japanese tsunami, and the European economy, what stood between him and lasting fame?
Sad how reality keeps derailing his fantasy world.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Please.
Submitted by phryingphish on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:58pm.
Please don't praise Dear Leader until the law of unintended consequence delivers it's final punch. When the government of Lybia turns from Qaddafi’s totalitarian system to the Al Qaeda Home Land who will take the credit, who will be given the blame?
Tea Party
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:03pm.
Hey, Obama gave us a friendly, democratic regime in Libya, and they would have been the model of a modern democratic Muslim state, had it not been for Tea Party brinksmanship.
But you know the drill.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
My goodness...
Submitted by Djinn1975 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:29pm.
You are a quick learner, aren't you? I'm sure you excelled in the retraining from the throat up and knee toughening portions of your training. I do have to admit you are correct on two points. 1) He has shown us a way, half-assed and one that has been done throughout history, but just like everything else he has done that was done before and 2) We most definitely know the drill, organize a coalition of voters, ensure that the greatest abject failure to ever infect the White House is sterilized at 4 years.
How about you, Djinn1975?
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:39pm.
Are you a quick learner, Djinn1975? After being an NB member for roughly 22 weeks, have you learned to recognize obvious sarcasm?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
You forgot the <sarc> tag
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:46pm.
You forgot the <sarc> tag.
</sarc>
On Edit: How interesting! I tried to "use" the </sarc> in the plain text editor and it disappeared when I posted the comment! Yet, there it in the edit box. I had to use rich text editor for it to appear in the post.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
SARC!
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:04pm.
I just dont' see how anybody could read anything else then sarcasm in my post. "Tea Party Brinksmanship" with regards to the future government in a post Khadafi Libya?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Friendly ?
Submitted by texusmc on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:50pm.
Ok you are obviously a troll that has not provided any links, or direct quotes to back yourself up but here are few to back ME up. First, no such thing as a friendly democratic regime but on the right path.
The rebel Transitional National Council of Libya is more democratic than the Qadhafi regime and represents a wide spectrum of the country, the Obama Administration has said.“This is obviously not the democratic end state that we’re looking for in Libya, nor is it the democratic end state that the TNC itself is looking for. TNC has set itself on a road map that leads to elections and leads to the right of every Libyan to vote for their leadership.
http://connect.in.com/libya/news/tnc-more-democratic-than-qadhafi-regime...
"U.S. Freezes a Record $30 Billion in Libyan Assets"
and in case you just missed it, here it is again
"U.S. Freezes a Record $30 Billion in Libyan Assets"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/01/world/africa/01assets.html
Don't see Tea Party any where in that NY Times headline or article.
Now if you mean the Tea Party wanted to ensure that we followed the law in declaring wat then yes, they did attempt to block an illegal war
"Libya intervention: Tea party and liberal Democrats make unusual allies"
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0321/Libya-intervention-Tea-p...
and to quote the artilce listed above
“Imposing a no-fly zone over a country is an act of war,” said Rep. Ron Paul (R) of Texas, noting that the air war over Libya occurred on the anniversary of the US attack on Iraq. Like Iraq, “this could go on for a long time,” despite White House claims to the contrary, he added"
and
"On the left, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) of Ohio said: “War from the air is still war,” and called on Congress to be called back into session immediately to decide whether or not to authorize the United States’ participation in a military strike. “Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution clearly states that the United States Congress has the power to declare war. The president does not. That was the founders’ intent.”
and since you missed that here is the actual part yet again
“Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution clearly states that the United States Congress has the power to declare war. The president does not. That was the founders’ intent.”
So get a clue and back yourself up with facts.
have to agree with CM. If you were going for the sarc factor, ensure you use sarc on or off.
Or just maybe....
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:34pm.
Or maybe a long standing stalwart conservative/libertarian member who was just engaging in a little harmless fun and sarcasm.
When the new "government" in Libya doesn't turn out to be a loyal, democratic, pro-western, Muslim utopia, the MSM is going to point to "Tea Party Brinksmanship" as the reason.
Go back and re-read the question to which I was responding. Phryingphis asked:
"When the government of Lybia turns from Qaddafi’s totalitarian system to the Al Qaeda Home Land who will take the credit, who will be given the blame?"
The Tea Party getting the blame? That's so over-the-top that it will only fly on the MSM and in liberal land!!
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
No, the Tea party will not get the blame.
Submitted by phryingphish on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:53pm.
No, the Tea party will not get the blame. Bush will
and Obama will be sitting in front of a teleprompter saying "See, I told you it would happen just like this."
And the MSM and obamabots will nod their heads and agree with whatever the teleprompter says.
To Do Is To Be: Aristotle
To Be Is To Do: Socrates
Doobie Doobie Doo: Sinatra
D'oh: Simpson
Hay, who turned off my teleprompter?: Obama
I picked up
Submitted by texusmc on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 9:14am.
on the Sarcasim after I had posted my response. I apologize. But yes IF it (Libya) does finally oust Qadhafi, the new "democratic" gov't that is having Sharia law in its constitution fails, the LSM will blame everyone including the Tea Party.
we can Hope it will Change but I doubt it will.
Ummm...ticked?
Submitted by Spud on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:58pm.
You call that "ticked"? I wouldn't. I wouldn't even call it "incredulous". Besides, you're missing the main point... Hall's simplistic argument that getting control of Tripoli = Fall of Gaddafi = Libya wins = Winning USA Strategy leaves a lot to be desired. I would have liked to have heard Singh's answer to the video you cut too short but I suspect Singh would argue that tossing out Gaddafi is not necessarily a win if Libya then plunges into chaos with no strong central government...especially if it gets radicalized...and we're still early days for judging Libya a success or failure for US policy.
Hmmm...actually, is it going
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:16pm.
Hmmm...actually, is it going to be like the fall of Mubarak in Egypt? Egypt is turning out to be a complete and utter disaster and now a save haven for every single anti-Israeli terrorist in the book.
I wouldn't be applauding yet to what is happening in Lybia.
It seems like evil dictators in Arab nations are being replaced with even more evil and much more worst regimes.
Is this what the MSM and individuals like Tamaron are applauding? http://blog.heritage.org/2011/08/22/libyan-draft-constitution-sharia-is-...
Leave it to Liberals who claim to be pro-women and to love freedom to applaud the fall of one evil regime and being replaced by a much more evil one who will use Sharia Law as its main source of legislation.
Ridiculous!
How many children
Submitted by Samshile on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:27pm.
did President Downgrade murder? 1,000? 5,000?
I just read a story on Drudge that says sharia law is the basis
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:44pm.
...for the proposed new Libyan constitution.
Nice going, Barack Hussein Obama.
-Or whatever your name is.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yeah, no kidding
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:50pm.
One more example of this dictator in chief helping the muslim terrorists instead of those who want real freedom like those in Iran. In Syria, it's the same kind of people trying to oust Assad, and we already know the dictator in chief, a muslim self-admitted at this point, is behind those terrorists who are in the rebellion and in the Egyptian upheaval.
WAKE UP, CONGRESS! THIS BOGUS POTUS IS COOPERATING WITH TERRORISTS!
Stupid bastards.
-Jon
jon, this has happened too many times now to be "accidents"
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:07pm.
...or "coincidences" (which I don't believe in, anyway), or "unintended consequences."
There is something very wrong with this particular president, and I think it's time this congress rooted out exactly what it is.
Should Obama fail to come clean and tell them who he actually is, where he is really from, and who is influencing him, then the Articles of Impeachment should be introduced immediately.
I mean, just exactly how much more of our Constitution does this mysterious man have to sh*t all over before this congress acts?
If they don't, then they are derelict in their responsibilities.
-Not that they haven't been since Jan. 20, 2009.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
How many more ME countries
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 8:28pm.
How many more ME countries are going to be taken over by terrorists?
Is that not the definition of "treason,"
Submitted by falcon on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 6:38pm.
...giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy?
And my wife read a report yesterday saying a NATO troop carrier landed on the coast of Libya - and disgorged Al-Qaeda fighters! So, are we now on the same side as the people who killed 3,000 of our citizens at 1 and 2 World Trade Center, and killed (and continue to kill) thousands of our troops?
Are we not only being surrounded by nincompoops (with apologies to Gene Hackman) but also by our enemies? Is our very own President of the United States boxing us in with no hope of escape?
I almost hope Ghadafi's sons have a nuke planted in Tripoli. It would serve this administration right. (And it'd take out several thousand civilians, but that's what happens when you start an illegal war - you get some blood on your hands.)
“I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership, that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose.” – Ronald Reagan, July 17, 1980.
Disgusting
Submitted by cobokat on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:48pm.
It is so disgusting to watch any of these "hosts" stump for this WH! We have no idea who will actually be running Libya so they shouldn't be jumping for joy just yet. Why doesn't MSNBC just come clean and tell us that they are a wing of this WH.
Tamron acting as childishly as ever.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:48pm.
She never had both oars in the water, but her behavior is worse than a spoiled four year old.
Lapdogs
Submitted by Scott Trent on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:59pm.
That`s our Lapdog to the Socialists media at work. msnbc-DNC... Was she wearing a cheerleader uniform?
Another useful idiot heard from...............
Submitted by Herbster on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:05pm.
Let's wait and see what Tampon Hall has to say when we find out the following:
1. Who are the "Rebels?" I assure you they are not doctors, lawyers, professors, etc.
2. Whoi is behind them? Who is pulling the strings, supplying arms and money?
3. Can the muslim brotherhood be far behind? Can Tampon spell S-H-A-R-I-A L-A-W?
4. Remember the left wing rejoicing when castro overthrew Batists? Tampon would have been at the head of the parade cheering.
5. Be very careful what you wish for - it mught come true.
6. Better the enemy you know.
7. We are living in dangerous times - and we are leaderless.
8. MSNBC: Tampon Hall, Sharpton, Maddow, Schultz, O"Donnell, Matthews......I rest my case.
Too late!!! Dumbama has
Submitted by Callie369 on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 2:50am.
Too late!!! Dumbama has already stuck his stinky foot in his mouth on the subject of Libya!!!!
We are heading to ....
Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:43pm.
.... the Planet of the Apes w/o a nuclear holocaust. Just line up behind the obama administration and the msm. What a disaster!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063442
And Morgan Freeman too...
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 7:15pm.
Seems like 'getting XXXXed off' is a recurring theme for the liberal media and liberal hollywood. And they should be angry. Their failed president and his failed policies have collapsed like the house of cards we all knew they were. We predicted their failure before they implemented policy #1. And their policies will continue to fail, because they are based in, grounded on, and conceived in lies. Which means the libutards will continue to get madder and madder as their failures continue to pile higher and higher.
Small wonder that Morgan Freeman, one of Obama's blind cheerleaders, is now screaming and frothing that he wants Obama to 'get XXXXed off' and that he'll 'vote for him 1,000 times' if he can get away with it.
Well - Freeman is stupid. When he was younger, he was smarter, and admitted it. In an episode of the Electric Company, the 'Spider Man Up Against The Wall' sketch, Freeman yelled and screamed 'I can be pretty STUPID when I wanna be!'
Yes you can, Mr. Freeman. Yes, you can.
Indeed
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 7:26pm.
Hell, the characters he plays are smarter than he is. I have more respect for his characters than I do for him.
-Jon
Shaddup
Submitted by rammingspeed on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 7:42pm.
Just another whiny pinko punk...
I am still trying to understand WHAT Obama is supposed to
Submitted by djwolf12 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:21pm.
take credit for. Who is going to run the Country of Libya? Is this country going to be nothing but pure Anarchy for the next 10 years? With all of the people Obama likes to encircle around himself with, Anarchy is exactly what he wants.