Buchanan: Newt Is 'Out On Left Wing Of Republican Party'
Newt Gingrich came in for some serious criticism on today's Morning Joe.
Reacting to footage of Newt on Meet the Press alluding to Paul Ryan's health care proposal as "radical," Joe Scarborough accused Gingrich of being in "the mushy middle." Pat Buchanan came with the unkindest cut of all, saying Gingrich is "out on the left wing of the Republican party."
View video after the jump.
In the MTP clip, Newt was seen saying that while he opposes ObamaCare, he would also be against "a conservative imposing radical change" on the health care system. He later admitted that his proposal amounts to "a variation" of the individual mandate.
Watch Joe and Pat rip Newt.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: Let's first dissect what Newt said. Did he, Mark Halperin, just call Paul Ryan's health care plan "radical"?
MARK HALPERIN: He said the Republican plan went too far, and he's the first major Republican figure to not only not embrace Ryan but to repudiate Ryan.
PAT BUCHANAN: He not only distanced himself from Ryan's plan, which I understand, he repudiated it almost entirely.
SCARBOROUGH: He called it "radical."
BUCHANAN: He called it radical. He is out on, basically, he is out on the left wing of the Republican party on the most crucial economic issue besides the economy itself.
SCARBOROUGH: I've got to say, this confirms my biggest concern about Newt Gingrich over the past 15 years. That rhetorically he's far, far right. But when push comes to shove, he's in the mushy middle.
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Just wait for Rush and Levin.
Submitted by Texndoc on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:23am.
Newt needs to be "nipped in the bud" today. O-U-T. OUT.
One didn't have to wait long for the : "Paul Ryan, even Newt Gingrich thinks you are EXTREME!"
Rush needs to squash him and Levin needs to bury the corpse.
And Hannity can hang his head in shame for his "Oh, OK" to Newt's lame excuses for his pathetic excuses for adultery to his sitting on the couch fretting about Global Warming with Nancy Pelosi to sucking up to Al Sharpton. No wonder Hannity is Ginrich's "go to" interview.
Yep,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:09am.
Not only that, but Newt is for mandating health insurance? I think he has his parties confused.
Newt is going to be on the Neal Boortz show at 11:00 am ET
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:03am.
It is going to be interesting to see how he tries to extricate himself from the pool of manure he waded into over the weekend.
I just hope Neal will throw some hardball questions at him for once, as he tends not to when interviewing friends.
If you're interested, you can hear it live at this link.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Texdoc~
Submitted by GG_NB on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 3:53pm.
I agree -- Newt is done practically before he began. Part of this dust-up seems to be "lack of self-discipline" that many have spoken about in regard to Newt...and his healthcare stance is a deal-breaker for most conservatives. Newt needs to get out and not cause anymore confusion/fodder for the MSM to jump on to disempower the rest of the candidates.
This may not be news to anyone on here, but I just heard (on FOX) that Trump is OUT, which is good. I didn't mind how he got in the fray just enough to speak his peace (and stir up some trouble) on some Obama matters, but I am glad he knows when to stop.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Newt gives me the creeps. I
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 3:47pm.
Newt gives me the creeps. I watched him on Greta a long time ago - she seemed in awe of him.
Ronald Reagan
This confirms it, I'll never vote for Newt
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:28am.
Why do I have a responsibility to pay for health care of someone else? And where does the government get off telling me I HAVE to buy health care or post a bond just because I'm alive?
Bye Newt.
I'll pick from column 2 please.
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:55am.
Well if the two names on the ballot in Nov 2012 are Obama vs Gingrich I am sure as he double hockey sticks not voting for Obama. If it were Obama vs The Unknown Comic I still wouldn't vote for Obama.
A tip o' the hat...
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:15pm.
...to Murray Langston!
UNKNOWN COMIC: Chuckie baby! Hey, Chuckie, Chuckie, Chuckie!
CHUCK BARRIS: Yes? What do you want?
UC: How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
CB: I don't know.
UC: I'll tell you tomorrow.
Ditto, Rad
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:20am.
But we probably won't have to make that choice.
Newt Knocks Republican Medicare Plan
Add to that his support for the individual mandate, and he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
However, I'm with those who say IF.....and that's an impossibly big IF.....he ended up being the R nominee, I would hold my nose and vote for him.
But then again, I'd vote for Howdy Doody over Obama.....
I'm beginning to wonder...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:35am.
if the lefties were right (pardon the pun)
Who does a conservative have left (sorry... I meant "remaining") to vote for? The field is pretty small as it is, and you guys are now starting to cut through the bone.
I do want a strong conservative to run for the office, but I'm constantly getting disallusioned. (Romney, Huckaby, now Gingrich. Just who's left (uh--- "remaining")?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
beats me
Submitted by kinijane on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:16am.
Maybe someone will pop up, but in the meantime listen to Herman Cain, hes sounds pretty darn good.
The Hermanator just won a straw poll in Ft. Lauderdale
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:00am.
He is also widely viewed as having won the 1st repub debate, too.
I think he is going to sneak up on a lot of unsuspecting people.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Speaking of Ft. Lauderdale, Dave
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:51pm.
From the Sun Sentinel:
The liberal group MoveOn.org plans to protest at Congressman Allen West's town hall meeting in Pompano Beach on Tuesday.
MoveOn's statement: Area MoveOn members will rally inside and outside a town hall meeting Representative West is holding on May17 to protest the Representative's recent vote to cut Medicare funding. The protestors will show up with signs telling Congress to keep their "Hands Off Our Medicare." Last month, Representative West voted, with nearly every other Republican in the House of Representatives, for a budget that would end Medicare as we know it. At the event, MoveOn members will try to hand Representative West a note demanding to know how West can ask seniors to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy through massive cuts in Medicare.
Yes, we're going to go.
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Newt's....
Submitted by Forbus on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:40am.
presidential campaign is like immigration reform in the House.
Dead On Arrival.
No different than one of those phony "Tea Party" candidates
Submitted by Texndoc on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:48am.
You know the ones - the lifetime Democrats who want to trick and run as "Tea Party" candidates when the Tea Party has never heard of them, only to weaken the Conservative vote. That's Newt.
What happened to the guy from
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 8:53am.
What happened to the guy from the '80s and '90s whom I admired?
I'd still vote for Gingrich over Obama if he were the GOP nominee because any Republican would still be preferable to Obama, but he won't have my vote in the primary.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Health care...
Submitted by adamsmith on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:02am.
Seems every politician has something to say about one sixth of the US economy. As I wrote over on HotAir.com this morning, Singapore has supposedly the best healthcare system in the world. They have a CASH SYSTEM with NO HEALTH INSURANCE....period...
Ever wonder why health care costs go up 30% a year when nothing else is? That's called government involvement. Why is health insurance tied to employment in any way? An individual should purchase insurance themselves. This is just one huge Ponzi scheme that's not even insurance, it's a health payment plan which enriches insurance companies(parasites), politicians(parasites) and attorneys(parasites) who pull off huge class action suits which they only enrich themselves with(think John Edwards)....
Go to a cash system where the Free Market decides price through supply and demand. Kill Big Government!!!!!!!!
adamsmith---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:39pm.
That, in essence, is what Unsane has said all along about health care.
The prophet is without honor in his own land.
Too bad, as many NB posters are much, much sharper than the stupid asses that are elected.
MD
Well Buchanan is definitely
Submitted by wiwf on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:14am.
Well Buchanan is definitely on the extreme right. So really anyone can be interpreted as left of him.
Newt's comments are no where near center or right-of-center
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:22am.
To try to soften the leftness of Newt's left-wing comments by saying "anyone can be interpreted as left of [Buchanan]" is ridiculous.
Supporting AGW, slamming Ryan's budget (which still is not right-wing), and now supporting the un-Constitutional, freedom-smashing mandate provision of the budget-busting, job-killing Obamacare abomination is to the left of almost all of America.
wiwf
Submitted by bassndude on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:30am.
Newt is on the extreme right of the extreme left. In other words, he could write for HufPo or KOS either one, he would just be a little to the right of the rest of that crowd.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
It has nothing to do with relation to Buchanan's position.
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:25am.
Pat didn't say Newt's to HIS left, he said he's on the left wing of the Republican party.
IOW, he's one of those whom the Democrats will call a "moderate" (Read: willing to vote with Democrats).
I think aliens got to Newt.
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:16am.
Newt is not the left wing of the GOP. He is the left wing of American politics.
If he's making "shrewd political calculations" to expand his base, he is spending too much time listening to the DC chatter about moving to the center. The left hardly ever moves to the center. And when they do, it's always temporary. When the right moves to the center, the center moves to the left as well.
The center no longer reflects mainstream America.
It looks like....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:17pm.
...the aliens may have probed a little too deep!
That isn't all Newt said...
Submitted by Wolfrem on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:16am.
I spotted this little nugget over at Newsmax this morning:
Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance
I thought maybe he had drank too much or was off some meds when he agreed with Pelosi on global warming. But now he has clearly hung himself for the conservative vote. He has destroyed his campaign chances from the very start.
May as well change your party affiliation now, Newt. Clearly you have gladly crossed the aisle with both feet.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." - Padme, Star Wars 3
Regarding repeating history...
Submitted by pockets64 on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:26am.
If my-name-is-Newt is the GOP candidate, look for an Obama-McCain redux in 2012. Obama will have Newt for lunch.
Adios, Newt
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:35am.
And please, don't let the door hit you in the *** on your way out.
Now go back to your history books, and be quiet.
As for Joe S. "squishy middle"????? Pot.....Kettle.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Frankly, B, I don't care if
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:16am.
Frankly, B, I don't care if the door DOES hit him in the A$$....
I thought he might have some good ideas on fiscal responsibility.
What a joke.
mb,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:24am.
Frankly, B, I don't care if the door DOES hit him in the A$$....
Neither do I, and I hope it knocks him all the way into the arms of the democrat party, too.
Now if we can get rid of Mitt following his hideous health care speech, we will have eliminated two RINOs in the space of one week. :-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Upon reflection
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:28am.
I must agree.
Brit Hume just eviscerated him for "bomb throwing". If he thinks anyone in the Republican party will support him now, he's nuts.
Let's start a pool, how long until he withdraws?
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"Let's start a pool, how long until he withdraws?"
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:52am.
Today wouldn't hurt my feelings.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Premature withdrawal?
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:21pm.
In Newt's case there's no such thing. We'll pay the penalty if he runs.
Let's start a pool....
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 2:49pm.
Given his ego he won't withdraw until he fails to get the nomination.
But by showing his colors so early on at least he didn't waste everybody's time mucking about ginning up support for him. Now we can concentrate on finding someone truly viable.
Buh-bye Newt.
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 9:44am.
Buh-bye Newt.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Newt is a joke, has been for
Submitted by Snappy on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:23am.
Newt is a joke, has been for years. Classic politician finger in the wind, personal issues aside, caveing to Clinton, couch snuggle with Pelosi, now all in for the individual mandate? He might have a chance in the Democratic primaries, but the Republican credibility he has been losing for years has now completely left the building.
Snappy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:51pm.
Well said.
Newt is merely doing the "Beltway Shuffle"; a bastardization of the two step, which he thinks will set him up to garner some votes from the independent periphery.
The Pelosi couch snuggle, combined with the individual mandate statement(s), means the professorial pundit has now managed to shoot himself in both feet.
He may as well stick that perennial political "finger in the wind" up his own butt.
MD
GINGRICH
Submitted by BRADEN on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 10:48am.
Always thought Newt was a bright guy, appears the bright guys bulb just got very dim. This weekend he shot himself in the foot.
He a left wing thief like all
Submitted by Semus on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:56am.
I just read that a month ago he was pleased Ryan stepped up and produced this plan. It's a different thing to say people should help each other, than saying that a third group should decide when, where, and how much people have to give, this is hard left theft and it's evil.
The two possibilities are Newt feels that above all else he should govern over ... something, and he'd sell his sole to get elected this makes him a political opportunist or he's more to the left than I suspected, either way he's not going to get a brass farthing from me.
Another possibility is he knows his is a lost cause so he'll say what he really feels which really ties in with the latter possibility mentioned above.
How can he launch his run and
Submitted by USA4freedom on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:09am.
How can he launch his run and within a week be sunk.. WTF??
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, the Republican party.
What were you
Submitted by USA4freedom on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:10am.
What were you thinking???????????????????????
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, the Republican party.
oxymoron
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:34am.
Newt is what you call a Big Government Conservative.
Newt is a long time government insider. He's smart and when you are an insider long enough you begin to think that you can see the best solutions for peoples lives and want to legislate those solutions into action. Never mind that people don't want your advice and would prefer the freedom to succeed or fail on their own.
Newt says....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 11:46am.
"we all have a responsibility to help pay for health care".
Cowboy sez: Who does WHAT?
Newt: I don't think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable than left-wing social engineering.
Cowboy: What the heck is 'right-wing social engineering'? Minimum government intrusion into our lives and businesses? Free to live our lives by making our own decisions without Big Brother's "help"? Is there even such a thing as 'right-wing social engineering'? I guess the courts might say that "the absence of a plan is a plan".
And to Newt, that's just as bad as left-wing social engineering - Statism. Equal misery for all. Eco-fascism. Government intervention into every minute aspect of our lives.
As so many others have already said, bye-bye, Newt!
Let us count the ways...
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:20pm.
Newt supports health care insurance mandates. That's one.
He says that Ryan's budget proposal is "radical" and the medicare part is "right wing social engineering". Oops, Newt! That's two!
And of course there's the smoochy, snuggle-time with the wicked witch of the west on the global warming love seat we all remember. Gee Newt, that's three already. We call that an OUT!
Hit the showers lefty! And use the heavy duty scrub brush! Maybe you'll get lucky and get some of that liberal off ya, not that I'm gonna hold my breath or anything.
Talk about losing right out of the gate, sheesh!
"Rhetorically, he's on the right "
Submitted by lrgon on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:39pm.
"when push comes to shove he's (Newt) is in the mushy middle."
Actions while in congress:
Education — Gingrich helped garner support for President Jimmy Carter’s Department of Education in 1979. As Speaker In 1996 Gingrich’s Republican Congress increased education funding by $3.5 billion in 1996, the largest single increase in history.
Big spending
federal spending in all the areas addressed by the 1994 Contract with America rose.
He made a formal appeal to the House of Representatives in 1995 to “increase the power of President Clinton” by repealing the War Powers Act.
Gingrich’s support of abortion and anti-family measures, federal welfare, a presidential line item veto, the National Endowment for the Arts, confiscation of private property, amnesty for illegal immigrants, higher taxes, and a myriad of other unconstitutional legislation.
Futurist
In 1994, Gingrich described himself as “a conservative futurist.” He said that those who were trying to define him should look no further than The Third Wave, a 1980 book written by Alvin Toffler that he endorsed.
The book describes our society as entering a post-industrial phase in which abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, and divorce are perfectly normal, even virtuous.
The Third Wave chastising the Founding Fathers: “The system of government you fashioned, including the very principles on which you based it, is increasingly obsolete, and hence increasingly, if inadvertently, oppressive and dangerous to our welfare. It must be radically changed and a new system of government invented — a democracy for the 21st century.” He went on to describe our constitutional system as one that “served us so well for so long, and that now must, in its turn, die and be replaced.”
Innocent question here...
Submitted by GW on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 1:08pm.
what's wrong with the line item veto?
I always thought of it as a good way to get rid of pork that was riding a bill. What is the 'approved' conservative opinion of a line item veto?
Line Item Veto. It is
Submitted by bassndude on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 2:37pm.
Line Item Veto. It is unconstitutional. Congress passes laws and controls the spending. The President has the option to veto any laws or bills that come to his desk. But he is not granted the constitutional authority to cancel out any parts of any bill to suit his purpose. If that was true that would cancel out the authority of Congress.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Thanks
Submitted by GW on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 3:18pm.
I learned something today. So, not being familiar enough with how the US Constitution sets up states' governments (but I at least know there's a section in there about states), how do states get the line item veto?
→ GW
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 3:22pm.
Believe it or not, it was Rudy Giuliani who successfully argued, at SCOTUS, the unconstitutionality of Line Item Veto when Congress Granted it to Bill Clinton.
Buchanan has more of a chance than Newt at this point.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:42pm.
But maybe Pelosi will ride to his rescue - she still owes him one.
She won't ride to his rescue...
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 12:59pm.
Anytime soon. I hear her broom is in the shop. Gonna take a while being it's a union shop and all that. The shop boss is having a hard time getting the Bristle Workers Local 666 to understand English. Not to mention they are on break.
.
Trump is out.
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 3:03pm.
He probably want's to be Newt's running mate. Ha!
I don't know why anyone is surprised
Submitted by doug1950 on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:44pm.
that Newt is stating these positions. If anyone paid attention over the years he has always put his personal / political ambitions before character, integrity and principles. Newt is an old fashioned country club repub, always has been, always will be. It is about "winning" more than about doing the right thing. Winning equates to power and for the political class that is all that is important; getting into power and staying in power. These career politicians all belong to and go to the same clubs, organizations, their kids go to the same private schools, end up marrying each other, meanwhile they think the American public is a bunch of dunces and for the most part they are. There are a hellava lot more people walking among us who can't pick out the VP in a photo line up than those of us who stay informed on what the hell is going on in Washington. Many will go vote, pull the lever for whomever has the D behind their name, along with many of their dead relatives.
For some on supposed to be brilliant, Newt stepped in it!
Submitted by cbeyer on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:56pm.
Newt's bashing of Paul Ryan's brilliant fiscal plan will be his undoing. He tried to explain this on Hannity a few minutes ago but got himself in even deeper. We need to get rid of this guy as a candidate. He forgot that Paul Ryan is on our team. There is so much to go after Obama about why undermine a leading conservative and thinker in your own party? All Newt did was give liberal media shills for Obama the opportunity to point fingers at the Republican party and say how they are not unified. LIBERAL MEDIA WILL USE NEWT'S RIGHT WING COMMENTS (to describe the Ryan plan) to their and the DNC's advantage. THANKS NEWT! GREAT MOVE.
We need a stronger field of candidates!
Newt:
Submitted by GG_NB on Mon, 05/16/2011 - 5:57pm.
Please, get out of the race...yesterday.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Cringeworthy~
Submitted by GG_NB on Wed, 05/18/2011 - 7:09pm.
I will probably get slammed by someone for this, but Newt is having so many continued problems that I am actually starting to feel sorry for him! I know, I know, he's responsible for his own mouth. But this is just getting worse and worse. First the rebuking by key conservatives...then the public scolding by the constituent...then the jewelry flap...then the glitter incident...ugh. I can't watch anymore. It's too painful!
He really should get out of the race -- for his own sake as well as the rest of the candidates. I know he started the ball rolling all on his own, but I do not enjoy seeing him being humiliated, and he just doesn't seem to have a clue on how to handle himself. It's just a terrible train wreck that never seems to end. I've gone from being irritated by his careless comments to really feeling sorry for the guy. Ugh.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan