Uygur: Unborn Babies Would Oppose Limiting Right To Abort Them
Wouldn't blame you for doubting this, so fantastical is the proposition. But Cenk Uygur has claimed that given the chance, unborn babies would oppose restrictions on their mothers' right to abort them.
Cenk made his grotesque suggestion in the course of discussing an Ohio bill that would forbid abortions as soon as a baby's heartbeat can be detected. Proponents plan to let a nine-week old unborn baby symbolically testify.
View video after the jump.
CENK UYGUR: By all accounts, the fetus will be the youngest ever to testify. That's because he or she is not really testifying, because he or she is not really a person yet. In fact, at that point, we don't even know whether he or she is a he or she. You know what else hasn't formed at that point? Their mouth. Making it a little hard to testify. But goofball Republicans have wheeled in a woman, done an ultrasound, and listened to the heartbeat of the fetus in the womb.
If the bill is enacted, it would be the first, I'm sorry, it would be the most restrictive abortion law in the country. Now, we reached out to the fetus to see if he or she wanted to come on the show, but it did not say anything, because it does not have a mouth. But if it could talk, I'm pretty sure it would say, could you please get out of my mother's uterus.
So not only does renowned theologian-cum-scientist Cenk know that a nine-week old is "not really a person," he also is "pretty sure" that if it could speak, the baby would sound like . . . Eleanor Smeal. Perhaps tomorrow night Uygur will explain why an unborn baby would not want to save itself.
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Wow...
Submitted by HeavyChevy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:08pm.
I mean wow...
I wonder if Comcast really know what they got themselves into.
G.E. still calling the shoots
Submitted by swim-r-sink on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:59am.
Comcast owns 51% and G.E still owns.49% and I think the main reason this deal was made is because G.E.Jeff Immelt is now Obama's head council on jobs and competitiveness. So nothing has changed at MSNBC they are still Obama channel pushing his agenda so G.E. can Billions on Obama's Fascist style Big Government subsidised and mandated crony capitalism! So G.E. has no agenda there right? Its Comcast now?
ten out of ten "fetuses" are
Submitted by TruthMonger on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:22am.
ten out of ten "fetuses" are pro-life - statistical fact
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Does anybody other than . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:11pm.
. . . Newsbusters watch this fool? This guy sounds like Nancy Pelosi.
even liberals will cringe at
Submitted by TruthMonger on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:30am.
even liberals will cringe at this dope's argument as they probably realize its inadvertently making the case for pro life
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Uyger
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:13pm.
If only his dad had unloaded his share in the Cenk.
Have you noticed
Submitted by HeavyChevy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:19pm.
that these people on MSNBC always seem to have names that screams "pick on me I'm wide open". Growing up must have been delightful.
Hi HC
Submitted by well99 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:21pm.
I think Cenk was hatched.He is one bird brained mother bear.They actually pay this guy to talk.Amazing.
Yep
Submitted by HeavyChevy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 11:01pm.
If I was a follower of this station I would be ashamed to mention out in public that I watch MSNBC.
When you have to invent your witnesses ...
Submitted by KC Mulville on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:13pm.
When you have to invent your witnesses, it's time to call in specialists.
KC,
Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:17pm.
Same method made John Edwards a multi-millionaire. Never underestimate the positive effects of being able to talk to the unborn.
In fairness, Republicans are
Submitted by Mark Finkelstein on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:17pm.
In fairness, Republicans are doing the same thing here. But can anyone doubt that given the chance, an unborn baby would want someone to step in to save it?
→ No doubt
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:21pm.
We've seen that a human will sever his own arm to save his own life.
Another plea might be "Mr. Abortionist, please get out of my mother's uterus?"
Yes...
Submitted by kronological on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 9:48am.
or better yet, "Hey abortionist. Please get that cold, instrument of death...the one that is about to rip my fragile body to pieces just so you can have your blood money profit, OUT of my mother's uterus".
Yup
Submitted by GW on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:19pm.
In the first chapter of Abby Johnson's book Unplanned, she described how the baby struggled to get away from the abortionist's probe before it (the baby) was vacuumed out.
I can't wait for the day you
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:17pm.
I can't wait for the day you will only be able to see liberals in cages at the zoo.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
So this wack-job thinks kids
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:19pm.
So this wack-job thinks kids would be suicidal if they knew it was their "right" to self-terminate?
Why doesn't he lead the way by example?
When
Submitted by Joe W. on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:20pm.
Why doesn't someone ask Cenk WHEN the fetus actually does become a "person". According to his logic, one would have to be able to speak a language and "testify" that it wished to live. Would that be 4 or 5 years of age then, Cenk?? Imbecile.
Joe,
Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:26pm.
According some of President Obama's buddies a child doesn't become a person until they are a functional part of society. Wish I was kidding.
Would that be before or after
Submitted by Diesel on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:10am.
Would that be before or after they throw the baby into the janitors closet to die?
He displays a staggering ignorance
Submitted by GrannyGrump42 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:02pm.
this clown says that a baby at nine weeks has "no mouth" with which it could protest its impending doom.
First of all, the Ohio law could protect babies younger than nine weeks, depending on how you define "detecting" the heart beat.
http://www.visembryo.com/baby/10.html
Carnegie Stage 10, 21-23 days post-ovulation, "The cells which become the eyes appear as thickened circles just off of the neural folds. The cells of the ears are also present." "The two endocardial tubes formed in Stage 9 fuse in Stage 10 to form one single tube derived from the roof of the nueral tube, which becomes S-shaped and makes the primitive heart asymmetric. As the S-shape forms, cardiac muscle contraction begins."
This is one week after the first missed period, three weeks into the pregnancy.
It's not long after this point that the baby has a mouth:
http://www.visembryo.com/baby/13.html
Carnegie Stage 13: 27-29 days post-ovulation, "The brain differentiates into the three main parts: the forebrain, midbrain and hindbrain." "Primitive mouth with a tongue is recognizable."
Two weeks after the first missed period, four weeks into the pregnancy.
As to when you could detect the baby's sex:
http://www.visembryo.com/baby/20.html
Carnegie Stage 20: c. 8 weeks post-ovulation. "Brain is connected to tiny muscles and nerves and enables the embryo to make spontaneous movements." "Testes or ovaries are distinguishable."
This is still younger than the 9 week fetus testifying that it's alive.
If, by "detecting" the heart beat, you mean seeing it on ultrasound:
http://www.justmommies.com/articles/heartbeat-on-ultrasound.shtml
That's six weeks into pregnancy, 4 weeks after conception.
Well done, GrannyG!
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:48pm.
Well done, GrannyG!
Outstanding!
Submitted by Soldat44 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 5:48pm.
Outstanding!
Submitted by StanO360 on Fri, 03/04/2011 - 6:10pm.
These are the people representing the liberal agenda
Submitted by octavioj on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:25pm.
It is interesting that people listen to this and do not cringe. He is basically saying the fetuses are suicidal...
in the name of the liberal
Submitted by TruthMonger on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:28am.
in the name of the liberal agenda...
the upside may be that these self-aborting fetuses would be future liberals polluting our society
even that i can't support
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
or HAVE to eat Ramen Noodles
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:08pm.
Some DEM just recently made the case for abortion saying it is better than having to force your kids to eat Ramen noodles to stay alive. Oh, the horrors of life! Can you believe that? Someone have her quote?
EDIT: Here it is from the House floor. Video at bottom. http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/17/democrat-rep-gwen-moore-abortion-is...
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
VILE
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:30pm.
Just plain VILE.
I have a question
Submitted by NC Boy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:32pm.
Is forced commitment still a possibility? This guy needs help.
Here you go Cenck*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:34pm.
They have a mouth, they have a heart beat. They are alive.
They're not only alive,
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 8:42am.
They're not only alive, cajun, apparently they can reason. They would say "Sure, Mom, you have the right to kill me if it will make your life better, because that's all that matters."
This is beyond comprehension.
As I've said before, Uygur is doing his best to fill Keith Olbermann's cesspool.
Which is worse
Submitted by Tjexcite on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:35pm.
Which is worse. Is this guy or Keith. At least you knew what cesspool Keith was digging in and what one can expect. Yet everyday this guy dig deeper into the cesspool pool to find some other ugly looking thing to see what it is and if he can play with it.
There will come a day that Comcast will be looking for the fine print on Keith's old contract to give him the money and ditch this guy to the curb. Will that day be before or after the weather channel beats them at the time slot, time will tell.
Just how long can someone watch this and still leave the house and be able to communicate in pleasant, civil society. That does not go just for this guy it goes for the whole channel.
Poster Child
Submitted by IrateNate on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:38pm.
Cenk Uygur - strongest argument for abortion to date.
Don't mind this guy he is
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:47pm.
Don't mind this guy he is trying to out do Olberloon. Just like a typical liberal douchebag, he cant 'poll' unborn babies so he makes sh*t up! Now if a future poll would have been taken before his birth, I am pretty sure the result would have been different.
WTF is A CENK?
Submitted by donabernathy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:42pm.
"we don't even know whether he or she is a he or she"
so I guess this don't qualify as human life... Huh Cenk....
roflmao
he or she?
Submitted by jayhuf on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:26am.
He could say the same thing about Maddow. Does that me he/she is not a person?
Dude!
Submitted by GW on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:57am.
NSFW, please give a warning first.
We can determine if the baby
Submitted by GrannyGrump42 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:04pm.
We can determine if the baby is a boy or a girl by nine weeks. Not by ultrasound, typically, but the genitals are visible.
I'm not sure what the
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:46pm.
I'm not sure what the mother's knowledge of being pregnant has to do with the abortion argument. There's some stupid show about stupid women who didn't know they were pregnant until the baby's born. Should those babies be allowed to be killed too? I guess I shouldn't ask Cenk that question...
Guess ya can
Submitted by donabernathy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:46pm.
just bust a cap n his head... huh cenk... he can't speak....right Cenk
roflmao
If the world becomes the
Submitted by ant on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:49pm.
If the world becomes the third-world, Orwellian, hell-hole that people like Skank would make it, he may have a point. However, if we are playing the hypothetical game, I'd guess if Obama was honest he would want to be impeached. He only wanted the job for the same reasons people want to be rockstars. I say let's help him out.
Uygur plays God.
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:59pm.
Sit down and shut up! You narcissistic Hitler wannabe. You know which babies want to die and which want to live? What a disgusting 'human being'.
And by the way, Hilter decided who was and was not a human being. Just like liberal democrat scum.
too bad mom didnt abort you!
Submitted by fromsuncity on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:22pm.
too bad mom didnt abort you!
Liberals' desires are truly monsterous
Submitted by Slyrr on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:22pm.
It's tragically fun, watching these liberals be honest about what they want to do, and twist themselves in to pretzels in their attempts to rationalize their monsterous desires.
In this case - liberals want to butcher unborn babies in the womb. Then harvest their cellular tissue (corpses), make some kind of puree out of the unborn and bathe in the juice, believing it to be some kind of miracle elixer that will give them eternal youth, cure all disease and make them immortal.
Never mind how ghoulish and vampirish it sounds when you say it flat out - that's what liberals want and what they believe. And to justify this utterly evil desire, they say such outrageous things as, 'our infant victims would WANT to sacrifice themselves to our bloodlust if they knew how bad we want to bathe in their juices!'
Everyone whos for
Submitted by fromsuncity on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:23pm.
Everyone whos for abortion has been born!
All unborn babies would have
Submitted by fromsuncity on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:23pm.
All unborn babies would have supported having you aborted. i use your same logic.
Cenk Uygur: Klingon word for
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:32pm.
Cenk Uygur: Klingon word for retard.
No, it's some nasty incurable ...
Submitted by OldJoe on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 6:52am.
pox like disease. Oozing, nasty, pus, infection.
Klingon 1 says to Klingon 2:
Submitted by GW on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:06pm.
"Ba'ah chi nokton ort Cenk Uygur."
Klingon 2: "klii tok a'cha huj mak."
Translation:
Klingon 1: "I went on shore leave and got a bad case of Cenk Uygur."
Klingon 2: "That really sucks. No glorious death for you!"
Typical leftist dogma
Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:54pm.
Don't we all know by now that every progressive leftist liberal is so smart, so uber-educated that they always know what other people would say and think.
Wait, he said they aren't people yet. Oooops on his part. Like always, leftists talk themselves into the corner of self-contradiction.
Abortion need not be legal or illegal because whether legal or illegal people still choose it. This actuality is demonstrated daily by everything from drunk driving to jihadi murder. That isn't a solution beyond a feel good measure that generates money for legislators to spend. It's an illusion of solution.
Abortion need not be chosen. That is the answer, imho. That solution sees resolution whether that ugliness is legal or illegal.
I see this danger. A government powerful enough to say you can or can't have or do something also wields power to force you to do or have or not have or not do something. That makes me think of China and it's enfroced one child policy. China, where they now experience a result of that policy nobody thinks about very often. The extended family is being destroyed. So few have cousins....
I look forward to the day not another abortion happens. I refuse to put on the blinders that making it "illegal" brings that day to fruition. Prohibition itself just doesn't solve anything. It generally causes more problems that it attempts to solve.
Expanding choice, as in the example of adoption, has avoided many abortions. This is a successful model we should replicate, again, imho.
I think I see where you are coming from
Submitted by GW on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:13pm.
if I look at prohibiting abortion as a similar action to prohibiting alcohol. That is, the prohibition of alcohol caused a lot of problems, as did a complete laissez-faire attitude that avoided any regulation of alcohol. From that point of view, your point makes complete sense.
On the other hand, if I were to view abortion as the termination of an innocent human life, as pro-lifers do view it, then prohibiting abortion would be seen as similar to prohibiting murder. True, murders continue to occur despite being illegal, but no one seriously considers legalizing murder, at least while keeping the name "murder". I would think most folks agree that there would be a lot more murders if murder were legalized.
Sorry that I can't provide a link, but I recall a doctor who counseled post-abortive woman state that he asked his patients if they would have had an abortion if it were illegal. All of his patients said they would not have had an abortion if abortion were illegal. This is not a scientific poll. It was just him asking his patients who were seeking help with their regret of their abortions. So, I think that probably a lot of women who had abortions and didn't regret their abortions would have had them anyway even if abortion was illegal. That shouldn't surprise anyone, as there are murderers who murdered even though murder is illegal and don't regret it one bit, though they might regret getting caught.
So what I am saying is that if abortion were to be made illegal, there would be a lot fewer of them.
I don't see abortion becoming illegal as a possibility at this time. I agree with your point that offering real expanded choices is a good strategy. By 'offering real choices', I mean offering adoption services, offering help through crisis pregnancy centers, and offering real knowledge like ultrasounds. But that's just my opinion, too.
Well someone made of his "cloth"
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 11:06pm.
having no trouble strapping explosives to his groin and hopping on a school bus would obviously have no trouble excreting such trash.
Over at MSLSD...
Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 11:10pm.
Chunk Booger displays his mighty intellect. Can you believe this guy actually named his son Prometheus Maximus Uygur?! No ego trip there, eh? I wonder what they're calling the poor kid. Considering Chunk's stance on drug legalization, they probably call him "Meth".
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Problem is
Submitted by dmntd1 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:24am.
Problem is, the only way we'll find out is by not aborting them, ask them, and shove them back in their mom and kill them then.
We dare not tempt them with weakness. For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed.
Cenk
Submitted by dmaley1714 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:32am.
is pretty much saying the baby said I do not want tot live
and I thought nothing could top Charles Pierce's twisted "logic"
Submitted by mom_rox on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:13am.
Charles Pierce, winner of the 2004 DisHonor Award by MRC for Quote of the Year:
“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”
-- Charles Pierce in a January 5, 2003 Boston Globe Magazine article. Kopechne drowned while trapped in Kennedy’s submerged car off Chappaquiddick Island in July 1969, an accident Kennedy did not report for several hours.
mom_rox
Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:27am.
There was another article from a female writer, whose name I can't remember. She wrote something along the lines of; "..for all that Kennedy has accomplished, Mary Jo may have thought her sacrifice was 'worth it'.". Lovely people, the left.
Here you go, rox...
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 8:53am.
It was Melissa Lafsky at HuffPo
And she actually refers to Kopechne as ending up a controversial footnote, and opines
Who knows? Maybe she'd feel it was worth it.
This guy was a certified
Submitted by Thoreau on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:53am.
This guy was a certified moron on youtube. Now, he's a ratings failure and a certified moron.
Mental disorder
Submitted by Ozconservative on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 6:46am.
Micheal Savage says that liberalism is a mental disorder, but I'm starting to think it is much, much more than that. Ask yourself this......why do liberals applaud the taking of innocent life, yet scream and howl in protest when a murderer is executed or Abdul the terrorist is killed. I believe the answer is this: Liberalism is an evil, Satanic philosophy. It is anti-life, oppressive and soul-destroying.
In other words,
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 8:29am.
In other words, liberals always seem to champion the cause of ' evil over good '.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
Uygur!...Why didn't YOU listen to yourself in the womb
Submitted by redright88 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:21am.
And spontansouly abort yourself, and then you could have PROVED you were right. That babies perfer to be aborted.....then having life.
Uh..then again...you'd be dead...and never would have existed.
LIberals really do live in a
Submitted by misterbee241 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:32am.
LIberals really do live in a fantasy world dont they? And I'm sure Cenk would say that Jesus was pro-choice too.
Hey Uygur, if and when you
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:38am.
Hey Uygur, if and when you actually speak to those young Americans, do me a favor, ask them what their feelings are toward the late term aborting of the likes of ' Tiller the Baby Killer '. Fair question, wouldn't you say?
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
I know, lets ask his mom if
Submitted by bassndude on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:51am.
I know, lets ask his mom if she would like to have a late term abortion. I will be glad to conduct the procedure for her. After all, it is her right!
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Meanwhile, somewhere in hell
Submitted by Burnside on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:01pm.
George Tiller smiles.
Cenk Uyger is a flaming loony.
Submitted by troxruss on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:23pm.
The baby would say "Get out of my mother's womb" when the abortionist is trying to kill it? The only one trying to get into it is the one who will perform the murder - is he saying that he doesn't want He or SHE going into it? This comment could be misconstrued as being pro-life.
Knowing that isn't the case, what he's saying is like being in a situation where someone broke into his house with a knife and is trying to kill him with it. The police are at the door trying to get in and stop the murder, but he is yelling at them to go away, upset with them rather than being upset with the one trying to stab him.
This guy, like all who adopt a liberal, left-wing viewpoint, is JUST NOT RIGHT.
"I've noticed that all the
Submitted by tampamom25 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:01pm.
"I've noticed that all the people who are for abortion have already been born." Ronald Reagan
Post natal abortion
Submitted by Fedup1959 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:46pm.
He's the best execuse I've seen in a long time to support POST natal abortion.
What?
Submitted by Patriot II on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:20pm.
Unborn babies would be all for abortion......is the freaking idiot completely insane? Has to be to make a dumb ass statement like that! Why is that vermin on the air?
It's MSMBC, need I say more,
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:23pm.
It's MSMBC, need I say more,
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
WOW
Submitted by ripper58 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:44pm.
just wow, how does an imbecile like this get on my TV? And God as my witness Cenk Uygur is the sound my cat makes hacking up a hair ball!!!
ROFLMAO!!!!! I have a cat
Submitted by Soldat44 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 5:55pm.
ROFLMAO!!!!!
I have a cat and your spot on! LOL!
Sooo...
Submitted by SmarterThanLibs on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 4:54pm.
So according to this idiots illogic, a mute is not entitled to constitutional rights.
Liberals are advocates for equal rights and equal application of the law? Are we done tossing that obvious lie around yet? Liberals are all "wanna be" dictators who persecute those they don't like.
Oh this moron??
Submitted by D2Boston on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 5:36pm.
Chris Barron from GOProud mopped the floor with him a few weeks ago... I can't believe anyone puts this imbecile in front of a camera to begin with.
Culling the herd...
Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 6:00pm.
And I suppose this presumptuous twit would also have us believe that a goodly number of the Jews sent off to the "showers" per uncle Adolf's "cleansing" program would not have objected too terribly much to his creative means of culling the herd of the Jews infesting his planet.
....with the clear and sadly-obvious exception of ol' Georgie Soros, for whom this was just a minor inconvenience on his way to using the resulting piles of corpses as mere stepping stones to accumulating his own personal fortune.
What a warped, gordion-knot, twisted (il)logical path of non-thinking it takes to come to the whacked-out conclusion that this nitwit vomited forth.
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...
What an incomprehensible
Submitted by LizardLips on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 6:15pm.
What an incomprehensible uttering by this dolt. I'm quite sure if a guest said ''m sure a fetus would say don't hurt me" there would have been howls of laughter and derision. This comes from the folks at 'lean forward' the new buzz word for progressive.
The real issue is this......
Submitted by sam12663 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 8:01pm.
If you can hear a heartbeat, there is life, so an abortion would then be murder.
Enough said. End of debate.
"A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope"
Pope John Paul II