Clueless Napolitano Now Concedes System 'Failed Miserably'

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It took a tough question from Matt Lauer, but after having laughably claimed that "the system worked," DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano has now conceded the obvious: that the security system that permitted Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to board NWA 253 with explosives "failed miserably."

On Today and in other interviews this morning, Napolitano attempted to use her own ignorance as a shield.  Each time she was hit with a hard question, her response was to the effect "yeah, we're wondering about that ourselves."  She also continued to point the finger back at George Bush, repeatedly mentioning that the security procedures in place were formulated under the Bush administration.  Whatever happened to "change you can believe in"?

But back to Today, where Lauer laudably asked Napolitano the necessary question: how could she possibly have claimed, as she did yesterday, that the "system worked"?

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MATT LAUER: You made a comment over the weekend and I want to call attention to that because a lot of people are disagreeing with it this morning.  You talked about this incident aboard this Northwest flight and you said "when it came right down to it, the system worked."  A lot of people don't think the system worked at all, that the only thing that prevented outright disaster was luck.  Can you respond to that?

JANET NAPOLITANO: Sure, I think the comment is being taken out of context. What I'm saying is that once the incident occurred, moving forward, we were immediately able to notify the 128 flights in the air of protective measures to take, immediately able to notify law enforcement on the ground, airports both domestically, internationally, all carriers, all of that happening within 60 to 90 minutes, so --

LAUER: So you're only talking about what happened after this man tried to ignite this explosive device on the plane.

NAPOLITANO: Indeed.

LAUER: You would then concede that the system prior to that, the system that's supposed to prevent something like this from happening, failed miserably?

NAPOLITANO: It did.  And that's why we are asking a lot of the same questions I heard you asking before this interview.  How did this individual get on the plane? Why wasn't the explosive material detected?  What do we need to do to change perhaps the rules that have been in place since 2006 for moving somebody from the generic database to more elevated status.  All of that under review right now.

LAUER: So many man-hours, so much money, Madam Secretary, has gone into securing fliers in this country and around the world, and so let's talk about it: how does a guy who's on this general terror list, who then buys a one-way, trans-Atlantic ticket with cash, checks no luggage, a man whose own father has written a letter to authorities both in his own country and U.S. embassy authorities, saying he's worried that his son has become more radicalized and might attempt some kind of a suicide mission. How is this guy not the perfect candidate for a strip search or a full-body scan?

NAPOLITANO: I've asked the same questions.

We've got another question: what is Janet Napolitano, head of a department that she now admits "failed miserably," still doing in office? 

Note: As part of her "it's Bush's fault" defense, on Morning Joe Napolitano mentioned that young Umar had been issued his US visa "in June, 2008," i.e., during the Bush administration.  OK, but that would have been before his father was frantically trying to alert the Obama admin that his son had apparently turned into a terrorist.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters Senior Contributor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.

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This From The...

This from the woman that put out the letter accusing veterans, Conservatives, and gun owners of being the biggest terror threat to America and refusing to apologize for her comments!

Yup, can hunting those

Yup, can hunting those patriots Janet!  You're doing a Brownie of a job!

Give napolitano a break please.......

She is up to her butt in alligators and forgot her main objective was to drain the swamp!! This dimwit muslims dad called and warned them 2 YEARS ago about him.....humm guess it slipped their empty little minds......actually it didn't................they were too busy profiling, American Patriots, Veterans, Christians, Pro lifers.......oops....."another one bites the dust bump bump"!   Get rid of oblahma and the whole nest of vermin he has put in the white house before its too late!  

10 bucks sez Obama will put TSA employees in the SEIU.

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0307/030607cdpm1.htm

 

"Democrats; Breeding voters like farm animals since 1963"

New Acorn videos...?

Haha...can you imagine the new bighollywood videos from Breitbart, Hannah Giles, and...James (forgot his last name)...

"My girlfriend, Hannah, is posing as a Nigerian suicide bomber. I play the role of her "handler" trying to procure a flight on board a European airline flying into the U.S. I will say Hannah has no passport and that she's been having trouble getting on to a flight because she's on an FBI terror watch-list...Will I be able to get her on the flight?"

*gimme the drums..* 

They'll probably stop Hannah

She is, after all, a light-skinned, brown-haired, (beardless) female who speaks un-accented American english.  They can strip-search her without fearing an accusation of profiling.  That's their OBJECTIVE, after all, that nobody should be profiled.

Unionize the  TSA

Unionize the  TSA screeners.

Yeah, that'll work.

HRC was wrong; she should have said "You can't professionalize unless you unionize!!"

And, no doubt, they won't accept a "no strike" clause.....

What surprises me

What surprises me about this video is that Matt Lauer actually asked some tough questions of a Obama administration official.

Even a leftwing hack like Lauer...

was appalled that Ja-No would try and tell us that everything was fine. He obviously has to fly commercial from time to time and now that his own safety is on the line he wants some answers. The woman is a boob.   The question now is how long is Obama going to continue to support her after she made a fool of herself on national television...?      It isn't so much a political thing as it is a fact that other people in other countries probably pay more attention to her statement than the limousine liberals in the American media.    When they see such an incompetent fool in charge of homeland security it emboldens them to take a chance on a terror strike. I guarantee you that alot of people who don't speak english were paying attention to that interview and even they were shaking their heads.  "That's who the Americans put in charge of  security....?   Oh praise Allah"

" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him....-Sen. Jim DeMint

Still tried to blame Bush?

Must be some fuzzy math going on here, his father tried to contact US officials about it 6 months ago.  Obeyme's usurped power in Jan 2009.  That was 11 months ago.

Ugh.  She sure is a useful punching bag though, I wonder if she was kinda thrown under the bus?

-Jon

BDS

It's a lot easier to blame Bush than it is to actually take responsibility for things that happen on your watch.

Terrorists around the world are smiling today knowing that the head of the agency charged with keeping them from killing us is "scratching her head" at how yet another terrorist got aboard a U.S. flagged  aircraft and nearly succeeded in blowing it out of the air.

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Reno (oops, Napolitano) beclowns herself

Terrorists around the world are smiling today knowing that the head of the agency charged with keeping them from killing us is "scratching her head"

And I'm sure they can't believe their good luck that this woman is in charge! 

The head of homeland security is asking herself the same questions we all are....is that supposed to make us feel better?

Every time she opens her mouth, she beclowns herself 

(thanks to Michelle Malkin for the graphic)

I just call her...

Reno Redux or Reno v.2.0

I hope he fails, too. 

 

 

"Heckuva job, Janny"

Just when I think Obama and his clowns can't do any worse, they prove me wrong again.

"Democrats; Breeding voters like farm animals since 1963"

Janet the Clueless has just

Janet the Clueless has just implemented the new safety alert code (or whatever they call that thing these days). Instead of orange, red etc., it now depends on the day of the week:

Monday-The system is failing 

Tuesday-The system is working 

Wednesday-The system is failing

Thursday-The system is working

Friday-The system is failing

Saturday-It's up to Raum

Sunday-Depends on results of "spin the wheel"

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

You can bet this is one crisis they wont let go to waste

More inconvenience for westerners and ease for islamo fascist. Apparently our tactics are not pc enough, but that will soon be corrected

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

You forgot one...

There needs to be at least one day devoted to "it's all Bush's fault."

Who cares, Napolitano, about Bush?

You guys have owned this department for 11 months now.  Where are YOUR changes?  Quit blaming Bush.  Just shows that this whole administration has neither gonads nor enough integrity to stand up for their own mistakes.  Rush is right when he calls him the "little boy President".

"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."


G. W. F. Hegel

A COUPLE OF THINGS...

 I would rather have Steve Wilkos in charge of DHS then Napolitano. Of course, Wilkos was Jerry Springer's security guy on his show. This woman(?) sucks at her job, & nothing will happen to her. Nobody is held to account in the Obama thug-ministration, they get tossed under the bus & then show up at The Center For American Progress.

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

Steve Wilkos?

Shoot, Dr. Phil would do a better job!!

This woman needs to be

This woman needs to be fired immediately.  How much more incompetence can this country take?  I do not see myself flying too much in the near future because of idiots like Napolitano.  Stop blaming President Bush for all your woes.  How many incidents like this did we have after 9/11 when Pres Bush was in office?

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" Tacitus

Scan American

I will also avoid flying Dude until I can board a plane where all luggage has passed the sniff test and every passenger has been body scanned and checked by facial recognition software. Now is the perfect time for an entrepreneur to launch a new airline which serves only those who are willing to submit to this kind of scrutiny. This airline would likely be called "Scan Am," at least by that nickname. 

Skip flying

I used to fly on five to six hundred mile business trips. Post 9/11, I've found that my total travel time is more or less equivalent if I drive. Skip the lines, the parking hassle, crying babies, baggage fees, etc. Got my I-pod, better-than-airline food, and I can pee whenever I need to. Increased security measures will cause many to cut back on flying. 

How about a boycott until profiling is allowed in order to screen young Muslim men traveling one-way without baggage on a ticket that was purchased with cash?

Road Trips

We need to turn the tables and come up with an airline service which requires body and retina scans for all travelers.  Separating the wheat from the chafe, if you know what I mean!

As for me, I'd just as soon drive a few hundred miles. Road trips can be a BLAST!  

As long

As long as they aren't rectal  scans, however the way things are going one shoudn't rule it out.

What happens if you don't keep your hands where they can see them, do you get a no hands in site ticket? Or maybe just a little jail time.

Authority isn't truth, truth is authority

"Les Moore" 

she has been described as.....

“Janet Napolitano is Janet Reno without the grace and beauty.”

Ding Ding Ding....

We have a winner. Best comment of the day so far....

"Charm"

You forgot "charm."

spew alert

Okay, I was sipping coffee at the time .......... ! Not fair as no warning given LOL.

spew alert

Okay, I was sipping coffee at the time .......... ! Not fair as no warning given LOL.

spew alert

Okay, I was sipping coffee at the time .......... ! Not fair as no warning given LOL.

That's one

of those things you shouldn't be drinking when you are reading, it might end up coming out your nose. 

Authority isn't truth, truth is authority

"Les Moore" 

JANET NAPOLITANO: Sure, I

JANET NAPOLITANO: Sure, I think the comment is being taken out of
context...

Out of context? How could anyone take "the system worked" out of context?

...What I'm saying is that once the incident occurred, moving
forward, we were immediately able to notify the 128 flights in the air
of protective measures to take, immediately able to notify law
enforcement on the ground, airports both domestically, internationally,
all carriers, all of that happening within 60 to 90 minutes, so --

Translation: After the armed inmate had escaped, we locked down the cell blocks and welded all the cell doors shut. Then we dialed everybody up and told them about it.

A lot of good that was going to do for the people on that flight. I think the idea here is to keep explosive-laden Islamic goons from getting on U.S. bound flights to begin with, not telling everybody they may me about to have to clean up really a huge mess.

_____________________________________

It's time to do away with the DHS entirely, as this hideous, bloated government organization has repeatedly shown that it is nothing more than a dumping ground for incompetent government boobs. 

I was opposed to it's creation to begin with, and have long felt it to be one of GWB's biggest mistakes as POTUS.

I view the very existence of a DHS to be far more of a threat to our freedoms and liberties than it is any real benefit to the safety and security of the American people, as it more and more appears its only real purpose is to maintain the security (power?) of the government.

Of course, the borderline illiterate TSA daughter-molesting morons could easily be replaced by private employees trained in the same manner as the Israeli's train their security personnel.

At the end of the day, the taxpayers would save billions, and be far safer, too.

When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered. -Dorothy Thompson

-Dave

 

No, no, no, Dave!

Of course, the borderline illiterate TSA daughter-molesting morons
could easily be replaced by private employees trained in the same
manner as the Israeli's train their security personnel.

Someone had that idea, but I think it was Her Royal Clintoness who said "You can't professionalize unless you federalize" marking a new low in "professional" standards. "Professional" government employees...who'da thunk it???

As for the "out of context" part, are we supposed to feel better, knowing that she really meant "the system worked" AFTER the fact????

Oh, yeah, I'll sleep a lot better tonight, and I'm ready to jump on a plane tomorrow, in that case!

 

mb, Funny you bring up Broom Hilda...

...'cause it appears she has some 'splainin' to do herself.

When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered. -Dorothy Thompson

-Dave

 

Yeah, saw that too, when it

Yeah, saw that too, when it first came out.

Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joseph I. Lieberman
(I-Conn.) joined GOP critics in asking how the suspect was able to
retain a U.S. visa — issued by the U.S. Embassy in London in 2008 —
after his name appeared in the terrorist database.

Well, you see, Joe, they couldn't do anything because they were put in place years ago by the Bush administration. Spokesman
Robert Gibbs said President Obama has ordered reviews of the watch-list
system and the airport explosives screening.

This genius president, who thought George Bush didn't do a single thing right in 8 years, somehow blindly accepted Bush's system without reviewing it?

Memo to Gibbs, and to all the other excuse-makers in the Obama administration:  GROW THE HELL UP!!! Start taking responsibility for your own mistakes!

 

Hollow Words From A Loser

"In the Oval Office today, citing the 'dangerous world' in which we live, President Obama spoke of the awesome responsibility he faces on that score:"

"I wake up everyday thinking how to keep the American people safe."  --- April 29, 2009 cbsnews.com

I remember hearing this at the time and thinking how hollow it sounded. Like he was just saying what he thought we wanted to hear. And even if we use our imaginations and assume that he was sincere, the Flight 253 attack proves that he wasn't thinking hard enough about how to fix the alleged inadequacies of the Bush administration's system, which he and his abundantly talented team must surely have been aware of! 

He is such a LOSER! He'll never take responsibility for his own mistakes, motherbelt. Losers don't do that. 

 

Time and time again

Obama and his spineless cronies have resorted to third grade finger pointing when caught with their pants down and their eye off the ball. Perhaps Napolitano should focus more on radical Islamists than on us middle aged white guys and returning soldiers she seems to think are such a threat to national security. What an utter joke this administration has turned out to be.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

Putting it all together

Remember the comment about pre-9/11: "they didn't put two and two together."

Why not? It's a consequence of treating terrorism as a law enforcement matter, where the defendant's rights are the chief concern, versus treating this as war, where security comes first. When databases don't "talk to each other," that's usually the explanation: it's because the databases aren't designed to create a system of knowledge. Instead, they create "hardened silos" of information, protected from each other information source. That happens when each information source worries about the liability in exposing their treasured knowledge.

Does Janet have glaucoma?

Does Janet have glaucoma? Because I think she's been smoking something...

Hey, easy there...

I've been smokin' something everyday (nightly actually) for 30 years. Hasn't made me a Communist yet. Goldwater Conservative who thinks these Kommunist Keystone Kops are a joke at this point. Maobama is in Hawaii, voting present as usual, while all the other incompetant communists are a bigger joke everyday. With all the stupid liberals in this country, their coup should have been complete by now. Fortunately for normal Americans, the commies can't keep the charade going until November. I guess God really is watching.

I would say

That Obama's security system based on a new found respect for Islam, worked properly. Do you know how damaging to the self esteem of the bomber it would have been if he had been profiled and searched, and they had found the bomb?

These secuirty systems based on respect for Muslims and their self esteem needs are really tough to design properly. Maybe if they added the race bait training they give to police officers like those on the Cambridge police force.

She lives in her very own, Obama administration issued, reality challenged world.

This just in... Matt Lauer

This just in... Matt Lauer was taken to the hospital when he discovered 2 strange lumps in his underpants.   Stay tuned for further reports... 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

There's a lesson here

Bizarre looking women named 'Janet' appointed to the Cabinet by bad Democrat Presidents, just do NOT work out!

Jerry~~

Funny how asking the most obvious question in the world to a member of the Obama Administration requires a certain fortitude usually lacking... I guess he earned his salary for today.

LMAO...I'm glad I wasn't

LMAO...I'm glad I wasn't sipping my coffee just then!

Alas, it will be discovered that it is only a temporary condition.....

Of course, even if Janet "Reno II" Napolitano was to quit...

...or be otherwise forced out, the Bolshevik Boy Wonder would merely select someone else just like her - quite possibly someone even worse.

After all, throughout history, aspiring totalitarians have always chosen their appointees for their political reliability, not for their competence.

When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered. -Dorothy Thompson

-Dave

 

I am still waiting for one

I am still waiting for one of these talking heads to ask: 'How is making all passengers stay in their seats for the last hour of flight going to change ANYTHING for the safe side!?!?' If the passengers on this flight stayed in their seats, THEY WOULD ALL BE DEAD!

D

Write your Congress and Senate and tell them what YOU think!

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Bingo!   Stay put.   Shut

Bingo!   Stay put.   Shut up.  Don't "Act Stupidly" by perpetrating a racist attack on a man of color (who is trying to blow up your plane).

Terrorism is bad but it would be even worse to ruin our airline diversity through racist or xenophobic actions. 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

If you make that rule, the

If you make that rule, the terrorists won't be able to do anything, because, of course, they will obey the rule and stay in their seats and not do anything.

Just like the gun laws!

Blanket Ban

LOL! If blankets are banned, only terrorists will have blankets!

NO PROBLEM...

 I'll just bring my Snuggie.

 

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

Connect the dots Janet.

Connect the dots Janet. Connect the dots. You blame Bush but then do exactly what you accused him doing. 

Napolitano was taken out of context

When she said, "One thing I'd like to point out is that the system worked."  She meant the system where individuals respond to crisis by working toward their own self interest (in this case survival) and the system where Providence smiles your way.  Not the system the Obama Administration is trying so vigorously to put into effect, but rather the one the Founding Fathers and our fighting men and women died to put into effect.

 

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho

Hello... Hello...

anyone in charge here???

Napolitano:  "Oooops... We would've definitely caught him before he got on-board except Bush said his passport was OK and Cheney vouched for the guy as well."

And this Nimrod is in charge of keeping us safe?

Lord help us all. 

This woman is a danger to

This woman is a danger to Americans.  She should be fired.  Write, call, or e-mail your representatives that she should be fired. 

Meanwhile, anyone willing to sit in their seat an hour out from their flight's destination because of this asinine new Homeland "Security" rule by the brain dead Janet "the system worked" Napolidufus?  Anyone out there travel with kids or a pregnant woman that can sit for more than hour before having to go to the bathroom anywhere?

Next thing you know, our president will send half as many troops than were asked for by the field commander in Afghanistan and set a time line for their withdrawal for our enemies . . .  Oh, wait a minute, duhbama already did that!

Anyone for adult leadership in 2010?  2012?

The #1 priority of the

The #1 priority of the Government is to protect citizens from all enemies, foreign and domestic. That's a sacred duty.

In the case of Obama's administration and the currrent Congress, however, the #1 priority is to destroy the healthcare system, the economy and everything else they can screw up. Safety and security? nah.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

For those of you thinking

For those of you thinking JayNap hasn't been effective, you're crazy.

There has not been a single terrorist attack perpetrated by a white conservative Christian male since The One took office.   NOT ONE!  She has totally locked down that demographic.   Mission Accomplished! 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

 And don't forget, the

 And don't forget, the government of Jamaica has just decided not to invade Butte, Montana. Thanks, Janet!

 

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

not quite

Not true. According to the Dimms the shooting of the abortionist doctor and the museum shooting by the old white supremacist were both 'terrorist' acts according to the Janet Definition of such./sarc off

 

not quite

Not true. According to the Dimms the shooting of the abortionist doctor and the museum shooting by the old white supremacist were both 'terrorist' acts according to the Janet Definition of such. /sarc off

 

Janet Napolitano "yeah, we're wondering about YOU ourselves."

Janet you are such an inspiration, I don't think anyone else could have been more appropriate for this Administration yet totally uninspiring to the American Public at large.

Can we send a bus to them?

So we can throw her under it where she belongs?

"While Americans died at Fort Hood, Obama had a good laugh..."

 

Kerryism

The system "worked" after it "failed miserably".

Again...they are blaming the Bush Admin with the "been in place since 2006" statement. Hello! The measures in place were not executed!

 

Laura...I'm waiting for your call

UnFREAKIN' believable!

THIS is the DHS?

Who the hell is change of TSA?

 
Mork or Mindy?  

 

Ah, yes---Bush

Took you long enough to blame Bush for this murderous idiot. Janet--it was 48 hrs--isn't that a personal worst, blaming-Bush-wise?

It would seem that anyone with a lick of sense

would realize they passed the expiration date on the 'Blame Bush' sour grapes about 10 months ago.

It must be a tight squeeze in the oval office desk chair, since apparently O's been sharing it with GWB for the past 11 months.

Seriously, if the man-child didn't want the job, why the hell has he made our lives miserable for the past 3 yrs?

 

=======================================================
On those days I feel like giving up and waving a white flag, I look at the picture of my 10 yr. old grandson in a Young Marines Color Guard, and I remember what's worth fighting for.

I have a flight tonight

Our family get together is Wednesday and I'm supposed to fly tonight to Chicago from LAX.  As of now, I'm 90% sure I will cancel, unless I can get more confidence in the TSA and Homeland Security, i.e. my mother telling me to knock it off and get on the plane.

 I am with your mother on

 I am with your mother on this. Get on the flight. Just keep your eyes open. Situational awareness is never a bad habit to have.

 

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.

George S. Patton

Situational Awareness

Here in Air Force Space Command we call it Space Situational Awareness or SSA for short.  But you know what that is backwards...

Let's Roll

Bring a fine gauge metal guitar string with you, AF. They usually come coiled up in cellophane wrappers, very convenient. Since they're not sharp, you should be able to get it onto the plane. Bring a guitar pick too, which might help if you're questioned about it. Depending on your strength and opportunity--your position in the plane, etc.--you could come up behind a terrorist and pull the string tight round his neck. Or provide someone else with the string and let them do it. Bring gloves too, to protect your hands and get a good grip on it.

Thanks for the advice - Mother won

Of course, it is the Red Eye, so hopefully everyone will be sleeping.  I, on the other hand, will be exhausted because I slept like crap last night.

I'm only 5'1" so I would have to stand on a chair to reach anyone.  But I am willing and able to bite their ankles!

Leg Room

On a lighter note, I am also exactly 5'1", which makes flying more bearable, don't you think? I can curl up comfortably on that little seat and go to sleep. With one eye open of course. Have a safe flight!

D*&^n, miss ninja, I love

how you think!!  I want to be on a plane with you!  And thanks for the tips.  Good to know.

"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the Plain Meaning of Words!" ~Sam Adams

FIGHT!

I haven't tried to bring a guitar string onto a plane yet myself, but I do think it could get past security. And I would not hesitate to use it! Adreneline can work wonders. In a "fight or flight situation," I would FIGHT!  

You go, girl!

Absolutely!  Me too.  Have been working out with 15 lb. free weights (I know, guys, but that's pretty heavy for women) for a while now and could definitely give 'em a fight they'd remember.

"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the Plain Meaning of Words!" ~Sam Adams

Well Ladies

 Might I recomend sharp pencils, they take very little practice and training to use

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Yeah, gc and they leave

a nasty black dot on their arms!  Just teasing... I could imagine using it in the neck - that would work.

"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the Plain Meaning of Words!" ~Sam Adams

Any

Meaty spots, and break them off. Makes one forget all about what they were previously doing. No joke, graphite gets sharp like a needle

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

To misquote both Gen. Honore and an old drillsgt.

 They are not stuck on stupid, they are springloaded in that position!

 

 It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.

George S. Patton

And springloaded with a

And springloaded with a hair trigger- LOL.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Obama vacation photo just released...

I like Obama on vacation

Because it is now 11:20 a.m., and he hasn't been on my TV screen blathering about his topic of the day.

I needed to recharge my batteries, too.   Another thousand or so Obama-less days ought to do it.

I hope he fails, too. 

 

 

Where's Stinky's apologists?

Not one lib posting on this thread (so far) to defend Stinky BO and his minion?  How odd.  Surely, there is some way one of the socialists can spin this to their advantage.  No?  H-m-m-m must be they are afraid of flying too.

"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the Plain Meaning of Words!" ~Sam Adams

Yes and here I am

Grandmother of 17 and 2 great grandchildren.  But, I have to take my shoes off my arthritic feet.  Carry my shampoo in a eye dropper bottle, leave my water at home.  Why wasn't this person body searched and x-rayed.  I'm not on any terrorist list but I have to go through more security checks then they do!  I know this has been heard before but COME ON JANET!!!!

Nap Time

You're doing a heckuva job Nappy.

Now RESIGN!

"Sick" Nigerian, sure...

Yeah the system worked, just like on Sunday, the guy on the same flight days later was JUST SICK.  He was also from Nigeria, stayed in the bathroom an hour and would not get out; coincidence?   Perhaps he flushed his bomb kit & the FBI is lying?  Dry run/probe? Maybe they forgot to check in the toilet...

Or the Arab guys who would not obey and get off their cell phones. 

All just normal.  Don't worrry!   M-B''

Ref:  Sunday's guy: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_airline_attack_arrest

DUH!

Good grief, why not just state the obvious.

I've taken that flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, and I was surprised at the lack of security in Amsterdam.  That should not be a surprise from an airport that prides itself in selling keychains and trinkets that glorify smoking pot.

It's time to through out the political correctness and start profiling.  The TSA spends time inspecting the shoes of a 90 year old woman but won't look twice at an Arab man who has no baggage and has a one way ticket.  Look at every person who has died  or was caught trying to kill innocent people.  Profiling will save lives.  Political correctness endangers all of us.

Too true DaMama, it's bend over America the PC Police are here.

The muslim loving PC crowd will have us checking granny panties before they admit to profiling for the obvious terrorists. 

His Dad's a banker?

I wonder if his dad is one of those bankers working out of an internet cafe and deciding to trust me with an inheritance from an army colonel he happens to know. This comment has nothing to do with this, of course, sorry. I also think the link (below) to pot smoking in Amsterdam and this incident might be shaky.

SUBSTANDARD!

As with virtually every single appointment the 0bamanation has made that is supposed to preserve, protect and defend the United States of America, this one, too, is DELIBERATELY unqualified.

Do we see a pattern here, patriotic American citizens? To what end?

Then: "The system worked." Now: "It's Bush's fault."

Same old same old.

Strange

Does anyone else find it odd that this incident took place Christmas Day and by Monday morning we have still not heard a peep out of our Illustrious President? He seems to like to lay low until the dust settles, and let his gang of nincompoops do his talking for him. He really is in over his head.

Early reports say that when

Early reports say that when told of the event, Obama's first words were: "Would you please let me finish my waffles?"

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

What did you expect from her???

Obviously she didn't read (or understand) the 9/11 report so what did you except???

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1519587

Help wanted to connect the dots

DHS Secretary "we were immediately able to notify the 128 flights in the air of protective measures to take, immediately able to notify law enforcement on the ground, airports both domestically, internationally, all carriers, all of that happening within 60 to 90 minutes,"...yet the President wasn't informed until around the 3 hour point because the event wasn't deemed to be significant.

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

Hot & Qualified

She's so hot, bright, intelligent, qualified....I feel so safe with him...I mean her looking out for us.  Geez...

Has it occured to anyone that what failed

was that the passengers actually stopped this guy?

Recall that Bill Clinton whined that there was no opportunity similar to 9-11 during his administration. He really thought it would have been to his political advantage to have one.

Is it possible that the administration is waiting for one of these things to succeed so that they can step in and say, "Bush didn't do enough! We have to do more." Then establish even more draconian rules on our citizens to "prevent it from ever happening again."

There really are very few reasonable analyses of the situation:
*This administration is truly ignorant of the realities...
*This administration is occupied by stupid people...
*This administration sees a successful attack as an opportunity for more control of our lives!

 

Did our system really fail

Did our system really fail or did these specific employees that allowed him to board fail?

I don't see how this event is indicative a failure of the DHS's system. 

yes, it failed big time!

It failed because the father notified US Officials about his son but no one really thought to say or do ANYTHING about it.  It failed because he was in a TIDE database of 500,000(which is a lame excuse, computer searches these days are fast) but the TIDE database was not searched and when the warning was made, no change in status in the guy's file was ever made. 

It failed because he had several signs that should have raised very big red flags, namely: no luggage, paid for ONE-way ticket with cash, was a Muslim.  It failed on Nigeria's end and Amsterdam's end because a bomb-sniffing dog would have picked up on the scent of the very common explosive that was used.  That was a VERY big security hole that may now be exploited.

And the biggest failure of all was when the DHS decided to change the rules for everyone by saying they all have to remain seated in the last hour of the flight.  And by that final token, the terrorists who gave this would-be bomber the orders have the last laugh.  They didn't get the big boom, but they got the change in behavior for the masses, which is often a goal of terrorists.

Anyone want to add anything?

-Jon

jon - Thanks for the great

jon - Thanks for the great post. I agree with you that at each of those steps there were massive failures, however, I don't think that indicates a failure of the system.

The system should have worked. The father's notification should have prompted a TIDE update which should have led to this guy being denied entrance at the airport.

It seems to me that there was human failure at each stage, not systemic failure. That's what's scariest to me. The DHS's processes should be effective. However, if you don't have high caliber people minding the shop, no system in the world is going to work.

Just look at airport screeners. It's unskilled, low-wage labor and these are the people put in place as the last line of defense. That's terrifying. How could one develop a system that could override human error / human indifference? I'm not sure it's possible.

People are trying to use this event to indicate some sort of failure by the Obama administration, but I think that's a futile effort. The fact of the matter is that this event resulted from human error, not a systemic failure.

Such nonsense!

Such nonsense! Until and unless those defective people are replaced or not selected for each stage along the way, (it's a system failure to select defective people in the first place) our security system failed. Must we wait for robots to fail before we can call it a "system failure?"

And by the way, there are countless failures of the Obama Administration- this is just one of them. Janet Napolitano has been saying that the system worked for the past three days. Of course, Janet says a lot of things that don't ring true. She doesn't get it that these "man-caused disasters" might be caused by terrorists after all.

Thalpy - I agree that those

Thalpy - I agree that those people should be replaced or effectively screened before hired, but the simple fact of the matter is that it's hard to find a dedicated work staff for low-paying, low-skilled jobs. How can you change that? Pay more? Well how would that be funded?

I agree that Napolitano handled this like an idiot of the highest order, but that doesn't change the fact that the system did not fail, the people did.

Bullfrog

"The fact of the matter is that this event resulted from human error, not a systemic failure."

Since "the system" depends on humans to operate properly, human error equals systemic failure.

 

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On those days I feel like giving up and waving a white flag, I look at the picture of my 10 yr. old grandson in a Young Marines Color Guard, and I remember what's worth fighting for.

Do you think DHS is like 'The Matrix' or something?

Human beings are the major part of the 'system.'

It could be any clearer it was an epic fail. The maniac's own father ratted him out, for crying out loud.

"CO2 is a dangerous gas, if you don't believe go sit in your running vehicle in the garage for a couple of hours." – Poindexter Q. Enak, PhD, 12-16-09

Zip, zero, zilch....

Nothing to see here folks. Just another terrorist ablaze with his pants pulled down. Move along.

How could it not fail?

How could it not fail? it was designed to fail! any one who knows anything about 'security' knows this is a POS of an excuse for a "secure" system. And everyone also knows that Janet Napolitano is the worst possible choice to have in charge of security. When she was governor of Arizona she did absolutely nothing about border security! She is a fool and that is the only reason she qualifes as a member of this administration.

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