Scarborough: Comparing Palin To Howard Dean 'Insult To Dean's Intelligence'

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Joe Scarborough was surely right about one thing . . . when he warned that his pronouncement would "enrage conservatives."

The Morning Joe host today proclaimed that comparing Sarah Palin to Howard Dean was an insult . . . to Dean's intelligence.

Joe's jab came in response to an analogy Time's Mark Halperin drew between the excitement Palin creates and that drummed up by Dean's presidential campaign in 2004.

MARK HALPERIN: Think about it compared to Howard Dean in 2004.  He was exciting too, and he had these huge crowds, and people said, this guy's going win the Democratic nomination --

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Not the same, sorry --

HALPERIN: Well, it's big crowds and it's excitement, but it doesn't translate into a governing majority.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: I'm just going to stop here.  I'm going to enrage conservatives, but --

OFF-CAMERA VOICE [Katrina vanden Heuvel?]: Go for it!

SCARBOROUGH: I know Howard Dean.  I've spoken to Howard Dean. It is such a disservice to compare--forget ideology, conservatives!--I think Howard's way left and all that.  But it is such a disservice to compare Sarah Palin in any aspect to Howard Dean. Yes, because that is an insult to Howard Dean's intelligence.

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RINOPlasty

Sarah Palin just gets RINO's in an uproar.  These ad-hominem attacks probably hide a deep seated fear.

Is that covered by oBamaCare?

That makes the enemy more readily identifiable. I will provide the tar and feathers if you like...

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

I was thinking the same

I was thinking the same thing. I think RINO’s hate Sarah Palin more than democrats do. More threatened maybe?

 

I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me. - Hunter S. Thompson

SCARBOROUGH: I know Howard

SCARBOROUGH: I know Howard Dean.  I've spoken to Howard Dean. It is
such a disservice to compare--forget ideology, conservatives!--I think
Howard's way left and all that.  But it is such a disservice to compare
Sarah Palin in any aspect to Howard Dean. Yes, because that is an
insult to Howard Dean's intelligence.

If you're a true conservative, Joe, you have to come to the conclusion
that Dean is wrong about most things. Yet, you still feel he's more
intelligent than Palin. I think that's very telling. Either you don't honestly believe Dean is more intelligent and you're just pandering
to your mostly liberal audience or you're a faux conservative. Not very
attractive either way.

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

Scarborough = Fraud

...forget ideology, conservatives!

That's been traitor Joe's problem from Day One!

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

..forget ideology,

..forget ideology, conservatives!

That's been traitor Joe's problem from Day One!- Sgt. Rock

Indeed.  Joe's not even a RINO any more: he's become just another liberal whose prescription for Republican quasi-success is for them to "forget ideology" and be more like Democrats.

Can't we all just get along?

That's his mantra. And what does that accomplish exactly? 

There are too many on the 'right' that are too willing to surrender their principles to achieve this (See also; Bob 'Big Tent' Dole). 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

" If you're a true

" If you're a true conservative, Joe, you have to come to the conclusion that Dean is wrong about most things." Spot on, Newsbusterbrown.  And, if Dean is wrong about most things, then, given his education, he is not intelligent, but either extremely stupid (an educated fool) or extremely malicious ... or maliciously stupid.

I think Sarah Palin is, in fact, much smarter than Dr. Dean.  She may not have a Doctorate Degree, but she has real world experience as a mother and citizen, and executive experience as a mayor and governor. In fact, much more executive experience than the jug-eared marxist thug that was elected.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Try as they might, the

Try as they might, the Pravda media can't shoot straight when it comes to Sarah Palin.  They're obviously scared of this women, and by constantly and consistantly attacking her they make her more popular.

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

Running scared

I have to admit that Palin is not my number one choice for 2012, but given the attention she receives from her enemies on almost daily basis, I'm starting to warm to the idea.

Thank you democRATS for potentially orchestrating your own defeat.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

I haven't thought too far

I haven't thought too far ahead to the 2012 election yet, and don't know if Sarah is Presidential timber, or not, but human nature tells me that one doesn't attack what one doesn't fear.

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

Watch Scarborough look at Mika sometime

He strikes me as a guy who doesn't think very highly of women generally. (Otherwise known as a misogynist.)  Granted that Mika is a prissy, arrogant b-word, who has an overweaning pride about her father (and he did such a great job in the Carter administration-not!), but when you watch Scarborough watch Mika speaking, you can easily see how little he thinks of her.  Palin is the last person Scarborough wants to see leading the Republican party, because she would see right through him- he's full of bull and she'd catch on to it immediately.

I don't know if Palin is Presidential timber either, but she is "authentic," just as Reagan was.  "I meant what I said, and I said what I meant, an elephant's faithful, 100%!"  Dr.Seuss' stories resonate because they reflect human archetypes.  Obama is the Mayzie Bird, flitting around, taking credit for what others have done.  The Scarboroughs of the world are carnival barkers.   

Focus on 2010

It's too early to speculate about 2012.  We've got an equally (if not more) important fight on our hands in 2010.  Stay focused.  One thing at a time. 

We here in Jersey and our neighbors in Virginia started things up a couple weeks ago.  2012 won't even be worth worrying about if we don't continue the trend started in NJ and VA.   We need to focus on the house and 1/3 of the senate next.  Any arguing, posturing and speculating about 2012 is wasted effort that would be better expended by fighting for wins in 2010 by solid conservatives.  That in turn will help clear out the fog of the centrist panderers two years later.  

Focus on 2010 and 2012 will fall into place.

Save the rainforest ... emit more CO2

I think she could be a

I think she could be a major contender but its way too early to tell as the fiield has not been filled out yet.  I like her because she seems to have common sense and can speak to the people.  But, we will see the attacks continue to denigrate her in the eyes of those who get their news from the nets or Jon Stewart or such.

One of my co-workers says she doesnt think Palin is smart or has wahat it takes to run teh country and I ask her why and she says she doesnt know but just her opinion.  She watches the nets.  She has some conservative leanings but her mind aint right.

Dumbed down

Some are easily convinced with a soundbite from the SRM. The problem is - they vote.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Some friends

Some friends of mine are so closed minded when it comes to  conservative women like Sarah Palin, Liz Cheney and Michelle Bachman. They spend little or no time looking into the stories of these women. I think that they are afraid that they might actually agree with their positions and have to tell their friends that they are conservative at heart.

Wow! The misogyny is legendary...

and just doesnt end.   In the end, it still just blah, blah, blah.
I am not in love with either party at this point, but remember when Kerry was the intellectual and W was the dope.  It was only after the election that they released the college GPA's and W's was higher.  Also, W cant talk fluently in public forums but now Obama waxes eloquently.....Have you seem Obama talk "off the cuff?"  Er, Uh, Uh, let me make this perfectly clear, Umm, etc etc The guy is just as tongue tied as Bush. 
And if our 2000-2010 leaders are "geniuses," just give me some  reasonably intelligent people who have simple policy positions:  balance budget, tort reform, fight wars to win, energy independence, etc.
Palin is plenty smart, but she IS a woman, you know; wink,nod
Notice Hilary wasnt throwing her overboard.

Dean's lack of

Dean's lack of intelligence*

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

all I can say is

Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

Dayum!!!

You beat me by 9 minutes. I, too, wanted to quote the ''Intelligent'' Dean. 

 

Sarah Palin: The Most Dangerous Conservative In America

Measuring Intelligence

I'll give ordinary liberals a pass assuming they don't spend much time thinking about the ideology they support, but among the political elite who embrace liberal orthodoxy I logically conclude they can only believe what they believe because they are morons. 

We all know the list of liberal policies (war on poverty anyone?) which have proven wrong no matter how often they are tried, yet still the mainstream media has the audacity to claim those promoting these policies have gravitas.  Joe Scarborough thinks Dean is smarter than Palin only because he himself is an idiot. 

Ideology is precisely the reason why we know Palin is twice as intelligent as Dean.

outing the left wing dolts

This is good... now Scarborough is shown for what he is... a pretender...  just like that Scuzzywhatshername... a Trojan horse of sorts...

so, now that he is out as a liberal butt kisser, we ignore him along with the rest of the dolts on MSNBC... just as most of America is...

who really cares what he says... do you? I don't even watch this network and only hear about these things on sites like this...  gee, what if no one even posted this crap on a site like this... would we even know... would more than a couple hundred thousand Americans out of more than 300 million even know who he is???

If I want to get an

If I want to get an educated opinion on Sarah Palin relative to Howard Dean, that intellectual lightweight RINO with the dead secretary is the last person whose viewpoint I'd seek.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."  -George Best

No Coffee In My Mouth...

...at the moment I read the headline!!! What a joke.

Do not doubt me!!! They will always show us who they fear. It is those they go after and attack the most.

AP assigned 11, count 'em, ELEVEN writers to debunk, er, "fact-check" Palin's book. Why have they not done the same with the PelosiCare bill, the stimulus/porkulus bill and the various cap & tax, er "trade" bills? Why haven't they "examined" the people surrounding PBO with the same ferocity they have gone after Palin and conservative talk show hosts like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, et al?

They truly are the lame-stream media.

--

We need to stop calling them "Progressives" when in reality they are big government "Socialists" who no longer value the individual's rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Wildcatter

11 debunkers were assigned because, Sarah's a threat?

You Betcha!

And people say that Joe is....

too stupid to know on what side his bread is buttered.   As if Joe Scarborough was some giant intellect.

Jack

"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart.  If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains."   Sir Winston Churchill

Joe Scarborough.

An enigma wrapped in a beltway caccoon of elite leftists. 

 

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

Katrina???

So Katrina Van den Hoover is an MSNBC director now?

Scarborough is a wimp

He tries to play it both ways. He wants to be liked by everyone. Just like most moderates. It makes them (moderates) feel important that they can play both sides of the aisle and get attention.

Moderate - Defined

lol.. you nailed it precisely! Now wait for the 'YELP!' from one of the dogs you hit with that rock.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Lindsay Graham

You feel like a target for a rock?

stupid is as stupid does

If Joe thinks Dean is wrong on most things then how can he call him smart?  Joe seems so smarmy since he has been at MSNBC. He is like a shapeshifter trying to find a place that ingratiates him to what he percieves as the current political sweet spot.

Scarborough

He's right, he enraged this Conservative. I thank him for one thing, he embodies everything that is wrong with the Republicans, and why they're failures.  With all the lies and unfair attacks against her, he - very safely - piles on. What a brave man.

The reality is he's a coward, afraid of real intelligence, integrity, and honesty.

Your right Joe you've enraged some conservatives. You and people like you are the reason conservatives don't identify themselves as Republicans anymore.

 

You have no clue how right

You have no clue how right you are.  If you read up on Joes background, you can see a history of the same thing.

Ummm ...

 Who's Joe Scarborough?

 Save the rainforest ... emit more CO2

I think

I think Joe just likes to vault out of obscurity and into NB for a day...well, enjoy it, bud!

 

The RINO'S fatal flaw

Putting his ridiculous statement aside, you have to ask yourself why Scarborough says things like this. Why do any of these RINOS say what they say? As is often pointed out, "liberals"never do this. They defended Clinton's behavior, for crying out loud! They defended Congressman Jefferson to the bitter end. Now the guy gets 15 years. They defend Charlie Rangel. On and on. But any chance a RINO gets to criticize a person on their team, they do it. Scarborough is a fool.

Moreover, what is this politics of personal destruction on Scarborough's part all about? Does this guy think this helps anyone's cause? Unbelievable!

 

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Stop Drinking the kool-aid (Starbucks)

Scarborough is a bad judge of character if he thinks Howard 'I thing we had quite enough capitalism' Dean is intelligent.  Maybe he is drinking dog urine instead of Starbucks coffee. - yea

"Now that we're on dog pee, we can have an interesting conversation
about that. I do not recommend drinking urine…but if you drink water
straight from the river, you have a greater chance of getting an
infection than you do if you drink urine." —Dean teaching an eight-grade
science class in La Crosse, Wisconsin

Scarborough is playing hide the salami or whatever you call it with the liberals. Yeeeeeaaaaaargh!

A sad commentary on Mr.

A sad commentary on Mr. Scarborough. Ever since the election he has been drinking koolaid and trying to McCainize the party despite the dreadful election in 2008. How he can claim Dean is 'more intelligent' than  Gov. Palin is beyond me. If he means that Dean had a medical degree, well that's some indication of intelligence. But if being intelligent means being correct on public policy positions on a B or better average, then Dean fails miserably and Gov Palin has been more correct and therefore more 'intelligent' and thus Joe is completely wrong. I guess hanging out with all the liberals on his shows and catering to those in the audience has turned Joe into either a RINO or into a DIABLO (Democrap In All But Labeling Oneself). I used to be able to listen to Joe as a supplement to Fox, but he has gone way off the reservation. I hope he finds his way back but am not hopeful.

 

Eaglwingz

DIABLO....it kind of rolls off the tongue!

 

The long version is true but a bit awkward.

You know what I love...

 

You know what I love about these incessant attacks on Sarah Palin?  The great majority of Americans who believe that anybody could be president, and root for the underdog are going to one day say "hey wait a minute, why the hell do they keep attacking her, I'm tired of it".  

 Scarborough has confused intelligence with wisdom and words for principles.  Dean is wrong on everything, but he's smart?!?!?!

He probably voted for Obama.

Scarborough

double post

Scarborough

is from my area of the country. Don't be fooled by his "GOP" credentials. He was a democrat before he was a Republican but switched parties when he could see in the tea leaves staying a Dem was not a smart political move here.

The panhandle was shifting parties like a flood during the Reagan revolution. Scarborough is just another opportunist in a long line of GOP opportunists. He replaced Earl Hutto, a democrat who never voted until the last possible second so he could see which way the vote was going and if the dems already had it in the bag, Earl would vote with the GOP so he could appease the very conservative base in Pensacola area. Earl retired, Joe switched parties so he could catch the wave of conservatism sweeping the country. He is a parasite like so many others we have found out be wolves in sheeps clothing; Genl. Powell, Newt, McCain, Lucy Graham, and of course Scarborough.

He would have us think that HE is the only hope left for the Republican Party. He has not yet figured out that today's conservatives don't give a big RA about Parties much anymore and have shifted our focus on Conservatisim and following the Constitution regardless of party. His own personal life was a pile and he reluctantly gave up his seat, tried to fit back into life in the area and wasn't taken as seriously as he was accustomed to so he has sold his soul for a platform to keep his face and agenda before the public. No one cares. He is yesterday's news. He for a short time was the darling of the GOP and got onto TV at every chance while in office. He did some good but only because locals watch their reps closely and with suspicion from decades of being played and lied to.

Pensacola and surrounding areas are huge military complexes with a fresh supply of conservatives moving in and out of the area regularly and a massive retired military and civil service population. Joe found out the old adage was true; you can't ever go home again. He wants and needs the attention he gets from controversy. I personally think it is simply jealously on his part regarding Sarah Palin.

Oh yeah, his newspaper was free! They could not sell them so they had to rely on advertisers only. It was basically a rag that had a few articles worth reading but for the most part was just a thinner version of the Thrifty Nickel. Like I said, no one was interested.

In short, he is just a fart in a windstorm.

doug

So tell us your real opinion of Joe. Sounds like you know him only too well.

It is amazing how locals know the histories of their representatatives. Having seen Dennis, "The Menace", kucinioch in action in his early days, I wonder how enough moderates vote for him to send him back to Washington. Maybe it's just self preservation by them, sending him as far away as possible.

I hear that

Everyone wants to clean out Congress but most think their guy is still okay. I guess it may be the old thing of "Well, he is an SOB but he is OUR S.O.B." 

I think the luster had begun to fade on Joe S. in the local arena somewhat but he still had no real problems getting reelected his last time out. There was even talk a time or two of him running for a Senate seat but it never got off the ground. The reasons for that I do not know. Could have been some waved him off on that knowing he has some dirty unanswered and lingering questions about a dead campaign worker found in one of his offices. Annoying little things like that tend to put voters off.  It was ruled an accident by the local gendarme and coroner, quietly faded out of the news. I think he began to think too highly of himself as well. Another unappealing character flaw. Dumped his wife, married another, pretty much the Washington D.C. script that Newt and others have followed.

Hey Doug... Thanks for

Hey Doug...

Thanks for the info I didn't know regarding Joe Blow, I never knew he was a dem before....you explained what he has done previous to being swept in in 94...phony that he is, it started showing on the House floor before he left, I would tell my husband I didn't understand why and how he was changing so much...he did it gradually, pretty soon, not even that anymore.

You filled in the holes for me.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Something I did not mention

Scarborough tried to lead an unsuccessful coup to oust Newt from the Speaker job. That  is where he dropped his candy in the sand with Newty and crew and from that time on he was no longer the new golden boy of the House GOP. I think that was the real reason he left and went back home under the guise of wanting to be with his sons. 

Hey Mark

Rush just played this clip on the air.

I didn't hear him mention your article, but I just logged onto the webcam.  Thought you'd want to know.  1st hour, about five minutes ago.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

EL-RUSHBO...

 Let me get this straight, the Morning Schmo is questioning the smarts of Palin, while co-hosting a show with Mika? This woman is there because she's hot & is conected. That's it, because she sure as hell brings nothing to the table outside of the fact she looks good sitting at the table.

BTW, maybe Mika should quit bitching about the Carrie Prejean story not going away. Carrie could do Mika's "job" very easily, if she was willing to put up with what seems to be an almost hostile workplace. Maybe a ca$h-4-clunkers deal could be set up...just saying.

 

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

Thanks for letting me know,

Thanks for letting me know, Blonde: I was out flying.  Rush did link  to the article at his Stack of Stuff.

She is so smart

every time i hear her speak i feel like i learned something.  she knows how to wink, a definite plus for any potential pres candidate. She sure knows how to deal with russia, having lived so close to the country. 

Yes, she's a regular scholar. She reads so many newspapers she couldn't name any of them when asked.  

Okay enough sarcasm. i hope the republicans run her so they will be laughed at and shown for what fake conservatives they are. and hopefully a new conservative party will emerge from the ashes of the republicans. and the "invade the world, invite the world...on the credit card"  "deficits? who cares just keep printing money" mantra of the phony conservatism that we get from bush and palin mccain will be over.  

 

Try again.

i hope the republicans run her so they will be laughed at and shown for
what fake conservatives they are. and hopefully a new conservative
party will emerge from the ashes of the republicans. and the "invade
the world, invite the world...on the credit card"  "deficits? who cares
just keep printing money" mantra of the phony conservatism that we get
from bush and palin mccain will be over.
 

Could you translate this to english, please.

 

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

"Could you translate this

"Could you translate this to english, please."

I seriously doubt it.

Poor sajc, you just can't

Poor sajc, you just can't help with the liberal's revisionist history.  Bush did not "invade the world".  He responded to the murder of 3000 American citizens by a group that received state sponsorship by the government of Afghanistan.  He also responded to the continued threat of a country we and our allies had beaten in an earlier war.  That country proceded to violate every condition in the armistice that ended that war.  And, sajc, even your beloved liberals advocated going back into Iraq to stop Saddam's continued pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, even before W was elected!  As for deficits and printing more money, what do you think your beloved Mulatto Marxist is doing/advocating?  Take a look at the effect Ear Leader's policies have had on GDP, employment, and tax revenues.

As they say on another blogsite: Teh Stupid is strong with this one. 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Hey Mike B... I love you

Hey Mike B...

I love you 'Ear Leader' quip there, I usually post 'Walks on Water', 'O' or 'Dear Leader'....from now on when I want to use 'Dear Leader', I hope to remember 'Ear Leader'...you've got me laughing!

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Sac

You're just Trolling.

Scarborough and his msnbc

Scarborough and his msnbc a$$-kissing couldn't get any deeper.

...remember when it was floating around he may be great Presidential material awhile back? Which I think was him that started that silly thought, you'd have to be brain-dead to vote for him, unless your a leftist.

Sounds like he's got a case of the green eyed monster.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Right, President Scarborough and Senator Tingles

And we're delusional?

Lol SoL... That's right

Lol SoL...

That's right Tingles was seriously thinking about running for Senator.

Senator Tingles....that was good.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

Dr. Dean

I have heard Howard Dean give speeches and engage in interviews.  I am NOT overly impressed with his intelligence level, as Scarborough appears to be.

This implies to me that people consider Dean to be intelligent because he is an MD (but then, so is Maj. Hassan).

Which leads to one of my favorite jokes:

Q.  What do they call the person who graduated last from Medical school?

A.  "Doctor".

And as far as Katrina vanden Heuvel goes, she is really a lame excuse for a human being.  She used to make frequent appearances on O'Reilly, but I haven't seen her for quite a while.  Probably because O'Reilly used to chew her up and spit her out. 

Joe Scarborough just couldn't let David Brooks words stand.

Joe had to prove he was the bigger asshat to maintain his standing as a faux republican for his beltway buddies.

Howard the Duck!

Howard Dean has intelligence! I have never heard that line before. Probably, because the line is a bold face LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe

I have just one word to say about Howard Dean             

EEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!

 

"Nuff Said!"

Isn't "far left" and

Isn't "far left" and "intelligent" a bit of a contradiction?