WaPo TV critic Tom Shales [file photo] has come up with a creative new defense of Roman Polanski: Hollywood thirteen-year olds aren't really thirteen.
NB reader FT pointed us to an online exchange between a reader and Shales today that included this [emphasis added]:
Tom Shales: Hello, Dunn Loring, I didn't want to sign off without trying to answer your question. I didn't realize I had written a column defending Roman Polanski and minimized his crime - are you sure it was me? I mean, I? There is, apparently, more to this crime than it would seem, and it may sound like a hollow defense, but in Hollywood I am not sure a 13-year-old is really a 13-year-old.
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As reader FT observed: "So according to Shales, it's OK to rape a 13 year-old if she's from California, apparently because they grow up faster there."
For that matter, judging by the victim's grand jury testimony, what Polanski did might well have been "rape-rape" even by Whoopi Goldberg's standards, and regardless of the victim's age.
But leave it to Shales to join the liberal wagon-circling around one of their own.
Note: this isn't the first time Shales has risen to Polanski's defense. Last year he wrote a sympathetic review of a movie that characterized the prosecution of Polanski as a "perversion of justice."
And now for some comic relief: In the same response in which he made his suggestion that Polanski should be let off the hook because Hollywood 13-year olds are different, Shales wrote [emphasis added]:
I am a critic, I don't have to be "fair and balanced" and critize every faction equally. I swear to you I do not do it on ideological or political grounds, not consciously.
As Tim Graham of MRC/NB has documented, "Shales has betrayed a liberal bias . . . for a long time." Guess it must all be unconscious ;-)
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Isn't that even worse? So
October 6, 2009 - 13:22 ET by MaximusBraveheartIsn't that even worse? So children in Hollywood are conditioned in advance to be sexually abused and then the adults "in-charge" of Hollywood knowingly take advantage of it! M-B
I do not recall which
October 6, 2009 - 17:31 ET by MaximusBraveheartI do not recall which day that was; maybe last Friday, Today Show, NBC, did a sell-out sales-pitch "report" on Polanski. I have NEVER heard such a slanted one sided report in my life. It was unbelievable.
M-B
What a slimeball.
October 6, 2009 - 13:25 ET by MidAmericaWhat a slimeball.
Once again.....
October 6, 2009 - 15:14 ET by pantryman.....one of the greatest gifts that Shales, Polanski and Letterman (oh, and Maher as well) could give to humanity would be for all get together and quietly bleed to death.
I am white and friggin-A straight proud of it !
Well, there you have it.
October 6, 2009 - 13:26 ET by jdhawkWell, there you have it. Jabba the Hut has weighed in! Let Polanski go . . .
You know, Polanski really looks very youthful for his age. And while he is in prison, I am sure his cell mate will think so too and a whole lot more. But, then again, I don't think they call that rape-rape! Let's ask Whoopi.
Another perverted sick disgusting news vignette from MSNBC. The station for socialists young and old . . .
Prison is too good for Polanski
October 6, 2009 - 14:55 ET by GalvanicIf Polanski does get jail time and is assaulted or even killed while in confinement (Hardened criminals don't like child rapers), Shales will undoubtably write a column blaming . . . George W. Bush.
It sounds like Tom thinks
October 6, 2009 - 13:29 ET by Jack BauerIt sounds like Tom thinks she was "asking for it."
When oh when is Hollywood going to drop its 19th Century views on women as property where no really means "yes."
Next thing you know, they
October 6, 2009 - 14:19 ET by motherbeltNext thing you know, they will be claiming that she seduced him.
mb -- well those 13 year old
October 6, 2009 - 16:18 ET by Jack Bauermb -- well those 13 year old temptresses are always to blame with middle-aged creeps.
I don't know about you, but
October 6, 2009 - 13:32 ET by ConservativeRexI don't know about you, but if I lived in this fellas neighborhood I'd check to see if he was on the sex offender list. That kind of thinking is wrong. Bordering on mentally sick.
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That is so weird...
October 6, 2009 - 13:33 ET by svh83Shales looks a bit like "Fatty" Arbuckle with longer hair and glasses. Maybe they are related somehow, given the Arbuckle scandal and Shales' attitude toward rape of a 13 year old.
Just speculation of course.
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What a dumb ass. 13 is 13
October 6, 2009 - 13:35 ET by ricklailWhat a dumb ass. 13 is 13 no matter whether it is in Hollywood or here where I live. The law does not diferentate by location. He has been watching too much TV where the typical 13 year old is played by a 21 year old.
Semper suprene nitens
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rick--
October 6, 2009 - 17:23 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"What a dumb ass. 13 is 13 no matter whether it is in Hollywood or here where I live."
And "no" still means "no".
In Hollywood, Tom Shales,
October 6, 2009 - 13:37 ET by ThisnThatIn Hollywood, Tom Shales, I'm not sure any person there -- is really a human being. At least as humanity recognizes cerebral, thinking, caring human beings.
And what do you say about Polanski's conviction, Tom Shales? Are you now telling us he was wrongly convicted of rape -- because the 13-year old really wasn't a 13-year old?
Finally, sh$t-for-brains, how do you really live with yourself after spewing this filth?
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There just isn't any way
October 6, 2009 - 13:48 ET by HockeyKidThere just isn't any way you can spin that comment to make it sound anything other than completely deplorable.
Shales, you're a predator and a pervert. Not to mention a cetacean.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Well said, HockeyKid!
October 6, 2009 - 14:29 ET by motherbeltThere just isn't any way you can spin that comment to make it sound anything other than completely deplorable.
You are right about that.
But Shales and his "Free Polanski" (subset of the "Free Mumia" movement) crowd will continue to try.
Question for Mr. Shales: Why do you think it's OK to sedate a girl or a woman of any age with Quaalude, for the purpose of getting her to agree to sex acts?
Shales answers: "'Cause I
October 6, 2009 - 18:39 ET by HockeyKidShales answers: "'Cause I can't get 'em any other way..."
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
A PERVERTY LOOKING GUY COMMENTS ON PERVERTS
October 6, 2009 - 13:58 ET by SgthulkaIf you had to pick a a guy out of line-up who was a child molester, wouldn't Tom Shales be your prime suspect?
Liberals
October 6, 2009 - 13:58 ET by FeynmanFanLiberals: no moral foundation, no objective sense of right and wrong.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
What an ass
October 6, 2009 - 13:58 ET by sam12663Shales is worse than those that signed the 'free Polanski petition'. It is people like him; those lacking morals and decency; that have led this nation to the brink of a moral armageddon. The number of people who actually make excuses and 'feel sorry for' losers like Letterman and Polanski is truly sickening. Permissiveness and the lack of morality is so pervasive in our nation today, starting in our schools and at home, that it is considered 'out of touch' of 'square' if you hold true to a belief of decency and civility. You are bashed and ridiculed if you profess faith in God and Jesus. If you center your life on the Gospels, the morality of many in society is truly disheartening. The next 'tea party' movement will be an effort to restore values and morals back into society.
President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Disgusting.
October 6, 2009 - 14:02 ET by Mike in AZI just sent Mr. Shales the following e-mail:
Mr. Shales:
If it is true that you said, "...it may sound like a hollow defense, but in Hollywood I am not sure a 13-year-old is really a 13-year-old," you ought to be ashamed. It is not only a hollow defense, it is a thoroughly disgusting point of view. I'm not sure that a journalist at the Washington Post is really a journalist, rather just an advocate for pedophilia.
Mike...
October 6, 2009 - 15:16 ET by jdlybrandI've written these folks on occasion. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a reply. But didn't you feel better after you hit the send button!? I know I did.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
I'm not expecting any reply.....
October 6, 2009 - 15:27 ET by Mike in AZBut if he does reply, I'm sure it will be some sort of snide swipe or lame defense like, "I have a right to my opinion." I'm so sick of these "people" - and I use the term loosely.
I sure would like to see this guy and his ilk get their comeuppance. It's been a long time coming.
Tom Bat Shales-Guano
October 6, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Jack BauerI think you're some kind of deviated prevert. I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts. Now MOVE!
Mr. Shingles probably has a
October 6, 2009 - 14:22 ET by mattmMr. Shingles probably has a 13 year old blow-up doll.
Shales and Sex?
October 6, 2009 - 14:31 ET by BW222My guess is that Tom Shales sexual activity with women is extremely limited - maybe to Helen Thomas and Barbara Milkuski.
BW222
Thanks BW
October 6, 2009 - 15:18 ET by jdlybrandNow I have to clean my laptop screen! :-o
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Even if we were to agree
October 6, 2009 - 14:37 ET by ckc1227Even if we were to agree that 13 isn't 13 in Hollywood, how does that make drugging a girl into submission and then engaging in non-consensual sex ok? Is that appropriate, legal behavior at any age?
Ummm....I'm thinking no.
True Colors
October 6, 2009 - 15:01 ET by MindsBiggerWhat are we actually witnessing when the left come to the defense of a pedophile? We are seeing their true colors. We're now seeing at long last exactly who these people are deep at their core. They support the killing of unborn babies, the rationing of health care to the elderly because they consume an unfair portion of health care resources and the drugging and raping of an underage girl by a man more than three times her age.
These people do not represent the core beliefs of any conservative, but do the represent the core beliefs of any self reported democrat? I find it easy to believe that these people are radically left of any "normal" democrat and hard to believe that they represent the majority of the democrats within our country.
Wow
October 6, 2009 - 15:02 ET by BondPlainBond...
this guy needs a wake up call-
October 6, 2009 - 15:08 ET by JIMMY1660as a man, a grandfather, brother, father-this guy needs to meet the business end of a baeball bat.
BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE
I'm not sure what is more
October 6, 2009 - 15:09 ET by rockyracoonI'm not sure what is more offensive now, Polanski's despicable behavior, or the people who defend him and by extension, it.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
More like that false
October 6, 2009 - 15:41 ET by notonmywatchMore like that false kryptonite from the 3rd movie. It doesn't phase them, but then they go evil & start damaging decent society...
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And here I thought it was the over-40 Hollywood perverts...
October 6, 2009 - 15:16 ET by wnaegele...that were the problem, Tommy.
The man has a sinful heart.
October 6, 2009 - 15:41 ET by AtTheWaterCoolerLinked an quoted to your post from Exposing Bias and Deception at Washington Post
The man has a sinful heart.
October 6, 2009 - 15:41 ET by AtTheWaterCoolerLinked an quoted to your post from Exposing Bias and Deception at Washington Post
Excellent Observation...
October 6, 2009 - 15:55 ET by Fuzzlenutter"If you had to pick a a guy out of line-up who was a child molester, wouldn't Tom Shales be your prime suspect?"
That was the very same thing I thought when I first saw his fat, disgusting mug. Oh, and I would also add Micael Moore to that list...
This Shales freak looks
October 6, 2009 - 15:59 ET by George S PattonThis Shales freak looks like a perv, probably has sex with animals and his mother.
Well he DOES look like
October 6, 2009 - 16:45 ET by rockyracoonWell he DOES look like he could fit the profile. Oh wait, it's not PC to profile.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
When is a 13 year old not a
October 6, 2009 - 16:09 ET by SnappyWhen is a 13 year old not a 13 year old?
When she is 45 and the case is still not been resolved.
Absolutley despicable.
I am still waiting however to hear how this was Bush's fault, obviously due to the fact that this crime was commited some time ago the theory will take some time, but it will come.
In other news, Alan Colmes gains 80 lbs since leaving Hannity
October 6, 2009 - 17:03 ET by macummingsMAC
add another twisted definition
October 6, 2009 - 17:26 ET by Marat"There is rape and the there is rape.
There are 13 year olds and then there are 13 year olds from Hollywood."
I would hate to be 13 living in Hollywood with that logic!
I hope they stick Polanski's sorry a$$ in Gen Pop at Quentin or Folsom. He wouldn't be a taxpayer expense for very long!
Marat........I don't
October 7, 2009 - 03:39 ET by ww thumperMarat........I don't know...I think he should get 30 days in the electric chair myself............When you elect a communist for your President... don't be surprised when Communisem breakes out!... WW
I don't get the far-left....
October 6, 2009 - 17:50 ET by Independent_OtakuPedophilia and drug induced rape is A-OK, but water boarding suspected terrorists is evil and immoral?
?_? Can someone care to explain this to me?
"The only cure for stupidity is death" - Raven, Tales of Vesperia
It's all too easy.
October 6, 2009 - 19:02 ET by HockeyKidIt's all too easy. Terrorists agree with them.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Hey Hollywood!
October 6, 2009 - 18:29 ET by docjohn52This bag of filth just declared open season on your 13 year old daughters...
I'll be there soon, and you can't do anything about it!
</sarc>
Send him over here to Nevada, we know exactly what to do with child molesters...
Is this guy for real?
October 6, 2009 - 19:01 ET by Thinking.ManNo I mean it; He looks like some kind of mankin with fake skin and hair.
The number of left wing whack jobs promoting and defening child rape is amazing.
I suspect Tom has a few underage boys in his closet.
A Leftist's Concept
October 6, 2009 - 19:13 ET by DoktorFrankenA Leftist's concept of time as it pertains to the age of a female child.
How enlightening. I guess we're still the knuckle dragging cretins they make us out to be.
This is getting confusing . . .
October 6, 2009 - 20:10 ET by simmonsisme. . . because now the elite state that it wasn't "rape" rape because she wasn't "thirteen" thirteen and what she said wasn't "no" no!! Of course, Whoopi Goldberg didn't build her career on "talent" talent.
by definition
October 6, 2009 - 21:21 ET by cajun2When idiots start spewing their beliefs that sexualize a child, that is the definition of pedophilia. The rest of the garbage is simply fodder for the media, or the thread.
Creapy
October 6, 2009 - 21:28 ET by Free StinkerThis Shales guy looks creapy.
Just sayin'
LOL, Free
October 6, 2009 - 21:31 ET by BlondeI thought that was one of cl's stalkers, "creepy".
Scared me, dude!
I hope he fails, too.
That's why I spelled it
October 6, 2009 - 21:32 ET by Free StinkerThat's why I spelled it differently, to aid in keeping them seperate. ;-)
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
Shales has probably worn
October 6, 2009 - 21:36 ET by RR GOPShales has probably worn out the Dakota Fanning rape scene on his Blue Ray copy.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
What's This Obsesseion Of Yours Over Dakota Fanning?
October 6, 2009 - 23:41 ET by The7SticksYour repeated talk about Dakota Fanning in that one stupid movie she did in which her character is raped tells me levels more about your thinking then it does what society says, am I right, John Hinkley-wannabe?
She made a movie called Hounddog that involved the depiction of her character being raped by an older boy. I never saw it (and have no plans to do so anytime soon because I think it sounds rather disturbing to say the least), but based on what Ms. Fanning said in some reviews I read, she wasn't harmed in the least bit by the filmmakers, but she, her friends and her family were certainly harmed by creeps like you. The only basis you are judging it on were descriptions and extraordinarily biased opinions drummed up by losers and creeps like the lying sack of crap Jabba the Don-of-puke of the Catholic League of Douchebags, the worthless ones at WorldNutDaily, and that disturbed doctor Ted Baehr. I read all of their propaganda, and I would trust the film reviewers over these creeps because they said the film was already bad enough in pacing and story-wise that that alone was warrant enough to avoid it.
I have a 13 yo niece, and I am pretty sure she is no different..
October 6, 2009 - 21:49 ET by R D Helm...than the 13 yo girls in Hollywood, except in perhaps one area:
My niece has an uncle who is a die-hard libertarian, and who defines "justice" as when people get what they deserve.
No, you won't find that written into any laws or law books, yet I feel deep down that many of our founders felt similarly.
If anyone ever even so much as tried to do to her what that sick f*ck (sorry, but sometimes you just have to say it) Roman Polansky did to Samantha Geimer, Uncle Dave would be calling off his brother (as he has far too much to lose) and dialing up the cops, after-the-fact, just so they would know where to find what was left of the low-life bastard.
There is no justification whatsoever for what this pervert did to that young girl all those years ago.
I say bring him here and let him out on the streets of LA. I bet "justice" would find him right quickly.
-Dave
Better than the streets of L.A.
October 6, 2009 - 21:53 ET by BlondeWill be the slam in CA.
I'm sure old Roman will enjoy that. I am looking forward to the day he does, actually.
I hope he fails, too.
J,
October 7, 2009 - 00:07 ET by R D HelmI get your point, but then he is going to be on the taxpayer's dole for the duration.
LOL-Some people just don't need to be here.
-Dave
Just LOOK at the guy (jabba the hut)
October 6, 2009 - 23:08 ET by PharmerThere's goes the Perv-dar
(something like gay-dar, but it identifies pedophiles, instead)
and it's just screaming at me now.............
If Mel Gibson had raped a 13
October 7, 2009 - 01:39 ET by MrSnugglesIf Mel Gibson had raped a 13 year old in her anus 30 years ago, do you think the left in hollywood and across the country would be standing up to defend him?
I am not sure a 13-year-old is really a 13-year-old.
October 7, 2009 - 03:26 ET by Army BratHe then said, "Ribbet", and ate a fly.
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
this is crazy
October 7, 2009 - 11:23 ET by rowdygirlNow I really feel sorry for the criminals... there is already so much effort being put into finding your victims, hunting them down, and then raping and\or torturing them.. this is just too much. To think that they now have to move to California to be able to freely rape minors is just so unfair ! Although the up side would be that if your victim looks older, you can just use that as your defense.. of course it would be the victim's fault that way since looking older and being more mature is always a good reason to rape a child.
Makes as much sense as this "critic" doesn't it?
It's hard to imagine that someone could say these words out loud and think they're ok. Just makes me think he might be a child rapist too. Why else would you ever justify this behavior as being ok?
Makes you wish Dexter would
October 7, 2009 - 11:35 ET by MightyMouthMakes you wish Dexter would change the "code" slightly to include child anal rapers, doesn't it?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Mighty -- I think Dexter did
October 8, 2009 - 10:48 ET by Jack BauerMighty -- I think Dexter did that in the pilot episode with the School Principal boy raper and killer.