Oppose ObamaCare? You're 'Undermining The Country'

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Latest dispatch from the "dissent is patriotic" front: if you oppose Pres. Obama in his health care initiative, you're "undermining the country."

None less than the great Howard Dean said so on this evening's Rachel Maddow show. 

Alison Stewart was filling in for the eponymous host.

HOWARD DEAN: When I was growing up in this country, Republicans and Democrats could actually sit down and have a sane conversation.  You might not agree but you could get stuff done.  This Republican party—this shrinking Republican party—is just determined to undermine President Obama. And unfortunately, you have to undermine the country in order to undermine the president.  I think that's too bad.

Will the MSM eventually get around to reporting the flaming hypocrisy of the dissent-is-patriotic crowd?


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Good- count me a

Good- count me a Patriot.

JAJT

Healthcare Down Payment

 Here's an idea for Barry's budget deficits- take the "Kennedy Family Compound" away from the Kennedy's and turn it into a National Park and charge admission. Take Nancy Pelosi's $25Million winery away and sell US Govt wine and use the proceeds to pay for the illegals healthcare
 

perfect plan, and don't

perfect plan, and don't forget, put Nancy Salt Marsh mice to work!JAJT

Howard

Sooo, Howard, when you were against George W. for the last 8 years, you were undermining the country, right?

Ohhhh, so it's different now, thought so.

Hypocrites!

Howard Dean

Let this dunce Dean keep talking, he's more of a loose cannon than Biden

NEIL KINNOCK = ADREW WILKOW

 nyyankee55,

I agree, I love seeing Dean talk out of his @$$ on MSNBC or CNN. The more he talks, the dumber he sounds, like Biden. But he is starting to plagiarize like Biden. I caught some interview he did somewhere, & he puts his stamp of "authority" to what he said by finishing what he said with"...we are right, they are wrong...". Now the guy who has said that forever on his radio show, Andrew Wlikow, caught this. But for anyone without an XM or Sirius account, you won't know it.

At least when we use someones words as a tagline, we credit the people behind the quote, Dr.Dean. It is called attribution, look into it.

 

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

Patriotism

How can liberals claim it was patriotic to condemn Bush for freeing another country while at the same time supporting Obama who is working to enslave the very country he was ostensibly elected to protect?

Do people not realize the extent that liberal ideaology is being pushed as unbiased news coverage?  Is it really that tough to see?

The only ones undermining

The only ones undermining this country are the O/Soros Crew...and the dem party...hand in hand with the msm.

There will be blow-back on you and your ilk Howard Dean, the likes of which you've never seen...keep it up!

2010...here we come.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

No, we are undermining the advent of National Socialism...

...which, if enacted through the passage of ObamaCare, would mean the end of the America we all know and love.

-Dave

Howie makes more sense when he's screamin'

"When I was growing up in this country, Republicans and Democrats could
actually sit down and have a sane conversation.  You might not agree
but you could get stuff done."

Earth to Howard "The Scream" Dean: Didja ever wonder why all the "stuff" that needs to get "done" seems to be Democrat "stuff" that Republicans have to be 'bipartisan' with and get behind?  Didja ever wonder why it is that compromise between the two parties always means 'GOP concedes ground to Democrats'?

No, I guess you never have--OK, back to your regularly scheduled freak-out:

"And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan.
And then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House--yeeeeeahhhhh!"

Where we're really going

 

And then we're going to Moscow and Beijing, and then to Hell.

Hmmm..undermining a President and a country..?

That sounds familiar.  Where have I seen that before ?

" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him....-Sen. Jim DeMint

I want them to keep on

I want them to keep on talking. The more airheads like Dean, Pelosi, Reid and His Supreme Highness try to "win" the sheeple over, the more traction they lose.

 Like all narcissists, they are utterly clueless to this sea change in our national mood.  

What a tool

I can not imagine anyone wanting this moron for their doctor.

Which is probably why he's

Which is probably why he's in politics now - all his patients either left him or died.

The failure of the Carter

The failure of the Carter years was, in Reagan’s view, the failure of the man at the helm and the policies he had pursued at home and abroad. At no time had Ronald Reagan believed that the American covenant had failed, that America should apologize for itself in the world beyond its shores. There was no narcissism in Reagan. It was stirring that the man who headed into the sunset of his life would bid his country farewell by reminding it that its best days were yet to come.

 

Good Bless Ronald Reagan and our Patriots who are speaking up all over America.   JAJT

Yay! A two-fer

By opposing Obamacare, not only am I an anti-American, unpatriotic, mobster Nazi...

I'm a Catholic condemned to hell for "not being Christ to others" because I don't support legislation that treats the unborn, elderly, and disabled as commodities that can be destroyed when it's cost-effective.

Sweet!

Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

~Next time a "Catholic" tells you that

Ask them what entity ordered the crucifixion of the Son of God.

 

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

Ask them what entity ordered the crucifixion of the Son of God.

The truth is, the only ones going to Hell in America are the blind sheep following the wolf dressed in sheep's clothing! Those same Catholics or Evangelical Leftist have forgotten one rule: "When you point the finger at someone, remember, there are three pointing back at you!" Obama is leading his sheep to Slaughter!

My typical response

My typical response is to ask them to show me where Jesus demanded a QALY analysis before healing someone, or where he withheld treatment because someone was too old or sick to be deemed worthy.

That usually gets them flustered.

The thing is, if these people were really paying attention, they'd see that Obamacare doesn't meet the criteria for health care reform according to Catholic teaching - especially in the areas of respecting life, respecting the consciences of health care workers, and making it fiscally responsible and sustainable.

So I know that I'm in the right here.  I am not going to sacrifice the unborn, the disabled, the elderly on the altar of "social justice" just because people who already cherry-pick Catholic teachings think I'm going to hell.  Puh-leeze.

I think changes need to be made to the system, but I'm far more apt to want those changes to be similar to the ones Whole Foods CEO John Mackey suggested in his Wall Street Journal op-ed from August 12.  Here are just the main points:

• Remove the legal obstacles that slow the creation of high-deductible health insurance plans and health savings accounts (HSAs).

• Equalize the tax laws so that that employer-provided health
insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax
benefits.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors
to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.
 

• Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost.

• Enact Medicare reform.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to
make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of
people who have no insurance and aren’t covered by Medicare, Medicaid
or the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.

Those are more than reasonable, and likely to be highly-effective, suggestions that could garner genuine health care reform.  In fact, I really don't have a quibble with any one of them.

And in case you didn't know, the Obama-loving far left is now engaging in a boycott of Whole Foods - including accusing the CEO of killing 21,000 people a year - because he suggested reforms different from Obamacare.  And here are some of the benefits and corporate policies of Whole Foods:

* Mackey lectures at Universities about the horrors of factory farming


* He says “Right now, Americans have to pretend factory farms don’t
exist. They turn their eyes away, because there’s no alternative,
there’s no choice. Once there is a choice, we will allow ourselves to
be outraged.”


* He makes $1 a year and donates his stock portfolio to charity.


* He set up a $100,00 fund to help his employees with personal problems.


* He’s a vegetarian and his company will not buy from producers that treat their animals unethically.


* He flies commercial, rents the smallest cars, and stays in the
cheapest hotel rooms - not because he’s cheap, but because he has no
need for largesse


* He and his wife participate in yoga


* He gives over $1 million a year to animal welfare groups, education, relief work, and spiritual movements.


* Employees have full say in who they work with - a new employee must receive a 2/3 vote in order to make it past probation.


* Employees also vote on all company-wide initiatives


* There’s a salary book in every store - “no secrets” management
believes everyone should know how much everyone else is making


* Executive salaries are capped at 14 times the lowest workers salary -
If they want more money, everyone else has to get more money first


* Non-executive employees hold 94% of company stock options


* Pay is linked to team performance - profit sharing


* At least 5% of annual profits go to local charities


* Full-timers get 100% of their health care costs paid for - under plans the employees have selected


* “They just have a lot more respect for you as a person here” says an employee

Michelle Malkin also has coverage on the union goons who are behind the boycott.  The thing is: isn't Whole Foods exactly the kind of company lefties always say they want?  A company that's not "greedy" that practices "good corporate citizenship" and treats its employees well?  I believe someone said the minimum pay range for Whole Foods employees is something like $13/hour.  I believe that the reasons for the outrage are twofold:

  1. Lefties are annoyed that people dare contradict their messiah.
  2. Lefties are upset that Whole Foods created such a work environment freely and without government interference (because if it doesn't come from the government, it doesn't count, apparently.  Especially when it comes to charity or corporate responsibility).

So this is a prime example of what everyday Americans are going through for opposing Obamacare as it stands.

But I'm refusing to get flustered.  Rasmussen yesterday had Obama's approval index at an all-time low of -14 (today it's at -11).  Over 80% of Americans are happy with their current health plans.  I'm praying Obamacare is dead in the water.

Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

Really and what Howard Dean

Really and what Howard Dean other than a embarrassment to the country?

 

http://www.angrywhit...
The Angry White Guy Blog

The country will go to hell

The country will go to hell in a handbasket if they don't pass Obamacare???

You have to undermine the country to undermine the President, Howard?

So, we can't support the President but not his policies? 

That's quite a mouthful from the head of the party that for years has "supported the military" but not their mission.

 

 

OBAMA

O - One

B - Big

A - Ass

M - Mistake

A - America

10snooker. LOVE

10snooker.

LOVE IT!

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

10k,

LOL-Damn good thin his name isn't Obmfama.

:-)

-Dave

OBAMA

O - Obnoxious

B - Boasting

A - Assinine

M - Monstrous

A - Alien

And one more, just for fun :)

O - Only

B - Brilliant

A - At

M - Mismanaging

A - America

GA Girl

We have a winner!

FeynmanFan~

Ah, shucks. Thanks.

"And now, I'd like to thank the Academy...er, I mean, the current Administration...because without them, none of this would have been possible. They were -- and continue to be -- my inspiration. Truly, without them, I wouldn't be scared out of my frickin' mind at where America is headed...yes, through their amazing efforts to socialize America, I'll continue to make acroynms to speak out about the miserable policies they are trying to cram down our throats...And, finally -- I'd also like to thank all the other acryonym-making nominees for their creative and outstanding work. I'm humbled to be in their company..."

LOL. Okay, enough of my silliness. ;) 

 

GG

You forgot...

"You love me, you really LOVE me".

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Shoot!

Good ole Sally. I can't believe I didn't steal that line. ^_^

 

The Scary Part is ...

that if people like Dean go any further left that they'll make a complete orbit and somehow end up on the right of us all.  Maybe those "rocket scientists" at MSNBC will be able to track this astronautical feat of political BS...

"Got my shovel, got my pickaxe... let's go mining and let the canaries fall where they may." - Duke (one of the Lego PowerMiners) 

If brains were.....

dynamite, this silly sonovabitch wouldn't have enough to blow his nose.

There must be a sign by the front door of the DNC that reads, "Dipshits wanted, no waiting"

Good article...

...on the power of the presidency...

http://www.cato.org/...

Note to Howard: There is a difference between making your country look bad internationally in a time of war for short term political gain and criticizing a purely domestic policy which has unkown economic effects.

Granted, our policies in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't worked out exactly as planned but I don't see "O" deviating very much from previous policy.

 

 

Well, it looks like Juan

Well, it looks like Juan McLame is heeding this warning!

Rush was speaking about McCain today, yet once again wanting to sit down with the President and Dems to come up with some bipartisan B.S.! Instead of letting the Dems own this crap, he wants to sit down and be bipartisan!

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_082409/content/01125113.member.html

I just called his Prescott office and Tuscon office and expressed my outrage! Sh** for Brains only concern is his love affair with the media!

His DC voice mail box was full, but if any of you have the inclination, PLEASE CALL him and express some outrage at his bipartisan tendancies! We can't let him do this!

Phoenix Office:

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Phoenix, AZ 85016
Main: (602) 952-2410

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  • Hey Sven... I know how

    Hey Sven...

    I know how you feel when it comes to McC and his mouth in the last two days...I heard him also yesterday etc...made a couple comments in posts here and there as well.

    Gosh, I want him gone from Congress.

    Btw...his voting record now is more conservative than it has been in eons...that wouldn't have anything to do with an up coming election now would it?

    He get's reelected, he will be back to being RINO McC, Sheriff of the Senate once again.

    Going to be very interesting how he votes for Cap and Trade, OCare and most of all Amnesty before his election...he?!

    Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

    bt,This guy is a first

    bt,

    This guy is a first class creep! Time and time again he sh**'s all over his party to get the fawning (if only temporary) media coverage and praise!

    Yeah, I know, he served in Vietnam! That has nothing to do with him undermining his country now! (This isn't directed at you by-the-way ;-)) 

    It's like Rush said, "Just sit back and let the Dems own this...and go down in flames!" But NO...now we have to worry about McCain and his lover Lindsey Graham!

    I am soooo pi$$ed right now!

    Howie Wowie

    This is the great thing about Howie, you can always depend on him to go a little too far, to push an idea over the edge, to exaggerate to the point of ridiculousness, etc. The man has no common sense. Keep a camera on him at all times.

    Wasn't Deanie Weenie just

    Wasn't Deanie Weenie just ranting against Obama and his healthcare plan just a couple of weeks ago?

    He must have been wee-weed on by the WH to get him back in line.

    Here's a little helpful

    Here's a little helpful budget hint for free.  Seize George Soros' assets because he helped the Nazi's in WWII. That ought to put a dent in one thing or another.  

    cr

    not for nothing he was only 14yrs. old in 1945, when hitler did himself in.

    I'm really not understanding

    One day Republicans are shrinking in number and becoming irrelevant - the next day they're controlling masses of protestors through money and influence.

     

     

    Who said the Left was

    Who said the Left was logical? Haven't you noticed 20 years of "The only reason some women feel horrible after their abortions is that antichoicers brainwash them!" If we were so good at brainwashing, wouldn't we be able to brainwash them into not aborting in the first place? That'd accomplish a lot more for us than brainwashing them into feeling awful afterward.

    Who cares what Howard Dean thinks?

    Howard Dean is irrelevant.

    I like it when he screams, though.

    How about this?

    I support the President, but not his policies.  In fact, I am so anti-policy that I protest them!

    Hmmmm....hey liberals, how does that shoe fit?

    I hope he fails, too.

     

     

    Blonde - Great Idea!

    That's a great idea:  "I support the President but not his policies"

    It's just the right size for a bumper sticker or T-shirt!

    Nice job.

    Hee hee

    I love it, because it's such a blatent rip-off of the most idiotic leftist phrase ever uttered:

    I support the troops but not the war.

    I'd love to have a bumper sticker with my tag on it (so famously Maha Rushie it doesn't even need attribution), but my beloved little Bird would be keyed in a second.

    I hope he fails, too.

     

     

    Blonde, the more I think about it

    The more I think about that phrase, the more I like it.  It's the perfect response : succinct and irrefutable.

    You should copyright it immediately.

    And buy yourself a "green" car.  No one on the left would key a "green" car... would they?  ;)

    Well, FF

    I just bought myself another vehicle, because it's kind of hard to put "stuff" in the t-bird.  So I bought myself an XTerra, too.  It's white, not green.....so that might be out as well.

    As for the support phrase, consider it my welcome gift to you.  You're a great addition to the NB community.  So wear it in good health, my new friend.

    I hope he fails, too.

     

     

    Thank you, Blonde

    You are too kind.

    Just like the founding fathers were undermining King George!

    We need a lot more undermining of this sort if we are ever going to have a chance at saving the Republic.

    Throw 'da bums out!

    no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!

    www.loyaltoliberty.com

    Stay classy, howard. The

    Stay classy, howard.

    The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

    You Are Undermining This Great Country, Mr, Dean.

    HOWARD DEAN: When I was growing up in this country, Republicans and Democrats could actually sit down and have a sane conversation. You might not agree but you could get stuff done. This Republican party—this shrinking Republican party—is just determined to undermine President Obama. And unfortunately, you have to undermine the country in order to undermine the president. I think that's too bad.

    Mr. Dean, I have a news flash for you. It is you and your party that is all about undermining this great country and do not try to deny it! You and your party have quite literally been shredding the Constitution of the United States of America and any other pertinent documents or laws for quite some time now. Also, have you or anyone else in your party stood up and said that your jobs as elected officials are to serve the people who elected you? No, instead, your collective actions are those of people who seem to think that the rest of us are here to serve you!

    You are WRONG on all accounts. You cannot and should not expect "sane" conversation so long as you persist on walking all over the Constitution and the people of this great country.

    I do not believe you when you say you want "sane" conversation, because "sane" conversation to you is complete and total acquiescence to your wants and desires rather than the upholding of the Constitution of the United States of America and serving the people of this great country.

    If you truly want "sane" conversation, you need to first and foremost not only pledge to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, you need to say that the Democrat-controlled Congress will pass and President Obama will sign the Enumerated Powers Act. The Enumerated Powers Act will require that all current and future legislation shall identify the section of the Constitution that specifically empowers the Federal government to enact that legislation. No legislation shall be passed that does not have specific Constitutional authorization to be enacted by the Federal government.

    Then, upon enactment of the Enumerated Powers Act, Congress will begin a comprehensive review of ALL Federal law to identify the applicable section(s) of the Constitution that empowers the Federal government to enact that law. Any law that is found to not have a provision in the Constitution providing the Federal authorization of that law will be repealed immediately.

    --

    We need to stop calling them "Progressives" when in reality they are big government "Socialists" who no longer value the individual's rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    Soros, Obama and MONEY

    Remember the pic of Soros sitting behind Obama, near the stairway, in Ayers house at Obama's political launch? Soros owns the Brazilian Oil Company. Obama just gave that oil company billions. But he won't allow U.S. oil companies to drill. Get the picture? 

    Flashback to San Fran 2004

    Is he underminding the President/country?

    http://www.youtube.c...