Support nationalized health care! Ain't gonna cost you nuthin. We'll stick rich guys like Dick Cheney with the bill!
That was Ed Schultz's brazen appeal to something-for-nothing class warfare, made on his MSNBC show this evening. Schultz's make-Cheney-pay plea was the subject of his "Op Ed."
View video here.
ED SCHULTZ: Once again, Republicans are lyin'. Doggone it, we catch 'em every time, don't we? This time again it's on health care. They're trying to scare the American people on health care reform. They're saying your taxes are going to be going up. Well that's only half true. You see, the Democrats want a surtax to pay for health care. That would affect 1.2% of the population who earn money in this country.
That's right: 1.2%, the richest Americans, would pay more. Now, by my math, 98.8% of Americans would not have to pay an additional dime. Now, the highest surtax would be 5.4%. That would be paid by people making over $1 million a year. You know, people like Dick Cheney, George Bush, Paris Hilton. Maybe the guys who were playing in the All-Star game last night, they're going to have to pay more, the Hollywood crowd, they've been willing to pay more all along to get health care.
So the question you need to ask at home tonight folks is: do you really care if Dick Cheney and the rest of that crowd has to pay a little bit more so we can have health care in this country? The sum total of this is, personally, I don't believe that the American people care if 1.2% of the American people have to pay more so we can get health care in this country.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.




















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July 15, 2009 - 19:55 ET by Kingfish17All power to the proletariat!
Mr. Ed's just too dumb to realize that he's next.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
But Kingfish, if I kill all
July 15, 2009 - 19:57 ET by Mark FinkelsteinBut Kingfish, if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key ;-)
Got a pool, and a pond.
July 15, 2009 - 20:01 ET by ex buff e-dubGot a pool, and a pond. Pond would be good for you...
When we die, on our
July 15, 2009 - 20:04 ET by Mark FinkelsteinWhen we die, on our deathbed, we will receive free health care. So we got that goin' for us, which is nice.
gunga...gunga ga lunga
July 15, 2009 - 20:35 ET by ex buff e-dubgunga...gunga ga lunga
Here in California, we have
July 15, 2009 - 20:40 ET by ex buff e-dubHere in California, we have authorized medicinal marijuana...a blend of Califonia sensimilla and Kentucky blue grass
We'll overlook......
July 15, 2009 - 20:04 ET by Kingfish17We'll overlook the golfers, just make sure you get the wax build-up removed from these golf shoes,....and buffed with a fine shammy of course. Chop, chop!
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
I hate to remind you,
July 15, 2009 - 20:37 ET by needle“Mr. Ed's just too dumb to realize that he's next.”
I hate to remind you, but it is quite evident now that Rich Liberals do not pay taxes…
- Relying upon the MSM for your information is like relying upon an embezzler to manage your portfolio.
There are several single
July 16, 2009 - 00:56 ET by jdhawkThere are several single payer systems in our country like the dimocrats would like to enact. There is medicare/medicade, the VA, and the Indian Reservation Health Care system. Below find an article about the later. A system so bad that the sad joke at Indian reservations across our country is don't get sick after June. That is because federal funding runs out over the last quarter of our government's fiscal year that ends in October of every year. It is a system of severe rationing where the young and old are given short shrift aside due to a severe lack of resources.
PROMISES, PROMISES: Indian health care's victims
BY MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press Writer Mary Clare Jalonick, Associated Press Writer Mon Jun 15, 8:56 am ET
CROW AGENCY, Mont. – Ta'Shon Rain Little Light, a happy little girl who loved to dance and dress up in traditional American Indian clothes, had stopped eating and walking. She complained constantly to her mother that her stomach hurt.
When Stephanie Little Light took her daughter to the Indian Health Service clinic in this wind-swept and remote corner of Montana, they told her the 5-year-old was depressed.
Ta'Shon's pain rapidly worsened and she visited the clinic about 10 more times over several months before her lung collapsed and she was airlifted to a children's hospital in Denver. There she was diagnosed with terminal cancer, confirming the suspicions of family members.
A few weeks later, a charity sent the whole family to Disney World so Ta'Shon could see Cinderella's Castle, her biggest dream. She never got to see the castle, though. She died in her hotel bed soon after the family arrived in Florida.
"Maybe it would have been treatable," says her great-aunt, Ada White, as she stoically recounts the last few months of Ta'Shon's short life. Stephanie Little Light cries as she recalls how she once forced her daughter to walk when she was in pain because the doctors told her it was all in the little girl's head.
Ta'Shon's story is not unique in the Indian Health Service system, which serves almost 2 million American Indians in 35 states.
On some reservations, the oft-quoted refrain is "don't get sick after June," when the federal dollars run out. It's a sick joke, and a sad one, because it's sometimes true, especially on the poorest reservations where residents cannot afford health insurance. Officials say they have about half of what they need to operate, and patients know they must be dying or about to lose a limb to get serious care.
Wealthier tribes can supplement the federal health service budget with their own money. But poorer tribes, often those on the most remote reservations, far away from city hospitals, are stuck with grossly substandard care. The agency itself describes a "rationed health care system."
The sad fact is an old fact, too.
The U.S. has an obligation, based on a 1787 agreement between tribes and the government, to provide American Indians with free health care on reservations. But that promise has not been kept. About one-third more is spent per capita on health care for felons in federal prison, according to 2005 data from the health service.
In Washington, a few lawmakers have tried to bring attention to the broken system as Congress attempts to improve health care for millions of other Americans. But tightening budgets and the relatively small size of the American Indian population have worked against them.
"It is heartbreaking to imagine that our leaders in Washington do not care, so I must believe that they do not know," Joe Garcia, president of the National Congress of American Indians, said in his annual state of Indian nations' address in February.
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When it comes to health and disease in Indian country, the statistics are staggering.
American Indians have an infant death rate that is 40 percent higher than the rate for whites. They are twice as likely to die from diabetes, 60 percent more likely to have a stroke, 30 percent more likely to have high blood pressure and 20 percent more likely to have heart disease.
American Indians have disproportionately high death rates from unintentional injuries and suicide, and a high prevalence of risk factors for obesity, substance abuse, sudden infant death syndrome, teenage pregnancy, liver disease and hepatitis.
While campaigning on Indian reservations, presidential candidate Barack Obama cited this statistic: After Haiti, men on the impoverished Pine Ridge and Rosebud Reservations in South Dakota have the lowest life expectancy in the Western Hemisphere.
Those on reservations qualify for Medicare and Medicaid coverage. But a report by the Government Accountability Office last year found that many American Indians have not applied for those programs because of lack of access to the sign-up process; they often live far away or lack computers. The report said that some do not sign up because they believe the government already has a duty to provide them with health care.
The office of minority health at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the Indian Health Service, notes on its Web site that American Indians "frequently contend with issues that prevent them from receiving quality medical care. These issues include cultural barriers, geographic isolation, inadequate sewage disposal and low income."
Indeed, Indian health clinics often are ill-equipped to deal with such high rates of disease, and poor clinics do not have enough money to focus on preventive care. The main problem is a lack of federal money. American Indian programs are not a priority for Congress, which provided the health service with $3.6 billion this budget year.
Officials at the health service say they can't legally comment on specific cases such as Ta'Shon's. But they say they are doing the best they can with the money they have — about 54 cents on the dollar they need.
One of the main problems is that many clinics must "buy" health care from larger medical facilities outside the health service because the clinics are not equipped to handle more serious medical conditions. The money that Congress provides for those contract health care services is rarely sufficient, forcing many clinics to make "life or limb" decisions that leave lower-priority patients out in the cold.
"The picture is much bigger than what the Indian Health Service can do," says Doni Wilder, an official at the agency's headquarters in Rockville, Md., and the former director of the agency's Northwestern region. "Doctors every day in our organization are making decisions about people not getting cataracts removed, gall bladders fixed."
On the Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota, Indian Health Service staff say they are trying to improve conditions. They point out recent improvements to their clinic, including a new ambulance bay. But in interviews on the reservation, residents were eager to share stories about substandard care.
Rhonda Sandland says she couldn't get help for her advanced frostbite until she threatened to kill herself because of the pain — several months after her first appointment. She says she was exposed to temperatures at more than 50 below, and her hands turned purple. She eventually couldn't dress herself, she says, and she visited the clinic over and over again, sometimes in tears.
"They still wouldn't help with the pain so I just told them that I had a plan," she said. "I was going to sleep in my car in the garage."
She says the clinic then decided to remove five of her fingers, but a visiting doctor from Bismarck, N.D., intervened, giving her drugs instead. She says she eventually lost the tops of her fingers and the top layer of skin.
The same clinic failed to diagnose Victor Brave Thunder with congestive heart failure, giving him Tylenol and cough syrup when he told a doctor he was uncomfortable and had not slept for several days. He eventually went to a hospital in Bismarck, which immediately admitted him. But he had permanent damage to his heart, which he attributed to delays in treatment. Brave Thunder, 54, died in April while waiting for a heart transplant.
"You can talk to anyone on the reservation and they all have a story," says Tracey Castaway, whose sister, Marcella Buckley, said she was in $40,000 of debt because of treatment for stomach cancer.
Buckley says she visited the clinic for four years with stomach pains and was given a variety of diagnoses, including the possibility of a tapeworm and stress-related stomachaches. She was eventually told she had Stage 4 cancer that had spread throughout her body.
Ron His Horse is Thunder, chairman of the Standing Rock tribe, says his remote reservation on the border between North Dakota and South Dakota can't attract or maintain doctors who know what they are doing. Instead, he says, "We get old doctors that no one else wants or new doctors who need to be trained."
His Horse is Thunder often travels to Washington to lobby for more money and attention, but he acknowledges that improvements are tough to come by.
"We are not one congruent voting bloc in any one state or area," he said. "So we don't have the political clout."
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On another reservation 200 miles north of Standing Rock, Ardel Baker, a member of North Dakota's Three Affiliated Tribes, knows all too well the truth behind the joke about money running out.
Baker went to her local clinic with severe chest pains and was sent by ambulance to a hospital more than an hour away. It wasn't until she got there that she noticed she had a note attached to her, written on U.S. Department of Health and Human Services letterhead.
"Understand that Priority 1 care cannot be paid for at this time due to funding issues," the letter read. "A formal denial letter has been issued."
She lived, but she says she later received a bill for more than $5,000.
"That really epitomizes the conflict that we have," says Robert McSwain, deputy director of the Indian Health Service. "We have to move the patient out, it's an emergency. We need to get them care."
It was too late for Harriet Archambault, according to the chairman of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, Democratic Sen. Byron Dorgan of North Dakota, who has told her story more than once in the Senate.
Dorgan says Archambault died in 2007 after her medicine for hypertension ran out and she couldn't get an appointment to refill it at the nearest clinic, 18 miles away. She drove to the clinic five times and failed to get an appointment before she died.
Dorgan's swath of the country is the hardest hit in terms of Indian health care. Many reservations there are poor, isolated, devoid of economic development opportunities and subject to long, harsh winters — making it harder for the health service to recruit doctors to practice there.
While the agency overall has an 18 percent vacancy rate for doctors, that rate jumps to 38 percent for the region that includes the Dakotas. That region also has a 29 percent vacancy rate for dentists, and officials and patients report there is almost no preventive dental care. Routine procedures such as root canals are rarely seen here. If there's a problem with a tooth, it is simply pulled.
Dorgan has led efforts in Congress to bring attention to the issue. After many years of talking to frustrated patients at home in North Dakota, he says he believes the problems are systemic within the embattled agency: incompetent staffers are transferred instead of fired; there are few staff to handle complaints; and, in some cases, he says, there is a culture of intimidation within field offices charged with overseeing individual clinics.
The senator has also probed waste at the agency.
A 2008 GAO report, along with a follow-up report this year, accused the Indian Health Service of losing almost $20 million in equipment, including vehicles, X-ray and ultrasound equipment and numerous laptops. The agency says some of the items were later found.
Dorgan persuaded Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to consider an American Indian health improvement bill last year, and the bill passed in the Senate. It would have directed Congress to provide about $35 billion for health programs over the next 10 years, including better access to health care services, screening and mental health programs. A similar bill died in the House, though, after it became entangled in an abortion dispute.
The growing political clout of some remote reservations may bring some attention to health care woes. Last year's Democratic presidential primary played out in part in the Dakotas and Montana, where both Obama and Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton became the first presidential candidates to aggressively campaign on American Indian reservations there. Both politicians promised better health care.
Obama's budget for 2010 includes an increase of $454 million, or about 13 percent, over this year. Also, the stimulus bill he signed this year provided for construction and improvements to clinics.
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Back in Montana, Ta'Shon's parents are doing what they can to bring awareness to the issue. They have prepared a slideshow with pictures of her brief life; she is seen dressed up in traditional regalia she wore for dance competitions with a bright smile on her face. Family members approached Dorgan at a Senate field hearing on American Indian health care after her death in 2006, hoping to get the little girl's story out.
"She was a gift, so bright and comforting," says Ada White of her niece, whom she calls her granddaughter according to Crow tradition. "I figure she was brought here for a reason."
Nearby, the clinic on the Crow reservation seems mostly empty, aside from the crowded waiting room. The hospital is down several doctors, a shortage that management attributes recruitment difficulties and the remote location.
Diane Wetsit, a clinical coordinator, said she finds it difficult to think about the congressional bailout for Wall Street.
"I have a hard time with that when I walk down the hallway and see what happens here," she says.
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Pretty sad JD
July 16, 2009 - 08:40 ET by general companyAlso typical for libs to keep this quiet, Thanks for the info.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
In the throes of
July 15, 2009 - 19:59 ET by 10ksnookerIn the throes of desparation. Symptoms are easy to spot. Check drivel.
Poor Ed... Doggone
July 15, 2009 - 20:02 ET by bigtimerPoor Ed...
Doggone it...he's WRONG again.
We do care!
What we don't care about is you, your blathering tripe, your socialism, making sure to inflict Cheney and Bush at the top of your list...your adolescent propaganda is obvious...plus he managed to leave so much out of all of this boondoggle if it passes, it will kill this country in a lot of ways...he may or may not realize that, he's such a simpleton to begin with, but his agenda is obvious.
Be glad when he disappears.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Who the HELL is Ed Shultz?
July 15, 2009 - 20:14 ET by MightyMouth"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
...and according to his
July 15, 2009 - 20:17 ET by bigtimer...and according to his ratings...who the hell cares?!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Oh I see BT!
July 15, 2009 - 20:23 ET by MightyMouthIt's the Mr Ed show..."a horses' ass of course of course"
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
No rating no income, eddy will never make as much as Joe plumber
July 15, 2009 - 20:24 ET by upcountrywaterBush first pitch 0bama first pitch
Just remember 5.4% TAX on a million is $54,000 BUCKS
I can get most medical issues fixed for 54K each and every year..
Reagan VS Liberalism
The Good News
July 15, 2009 - 20:27 ET by evilcontractorI think the only people in the country who even have a clue what the idiot said are the people reading this blog. Thank God for him and the other all star cast of stupid liberal advocates at MSNBC. They will keep FOX on top of the ratings for years to come.
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Sir Winston Churchill
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omfg, newsweek just published a screed
July 15, 2009 - 20:26 ET by tonemeisteron you'll never guess....on how the rich need to stay,well...RICH.the wife noticed a similar phenom when she visited the former soviet union in 1990. no one asked when they saw a successful person "how can i be like them" instead they said "how can i bring them down to my level". the real question seems to be is obama naive and stupid or clever and intelligent. or just doesn't care . an answer to the above question will be an insight into where were going as a nation. and, more importantly , what to do about it.
Obama's a tool...
July 15, 2009 - 20:34 ET by MightyMouth...the smart people are the Goldman Sacks people behind him gaming the system. GS guys let the the two biggest GS competitors fail and bailed out the future winners. Wall Street = Obama Admin. You watch, no matter what happens, Obama will be a megamillionare (but still a tool) in ten years!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You mean like the Clintons?
July 15, 2009 - 20:39 ET by needle- Relying upon the MSM for your information is like relying upon an embezzler to manage your portfolio.
Good idea Ed
July 15, 2009 - 20:30 ET by jdlybrandWhile we're at it, why don't your fat-ass give up those 'Biggie-Fries' to the local homeless shelter?
Schmuck!
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
The disturbing thing about
July 15, 2009 - 20:38 ET by msh1973The disturbing thing about what he says is that he is not alone...our Government thinks the same thing! We are in trouble.
There is only ...
July 15, 2009 - 20:42 ET by SentryDanThere is only one way I might even consider changing my ideas about "the one's" healthcare proposal. First, all freakin' rich liberals, like Kennedy, Kerry, Obama, Pelosi, Boxer, etc., would have to be first in line to pay their 5.4+% surtax and second, every freakin' politicial in the federal government upto and including "the one" would have to be subject to the same healthcare plan as the rest of us peons. There could be no special healthcare programs for any of these slugs.
And you could be the farm that my proposal would never happen. So, I guess I won't even be considering changing my ideas about Obama unhealthcare program.
Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.
For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.
I noticed that big dumb Ed
July 15, 2009 - 20:47 ET by general companyYou know, people like Dick Cheney, George Bush, Paris Hilton. Maybe the guys who were playing in the All-Star game last night, they're going to have to pay more, the Hollywood crowd,
Volunteered everyone but himself, geez this guy is such an idiot. I cant imagin even have a short conversation with anyone in his audiance. Seriously, I simply walk away from nutcases like this when they cross my path, might be mid-sentence I dont care.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Oh, you mean the same Dick
July 15, 2009 - 20:47 ET by fitzfongOh, you mean the same Dick Cheney who gave almost all of his income during the White House years to charity? And it's funny how ignorant "personalities" like Ed Schultz mock the likes of Paris Hilton and Major League Baseball players. They earn the money they make because they produce something that addresses consumer demand. Let's see what kind of healthcare the masses will get if "that crowd" decides not to participate in this economy anymore. What value does that fat buffoon Ed Schultz produce? Answer: Nothing. He's just another bloated liability on Jeff Immelt's payroll.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
fitz I love Ann Coulter's
July 15, 2009 - 21:02 ET by Radical1979fitz I love Ann Coulter's book where she compares the amount of charitable income given by Republicans and Democrats. As an amount and a percentage the chosen one gave very little, as was true of most dems. The Repulicans (no suprise) gave a great deal more.
From what I have been
July 15, 2009 - 21:06 ET by SnappyFrom what I have been seeing its not just the rich....... that "up to 5.4%" millionaire tax is just one component. What about the mandatory health care clause? What about the hole at 300% above poverty level and the up to 2.4% penalty tax for those not wanting insurance? What about the possibility of having current benifits paid for by your company being added into your adjusted gross?
Sounds like a lot more people than Cheney are going to be paying for this mess.....and it sounds like its people making less than $250000 a year!
Ok 5.4% on a million
July 15, 2009 - 21:17 ET by MightyMouthagainst a small business pretty much means that is one $54,000 job lost in the private sector and as is our gooberment is accustomed to, flushed down the toilet. But because dumbass "Ed" makes much more than that for spewing his crap, he dosen't care about the trailer trash making that 54k. What a piece of sh*t this guy is!!!!!!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Give em' what they already have?
July 15, 2009 - 21:46 ET by acumenI don't believe that the American people care if 1.2% of the American people have to pay more so we can get health care in this country.
Er....can somebody at MSLSD bring Schmultz up to speed; Americans already have health care in this country.
...and if the govt. gets
July 15, 2009 - 21:52 ET by bigtimer...and if the govt. gets their claws in this we all will pay for this in more ways than one...for generations to come...not just our lifetimes...whatever they may be.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Success ???
July 15, 2009 - 22:03 ET by NonanonDemocrats/ liberals/ progressives/ socialists/ whatever... have created some of the most selfish people who have ever lived. They demand other people take care of them and are outraged when others refuse to be taken advantage of. Are they proud of their accomplishment? Sure seem to be.
DUDE
July 15, 2009 - 22:11 ET by Joe CamelPuff, puff, pass..dude, pass it..don't bogart that joint...Freaking crack heads running the country and media today...
SHOUT IT OUT!!
July 15, 2009 - 22:52 ET by Texndochttp://www.ibdeditor...
So much for "opting out" even if you CAN afford it.
The Doctor Tax
July 15, 2009 - 23:39 ET by sic721Some interesting stats from the Bureau of Labor Statistics via HotAir on who will be paying for this "surtax"
LINK
"The human race divides itself politically into those who want to be controlled, and those who have no such desire."-Robert A. Heinlein
All of the wealthy people
July 16, 2009 - 01:00 ET by RR GOPAll of the wealthy people around the world could drop dead tomorrow and I wouldn't care. Now, if one of those wealthy persons who drops dead is a famous pop singer and an "icon" to African-Americans, that would be a tragedy of course.
I wonder if these Marxists like Schlitz have a ceiling that one can make in the private sector...a million? Hundred thousand? What is it? I think a lot of it comes down to the stockholders. If they think they're making enough on their investments they have no problem in seeing these guys get fantastically huge bonuses that could have gone back into the company. But maybe even tens of millions matter little to a multi-billion dollar enterprise and spread out over tens of thousands of stocks?
No, I don't like the wealthy, either, but for the most part I believe that they (rather like certain fungi) are useful to Mankind in their own way by accruing capital, investing, financing scientific research, providing jobs, etc. But that argument's starting to wear thin as they are being driven to send jobs and their dollars overseas.
So in a way I agree somewhat. But these people aren't going to be able to finance national health care, and it's going to cost more than what they're saying (and it's just going to plain suck), and they have other taxes in mind including cap and trade and junk we haven't even dreamed of yet.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
How much is Ed making ?
July 16, 2009 - 07:50 ET by Redrowan2000Since Ed is sincerely looking out for the masses here, I would like to know what that fool makes per year . I would also like to know what the foool who hired him makes per year. gee I bet he's pulling down more than Ed, and it must make him feel good that Ed wants to reach into his pocket to help Ed and the rest of us out.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
Well, Ed (whose fan base
July 16, 2009 - 08:45 ET by Roger the ShrubberWell, Ed (whose fan base despises Palin for her silly Midwestern talkspeak yet Eddie does the same at times) works for one of the lowest-rated cable talk shows out there, and is on lefty radio.
Based on those facts, I would think he makes somewhere around $10/hour.
HEY GANG! IT'S THE UAW SHOW!
July 16, 2009 - 08:03 ET by SgthulkaIf anyone has ever been in Solidarity House in Detroit, home of the UAW (as I have), you'd see something identical to the Ed show playing on the lobby TVs. "Sacrificed", "Honor", "Quality", blah blah blah.
I hope this show never leaves the air. It is an insight into the union mind.
What percentage of the
July 16, 2009 - 08:27 ET by pcantidoteWhat percentage of the population does that 1.2% employ? That is the real question you should be asking, Eddie boy. Those are the people who will get pinched, not the rich. I could deal with these people if socialism had not already been proven a flawed system time and time again. It is infuriating.
Enforce Term Limits if They Won't: Vote Against ALL Incumbents in 2010.
Great points on Cheney!
July 16, 2009 - 08:42 ET by Roger the ShrubberGreat points on Cheney! He'll have to hit up the folks at the Bohemian Grove for more cash. Or was it the Bilderbergs? Damn, all this shadowy-sneaky conspiracy stuff gets this poor shrubber all confused.
How will Karl Rove's Weather Machine be able to operate after a 5.4% budget cut?
*Gasp!*
If the
July 16, 2009 - 09:03 ET by jessieHIf the idiots in washington ( you know who you are) had not given all of our money to the people who caused the problems, WE could have afforded a healthcare bill. Why should I trust anyone in office? Why should I trust PMSNBC? I don't & won't. Tax the rich till they leave the country. Washinton DC idiots
Schultz
July 16, 2009 - 09:04 ET by grumpyoldbHe knows Nothing... NOOTHING... (sorry about the Hogan's Heroes reference)... But it is kind of fitting. After all the Nazis had all kinds of show trials for people that disagreed with them. Until they got all the power they needed and could just throw them into camps... And unfortunately YES, unless something is done (IMPEACH OBAMA AND HIS ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION and jail them for crimes against the Constitution and the American People), I can see our country going down that path... Except we're nice Nazis... We'll just call them re-education camps like Stalin did....
The Cheney's are already extremely generous
July 16, 2009 - 09:22 ET by KylerkMark,
You forgot to point out the fact that the Cheney’s have been quite generous with their earnings, and in fact – gave over 75% of their gross adjusted earnings to charity in 2005 (about $7 million!). I imagine this would give them quite a tax break already and will probably make them immune from the 5.4% Obamacare surtax.
Perhaps Ed should have mentioned the effects of the tax on some wealthy people who are not so generous – like Al Gore and Joe Biden, whose yearly charitable contributions are normally well under $500.
Those last two guys are Democrats...
July 16, 2009 - 14:03 ET by needle...who knows how they report their income and pay their taxes anyways.
- Relying upon the MSM for your information is like relying upon an embezzler to manage your portfolio.