These are the same people that were saying we "rushed to war."

It's the "dammit, do something even if it's wrong" syndrome. Analize that solely from a "production" standpoint and what you have is, well, General Motors/Ford/Chrysler. How's that been working out?

It never ceases to amaze me the lack of logic that permeates the Left. 

I believe the need to rush out a bill is for two reasons:

1. for Obama to be able to take political credit for a recovery. Job loss is a lagging indicator of an economic cycle and without government interference we would probably be looking at the beginning of a recovery in the 2nd or 3rd quarter this year.  Therefore the need for speed.

2. this is a unique opportunity (as it was for FDR) to use the opportunity for massive government spending to buy votes for elections which is what this spending is doing.

This is their economic genius?

ROBERT REICH: As FDR said, you've got to do something. You try it. If it doesn't work, you try something else.

We are in soooo much trouble with these clowns in charge.

It's always fun to see George Will, surrounded by mental mediocrity, surrender and rest his head upon his fist. He withstands the boredom of stupidity, and shows his exasperation.

How do we know it wouldn't have been worse? That sounds like an expression of faith in having prevented what wasn't, but they have no idea where the money went. They spent, got nothing (that they know of) in return, and called it a success. Let me set a contrast. The anti-terrorism efforts prevented attacks, but the efforts were targeted, and paid measurable results. KSM gave up actionable information that prevented documented attacks in preparation.

But even worse, here with the stimulus - the money is going to places where we know it won't produce jobs. This isn't blind spending in the hope that it sticks. (That's what I said myself a couple days ago; my mind was changed by the following fact.) The money is being sent to places where it is well known that it won't produce jobs, and won't be spent until a couple years.

In other words, unlike what I said myself a few days ago, it's becoming clear that the problem isn't the uncertainty of the plan; it's the certainty. We already know it won't stimulate.

the Scarecrow in this OZ SOBama is creating. She's perfect and if she has a voice could sing "If I only had a BRAIN"!

She and the rest are all jokes 

Yea we don't know what's gonna happen, so lets get it done quick so more, and not less time, can elapse between now and 2010, so Americans have more time to forget about how stupid it was and how Democrats were so on-board.

Someone said it earlier, these are the same people who cry that we "rushed to war."  Rushing to war was a problem, yet rushing to spend $1 trillion, taking on massive debt, and creating an environment for massive inflation in about two years....no problem, get er done!

.. why won't your cowardly friends pass the bill without GOP support? They don't them. Where's their guts?

It's pretty obvious that democRAT KNOW that this bill will not 'stimulate' the economy. The goal here is fund the socialist spending. Now, if they can just get a few Republicans to sign on, they take away the 'failure of the stimulus' as an issue in 2010.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Bolton/KEYES 2012 

 "CLAIRE SHIPMAN: Don't you think that, I mean as George [Will] said, given that nobody knows the outcome, it seems as though the most important thing is speed here."

Bogus argument. We DO know the outcome: the stimulus will do nothing. Much of it doesn't even go into effect for 2 years. So much for speed. We also know something else: the economy will come back without this crap sandwich, just like it always has, time and time again.

"GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Even the critics of the first bail-out say that
the alternative very well could have been worse because we could have
had an absolute collapse of the market."

But, whether you agreed with that bail out or not, there is a fundamental difference between that and what's debated now. The bail out was not a stimulus, it was an injection of liquidity to keep the global financial market from collapsing, and, most importantly, it was a loan. Most of that money should get paid back, especially since many of those institutions didn't want the money in the first place. None of that is true with this trillion dollar non-stimulus package.

This non-stimulus bill is nothing more than a spending spree for the democrats, and it will do nothing to stimulate the economy. It never has, and it never will. What they are doing ought to be criminal.

 Oh, and there's something to keep in mind here. This trillion dollar increase doesn't even include all the other things Odumbo wants to do. "Free" health care will be coming soon. That will probably be another $300 billion.....every year.

ROBERT REICH: As FDR said, you've got to do something. You try it. If it doesn't work, you try something else.

Um, you can't really return $1 trillion like you can a TV that you don't like. How about you give your entire paycheck to the government and see if that works?

The government doesn't have to do anything except lower taxes. Whenever it does do something, it's almost guaranteed to mess it up. The government did nothing when gas prices were over $4/gal., but they came down. Thankfully, they didn't do anything or I suspect gas would still be sky-high.

Doesn't the "it doesn't matter, we're playing the game" sound very familiar to all those who dismiss keeping score in children's games?

It starts with the young and now you get Shipman et al.

OK, I'm game (pun intended) -- a TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT is really not bad if we all agree that we participated. Give me my medal and my trophy and I'll sleep the sleep of a victor.

I saw Shipman this morning....flying solo as George said in the intro.

She has not improved her brain-power one iota since I last heard her inane blather.

A trillion here, a trillion there...no biggie.

Rarely do you hear anyone mention this is the tax-payers $$$.

I swear, sometimes I think Contessa Brewer and Claire must be related.

CLAIRE SHIPMAN: Don't you think that, I mean as George [Will] said, given that nobody knows the outcome, it seems as though the most important thing is speed here

So, are we to understand that when Claire Shipman signed her contract at ABC, she didn't take the time to read the whole thing before she signed her name?  Did she give the contract to her agent/lawyers/accountants to review first? How about her apartment/house contract? Does she ever read her bank/credit card statements? Haste Makes Waste!

because its all a big CON!  Get em before they know what him 'em;  The pickpocketing of America.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.  -Edmund Burke