Maddow: Republicans Crusading 'Against Very Idea of Americans Making Good Wages'

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Though there's not a ruble's worth of difference between their politics, I normally find Rachel Maddow a kinder, gentler, smarter version of Keith Olbermann.  Not tonight.  Granted, the Countdown host was on hiatus.  But even if Olby had been around, he would have been hard-pressed to outdo Maddow for sheer silliness.

The preposterous proposition Rachel propounded?  Republicans just don't want Americans to make good wages. That's how Maddow in part explained the decision of Senate Republicans to oppose the Big Three bailout.

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RACHEL MADDOW: Hell, high water? Feh! Last night, with both hell and high water all around, Senate Republicans killed $14 billion in emergency loans to save GM, Ford and Chrysler. Why? Because they've apparently looked back at the Great Depression and decided Hoover is their role model.  Of course the government shouldn't spend money to shore up its economy and save jobs in a downturn! That might make economic sense. Couldn't do that!

The Senate Republicans are counting on our economic and historic ignorance to win short-term political points for refusing to spend government money on something that it hurts to spend money on.  Nobody wants to bail anybody out. But sometimes, you have to. And frankly they are seizing the ideological opportunity to crusade against the unions, and against the very idea of Americans making good wages at their jobs.

Just how does Maddow imagine Republicans figure to get themselves elected?  With only the votes of those high-hatted Monopoly millionaires?

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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Her speech reminds me of

Her speech reminds me of the speech given by the guy from Delta house in the movie Animal House where he ended up saying their suspension was an outright war on America..

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

Kg, this line? Otter: But

Kg,

this line?

Otter: But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!  

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

  Or in the case of

 

 Or in the case of Maddow's wishful thinking:

Otter: "Mine's bigger." "My cucumber its bigger"

 

Yes!

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

Rachel Madouch

I can't decide if she doesn't know she's ignorant but she's confident and knows she sounds intelligent to some people (but she doesn't know they're idiots).......or if she really knows the right answers but wants to fool the idiots......I'm guessing it's the former.  She can't get anything right.  She says it's prepostorous that union auto-workers make $70/hour.......but she clearly doesn't know that they average out (old hires and newer hires) $35/hr + bfts worth $15/hr, + legacy costs for retirees of $15/hr = $70.  She just doesn't know the whole equation and its logic.  And she jumps to dozens of ridiculous conclusions after her first, her major error. What a dooooofus.

"I can't decide if she

"I can't decide if she doesn't know she's ignorant..."

She's a well paid left wing hack. Simple as that. She spouts whatever they tell her to spout.

 

Evening cel...One thing

Evening cel...

One thing about her though... I have been watching her since she first started on CNN without make-up, wearing men's shirts ect, a whole different person they may make her on the outside now, but she has been spouting all of these views with gusto for years...bigger pay or not.

One thing about it, Olbie (who I call her twin) has groomed and guided her well for her part on msnbc..she knows what she is doing financially...that is for sure.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I honestly don't think

I honestly don't think "they" are telling her what to say. I think she really is ignorant. Whether it is willful ignorance is the question.

After having a very many economic discussions with a wide range of people (right- and left-wing), it is clear to me that a great many people base their economic views on incorrect assumptions (most of which were introduced in public schools/universities). People don't understand supply and demand, profit margins, free trade, cost-benefit analysis, etc. They believe whatever their teacher/professor told them and never think about it.

So she probably really doesn't know she's ignorant. It's too bad that she gets paid generously to be as ignorant as she is and given the platform to spread her lack of knowledge to the sheeple. She has demonstrated that it doesn't take a high school education to make 6-7 figures annually.  

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon," 1942

Should it be a surprise

Should it be a surprise that MSDNC hired another economic illiterate to host her own show?  No.  After all MSDNC is to NBC what UAW is to the Big 3...a massive financial liability.  The scary part is how eager she is to parade her colossal ignorance. 

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

fitzfong.blogspot.com

Democrats must release Detroit hostages to get ransom

What Michigan's governor is actually doing is to demand billions in ransom; therefore, she should release her hostages in an exchange!

Detroit suffers from the Stockholm Syndrome, having been under the near-authoritarian control of Democrats so long, people in Michigan identify with, and even defend, their captors, the sociopathic Democrats, who have ruined our industrial base with deliberate and malicous intent.

For more than a century, the South was ruled by Democrats almost exclusively and deliberately. When finally freed of this post-Civil War tyranny, the South began to flourish. Detroit would, too, if the Democrats lost their illegal stranglehold on the city and state governments.

Leopards changing their spots

All of a sudden there's a lot of fiberals who have found religion on corporate welfare. Isn't it amazing that they have this new found love of trickle down economics?

oh.. my... god

what propogandist crap!

14 billion dollars will not SAVE these companies.  GM alone has lost 4.2 billion this quarter.  THREE MONTHS!  Its bleeding money!  If this was a single car that just got in a wreck it would have been towed away and the insurance would label it 'totaled' because its worth + repairs is less than what it would cost to replace it.

Hoover? Ms. Maddow go back and review your history.  And I don't mean wikipedia.  mmkay?

ugh.  this woman makes my blood pressure spike.

"part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of [government enforced] responsibility" - B. Obama

There's Maddow's motive

MSNBC apparently what to shame Republicans into voting for bailouts since GE, MSNBC's parent company, is likely to be in Washington soon begging for its own rescue package. If GE fails, who would employ Maddow, Olbermann, and Matthews (I don't think the people of Penns. would employ Chris)?

Mean Gene Dr. Love says

Mean Gene Dr. Love says that the Democrats are crusading against the poor by artificially raising wages which has the effect of driving up prices on everything. An additional result is the purchasing power of the dollar falls further than any perceived increase in wages, so the poor get poorer (and so do the rich...which interestingly enough is one of the goals of the Socialists that call themselves Democrats*). If the Democrats would put even the slightest faith in the free market and let the market work it's magic the economy would be much more stable and there would be far fewer poor people.

*Just so we're clear...yes, I am saying all Democrats are Socialists these days.

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon," 1942

Maddow is so economically illiterate it is not even funny

Does MSNBC only hire economically illiterate socialists? Hoover was an interventionalist - higher tariffs, expansion of credit by the Federal Reserve, the Home Loan Bank system, Agricultural Credit Banks, the RFC which gave money to shore up failing banks, states and argriculture, attempted price fixing, banned short sellers and expaned public works programs - all of which did nothing but make the problem worse.

Hoover literally tried to artificially keep wages high and advocated work sharing, which did nothing but increase unemployment. Hoover bragged that wage rates were the highest real wages in the world while he had the highest unemployment rate in American history. LMAO!

It is hilarious how economically clueless Maddow is.

America's Great Depression (PDF) (368 pgs) (Murray Rothbard, Ph.D. Professor Emeritus of Economics, 2000)

Big Three Bailout - Give Me a Break (Video) (5min) (John Stossel, 20/20)

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

It is hilarious how

It is hilarious how economically clueless Maddow is.

Not to mention how historically clueless she is...

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

fitzfong.blogspot.com

She should be required to

She should be required to sit down and watch one of her taped shows so she can see what a buffoon she really is.

"Forget change, I want improvement!"

I saw her idiocy firsthand.

I saw a clip of interest, and it was linked on MSNBC and it was regarding this past election. So, I clicked on it wanting to see what the McCain/Palin team was up to.

Then it clips to her, she starts spouting off her commentary and I wait for about a minute. It was annoying because it wasn't really commentary, just snarking. So, I forwarded it a bit. At around 3:22, she was still talking! I backtracked a bit just in case if I missed some footage. Nope. 

I stopped fast fowarding at 7:22, because it was just HER. Blabbing. 

“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill

We shouldn't be dabbling in

We shouldn't be dabbling in any company's business. Businesses sink or swim depending on how they are being run. People are worth what a company can afford to pay them and still make a profit. If they're paying workers three times what they're worth because of union arm twisting, then they need to be history. Our government shouldn't take our money and give it to union mobsters.

 Who needs Hollywood with

 Who needs Hollywood with clowns like Madcow around? Isn't it democrats who believe in windfall profits and extra taxes/sharing the wealth of those who make decent wages, and who also believe in policies that make it nearly impossible for some businesses to stay in business, let alone pay more? 

Which is the more decent wage, Madcow, $20 an hour in a job that exists, or $40 an hour in a job you used to have but lost because unsustainable labor costs put them out of business?

Republicans don't care how much someone gets paid....that's a Democrat thing. Pay your people a million dollars a year if you want, just make damn sure you don't expect the American people to pay it for you. 

"Libs never let you down. You don't have to talk to one very long before the stupid comes out."

So, now the liberals ...

So, now the liberals are blaming the rejection of the bailout on the republicans. Who would have thought?

So, let me get this all straight; 1) global warming is the republicans fault, 2) the downturn in the housing market is the republicans fault, 3) the banking problems is the republicans fault, 4) the bad decisions made by the big 3 auto manufacturers is the republicans fault, 5) the world hates the United States is the republicans fault, etc, etc. Seems like to the liberals that everything that goes wrong is the republicans fault. Which party has controlled both houses of Congress since the 2006 election? Why the democrats, of course. When did everything start to tank? After the election of 2006.

There seems to be a cause and effect here; democrats get elected and everything goes to "HELL". Republicans get elected and thing are good. Conclusion: Don't elect democrats to office.

Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

Good wages?

Does she mean good wages like those paid to the poor, underpaid public servants at NPR? The same selfless public servants that libs constantly remind us make far less than their private sector counterparts?

The only reason libs want higher salaries is so that there is more  income to tax.  The only exception being when Pelosi got the federal minimum wage exemption for her slave labor factories in the Samoan Islands.

"Don't blame me.....I voted for Palin"

Missing

What they always seem to miss is that it's not just how much they get paid. The number of workers they have and their salaries don't make up the difference they have with the implants. No, the real difference is the union contracts as a whole. The fact that a window-installer can't work on the door assembly line when a door assembly-man calls in sick is just silly, and that's pretty much what you get with the UAW. 

Explain to me one other buisness where you won't get fired when you constantly refuse to do anything but the bare necessities at work and expect to get paid more then the guys a state over who bend over backwards to get the job done and make a quality product, and I'll eat my millionaire monopoly hat AND monocole.  

Should the South rise again?

Why don't they say anything about those who work in the south? The average wage here is around $10 if you are lucky and the benefits are a joke.So most of us do not feel very sorry for those who take home $40 a hour and up and are worried about cutbacks.  Try living down here sometime.

Most all the money given away by the government has gone to northern states. It is time for the south to rise again for their rights and share of the money in my opinion.

Thankfully, Yahoo News has

Thankfully, Yahoo News has their elbow firmly on the pulse of the situation. Apparently the talkinng points were sent out to all the media, to frame the eveeeeel rich fatcat Repubs as in the pocket of foreign businesses and against the working man. Even Yahoo's take on the socialist card check program is laughable:

Many Democrats support the Employee Free Choice Act, which would take away employers' rights to demand a secret ballot on whether workers will join a union. Instead, workers could form unions by getting a majority of employees to sign a card in support of it.

See? It's all lollipop dreams and candy cane smiles, folks! 

 

 

I guess it's on the

I guess it's on the cards!

And that wonderfully democratic process whereby those in power kept a fatherly check on those not-so-secretly voting, worked so darned well with black folks in the past!

We should keep our traditions. Except Christmas, of course. That has to be changed to accomodate those who feel uncomfortable with the whole "Christ" thingy.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

Mark and Nwzbstrs Folks: *** Must See 3rd Point ***

1)  Finkelstein: Hearty Thank you for the Madcow story.

2)  Nwzbstrs Community: You all are the greatest! :)

3)  Economic illiteracy's so pervasive that the ideas of the average full-fledged Democrat (including of course the MSM) mirror the platform of the Communist Party USA. See  www.cpusa.org and investigate for yourself.  It's become "mainstream" (albeit unknowingly) to agree with the tenets of cpusa and their avowed adherents who despise capitalism.  Btw, the proponents of cpusa include many econ profs at state universities and "think-tanks" that have become trumpets for leftist thought.....John Podesta, Robert Pollin, etc.  It's quite incredible.  Too bad that NYT,WaPo, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN have abdicated their duty to report facts and trends, isn't it?

Typical leftwing lying

Ok...Maddow is cute in her way. Which explains her place at MSDNC. The young boys are watching her and drolling thinking "I could convert her!" But I digress...

10...count 'em 10 republicans voted for the bailout. Now with the 51 democrats in the Senate that would have given them a total of 61 votes. It would appear that not all the dems voted FOR the bill. Who were the holdouts? Probably the southern dems with auto plants in their states. So Harry Reid tells them it's ok to vote "no" and then blames it's failure on the republicans. Politically smart? Maybe. But completely dishonest with the American people. Just what we've come to expect (and can continue to expect) from the dems and the new administration. 

i think a good retort for the uninformed maddow would be...

most taxpayers, not just republicans, don't want to be employers ... by default.   she forgets that increasing wages affects far more people than workers involved or the companies forced to pay the workers.  by default, consumers/taxpayers end up footing the bill: 

1.  they will be forced to pay higher prices on goods

2.  higher taxes to pay for the unemployed when the businesses close due to high overhead associated with forced pay increases for staff.

3.  higher taxes for the unemployed who were let go by businesses ... forced to cut staff in order to reduce overhead by being forced to pay higher wages.

before any of these buffoons on network/cable television start preaching to me about anyone's pay or lack of ... they need to disclose their own salaries and and explain why they aren't donating most all of it the liberal causes they wish to force upon the rest of us.

Oh, that mischievious

Oh, that mischievious Rachel Madow. Such crafty interpretations of Republican motives. Hey, Rachel, is it okay to say that since you want Gitmo closed you want terrorism to defeat the US? Because that's the kind of crap you pull with dishonest suggestions like this. 

I still ask, even after the Detroit Three are bailed out, who's going to buy all those cars?

I wonder what kind of car Maddow drives???

Would anyone be willing to wager about the kind of car Rachel Maddow drives. If you bet import and won, you just made more money than a UAW worker. Just a hypothetical, but if true, does she not prove beyond a doubt the hypocrisy of most liberal democrat, import driving, Birkenstock wearing dip-wads. Oh, they know what's best for everyone else but are exempt from scrutiny or criticism. Oh, and they're not to blame for failed auto industry it's always someone else's fault. The liberals have mandated the domestic auto industry out of business.

 

Everly Waverly, big shot from the East says--
"Round'em all up and throw'em in jail"

Maddow???/ Maddow has no

Maddow??? Maddow has no idea of much of anything.  I've been at the table with the UAW and she's wrong as wrong can be--unions want to take away the right to a private vote--ain't that quaint?

Unions, Rachel dear, can't get anything the company isn't willing (able) to give.  Wages are paid for value added and the more people can make because of this, the better for all!!!    

God, I wished these reporters would get some education before they fool the few listeners/viewers they actually have. 

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

Listen up Butch!

To the butch Lesbian's Wet Dream, let me say I HATE UNIONS!  I would rather be a union buster than anything.  Unions give to the fascist/socialists once called the Democratic Party. 

 

Oh, and need I remind you of someone who posts to Brian Maloney's blog...AN AVOWED SOCIALIST, who could EASILY work for MadCOW!

 

"Buyers remorse? When after 4
years of Rush Limbaugh insisting that Obama was directly involved with
the scandal, and nothing, not a shred of evidence lends credibility to
the theory...... once more normal Americans will laugh last.
Ironically, Obama's approval rating just shot up!

America is happy with electing Obama, he vast, vast majority.
over 70%, and he is not even if office yet.

Live with it, right wing media is irrelevant and speaks for the fringe, not America in general.

yet another White Water( and I did not support Clinton either)

just
like White-water, wing nuts will be grasping at straws. I did not even
vote Obama, but I guarantee you now, Obama will be exonerated.

Look
I get the RNC talking points, I understand how the RNC works, the
talking points are filtered over to the radio hosts, repeated word per
word by the hosts, and recited by the ditto-heads who worship these
hosts.

WP Dunn, hate to break it to you, but Republicans will
remain out of power for the next 50 years. We all understand
politicians are corrupt, no Democrat thinks their party is angelic.
Only Republicans place all their faith in a political party.
Republicans have shown to legislate against common, working people, all
the scandals in the world will not get Republicans back in power.
People are not going to vote for the party of the rich, because Democrats are corrupt.

I have my RNC talking points too, and I'm rolling on the floor laughing as always.

Obama
will be re-elected in a landslide in 4 years and will most likely get
their 60 seats in 2 years. Republicans are finished, 30 years of
legislating against working people, did them in. No scandal will
reverse the rejection of the GOP. NONE

Sane America will
sit back and laugh at the GOP, and vote more GOP freaks out of office.
You can scream " bu bu bu blovich, blogovich" like the sheep that you
are.

Obama's troubles? HYSTERICAL. After 8 years of Bush,
America i rejoicing Bush is gone in 5 weeks. America is thrilled.
America hates the GOP. Get it through your thick skulls.

after Bush ran this country into oblivion, nobody cares about this scandal and nobody but wingnuts are blaming Obama

When
America is unified around their president, you know a Democrat is in
power and you know wing-nuts will take their Anti-American stance

but but Blogovich!!! bu bu

get
ready for 8 years of GOP whining, in January the entire nation will
celebrate and Republicans will be bitter and threatening to leave the
country

The govorner was caught on tape cursing Obama, so much for Obama being involved.

give us all a break

America is happy, Bush is DONE, Republicans are done. Patriots are thrilled.

in 8 years we all can here the right wing shrieking bu bu bu bu senator-gate!!!! Hysterical

By  AmericalovesObama, at 11 December, 2008 15:15"

 

Or try this...

 

Ever notice when Americans are happy, Republicans are miserable and trying to destroy the president?

Repukes,
you are either with us, or with the terrorists. Obama has a mandate and
his approval ratings shot up, in a poll released today

When
America does well, when America is optimistic, Republicans are
miserable. Republicans are only happy when the vast majority of
Americans are angry, broke and miserable, like the past 8 years

As
Obama slowly repairs the economy and America's reputation, Repukes will
be more and more miserable. Republicans hate when the common folk are
happy and successful.
They hated FDR, cursed his existence, since
FDR helped the working class, but cheered Ronald Reagan as he
slaughtered nuns in South America, and destroyed American labor. sick,
sick, people.

Bush was a wet dream for them. Corpses on 9-11
corpses from Iraq, corpses from New Orleans, poverty, unemployment,
decreased wages, increased hunger. 8 years of virtual terrorism against
America, and Republicans were thrilled. You people are sick
Anti-American degenerates
Jobs disappearing, un-insured children, failing schools, Republicans rejoiced.

sick,
sick, degenerates. Only a true terrorist would defend Bush and still
defend Bush. Maek Levin is a terrorist, Limbaugh is a terrorist,
Hannity is a terrorist.
Maloney is a terrorist, supporting Bush is
akin to terrorism, and now the terrorists are upset, their jihad leader
is leaving office

. You people supported a president that destroyed America, and gleefully supported him.

Republicans are thrilled when America is suffering. Now America is optimistic, Republicans are on suicide watch

real sick people

By  RepubsloveDeadAmericans, at 11 December, 2008 15:33"

 

 

Just one JUST ONE DAMN TIME, I want to go to this slapnuts house with a gun, knock on his door, he/she opens it, I stick the gun in his mouth...FIGURE OUT THE REST!  I HATE COMMIES, SOCIALIST, FASCISTS, DEMOCRATS...DAMN IT MAN I HATE'EM ALL!  THEY ARE TRAITORS WHO THINK THE CONSTITUTION IS A CONSPIRACY!  IF THEY THINK THAT WAY THEN THAT'S WHAT THESE GLOBAL FASCISTS THINK OF AMERICA AS WELL!

 

For the record, I am NOT RECOGNIZING BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ODINGA AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!  I would like to become part of a
secession front!