Promise, or threat? John Harwood declares "the New York Times isn't going anywhere." The Times correspondent, who also toils for CNBC, made his unconditional claim on today's Morning Joe in response to Joe Scarborough's envisioning of a future in which major news organizations, including the Times, might disappear. Scarborough was concerned that the public would be deprived of the media's investigative function.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: The problem is, though, that these people are all being fired. So what are we going to do without a New York Times or a Washington Post or an NBC News? The investigators that hold government accountable.That's when Harwood sprang to his employer's defense.
JOHN HARWOOD: The New York Times isn't going anywhere.A bit later, Scarborough, perhaps chastened by Harwood's emphatic declaration, responded with a somewhat modified view of the future.
SCARBOROUGH: New York Times isn't going anywhere, you're exactly right. But the New York Times of 2010 isn't going to look like the New York Times of 2000. I'm not picking on the Times; it's about every paper. And my concern is, they have to cut back. We all have to cut back. But reporters get cut and when reporters get cut there's less of the investigation powers.
HARWOOD: I have no argument with what you're saying. However, in the month of October, 750 million people visited the New York Times website, alright?
SCARBOROUGH: That's great.
HARWOOD: There's a business in there. It's a challenge to the creativity to figure out --
Harwood is right in the sense that 750 million people is a lot of eyeballs that should be able to generate significant ad revenue. I'd note that the Times's own press release states that in October, it had 52.6 million unique web visitors in the United States. But taking into account foreign visitors and repeat hits, Harwood could certainly be in the ballpark.
However, that same press release reported revenues that had dropped 9.4% from the previous year, with ad revenues falling off by 17.2% And just yesterday the Times announced it was borrowing against its HQ building to ease "a potential cash flow squeeze." That announcement came on the same day that the Tribune company, owner of the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times and the Baltimore Sun, among other news organizations, announced that it was going into bankruptcy.
Harwood's unfettered confidence in the Times's future might be an admirable display of loyalty. But can he really be so sure, or was Harwood whistling past the worldwide web?
Note: John Harwood has been in touch to mention that in citing the 750 million figure, he had page views, not unique visitors, in mind, and indeed Nielsen shows the Times with 767 million page views in October, 2008.
Update: NYT eyes asset sales as outlook worsens
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.




















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Yes Joe
December 9, 2008 - 10:40 ET by EurikaJoe: " The NYT, WAPO and NBC are the reporters, who has to hold the government ACCOUNTABLE"
Yeah, right, we will see how they do that in an Obama gov.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate and tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." -Samuel Adams
"the New York Times isn't
December 9, 2008 - 10:44 ET by BD"the New York Times isn't going anywhere."
Maybe...
December 9, 2008 - 10:51 ET by AJBLet's see... fake Pulitzer prizes, multiple retractions on totally bogus stories... can we only HOPE this is yet another in that same vein?
40 %
December 9, 2008 - 10:52 ET by MaytagWhen they target 35- 40% of the population to read the articles and bash 60 % of the people . What the h-ll do they expect?? As far as investigating and keeping Gov. honest the are so far up obama's backside a D9 cat could not pull them out.
Last hope for USA is 1 honest reporter..
Funny
December 9, 2008 - 10:52 ET by 10ksnookerThe NYTimes abrogated their responsibility for reporting truthful news. You dug your own gave.
I remember when the NYTimes dumped all over Bush when he mentioned in 2001 that we were in a recession, which was true. And now they lick Obummer's boots when he talks down the economy after adjusting the meaning of recession.
Just for the record, a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP.
The list of treasonous acts by the NYTimes in the last few years is too long to go into.
Good riddance.
New York Pravda
December 9, 2008 - 11:00 ET by kdizzydazeWhat???? hold government accountable? Investigators? They are anything but. It is patently obvious that for the last twenty years+ these "news" reporters and investigative journalists (save for one or two independent thinkers) are in the tank for libs and dems in general AND that they have worked dilligently to project an image of evil and hate and spite onto anything Republican. There is no honest to God reporting going on anymore - it's all propoganda for the left.
By the way, did anybody read about the Governor of Illinois getting busted for illegal activities (financing, pay for play, etc.)??? I don't recall seeing his party affiliation at all in the report I read. Googled him and voila!! He is a Democrat (shocker!!)
As for the papers - they will eventually go away. While I have no real data to confirm it, I do believe that the younger generation is using the web and alternative ways to get their information. Just a hunch. By the way, radio is another arena where the younger groups go to as well as it is passive learning for them. Listen in and get some info. And who has the market share there?? This is why the fairness doctrine will rear it's ugly head during Obama's reign of incompetence and finger-pointing.
God made man, but he used a monkey to do it -- DEVO
The NY Times is not going anywhere..
December 9, 2008 - 11:02 ET by szampAre we now going to have to subsidize left newspapers too?
John Harwood may be speaking a partial truth...
December 9, 2008 - 11:10 ET by ThalpyJohn Harwood may be speaking a partial truth because in business unless you move and grow, you die. The NYT isn't going anywhere.
Paper to a Pawn?
December 9, 2008 - 11:10 ET by BarkerWhen God said the New York Times is dead
And the wars begun
John Harwood has a cow today
he's right the new york times ISN'T going anywhere ...
December 9, 2008 - 11:38 ET by pmohbuckrotting corpses usually stay put
What's he gonna say?
December 9, 2008 - 18:42 ET by IndigoChillWell, what's he gonna say? "Yes, the Times is doomed. It's only a matter of time now." The PR team would love that.
But in all seriousness, I think most journalists understand that things are changing rapidly and they'll just need to be quick to find what works and use it. So I think it's safe to say most of the major papers aren't going anywhere.