Mashek of US News: Bishop Violates First Amendment by Denying Biden Communion

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. -- First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America

Because John Mashek is apparently so utterly unfamiliar with it, I've set out the text of the First Amendment for his ease of reference.  According to his column in U.S. News, the Roman Catholic bishop of Scranton, PA violates the First Amendment by denying Joe Biden communion because of his support for abortion rights.

Writes Mashek [emphasis added]:

Biden, like 14 other Democrats in the Senate, is both pro-choice and Catholic. So the bishop decreed that the party's vice presidential candidate was not welcome at the communion rail. These Senate Democrats and many other Catholics—including this writer—do not necessarily favor abortion, but we do not feel our religious views should be foisted on others in a nation where church and state are divided.

. . .

That division of church and state has application here. No priest, minister, or rabbi should be telling the flock how to vote or for whom. Some do, and they are wrong.

Let's make this as simple as possible for Mr. Mashek: the First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing a state religion.  It does not prohibit people, including bishops, from practicing theirs.  To the contrary, it forbids the government from passing laws that would prohibit that bishop from the free exercise of his religion.

The bishop has every right under the Constitution to deny communion to anyone he pleases.  For that matter, like any other citizen, he has every right to encourage others to vote in a certain manner.  Doing so from the pulpit could theoretically jeopardize his church's tax exemption, but both as a matter of the freedom of speech and the free exercise of religion, a bishop is free to express his political opinion to his parishioners.

At least as bizarre as Mashek's trampling of the First Amendment is his justification for doing so:

As a Catholic since birth and one raised by a devout Irish Catholic mother, I have serious problems with my church on this matter.

I admit it relates in large part to the pedophilia scandals that have ripped the church in recent years. Many priests (roughly 5,000 were accused) have been found to have abused young males and young girls, some of them altar boys.

Is Mashek suggesting that the church should be denied its constitutional rights because some within it committed sins and crimes?  It certainly seems that way.

And now, two days away from the first presidential debate, comes perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the Mashek mess: his bio.

John W. Mashek covered politics in Washington for four decades with U.S. News & World Report, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, and the Boston Globe. His primary beats were Congress, the White House, and national politics. He covered every presidential election from 1960 to 1996. He was a panelist in three televised presidential debates in 1984, 1988, and 1992.

That's right.  People with Mashek's muddled understanding of the principles upon which our country was founded not only cover politics and write columns in the MSM, they often serve as the moderators in our presidential debates.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.

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Consequences anyone...

It appears that some people don't realize that with the first amendment come consequences. You can say what you want, but you must live with the consequences of those remarks. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from responsibility of your actions.

"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink."  P.J.O'Rourke

Exactly.  You make your

Exactly.  You make your stand and you take the consequences.  What Mashek is saying is that there should be no personal consequences for a "political" stand.  Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

As a Catholic since birth and one raised by a devout Irish Catholic
mother, I have serious problems with my church on this matter.
 

I love how Mashek tries to use the fact that he is a Catholic as "proof" of the legitimacy of his claim.We're supposed to say:

Oh, if a lifelong Catholic says the Bishop is wrong, that settles it!

You know what, Mr. Mashek?  As a Catholic since birth and one raised by a devout Italian Catholic mother, I don't have any problems at all  with my church on this matter!

"Congratulations, you're

"Congratulations, you're Protestant." - Florence King (in response to friends who claimed to be Catholics who "don't agree with the Pope,")

;^)

 

"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall

parishoners bitching about

parishoners bitching about their church

the tail wagging the dog

who's in charge of the church anyway?

God demands submission, not bitching...

hence you will never find any liberals in Heaven 

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

Gee maybe Joe should see the Chaplain at UMASS

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/umass-obama/

He could get some college credits.

Sheesh. Well, if a

Sheesh.

Well, if a chaplain is FOR Obama, then it's OK to mix religion and politics. 

Thankfully, the University shot that down.

It isn't always that way though, with politics.  Professors have offered extra credit for going to political rallies, and given zeroes for written papers with the "wrong" political view.

 

MB

I know it is a mess.They are suppose to educate students not indoctrinate them.

Do you not realize that the

Do you not realize that the Constitution, along with the amendments thereto are, to liberals, a living, breathing document which will mean, never mind the actual words or phrases, whatever they wish it to mean at the time?  Only in that universe can an amendment, which restricts government, can mean that a Bishop practicing his religion as he sees fit is in violation of the terms of that Amendment.

can we say personal

can we say personal responsibility....that's a common theme amongst the libs and dems....never blame thyself always blame the institution...

the church is practicing it's religion and it's laws...so actually Mashek is violating the 1st amendment by denying the church's right to practice their religion

Mashek is a Catholic like Madonna(the singer) is a Catholic.

He probably hasn't gone in years. Who is he to say who can give their opinion as how to vote...?Also he is not too bright.

"That division of church and state has application here. No priest, minister, or rabbi should be telling the flock how to vote or for whom. Some do, and they are wrong".

That is the stupidest thing I ever read.Does he ever criticize Reverend Jesse Jackson  orReverend  Al Sharpton? The election isn't going the way they hoped  and lefties want to destroy anyone who gets in their way.

 

Victory in Iraq.

Liberals suck.

McCain for Preznint. 

I thought Madonna was a

I thought Madonna was a Kabbalistic Jew ;-)

Is that a word...?

"Kabbalistic"

You made that up.

 

Victory in Iraq.

Liberals suck.

McCain for Preznint. 

Kabbalistic:  adj. Of or

Kabbalistic:  adj. Of or relating to the Kabbalah.

Wow

I thought Madonna was a cabbage head.

***

The two are not mutually exclusive.

;^)

 

"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall

She was raised Catholic...

...but turned her back on it when her whoring ways kind of put that to bed (no pun intended...or did I?....)She suddenly "found" Kabbalah Judaism (which from what I understand, and I might be wrong, have to look it up) is a mystical, cultic-like form of Judaism.  Now she find it ok to bash Christianity since she's not into Jesus anymore.  She chose this version of Judaism because it, like normal Judaism, denies Jesus as the son of God which fits into her world view that Christians are bad, unlike normal Jews who just don't agree that he is the son of God. Take a look at her recent tour in which she appears crucified on a big mirrored cross on stage.  She will take any opportunity to dig at the Christian belief like those on the left who don't like to be judged on their life styles, or entertain the thought that they are doing something morally wrong.  This world view absolves them of any responsibilities for their actions.  It's a very immature (do-whatever-you-want) way of acting.  She's as artistic these days about as much as the "Piss Christ" "artist" guy is. And she's about as kosher as my ham sandwich for lunch today.

"The moment you give up your principles and your values, the moment you laugh at those principles and those values, you are dead, your culture is dead, your civilization is dead. Period." - Oriana Fallaci

Yeah, a real good Catholic

"...was not welcome at the communion rail."

Sadly, nearly all Catholic churches ripped out their altar rails about 40 years ago when the new Mass was instituted. Wonder when was the last time Mashek actually went to church?

 

 

Sadly, nearly all Catholic

Sadly, nearly all Catholic churches ripped out their altar rails about 40 years ago when the new Mass was instituted. 

True. I only saw it once during the '70s in my grandmother's church.

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

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This guy is allowed out without a keeper? I mean, where do you begin to deconstruct this "logic?"

I posted a reply to the article, to wit;

"Right there in the First Amendment is the right to assemble, and freedom of religion. The right of like-minded people to gather together to practice their religion. And to exclude those who don't agree with their religion. That's the only real relevance the First Amendment has to this issue; it defends the right of the Church to practice their beliefs, regardless of what Mashak or anyone else thinks. Mashak has not a clue what it's really about. It's about protecting freedom from people like MASHAK, who would obviously make the Church toe his line, if he had his way."

Not as elegant as I'd like, but their format sucks compared to NB. And I wasn't going to waste a lot of time. But virtually all the comments were in a similar vein. One sarcastic one was pretty good.

Who is this guy? Four decades of politics, and this is what he's learned? And he moderates debates? Yeah, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

"Congratulations, you're Protestant." - Florence King (in response to friends who claimed to be Catholics who "don't agree with the Pope,")

 

"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall

No allegiance to the Constitution

"As a Catholic since birth and one raised by a devout Irish Catholic mother, I have serious problems with my church on this matter."

I guess he also has a problem with the thirteenth amendment, as well as the first.

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America

Forcing a Bishop to give Biden communion when such an act would be against the will of that Bishop is a form of involuntary servitude, is it not?

He can't have it both ways

So the same liberals who want religion to have no part in the government of the United States now believe the Church should be subject to the first amendment?  The Catholic Church is and always has been very clear in their position on abortion.  (The opinions of biblical scholar Nancy Pelosi notwithstanding).  Biden can hold whatever opinions he wants as a US citizen, but the Church is under no obligation to ignore its own teachings to accommodate him by providing communion.  Should Yashiva University be forced to allow a pulled pork restaurant on campus? Certainly not.   Sorry Joe, you can’t have it both way.  Bravo to the Bishop for taking a stand.

What a poor article

Maybe this genius should elaborate further.  The First Amendment not only prevents the establishment of a state church, it also provides for non-interference in religious matters.  But what he seems to be saying is that the government should interfere with the Catholic Church in who it selects for receiving communion, something it is well within its rights to do. 

If these jokers so vehemently disagree with the Catholic Church on such matters as abortion, here is a novel concept: don't attend Mass, and don't be Catholic.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

I would love to talk to

I would love to talk to this guy for just a moment, I would use this quote of his

 

"As a Catholic since birth and one raised by a devout Irish Catholic mother, I have serious problems with my church on this matter."

 

and then ask him if he thinks the FREAKIN BISHOP just got out of CCD yesterday?

what a tool - as a non practicing Catholic who still respects the rules (I don't take communion, don't think I should until I feel right about it) these types of "Catholics" who are only so when it is politically expedient piss me off

So many misconceptions here

Masek inflicts so many wrong ideas here, it's hard to write briefly. And yes, this does indicate how shallow his thoughts are, and does cast doubt on his "qualifications."

  • Anyone who claims that their views on abortion are an “imposition on others” is, by that statement, an idiot. That’s a completely empty canard. It’s the false hubris of someone trying to avoid penalties for not standing up for what they believe. It’s cowardice.
  • Masek doesn’t understand the concept of authority, and certainly not religious authority. The bishop’s job is to judge what is, and what is not, legitimate Catholic teaching. It isn’t their job to be perfect. They were made bishops, not saints. You need to make the distinction between the bishop’s authority and his morality. Masek’s complaints about the bishop’s moral failings do not give Masek the right to disobey their religious authority. You cannot call yourself a Catholic and yet believe that listening to the bishops is optional. By definition, a Catholic must obey the moral teachings of the bishops. That’s not a tangent - that’s at the core of being Catholic.
  • The church is very clear that you cannot call yourself a Catholic and yet vote for someone who advocates for abortion. That’s not preventing you from voting for anyone. Is that undue influence? No, because the bishops are simply challenging you to adhere to Catholic principles. If you don’t want to be Catholic, vote for whoever you want.

This is the stereotypical liberal. He doesn’t want to obey the rules, he wants to be above them. He rejects authority because he wants to be seen as superior, either intellectually or morally. The stereotypical liberal simply wants to perch above others and look down upon the rest of us.

KC,

Good post. I would have one caveat, though. Liberals don't reject authority per se. They merely reject any authority that they don't agree with, approve of, and control.

 

"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall

IJ

"Liberals don't reject authority per se. They merely reject any authority that they don't agree with, approve of, and control."

Just because it is true doesnt mean you have to say it.There is probably some liberal who saw this and is now crying his eyes out.Back to sensitivity training for you. 

so let me get this straight,

so let me get this straight, we can't have religion dabble in the government school, but it's ok to have the government dictate what goes on in a chruch.  this guy mashek is a dunce.