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Brokaw Goes Brazile: Uses 'Jesus a Community Organizer' To Bash Giuliani By Mark Finkelstein (Bio \| Archive) September 14, 2008 - 17:52 ET How offensive was Donna Brazile's line about Jesus being a community organizer and Pontius Pilate a governor, uttered to make an invidious comparison between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin? Enough that even ardent Obama-phile Chris Matthews rapped Dem congressman Steve Cohen's knuckles for repeating it on the House floor. But, incredibly, on today's Meet the Press Tom Brokaw used Brazile's line to confront Rudy Giuliani over comments in his GOP convention speech about Obama's community organizing. Brokaw went so far as to display a button [screencap after jump] bearing the phrase. The MTP host might just as well have been wearing it. TOM BROKAW: Senator Obama, who had an Ivy league education and could’ve gone to Wall Street, went back to Chicago, on the South Side. As you know, his supporters have defended him for working with poor families, many of whom lost their jobs when the Gary steel mills closed. In that mocking fashion, it seemed to a lot of people that you were belittling the role of a community organizer, and it led to this button -- it was addressed to Senator Palin, because she also talked about it -- “Jesus Christ was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.” In retrospect, do you think you had too much sport with his role as community organizer, Mr. Mayor? Far from quoting the line to criticize its use, Brokaw wielded it as a cudgel against Giuliani. Ironically, it was Brokaw himself who recently called-out Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann for their excessive partisanship. Journalistic probity, like charity, begins at home. —Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net. 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Related Topics 2008 Presidential Campaigns & Elections Christianity Religion Hardball Meet the Press MSNBC NBC Comments Policy All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters. Viewing options Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. Funny.... September 14, 2008 - 17:57 ET by Prester John ...I thought Jesus was about SAVING people, not organizing them. Organizing is what Communists, Socialists, and Nazis do. Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus September 14, 2008 - 19:07 ET by joejm65 Does anyone know if this Jesus-Community organizer issue was discussed during any sermons today? I'm wondering if America's religious leaders have had anything to say about this. Just wondering. Login or register to post comments Email this page socialism September 14, 2008 - 19:12 ET by mbuel Yeah we know what they are hawking, the trick is to get the rest of America to realize how dangerous it is and not vote for the guy. Frankly if the dems and the media keep hawking this line it's going to get worse of Obama. The assumption of this line is obvious. That Obama is their Messiah and Paline is the person trying to crucify him! ABSURD. Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page Obama the "Community Organizer" - Even worse than you thought September 15, 2008 - 01:32 ET by Ten7s Excerpt from http://obamology.blogspot.com/ "Community organizer" is more sinister than it seems … in the world of Barack Obama ... The seditious role of the community organiser was developed by an extreme left intellectual called Saul Alinsky. He was a radical Chicago activist who, by the time he died in 1972, had had a profound influence on the highest levels of the Democratic party. Alinsky was a ‘transformational Marxist’ ... The revolution had to be carried out through stealth and deception. Its proponents had to cultivate an image of centrism and pragmatism... His creed was set out in his book ‘Rules for Radicals’ – a book he dedicated to Lucifer, whom he called the ‘first radical’. It was Alinsky for whom ‘change’ was his mantra. And by ‘change’, he meant a Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means which turned society inside out... through systematic deception, winning the trust of the naively idealistic middle class, using the language of morality to conceal an agenda designed to destroy it... Obama was trained by the Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago and worked for an affiliate of the Gamaliel Foundation,... In fact, for several years Obama himself taught workshops on the Alinsky method… According to Stanley Kurtz in National Review, ... Kurtz writes of Gamaliel, one of the least known yet most influential national umbrella groups for church-based community organizers: Gamaliel specializes in ideological stealth, and Obama, a master student of Gamaliel strategy, shows disturbing signs of being a sub rosa radical himself. Obama's legislative tactics, as well as his persistent professions of non-ideological pragmatism, appear to be inspired by his radical mentors' most sophisticated tactics. Not only has Obama studied, taught, and apparently absorbed stealth techniques from radical groups like Gamaliel and ACORN, but in his position as a board member of Chicago’s supposedly nonpartisan Woods Fund, he quietly funneled money to his radical allies -- at the very moment he most needed their support to boost his political career… If anyone should doubt Obama’s debt to Saul Alinsky, they might ponder this encomium from no less an authority than Alinsky’s own son. In a letter to the Boston Globe, L. David Alinsky wrote of his father’s influence at the Democratic Convention: All the elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situation and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd’s chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people. Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness. It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well… Login or register to post comments Email this page actually September 15, 2008 - 08:24 ET by mbuel I knew all that. Hence I call him a socialist at BEST. He's probably a marxist like his new preacher Jim Wallis. http://www.ibdeditor... In the '80s, for example, Wallis and Wright rallied to the cause of the communist regime in Nicaragua, and protested the U.S. arming of the Contra rebels. Wallis, in fact, marshaled thousands of "Witnesses for Peace" and joined them in Nicaragua, making it known they were willing to take a bullet to stop the anti-communist insurgency. Down with capitalism? This is the sort of "economic change" he was talking about on Letterman. This is NOT what I want, and I think not what a good majority of current Obama supporters want. They need to wake up. Wallis put another radical professor, James Cone, on his Sojourners editorial board. Cone is Wright's mentor and the father of black liberation theology, a Marxist version of Christianity that worships a white-hating black Jesus. "Together," Cone said, "black religion and Marxist philosophy may show us a way to build a completely new society." Wallis, who once regularly attended black liberation churches in his hometown of Detroit, has no problem with that. He says his mission is to "sojourn with others in different faith and traditions" toward a common goal of "social justice." There is NO WAY IN HELL, we can afford Obama for president. It wouldn't matter if McCain did pick liberal Lieberman (and thank god he didn't, he picked a true conservative). We have to work to stop Obama the marxist. Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page didn't you see the new September 15, 2008 - 08:35 ET by athoughtor2 didn't you see the new bumper stickers on the back of the limo's the liberals are driving, "jesus organizes"? Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus is just all right September 15, 2008 - 11:47 ET by TruthMonger Jesus is just all right (this week...:) yes, libs occasionally even see Him as one of their "honorary useful idiots" from time to time *Journalism is the opium of the liberals* Login or register to post comments Email this page Organizers September 15, 2008 - 08:56 ET by Sergeant ROCK Don't forget the MSM. They're busy organizing propaganda for Obama - their candidate. I guess I'm being redundant here. PALIN/McCain 2008 Login or register to post comments Email this page What was Brokaw thinking? September 14, 2008 - 18:04 ET by ThisnThat What was Brokaw thinking? How could any sane person with a national audience in the millions make a statement like that and expect to retain a shred of credibility afterwards? This proves that the entire NBC organization is rotten through and through for this statement had to be approved by top mangement as a way to bash the Republicans. And whatever in the world started this "community organizer is a primary qualification for president" business anyway? 30 years ago this would have been laughed to death. Not now, though -- I guess grasping at straws in "in" these days. ___________________________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber Login or register to post comments Email this page I think Brokaw has lowered September 14, 2008 - 18:30 ET by Gat New York I think Brokaw has lowered his credibility down to Olbermann with that comment. I think Rudy kept his cool and was equally shocked that Brokaw brought that up. I believe that MSM who are in the pockets of Obama and his backers are simply taking direction and talking points. Journalism has hit the abyss. Login or register to post comments Email this page brokaw September 14, 2008 - 19:16 ET by sawing batta He may have stooped to Olbermann levels, but think of the adulation from his central park west sycophants. Login or register to post comments Email this page I think September 14, 2008 - 20:48 ET by DEVILDOCMOM you have hit the point exactly sawing. I imagine they are high fiving whatever they drink these days over brokaw's going after Sarah Palin. The funny thing is, they don't fully realize what they are saying. Login or register to post comments Email this page it was truly inspiring to September 15, 2008 - 11:53 ET by TruthMonger it was truly inspiring to see Brokaw draw upon his decades of impartial media experience and training to carefully and painstakingly articulate "community organizer" so lovingly it made me well up with tears... and one day, hopefully, when a Republican community organizer tries to run for POTUS - we will be so priviledged to hear his exact opposite take on the ridiculous hilarity of such a notion... i always like to collect the complete sets - just like NB! *Journalism is the opium of the liberals* Login or register to post comments Email this page Seems obvious September 14, 2008 - 20:50 ET by general company Seems obvious why msnbc demoted Oberdude and Chrissy Matt. Guess they wanted to let the "real pro's" handle the situation "Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg Login or register to post comments Email this page Credibility? September 15, 2008 - 05:14 ET by Sergeant ROCK When did he ever have any to start with? PALIN/McCain 2008 Login or register to post comments Email this page and you can bet September 14, 2008 - 19:22 ET by Cape Conservative Tim Russert was spinning in his grave after this week's show! NBC might just as well roll up the carpets - MTP is nothing, nada, zero (as my guy, Rudy likes to say ;-) without Russert. Tom Brokaw is losing whatever credibility he had with every one of these little outbursts. BIAS??? MSM BIAS???? They can deny it until the cows come home, but one day, when their cameras are permanently in the off position and their doors are sealed tight, they will realize that the great unwashed masses weren't buying their lies! We are NOT stupid!!!!! Login or register to post comments Email this page 1 % September 15, 2008 - 11:29 ET by Red Jeep Only 1% of the country watches MTP. Login or register to post comments Email this page check this out... September 14, 2008 - 22:38 ET by kj.444 http://sitemaker.umich.edu/jginges2 Login or register to post comments Email this page I'm sorry to disagree with September 14, 2008 - 18:13 ET by motherbelt I'm sorry to disagree with all these newest "biblical scholars" like Brokaw et al, but Jesus was NOT a "community organizer." He was NOT into any kind of civic activity! In fact, He refused to even get into an argument about taxes when someone tried to goad Him. He was about teaching the Good News" which was that God loves us and sent His Son to die for us so that we might have eternal life. When He did preach about helping others, it was always on a personal, not a community level. This stupid statement by Brokaw just proves that the media will march in lockstep to whatever beat the Obama campaign is pounding out this week. Brokaw's credibility is not in the shredder, it's in the dumpster. Login or register to post comments Email this page mother September 14, 2008 - 20:52 ET by DEVILDOCMOM you are correct, as usual...never have I heard Jesus called a "community organizer" except by the ultra left wing during the last few days. If we are not careful, next ,who knows who they will compare michelle ma belle to... Login or register to post comments Email this page You got that 100% right! September 14, 2008 - 20:53 ET by RonC Thanks for stating the obvious! It is funny beyond belief that leftists would attempt to class Obama with Jesus... but that blasphemy is exactly their goal. Poor bastards... but, they deserve their fate. Login or register to post comments Email this page Right on, mb September 14, 2008 - 21:53 ET by KC Mulville Community organizers call for strikes when supermarkets raise prices. Community organizers call for marches when the local cop kicks the crap out of a local kid. Don't get me wrong, that's useful at times ... but if anyone thinks that's what Jesus did, they missed the whole point of Jesus. And the flip side is just as ridiculous: the model for governors is Pontius Pilate. Right. Once again, the liberals hear another snarky slogan and think it's as deep as Philosophical Investigations. There's a difference between clever and wise. Any smartass teenager can be clever. Wisdom is another dimension entirely. Login or register to post comments Email this page More of that interview September 14, 2008 - 18:07 ET by Redrowan2000 Brokaw , also wearing his obama pin behind his lapel, went on to bash who else? Governor Palin. Rudy trumped him and kept the experience topic in the foreground. Barack is no longer running against John McCain, he's running against Sarah Palin. Good job Tommy. "Don't let the bastards grind you down." Red Login or register to post comments Email this page And that is just how the September 14, 2008 - 18:11 ET by motherbelt And that is just how the McCain campaign likes it! Having to claim that their Presidential candidate is better than the other side's Vice-Presidential candidate is a bit pathetic. I haven't chuckled this much since they were comparing Mrs. Clinton to the wives of the other candidates. Login or register to post comments Email this page Grind you down September 15, 2008 - 05:13 ET by Sergeant ROCK Motorhead: Iron Fist? PALIN/McCain 2008 Login or register to post comments Email this page According to John September 14, 2008 - 18:16 ET by suburbanite Pontius Pilate was only acceding to the wishes of the Sanhedrin - the Jewish Senate. Jesus said that Pilate’s authority came from God and the Sanhedrin was guilty of the greater sin (John 19:11). Et tu Barry. Login or register to post comments Email this page Touche' Ronald Reagan, September 14, 2008 - 19:16 ET by USA4freedom Touche' Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me. Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party. Login or register to post comments Email this page I normally wouldn't respond to this, but.... September 14, 2008 - 20:24 ET by Mr. Kafir Since Jesus was a Jew, he knew full well the authority of the court: The Great Sanhedrin dealt with religious and ritualistic Temple matters, criminal matters appertaining to the secular court, proceedings in connection with the discovery of a corpse, trials of adulterous wives, tithes, preparation of Torah Scrolls for the king and the Temple, drawing up the calendar and the solving of difficulties relating to ritual law. And he knew full well the punishment the court could designate: It was the final authority on Jewish law and any scholar who went against its decisions was put to death as a zaken mamre (rebellious elder). But the issue that everyone forgets is that the Romans brought Jesus in front of the court, not the Jews since they lacked the authority to arrest anyone. Remember the Romans controlled Judea and Samaria. The Sanhedrin judged accused lawbreakers, but could not initiate arrests. It required a minimum of two witnesses to convict a suspect. There were no attorneys. Instead, the accusing witness stated the offense in the presence of the accused and the accused could call witnesses on his own behalf. The court questioned the accused, the accusers and the defense witnesses. "Israel and Palestine should have their countries taken away from them, put in timeout, until they can prove they can get along." - balboa, ignorant bastard, 3/17/08 Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus' arrest in the garden September 14, 2008 - 21:26 ET by suburbanite Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons. John 18:1 Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him, And led him away to Annas first; for he was father in law to Caiaphas, which was the high priest that same year. Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people. John 18:12-14 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover. John 18:28 Judas and those arresting Jesus were under the direction of the Sanhedrin. The Jews bore the responsibility for handing over Jesus to Pilate for crucifixion. But the whole point was that Pilate (Executive Branch - Governor) was not the one who was ultimately responsible for the Jesus' death. God endowed Pilate with authority, as He did with Nebuchadnezzar, to fulfill the Messianic prophecy. Jesus did not chastise Pilate. Instead, He chastised those responsible for handing Him to Pilate - the Sanhedrin (Legislative/Judicial Branch). "Fight the good fight every moment, It's your only way" Triumph Login or register to post comments Email this page Sorry, but I know Jewish law.... September 14, 2008 - 22:06 ET by Mr. Kafir and like I said above, "The Sanhedrin judged accused lawbreakers, but could not initiate arrests." So this: Judas and those arresting Jesus were under the direction of the Sanhedrin. Is not correct. But I'm not gonna argue Christian theology since being a Jew, I'm not an expert on it. But I do know a thing or two about Jewish law. :-) "Israel and Palestine should have their countries taken away from them, put in timeout, until they can prove they can get along." - balboa, ignorant bastard, 3/17/08 Login or register to post comments Email this page Shalom September 14, 2008 - 23:05 ET by suburbanite I'm simply relating what's said in John's gospel. We can agree to disagree. Shavua Tov. "Fight the good fight every moment It's your only way" Triumph Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus said that Pilate’s September 15, 2008 - 06:13 ET by motherbelt Jesus said that Pilate’s authority came from God and the Sanhedrin was guilty of the greater sin Difference in interpretation: I always read that as Jesus saying that Judas, who betrayed him, had the greater sin. Never thought about it from your point of view. Login or register to post comments Email this page Judas didn't "judge" Jesus September 15, 2008 - 10:49 ET by suburbanite I think the point that John was trying to make is that the ones who judged Jesus were guilty of the greater sin. Judas betrayed Jesus but he didn't judge Him. Pilate crucified Jesus but he was carrying out the will of those who judged Him. This doesn't minimise Judas' and Pilate's guilt but it does condemn Jesus' judges. "Fight the good fight every moment It's your only way" Triumph Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus was NOT a "community organizer!" September 14, 2008 - 18:18 ET by Indiana Joe I'm getting tired of people denigrating Christ by trying to compare Obama to Him. Stop insulting my religion! Maybe it's time for a little CHRISTIAN "protest," ala the Danish cartoons. That worked pretty well, didn't it? Barely got out of the gate, those cartoons, huh? The only thing fascists respect is violence. Which says much about them and their motives, IMO. Christ did not tell people that he would make sure they had a place to live. He told them to leave their lives and follow Him. "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's." Not "it's up to Caesar to take care of you, and I'm going to make sure he does." Christ told individuals to be charitable, he told no one to depend on the state to support them. Never. Did not happen. Famously, the Lord helps those who help themselves. Which probably explains liberals' disgust with His whole philosophy. Sure, they'll "wave the flag" of Jesus, but beyond that, they don't have much use for His Teachings. What Jesus was about is so far from "community organizing" that only a brain-dead stoat (or Donna Brazile) would even consider a comparison. Oh, and Tom Brokaw now. Giuliani should have handed him his head. Brokaw got off lucky. "... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall Login or register to post comments Email this page Obama registered people to September 14, 2008 - 18:31 ET by well99 Obama registered people to vote.I dont remember Jesus doing that?I must of missed that lesson. Login or register to post comments Email this page yep September 14, 2008 - 19:15 ET by mbuel You are right on. I had this debate with one of the marxist sojourners last year. They are pompous enough to think that they can practice socialism the "right way". (I'm serious) It's not only are they denigrating Jesus to christians (which is REALLY stupid), they are messiahifying Obama, and turning Palin into the person that is crucifying their Messiah! MY GOD, do they really think this line is going to win them over voters? Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page and tonight, ABC September 14, 2008 - 19:32 ET by Cape Conservative thought it was very important to visit Sarah Palin's childhood church (you know, where some people might speak in tongues-let's make it real scary to our viewers) to interview her former pastor. However, for some reason, ABC doesn't want to interview the former pastor of Barack Obama - you know, the one who preached hatred of whites and America as he sat in the pews for 20 ADULTHOOD years! Wonder where Joe Biden spent his childhood Sundays...comeon, ABC, let's go interview Senator Biden's former pastor. Wonder where Barack Obama spent his childhood Sundays - hmmm, since his momma was an atheist, I doubt he had a "childhood pastor" - so much for his "Kansas Values" he loves to talk about! Obama is such an EMPTY SUIT and the media will never admit it! And...it will be the DEATH of media as we know it now. Which will NOT be a bad thing! Login or register to post comments Email this page How about interviewing his current pastor? September 14, 2008 - 23:26 ET by mbuel Sure an interview with Wright would be entertaining, but more telling is that he is sitting in the pews of another anti-american faux preacher, that is following marxism and not christianity. The only difference between the anti-capitalist message Wright "preached" and the one Wallis "preaches", is the lack of Black Nationalism. If people actually heard what this guy states they might wake up from their Obama loving stupor. (hey one can always hope!) Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page Brokaw September 14, 2008 - 19:31 ET by timrfrench61 This could be about the stupidest thing Brokaw has ever said. If I were him I would have wished that I had stayed retired. Login or register to post comments Email this page Hopefully he is on the September 14, 2008 - 19:35 ET by Cape Conservative plane heading west as we post. He just might want to stay out at the ranch for a while - at least until the viewers can put his disgusting biased "reporting" exhibited today behind them. Login or register to post comments Email this page Cape September 14, 2008 - 20:55 ET by DEVILDOCMOM don't you dare send him to the West. He is the East's and you are stuck with him. LOL Login or register to post comments Email this page Oh DDM....We have been September 14, 2008 - 21:42 ET by bigtimer Oh DDM.... We have been stuck with this POS here in Mt. for years now, he had a lot to do with the defeat of Burns in our state during the '06 elections I think it was, heck he used the airwaves with his seniority that was past maddening, most people would not have paid attention unless he lived in their state and had an election for a Senator upcoming, he used he Abramoff Scandal almost daily on msnbc, along with the Firefighters Union, which I had a link to once, plus the had Thomma (sp) whose paper, McClatchey has about taken over at least least half of Montana's papers in the past... Yeah he's in the NW along with Turner, half of Hollywood and a whole bunch of NE leftists with money...we've been in big trouble for years now with these critters, take too long to explain what all they have done to this state for well over a decade now...court rooms ought to give you a good example to stop progress of our own self dependency or wealth...including small businesses, communities thriving ect. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page You know bt, September 15, 2008 - 22:57 ET by DEVILDOCMOM I had forgotten that...I knew you were stuck wih turner and some of the other hollywood libs. Sorry...guess (of course) they already discovered the west and your beautiful part of it. Login or register to post comments Email this page Unfortunately - Giuliani isn't really Christian informed... September 14, 2008 - 21:15 ET by RonC Yes, Brokjaw got off extremely lucky. It is too bad that a real Christian didn't answer his ludicrous question. He should have been told that to compare Christ with Obama was flat-out blasphemy in the eyes of all true Christians. Login or register to post comments Email this page I saw this segemnt September 14, 2008 - 18:24 ET by bigtimer I saw this segment today... Let me just put this as plain as I can. Rudy was GREAT! Brokaw was made a fool of...he is too arrogant to realize that...like most talking head leftists. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Glad to hear it, BT September 14, 2008 - 19:37 ET by Cape Conservative I didn't see the show this morning but I have been pleased as punch at how Rudy and Fred are really letting it all out lately! I sure hope they keep those two fellows busy! Login or register to post comments Email this page Brokaw September 14, 2008 - 20:25 ET by MaximusBraveheart I saw this portion too when getting ready to go to Church. One thing I noticed is during the Dem interview first of Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, Brokaw pretty much accepted things he said and did not try to argue to present potential Republican rebuttals. Then Rudy comes on and he is providing a defense like a Democrat. I taped the rest; had to leave during Rudy. Liberal media insults Christians no doubt. DID YOU SEE SAT-Night-LIVE? VERY, very insulting to home school kids. Makes the home-school mom look like a whack-job and the kids dumb as rocks with very stupid beliefs. Hard to imagine them getting away with this. Need to make fun of muslim kids and see the response... Not even accurate is what is so irritating too. The smartest kid our company ever hired was a mormon home schoool kid who graduated from college at like 18 yrs. old. Login or register to post comments Email this page I wonder how the other 49 September 14, 2008 - 18:26 ET by BuffNBone I wonder how the other 49 (or 56) governors feel about the comparison to Pilate? "Fighters are fun but bombers make policy" Login or register to post comments Email this page I thought Christ organised September 14, 2008 - 18:27 ET by i b squidly I thought Christ organised communion. Not sorry I missed the exchange. Meet the Press lost me as well as Russert. First, kill all the lawyers. -Wlm Shakespear Login or register to post comments Email this page The difference is ... September 14, 2008 - 18:31 ET by zachlind The only difference between Tom Brokaw and Keith Olbermann is, is … now that I think about it, none. There may have been a time when there was a difference but no more. Those days are gone. Login or register to post comments Email this page Obermann has won. The September 14, 2008 - 18:38 ET by ThisnThat Obermann has won. The cloning experiment was a success. ___________________________________ If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber Login or register to post comments Email this page I grew up watching Brokaw September 14, 2008 - 18:48 ET by bigtimer I grew up watching Brokaw politically...we are about the same age...he is no different than Olbie in his views, he was always smart enough not to express them, or he wouldn't have achieved the status he has, just keep mum, mask your words all the while using insinuations with intentional bias nightly, like they all did for decades...yep, same difference...just different times, more latitude in the world we live in now... Only thing happening now is the obvious blatant excess with the left...which I am thankful for.... Pay backs are hell..and I've been waiting a mighty long time. Desperation and fear is bringing the best (or worst depending on how you look at it) out in all of them...like nothing I have ever witnessed. I am one Happy Camper...and keep up the good work msm. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page I agree, BT September 14, 2008 - 19:41 ET by Cape Conservative You can almost smell the sweat! Couldn't happen to more deserving folks!! Let them twist and turn - and spin some more - just like Charlie's foot the other night - I almost reached into the tv and broke it off for him, the pompous A$$! Ms. Sarah really held her ground with him, didn't she! Login or register to post comments Email this page Saw the interview. September 14, 2008 - 18:35 ET by lotr Saw the interview. Brokaw, while appearing quite neutral, came playing hardball -- I can't imagine him throwing the same heat to a Democratic candidate. Giuliani held his own, though. On to another matter, while Jesus certainly called his audiences to repentance, I don't see how this made him a "community organizer." The Apostles Peter and Paul, maybe. And Pilate wasn't elected by those whom he governed. Login or register to post comments Email this page "I can't imagine him September 14, 2008 - 18:42 ET by Indiana Joe *"I can't imagine him throwing the same heat to a Democratic candidate."* They couldn't handle it. They're too used to soft-ball questions from their MSM "pals." This is where all the "heat" thrown at Republicans is paying off... for us. "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger." "... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus was no community organizer September 14, 2008 - 18:35 ET by nkviking75 You may remember that at one point the crowd of Jesus' followers wanted to make Him an earthly king, and Jesus walked away. Obama would jump at the chance. Many of Jesus' followers wanted him to lead a rebellion against Rome. That's what a community organizer would do. Jesus just went right on proclaiming the gospel. *When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.* Login or register to post comments Email this page Thanks for getting it September 14, 2008 - 19:05 ET by L.N. Smithee Thanks for getting it. If he was as humble as he claims he is, he would say something to quash all this "messiah" talk from his own supporters in the same way that he said he would fire anyone who went after the Palin children. "Well, I've got nothing against the press...they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true..." -- Joe Jackson, "Sunday Papers" Login or register to post comments Email this page Instead, he let them September 14, 2008 - 19:44 ET by Cape Conservative build him a "temple" complete with styrofoam columns - the better from which to receive their accolades ;-) Oh well, you know the old saying, "the higher they climb, the farther they fall" - Barack Hussein Obama is in for a rude awakening come November 5! Login or register to post comments Email this page Valid point! September 14, 2008 - 20:30 ET by MaximusBraveheart This was good nkviking! "You may remember that at one point the crowd of Jesus' followers wanted to make Him an earthly king, and Jesus walked away. Obama would jump at the chance. Many of Jesus' followers wanted him to lead a rebellion against Rome. That's what a community organizer would do. Jesus just went right on proclaiming the gospel. " Login or register to post comments Email this page Did Jesus build a $100,000 September 14, 2008 - 18:38 ET by DaBird Did Jesus build a $100,000 gazebo too? Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus built a whole September 14, 2008 - 18:44 ET by Indiana Joe Jesus built a whole Kingdom, DaBird. Estimates vary. ;^) "... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus created the universe September 14, 2008 - 18:50 ET by suburbanite John 1:3 (KJV) All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made. Login or register to post comments Email this page ..Amen... "America isn't September 14, 2008 - 18:53 ET by bigtimer ..Amen... "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Well, he does pave the September 14, 2008 - 19:14 ET by Dan The Man 2 Well, he does pave the streets with gold....so perhaps Obama is trying to be like Him. Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. Login or register to post comments Email this page Brokaw WASN'T wearing the Obama button? September 14, 2008 - 19:01 ET by L.N. Smithee Brokaw WASN'T wearing the Obama button? TOM BROKAW: Senator Obama, who had an Ivy league education and could’ve gone to Wall Street, went back to Chicago, on the South Side. As you know, his supporters have defended him for working with poor families, many of whom lost their jobs when the Gary steel mills closed. In that mocking fashion, it seemed to a lot of people that you were belittling the role of a community organizer... Feh. He might as well have been wearing it. "Well, I've got nothing against the press...they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true..." -- Joe Jackson, "Sunday Papers" Login or register to post comments Email this page LNS... I agree with you, September 14, 2008 - 19:16 ET by bigtimer LNS... I agree with you, as always it seems. Now I want to know what Feh means. I have seen this posted before elsewhere and always forget to ask... ... sorry if it is a stupid question, but heck, I am an inquiring simple mind that needs to know. Thanks "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page heh, heh... September 14, 2008 - 20:43 ET by RonC I noticed no one answered your question about 'feh' - uh, perhaps because no such word exists (as yet anyway) - according to Webster, Merraim that is. But, in Webster's New Millennium it is a Yiddish "expression of disgust, disapproval, or displeasure." Or, might I add, an expression of intense disagreement! LOL.... Login or register to post comments Email this page As some wag opined... September 14, 2008 - 19:08 ET by Dan LaHood Pontius Pilate voted "present" eh? Login or register to post comments Email this page Jesus was our Savior, Obama September 14, 2008 - 19:12 ET by USA4freedom Jesus was our Savior, Obama is not Jesus Christ, (even if he thinks he is) Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me. Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party. Login or register to post comments Email this page followers September 14, 2008 - 19:16 ET by mbuel It's becoming more and more obvious that Obama's followers really do think he is the messiah. Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page Amen to that! September 14, 2008 - 19:18 ET by suburbanite More like II Cor 11:13 (KJV) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Login or register to post comments Email this page it never ceases to amaze me September 14, 2008 - 19:30 ET by ron it never ceases to amaze me how the Christian faith is denigrated by the msm until they want to use it to try to promote their warped agenda Login or register to post comments Email this page Taxes and Jesus? September 14, 2008 - 19:34 ET by dmntd1 Church today had an interesting passage.... and as long as you're sharing that one, this is my favorite for today grin Matthew 9:10-12 NIV 10) While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew's house, many tax collectors and "sinners" came and ate with him and his disciples. 11) When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" 12) On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick." My personal translation just said Jesus called tax collectors bad people grin If they want to compare the ONE to Jesus, might as well inform them that Jesus called the tax collectors bad, right? *Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini* Login or register to post comments Email this page Was Hitler? September 14, 2008 - 19:25 ET by dmntd1 Would Hitler be a community organizer? In his time in 'office', he did the following: Regulated factory job conditions regarding start/end times, breaks, paydays, employment terminations, vacations, fines for not meeting production, vacations, 'green rooms' (i.e. living plants in factories to calm the workers under stress). Formed state-backed vacations such as cruises, beach trips, and nature trips (i.e. hiking and camping). Instituted education financing for everyone, from tots, through teens and into the professional positions of the day. Helped engineer public transportation for the workers. Organized, and agitated, one a majority populace against a minority populace (aryans -v- Jews/Homosexuals/handicapped). Heck, even Il Duce made the busses run on time, right?!? *Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini*