The more excuses Andrea, David and Howard make, the more people keep focusing on the remarks.  They would better serve their boss by dropping the subject -- as he has ordered.

If Mitchell says "he was clearly talking about McCain, not Palin" she really means "he was clearly talking about Palin, not McCain."

It's the same as when I lived in Minnesota during the early 90's.  I could be lazy and not study the issues by using the Wellstone method.  Whatever Wellstone supported, I was against and vice versa.  It's the same with Mitchell and her ilk (and no, unwashed libs, an "ilk" is not a big deer).

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Why don't we just ask what the perception of the American people was when the comment was made? Is the media going to bail out Obama when he's having meetings with Iran as POTUS and makes a statement not knowing the implications of how his statements are percieved and not "what he meant".

Apparently no one in the MSM understands what this whole thing truly means, it doesn't matter what he meant!

"Perception is reality"

I mean all's fair in Love and war and Politics, But truthfully, I think it is much ado about nothing, like I said, kick em while their down  LOL, But trust me they have so much more to worry about and will be giving us even bigger handgranades to lob back over the net. It's almost to easy,    Caveat..........Beware of the Shrillery surprise, cause that I think could spell trouble, or may blow up on them.  jmho.   Steve

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If he clearly wasn't talking about Gov. Palin maybe he was talking about Ms. Mitchell. Couldn't be about Michelle 'cause she would beat Hussein severely about the head and shoulders. Andrea does look better with lipstick, much better.

Obama is clearly an idiot.  Clearly.  Because he is so oblivious to some fundamentals of behavior.

So what if McCain used the phrase about lipstick on a pig three times?  So what if Cheney has used it?  So what if it's been a homespun homily for years and years and years?  The fact is that since her acceptance speech, everyone knows that Sarah Palin OWNS "lipstick". 

If Obama was as shrewd and aware as he and his handlers would like us to believe, he'd have KNOWN that using it after her speech, no one could think otherwise than that he hoped everyone would suspect he was referring to Sarah.

The very fact that he waited those extra beats before he dumped his punch-line on his sychophants is evidence that he knew dang well what he was inferring.

He's either an ass or an idiot.  Neither is Presidential material.

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."  - Paul (Rom. 13:1) 

I don't think Obama was referring to Palin either but you know what: Karma can be a real bitch.

I seem to remember the Obama camp and surrogates - including about 90% of the babbling heads at CNN and MS-NBC - bitching and screaming "RACE!" at every innocuous utterance by Bill and Hilary Clinton during he Dem primary, whether it was Bill calling Obama as a "kid" (that's very close to calling him "boy"!!!) or Hillary DARING to mention the name MLK in the same sentence as LBJ. It was all race-baiting, all-the-time from January through June.

Honestly, I saw it the opposite way - so did my lefty friends at dinner last night....but they counter "everyone says stupid things once in a while" 

I agree, we all do.  Did he call them a pig in a way that has plausible deniability?  Yes.  Classless, sure, but let's move to the more important issue.

The interesting aspect of this isnt that people throw barbs around, they do, but the illumination of their character and how they react after they've been called on it. 

Let the campaign (andrea included) continue to spin it and treat it as a joke ("quick, book barry on letterman, he's a friendly, he'll make it into a big ol' joke").  The telling point here is that they didn't come clean and just say it was in bad taste given her lipstick joke days earlier, a result of a heated campaign, oops - apologize and be done with it.  They are trying to BS their way out of it...and have a willing media to front them.

Is this how they will deal with the tough guys in Russia, China, N. Korea and elsewhere who dont take BS?  to BS them??

People, wake up.  Or as slick willy would say,

It's the Character, Stupid."

Yesterday, in a piece entitled “Mitchell Laughs Off the Lipstick: 'He's Not Talking About Palin',” Mr. Finkelstein stated that "Obama knew darn well what he was saying." So does he fancy himself a more skilled mind reader than the people he disparages for their mind-reading?

The FACT is that no one knows what Obama was thinking when he made the comment. But since he was talking about economic matters, had not yet mentioned Palin in his speech, and was using a phrase that most people (including John McCain) have employed at one time or another  to disparage something or someone that does not literally wear lipstick,  the odds are that the commentators Mr. Finkelstein refers to are right and the McCain campaign is wrong. 

So give it a rest already. Let's talk about issues.

Barak was very clearly making a comment on Sarah as the "pig' and John as the "old fish". What don't you and the apologists get about the imagery presented?

Barak uses these two old saws to pretend he meant something else. The whole point is to beable to claim plausible denial. The only problem is that it sounds just like a schoolboy saying "Whaaaat? Who meeee? I didn't say it that waaaay. Why would I eeeever do such a thing? You must have misunderstood what I said."

The clear link between Sarah and the pig is that she had just spoken at the convention of putting lipstick on a pitbull.......The logical inference becomes pig because of her recent comment. The media and politicians that present other similar comments are confusing the issue to cover up for Barak.

If the lipstick on a pig comment and fish wrap comment had been made prior to Sarah's speech at the Republican Convention. It would have been an unkind "ageist" poke at John as an "old fish". The timing of the comment connects both Sarah and John to the comment but most directly connects Sarah.

Yo, Andrea - yo' man be clear as mud.  And, if that sounds racist, then all I can say is good for me. 

But sometimes ya just gotta call a spade a spade...

Oopps, that was aimed at Obamas foreign policy experience.

Sorry.

 All Palin needs to say in response to the lipstick/pig deal is " I don't think he meant anything personal with his lipstick on a pig remarks, but you know, some people can tell a joke and some can't, and, some people can take a joke and some can't.!!

(GRINS)  kilrod

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