Conservatives are more racist than the population at large, and John McCain plans to "viciously" stir up racism to beat Barack Obama. That is John Heilemann's belief, as propounded in his New York magazine article, The Color-Coded Campaign, and spelled out in a CNN appearance today. The author even broke out the trite "Wonder Bread America" epithet to describe that portion of the country not lucky enough to be NYC.
Interviewed by Kiran Chetry on "American Morning" today at 6:32 AM EDT, Heilemann's jumping-off point was the question of why Obama's lead over McCain is smaller than the 10-15 points by which Dems are generically leading Republicans nationwide. Heilemann gave short shrift to the possibility that Obama is a weak candidate, given his lack of experience and most-liberal-in-the-Senate record that puts him at odds with the electorate. He focused instead on what he claims is an under-reported factor—Obama's race. It was there that he equated conservatism with racism.
JOHN HEILEMANN: During the Democratic primaries during the exit polls we would ask people whether race was an important factor for them. And somewhere, in places like New Jersey, Ohio and Pennsylvania, 10 or 12 percent of the vote said race that was an important factor and voted for Hillary Clinton. And that's for many people a reasonable proxy to tell you about what the numbers were like for people who voted for Hillary because she was white, didn't vote for Barack because he's black. And that number will be larger in the general election because general election is a more conservative electorate than the Democratic primary electorate was.
View video here.
Now, it's true that the general electorate is whiter than the Dem primary electorate, and by definition there is more anti-black racism among whites than blacks. It would have been fair for Heilemann to make that point, but he chose instead to slur conservatives. Kiran Chetry didn't bat an eye.
Talk turned to McCain's purported tactics.
HEILEMANN: The question about McCain is, look, this is a very furious debate going on right now, about whether the McCain campaign is playing, is playing with racial elements in a lot of their ads. I think there's a pretty good case to be made that they're doing that in very subtle and kind of careful ways.
So "subtle and careful" that Heilemann couldn't—or at least didn't—cite one example. He continued.
HEILEMANN: And it's not as though the Republican party does not have a history of using very kind of ingeniously coded racial appeals to try to scare white voters away from the Democratic party generally. That would also come into play with Obama. It seems logical to conclude and I think there's a pretty good case to be made that they're starting to do that. We're going to see that throughout the rest of the campaign, even if it's not as blatant as it was back in the days of Lee Atwater and the Willie Horton ad.
Chetry again failed to make a peep.
You might say Heilemann's TV appearance was just the PG version. He presented the same arguments in more tendentious terms in his magazine article. There, Heilemann wouldn't admit the obvious—that Obama played the race card when he said that McCain would point out that the Dem "doesn't look like the other presidents on those dollar bills." To the contrary, claimed Heilemann, Obama's currency crack was a case of Obama "calling out" the McCain campaign on their racist tactics. He mentions but does not embrace the argument some have made that the Paris Hilton ad was a subtle appeal to fears of miscegenation. Heilemannn claims instead that the racism in the ad was "implicit." Translation: I'm incapable of describing what was racist about it, but trust me, it's there.
After discussing Obama campaign tactics, consisting of staying away from race and focusing on the economy, and going after McCain as with Obama's line last week on Republican reaction to the Barack's tire-inflation cure for high gas prices: "It’s like these guys take pride in being ignorant.”
But Heilemann frets this might not be tough enough, given what those perfidious McCain people are up to [emphasis added]:
Far be it from me to quarrel with either of these tactics; both are necessary and, I’d wager, right around the corner. (The Obamans are no dummies.) But they also strike me as insufficient responses to the race-fueled angst that Obama’s candidacy has stirred up and that the McCain campaign plans artfully, viciously to exacerbate in the weeks ahead.
Heilemann closes with his condescending crack about Obama's background being alien to "much of Wonder Bread America," and calls on America to have, yes, yet one more "conversation" about its own racism. Heilemann never acknowledges the possibility that Americans might reject Obama for reasons having nothing to do with race. The MSM script is already being written: if Obama loses, blame the racism of middle-America.
Note: With "Morning Joe" on a two-week hiatus for the Olympics, I'll be monitoring "American Morning" and other sources to bring you the best of liberal bias with your breakfast Wonder Bread. Judging by today's episode, looks like American Morning could be fertile territory.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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Sen McCain and his staff would be...
August 11, 2008 - 07:26 ET by AmericanEnergist...complete idiots to EVER introduce a race-tainted salvo. It's best when the 'Ohhh' campaign throws it out and the American voters see that HE is obsessed with race and Sen McCain has resisted.
The Good Ship Barack may sink themselves on this very issue.
www.ArmchairEnergist...
"Oh, and did I mention....
August 11, 2008 - 07:32 ET by MrShy"Oh, and did I mention.... he's black."
- Barack "Hussaaaaaaaaaain" Obama
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
check out all the lefties
August 11, 2008 - 16:06 ET by TruthMongercheck out all the lefties that won't vote for a CHRISTIAN
manhatten is pretty solid on that one
Journalism is the opium of the liberals
Heilemann Stirs Up Vicious Racism
August 11, 2008 - 12:07 ET by kgHeilemann Stirs Up Vicious Racism by Saying That McCain Plans to 'Viciously' Stir Up Racism
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
I don't know if this guy
August 11, 2008 - 07:42 ET by Free ThinkerI don't know if this guy just isn't very educated or if he is just passing the propaganda of the left. The left in this country has always been the most racist, from the eugenics movement of the early progressives to the special rights they feel that minorities need to compete in society and the debacle of the "Great Society" liberals so admire. The only ones talking about race in this campaign so far has been Obama and the msm trying to bait McCain into making race an issue. And kudos to McCain for not biting. Conservatives have nothing to feel guilty about and that is what bothers people like Heileman so much.
I Think it's a Little Bit of Willful Ignorance...
August 11, 2008 - 08:24 ET by on-the-rocks(in not studying the history of the issue), but mostly it is passing on the Leftist propaganda. The ignorance can serve as a defense if he is confronted (Oh, I didn't know that the Democrats ran the South during the Jim Crow era).
Conservatives and Republicans do a poor job of explaining themselves (and their history), naively thinking the MSM is going to do the right thing and present both sides of the debate.
The "liberal" obsession with group identity is one of the things that nurtures stereotypes and racism/bigotry. When one looks at others as individuals first, as Conservatives should, stereotypes whither away.
It would be nice if once in a while, these "reporters" would do their job and ask someone such as Heilemann - "Where is your evidence for this assertion?"
the McCain campaign is
August 11, 2008 - 07:45 ET by Free Thinkerthe McCain campaign is playing, is playing with racial elements in a lot of their ads. I think there's a pretty good case to be made that they're doing that in very subtle and kind of careful ways.
Sorry to comment twice but this really irks me. This is the premise of Obama's campaign. Obama is black, therefore any criticism of Obama is racist. Americans aren't buying it.
FreeT
August 11, 2008 - 07:52 ET by MrShyYes. And what REALLY gnaws at liberals is, Republicans, for the most part, don't care one iota about race. That's what being truly being color blind is, and advocating a system that provides anyone, from anywhere, of any skin color, an opportunity for success and happiness in life.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Uneducated MR.S
August 11, 2008 - 08:01 ET by SemperrightMr. Shy
Obviously the liberal brain wa...I mean re education didn't take and you need to report for reprogramming.
It is racist to only provide opportunity, you have to have equal outcome reguardless of talent and ambition. Pfft opportunity, that ain't gonna fill no quotas.
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985
I guess all those democrats
August 11, 2008 - 08:20 ET by Jack BauerI guess all those democrats who didn't vote for the very impressive Republican candidate Michael Steele, must have been racists.
Michael has a tremendous intellect. He articulates conservative and Republican positions wsith great passion and vigor. He debates very well. And he makes Barack Obama look even more than the lightweight he truly is.
So why else would a white Democrat not vote for him? Has to be Racism.
All of that and he is funny
August 11, 2008 - 08:51 ET by USA4freedomAll of that and he is funny as well.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
I agree wholeheartedly
August 11, 2008 - 10:18 ET by ahusserFrom someone who voted for Steele and saw his own call him the most derogatory names. I also voted for Alan Keyes twice. The Republicans have been putting people of color in high places for a while now. Somehow the Dims overlook Thomas, Powell and Rice. It's party line and race is used only to divide and victimize on the left/Dim side.
That's their plan: white
August 11, 2008 - 08:09 ET by motherbeltThat's their plan: white women in an Obama ad....racist. All black people in an ad....racist. References to Obama's "community organizing"....racist. Criticism of his wife...racist (they can't stand strong black women).
And it's all so subtle that only Obama's people can detect it!
Barack Obama cannot truly be the "post-racial" candidate that he claims to be, until he can accept criticism like every other candidate!
This Thomas Sowell piece
August 11, 2008 - 13:04 ET by mattmThis Thomas Sowell piece from April nails it.
DUCT TAPE ALERT!!
August 11, 2008 - 07:57 ET by motherbeltOh, for crying out loud!!
I am sick to death of this.
The Democrats can't come up with anything racist to pin on McCain, so they predict that he will use racism as a tactic.
Maybe McCain should send his people out to claim that Obama will use the age issue to target him...oh, wait!! They already have!!
half-century of service...25 years as a Senator..lost his bearings....wandering around Florida.....oh, did I mention he's OLD??????
Conservative = Racism?
August 11, 2008 - 08:43 ET by goldenthroatYeah, right.
Since Osama Bama's World Appeasement Tour fell flat on it's face and all polls have indicated there was no spike at all in his popularity, the looney left know they have nothing else to resort to outside of character assasination. They will brand anything and anyone in the way of their savior and king's march toward the White House as racist. It's all they have left - and it's going to backfire badly.
And the DNC is about to be turned into a three-ring circus - Shmillary's clowns are waiting in the wings to throw a major monkey wrench into Obamessiah's engine - remember gang, she never said she "quit" the race - she'll merely "suspended" it!
I'll bet a steak dinner on it!
Interesting, isn't it, that this left-coast, bleeding-heart, 'do as I say, not as I do' liberal moron doesn't mention Jackson, Sharpton, Wright, et al, as racists!
"I think we're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre
→ Goldenthroat
August 11, 2008 - 08:50 ET by Cool ArrowAnd Hillary is bound to be seething at the thought John Edwards may have cost her the nomination outright.
Wonder if Silky Pony's dalliance has got Hillary at all stirred up?
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Cool Arrow...
August 11, 2008 - 08:54 ET by goldenthroatTouche', my friend - touche'!
Like I've been saying - get the TiVos ready - this DNC is going to be one for the highlight film!
"I think we're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre
→ Better yet, GT
August 11, 2008 - 08:58 ET by Cool ArrowInvest now in Orville Reddenbacher futures.
. . . Most notable line from Ms. Clinton's speech last night was "If these men could keep it in their pants, maybe a woman would have a chance in politics"
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Cool Arrow, don't forget...
August 11, 2008 - 10:11 ET by goldenthroatThe Goobers, Peanuts (with shells), Good and Plentys and the Rasinettes!
"I think we're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre
→ Now we're cookin' GT
August 11, 2008 - 10:16 ET by Cool ArrowThrow in an RC Cola and a Moon Pie and we're all set.
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Bingo
August 11, 2008 - 09:52 ET by AndanteYou can bet Hillary's people knew about and planned to use the Edwards story in October creating a slam-dunk victory for her but...that upstart new guy (is that racist?) came along and ruined the grand plan.
"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama
It's OK Andante
August 11, 2008 - 10:00 ET by Cool ArrowYou didn't call him a "skinny upstart" so the judges have ruled "not racist"
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At the urging of the
August 11, 2008 - 10:49 ET by MassConservAt the urging of the opposition, a further review has found that since "upstart" is too similar to "uppity" and "new guy" alludes to inexperience, the judges' previous ruling is incorrect and therefor overturned, the comment is indeed racist.
[/sarc]
→ After further review
August 11, 2008 - 11:01 ET by Cool ArrowGood call ref.
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Mea culpa
August 11, 2008 - 16:52 ET by AndantePlease forgive my racist comment and thank you for pointing out the error of my ways.
"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama
It's all good.
August 12, 2008 - 08:15 ET by MassConservYour contrition is noted.
Since we're all racists for not deigning to bow to Obama's greatness, you are in good company. :-)
White-guilting Barack into the presidency.
August 11, 2008 - 07:59 ET by Hunter12This is such a tranparent piece of puffery. If you don't want to run the risk of being labeled a racist, vote for Barack Obama. That is the only way to prove you are not.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Another point to remember...
August 11, 2008 - 08:01 ET by unkeeafI've seen several estimates that for 8% - 12% of white people race is the most important factor in their decision. Is there any doubt those number are triple or even higher for black Americans? I mean, give me a freaking break! You want to tell me white people are hung up on race and completely ignore the fact that blacks aren't obsessed with the same issue? Quite honestly, the fact that so many blacks use the issue of race as a constant crutch may be one reason some white people would give pause before voting for a black American.
More evidence from the left that facts only get in the way of a good, politically correct story.
Don't you know?
August 11, 2008 - 08:13 ET by motherbeltDon't you know? Blacks can't be racist!
<sarc>
Oh yeah...
August 11, 2008 - 08:18 ET by unkeeafI forgot... It's OK to hate on Whitey...
Sorry, please disregard my previous post...
How bigoted!!!
August 11, 2008 - 08:17 ET by c5thenHeilemann assumes that "conservative" equals racist and the more conservative a person is the more racist they are. That itself is a bigoted assumtion and says volumes about Heilemann.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Great point, c5!
August 11, 2008 - 08:24 ET by motherbeltCouldn't be said better!
delete double
August 11, 2008 - 08:24 ET by motherbeltdelete double
What about the blacks who vote for Obama? are they racist too??
August 11, 2008 - 08:29 ET by political mavenThe question they are afraid to ask.
I'll believe that racism
August 11, 2008 - 08:37 ET by ThisnThatI'll believe that racism isn't a factor whenever the percentage of blacks polling for Obama falls below 95%.
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
→ John Heilemann
August 11, 2008 - 08:39 ET by Cool ArrowHeilemann doesn't have his superstitions mixed up at all.
I wouldn't put up with a pig like that rubbing my head for good luck.
At some point Obama needs to put a stop to white Democrats playing the "pity him" game for him.
If Obama's a man of any sense of self worth at all, of any sense of personal accomplishment at all, he's disgusted by it.
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These people amaze me. They
August 11, 2008 - 08:48 ET by USA4freedomThese people amaze me. They talk about race all the time while pointing the fingers at us. He brings up the Willy Horton ad, Al Gore was the first to use that, sorry.. he is a Democrat. Opps..
I have one question that no reporter EVER brings up. If over 95% of blacks vote for Obama, and I’m sure 95% of blacks are not Democratic, then why is that not racist????? So we are back to that same lame excuse, well minorities “can’t be racist” it’s only the majority that can be racist!
This guy is the perfect liberal, judge us on our intensions. We say: put more money in schools (it’s for the children..//uh..unions). but don’t test because we don’t want to see results.
Some of the better ideas of Democrats:
- Jim Crow established/supported by Dems
- Dem Supreme Court, "Plessy v. Ferguson", separate but equal facilities deemed constitutional
- Internment of Japanese-Americans (FDR)
- Without Rep. support, Civil Rights Act and other civil rights legislation would not have passed. Segregationist Dems (Eastland, Fulbright, Gore Sr., Russell, Talmadge, et al) tried to filibuster
- Who stood in the schoolhouse door in Alabama? A Democrat, (Wallace), of course. (and they still do)
Black Democrats under Clinton, (after receiving some 90% of the black vote) Ron Brown.. and….? Black Republicans under Bush, (after receiving only some where around 10% of the vote) Secretary of State Colin Powell and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, to General Services Administration director Steve Perry and Kay James, head of the Office of Personnel Management. All this and the people we put up as judges, running for state and national office, example: Clarence Thomas, Steel, Blackwell and Swann. On the otherhand in the Democratic side of the debate you get: McCall (ran for Mayor of NYC) and the late Maynard Jackson (DNC Chairman hopeful) all tossed under the bus for…drum roll please.. white guys..
You being poor or uneducated does not make me richer or smarter. It will give us.. higher taxes to help support the poor. Watching blacks in poverty does not put one dime inmy.. pocket, but it will take dollars out of my wallet for: welfare, food stamps, etc. More proof that Liberal ideas do not work.
Give a man a fish and your taxes go up
Teach a man to fish and your taxes go down.
I think the dumbest part is that blacks are so predictable in their voting, that their votes never come into play, so the Democrats never have to give them a voice for the most part.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
→ Sure they do USA
August 11, 2008 - 08:53 ET by Cool ArrowThey'll let Jesse Jackson have a say because he has the message they want presented to "the folk"
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True.. Ronald
August 11, 2008 - 09:46 ET by USA4freedomTrue..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
There you go again
August 11, 2008 - 16:47 ET by DEVILDOCMOMThere you go again USA, making sense and thinking things through. You have made many excellent points. Plus, I could not agree more with the statement by heilmann who“closes with his condescending crack about Obama's background being alien to "much of Wonder Bread America”.
That statement fits me to a “T”. Someone, bho, who would sit and listen to wright and pfleger for years, who would befriend those who bombed the Pentagon (bill ayres), have as his mentors those who are communists, and who also has rashid Khalid (a plo supporter) hold a fundraiser for him is VERY alien to me.
Oh, did I mention he is black? LOL
Devil, I agree.. Wonder
August 11, 2008 - 18:25 ET by USA4freedomDevil, I agree.. Wonder Bread..
Wonder Bread America.. would that be the America where we stood up and said the Pledge of Allegiance? (with our hand over our heart and meant it!)
The America where we had to duck under our desk as kids with the threat of Nuclear War?
The America where we want “our country to win the war”?
The America where we put a man on the moon, when only one other country could even put men into space?
The America that sent men to fight on foreign soil to die for other peoples freedom?
The America that lines up to give blood when 9/11 hit.
The America that would pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.. Kennedy.
How odd is it that the last line is a Democrat, it can not begin to show how far the Democrat party has fallen. I would say they are closer to a croissant, a stale one at that.
Well I for one, in the Wonder Bread America can say one thing, I love this great country, and the great people, and our traditions, and would go down swinging to defend her.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Again,
August 14, 2008 - 18:03 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI am right with you.
"At some point Obama needs
August 11, 2008 - 09:07 ET by HeavyChevy"At some point Obama needs to put a stop to white Democrats playing the "pity him" game for him."
Sorry CA that is not going to happen. As my brother so correctly stated "there is power in oppression" If you could have anything in the world with minimum effort and all you have to say is "woe is me" all the time would you actually give that up? When it comes to race the liberals make sure they cover all of their bases to get what they feel life owes them.
1. When a white man/woman vote "conservative or republican" he or she is by all accounts racist, closed minded buffoons."
2. When a black man/woman vote "conservative or republican" he/she is considered a sellout, self hater, trying to act white.
3. when a white man/woman vote democratic they are free thinkers open to all, they understand the universe and all is well.
4. When a black man/woman vote Republican we best be on our toes because the "re-educators" will be looking for us to "adjust" our attitude "by any means necessary."
Sorry the libs has a great gravy train going and it has "guilt" and "laziness" as its engineer and until we as conservatives become more vocal I don't see that train being derailed anytime soon.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
→ Chevy
August 11, 2008 - 09:13 ET by Cool ArrowHave you been reading Elder, Sowell, Williams, and B.T. Washington again?
You know they aren't on the "approved list".
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Can't help myself
August 11, 2008 - 09:27 ET by HeavyChevyI'm a rebel without a clue :-)
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
3. when a white man/woman
August 11, 2008 - 11:20 ET by dmntd1This is the one that bugs me the most. I come from a family of moonbats and they are some of the MOST close-minded, pre-judgemental (prejudiced implies race, they pre-judge EVERYTHING) people I've ever known.
My work takes me into the public frequently, where I often meet moonbatty people. The fact that I can belief anything remotely right of center gets me ostracized from most gatherings. THIS is open-minded?!?
A VERY liberal, black female friend of mine even made the comment that when she sees a young mixed-race couple (bm/wf), her immediate thought is "I wonder how he's taking advantage of her". THIS is open-minded?!?
Even after I decimated one former-client's secretary's argument regarding Roe-v-Wade, she STILL won't talk to me. THIS is open-minded?!?
Tangential side-note: We were watching the Olympic opening ceremony, and they cut to a clip of President Bush, and he happened to check his watch. My family went ballistic about how bored me must be, how he must have something more important, etc etc. Then, they cut to him again, and he was tapping his small U.S. flag on his thigh. They tried to compare that to burning the flag. Then, one of them mentioned "no, he desecrated the flag when he took the oath of office". I wanted to scream..... outnumbered 8-1 though, so I bit it back.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Dmntd1...
August 11, 2008 - 15:33 ET by HeavyChevyWhen I made that statement that is the perception that they (libs/democrats) are trying to imply to us and the world. Trust me its further from the truth.
"The Democrats can't come
August 11, 2008 - 08:44 ET by chessplayer"The Democrats can't come up with anything racist to pin on McCain, so they predict that he will use racism as a tactic."
They`ve already pinned racism on McCain. They claim the Hilton/Paris ad and the moses parting the sea ad are racist. Thats the lefts strategy. They will claim anything and everything McCain does or says is racist. And they will claim anyone who does`nt vote for The One is a racist.
While America slept
August 11, 2008 - 08:49 ET by nkviking75It's fortunate that a lot of us Wonder Bread eaters were still in bed at the time, especially outside the Eastern Time Zone. Libs are selling this fiction hard.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
I have never been a racist,
August 11, 2008 - 09:06 ET by pocomocoI have never been a racist, but I think the MSM are going to make me into one.
Thank you MSM, I didn't know what I was missing in life!
→ No they won't
August 11, 2008 - 09:09 ET by Cool Arrowyou won't go that way any more than I would.
Keepin' the faith.
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Poco, Hating stupidity and
August 11, 2008 - 09:12 ET by Hunter12Poco, Hating stupidity and those who spread its gospel doesn't make you a racist, so don't worry. The MSM can't stand the fact that they can't funneled the kool-aid down your throat.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Don't let them win...
August 11, 2008 - 09:23 ET by HeavyChevythat's all the MSM want more ammo for thier tripe.
Look I was born and raised in NYC before moving to NC in the late 90's. The only white people I ever saw growing up was either the police or the fire department, but I was raised never...EVER judge anyone based on their skin color but by their actions. If someone treats you well you return the favor, if someone helps you, you return the favor no questions asked. Pocomoco if you was on the side of the road in the driving rain trying to change your tire I would be the guy making sure no one hits you, and if anyone asked why did I do it I will tell them "if you have to ask then you don't know god."
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
I have never been a
August 11, 2008 - 10:38 ET by motherbeltI have never been a racist, but I think the MSM are going to make me into one. -pocomoco
Yes, they are, and without you changing a thing!
Just like "obesity" got redefined, and people who never were before found themselves in that category, so "racist" has been redefined and now includes remarks like "skinny" and "arrogant."
Ann Coulter had it right when she said it's tough to argue with liberals, because they keep expanding the list of things you can't say.
Poco,
August 11, 2008 - 13:54 ET by RESTLESS 1I made the same comment a few weeks back. The fact is, we are racists as defined by the left. By the true definition of "racist", the left are the true racists. They believe that minorities are inferior, and cannot succeed by and of themselves.
Someone said above that it in no way benfits us "evil" white folk to keep minorities unsuccessful. That is spot on. If for only selfish reasons, we should be making sure that EVERYBODY can fend for themselves, so that we will not have to fend for them.
Now, if hating ingnorance, laziness, and recalcitrance make me "racist", then "racist" I am. Of course, those three qualities know no racial bounds.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless, you are spot on
August 11, 2008 - 15:12 ET by USA4freedomRestless, you are spot on when you say:
If for only selfish reasons, we should be making sure that EVERYBODY can fend for themselves, so that we will not have to fend for them.
If everyone were rowing the boat it would be easy. But if half are ridding for free......
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
They Just Csn't wait!
August 11, 2008 - 09:16 ET by ChasvsSo the MSM biggots can't wait for the republicans to demonstrate their racist tendancy's so they need to do it for them!
The ONLY people talking about RACE in this election are the Democrats!
Hey Obama, we don't need your stinkin CHANGE!
→ This is it?
August 11, 2008 - 09:23 ET by Cool ArrowRemember that 'National discussion on race" Sen. Obama promised when his preacher went national?
Is this that promised discussion?
If Obama's got something to say, he better say it. Much as I don't like Obama's ideology, I can't imagine him buying off on this pity party thrown by Heilemann.
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Sorry but...
August 11, 2008 - 09:33 ET by HeavyChevyObama is bought and paid for. I just hate the fact that after the elections no matter who wins there is going to be a bigger wedge between blacks and whites as ever before.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
→ Hope not Heavy
August 11, 2008 - 09:52 ET by Cool ArrowI might find myself under a dogpile here, but an Obama Presidency might be a good thing for black America.
Proof of what's possible is a hard thing to deny.
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I don’t think that anyone
August 11, 2008 - 15:17 ET by USA4freedomI don’t think that anyone has put much thought into is (think of when a city wins a sporting championship in a city) will blacks riot if he does not win, or will they riot if he does, or does it matter we are going to see riots..?
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
I don't want to see that happen but...
August 11, 2008 - 15:47 ET by HeavyChevyI would rather have a weeks worth of violence then 4 years worth of chaos.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
Hmmmm
August 11, 2008 - 15:41 ET by HeavyChevyWe will see, but I would "call" your dog pile and raise you a beating I will recieve for saying this if this goes out to the crazy left blogs.
Having a black man as president would be great but Obama to me is not that black man. This is very dangerous territory, Obama has always attracted the wrong blacks and as soon as his foot touches the Oval office all hell is going to break loose.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
For the most part, the
August 11, 2008 - 09:30 ET by bassndudeFor the most part, the issue of racism is brought out into the open by those who are racist. Or so has been my experience. Racists see racism in all issues they deal with. Never mind that the answers are in "black and white", (good and bad). They always see it as black or white, (as in people).
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Good point
August 11, 2008 - 09:42 ET by HeavyChevyWe as humans are capable of both great and terrible things, and to sit there and point out one race in particular as bieng the ultimate evil is not only ignorant but stupid.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
John Heilemann and prejudice
August 11, 2008 - 09:46 ET by needleSo basically John Heilemann draws upon his own prejudices about people he really does not know to explain what he does not understand.
Oh, but he is not biased, right?
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
I agree with the media:
August 11, 2008 - 09:55 ET by usinkoreaI agree with the media: whether or not Obama wins the election will say more about the state of American society than it will about Obama as a candidate --
-- specifically --- it will say more about the state of mainstreammedia in American society:
If Obama wins, despite his lack of experience, his voting record that places him far to the left of average American voters, and his very contreversial past with figures like Rev. Wright and his church, and his other radical friends ---- the US media can throw a legitimate big victory party toasting how they controlled and won a national election...
If Obama loses, despite all of the above, the media should (but won't) recognize just how much their position within American society has eroded.
Inotherwords --- given how large the effort to get Obama elected has been in the big MSM, if he loses, it will expose how irrelevant they have become in American society.
He is correct... Racism will contribute
August 11, 2008 - 10:09 ET by CapedConservativeCapedConservative
The part he misses is that it WON'T be conservatives... they wouldn't vote for the guy anyway. It will be democrat racists that contribute to his 50 of 50 loss....
CC
talk is cheap
August 11, 2008 - 10:35 ET by rgr375It seems to me that the Dems have a real problem on their hands. If Democratic voters don't turn out for their candidate and we have a McCain victory, the MSM will surely blame it on America's continuing problems with racism. They will wonder why Joe-Bob and his NASCAR buddies couldn't see past their generations of hatred and elect the man that they (the MSM) want in the White House. They won't even consider the possibility that perhaps it was Obama's lack of experience, or the fact that his voting record shows his far left ideology, are the reasons behind his defeat. It will be "all racism, all the time". We'll have renewed vigor in the step of Jesse and Al, and the MSM will have plenty of airtime for them to tell us all about the inability of the average American to let go their bigotry. And most certainly they will blame John McCain and his campaign for anything and everything they can dream up to portray him as a racist.
The problem for the Dems is here in the results. They are the ones responsible for marking the ballot for their candidate. Obama is not running as the Republican for President. He's running as the Democrat for President, and if the Democratic voters don't give him the support he needs to defeat John McCain, then they can only look to themselves and wonder why. The MSM likes to paint GOP as the country club types who refuse to let "others" in, or as rednecks who shoot first and ask questions later. Alternately the Dems are portrayed as the party of inclusion where any and all are welcome. Well as they say, "talk is cheap". It's time to see where the Democratic voters end up on this election. And for what it's worth, I predict it won't be close. McCain in 08.
RGR, You are correct that
August 11, 2008 - 11:16 ET by Hunter12RGR, You are correct that they won't consider these things:
"They won't even consider the possibility that perhaps it was Obama's lack of experience, or the fact that his voting record shows his far left ideology, are the reasons behind his defeat."
The reason they won't consider them is that they have done nothing to expose this man's lack of presidential credentials. In fact, they've done just the opposite. He gets to portray himself as a uniter, reaching across the aisle to conservatives, when, in fact, as you stated, he had voted a far left party line on all issues until he decided to run for office. He was depicted as a political savant on his European and Middel East excursion. He was actually only able to go because the plans that he vehemently opposed, like the surge, have been wildly successful. If anyone has been solely dependent on the MSM's creation and coverage of this man, they'd be stupid not to vote for him. With a word and a wave of his hand, he's going to insure everyone, solve the energy crisis, bring world peace, and stop hunger.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill