Are reporters in the business of reporting fact or rumor? Andrea Mitchell, for one, doesn't scruple to circulate "scuttlebutt" that if true would be deeply damaging to John McCain.
Barack Obama's cancellation of plans to visit injured military members at bases in Germany has drawn considerable attention and criticism. On today's Morning Joe, Mitchell passed along an Obama-campaign inspired rumor that McCain used his Pentagon connections to sabotage the Obama visit.
View video here.
ANDREA MITCHELL: The background on the military flap is that they [Obama campaign] had clearly planned a trip to Ramstein [AFB]. They were planning to visit the injured troops. And then the Pentagon explained that they couldn't go as part of a political trip. The Obama campaign thought that they could go, leave the press corps on the tarmac, and then take off with military escort and make this one last visit. As he did in Iraq, by the way. He visited a casualty unit in the Green Zone, without photographers, as part of the congressional delegation. But the military said that the rules are that he could only go as part of a previously-arranged congressional delegation, to Ramstein.
Clearly, people in the campaign are really angry. They had wanted this to be the final stop on the trip here in Germany, and to do it without the press corps, just to do it on his own. But the objections of the military are that he is now being staffed by campaign aides, not by his Senate staff, who are the people of course with him when he went with Hagel and Jack Reed in Iraq. So, you know, the anger here in the campaign is pretty intense at the Pentagon. They feel that the military are drawing some lines--they're not saying this publicly of course--but drawing lines that they might have drawn for other people. He was planning to just go by himself, not with cameras, not with any entourage, as he had done in Walter Reed in the past in Washington, as he did in Iraq. Joe.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: It's curious, if that's the case, why the campaign didn't make that announcement yesterday, and allowed stories to go like this. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of he said/she said in the days to come about this.
MITCHELL: But they thought that they couldn't win. Yeah. They thought that they were, you know, you know, no-win situation, that the Pentagon, perhaps the military with cooperation from some Republican operatives and, that's the sort of scuttlebutt, that there have been some foreign policy advisers of John McCain with connections in the Pentagon who had something to do with this. But that is, perhaps, just the normal political paranoia of the season.
Is this that journalistic standard of NBC/MSNBC? To propagate highly-inflammatory rumors, damaging to one candidate in a presidential race? Apparently so--at least when the target of the rumors is the Republican presidential candidate.
Oh, and according to Mitchell, the Obama campaign is "not saying this publicly." How much more public does it get than to say it, as the Obma campaign apparently did, to Andrea Mitchell, American TV's most prominent foreign affairs correspondent? And nice touch by Mitchell, after propagating the rumor, to say that, well, after all, it might just be political paranoia.
ANDREA MITCHELL: The background on the military flap is that they [Obama campaign] had clearly planned a trip to Ramstein [AFB]. They were planning to visit the injured troops. And then the Pentagon explained that they couldn't go as part of a political trip. The Obama campaign thought that they could go, leave the press corps on the tarmac, and then take off with military escort and make this one last visit. As he did in Iraq, by the way. He visited a casualty unit in the Green Zone, without photographers, as part of the congressional delegation. But the military said that the rules are that he could only go as part of a previously-arranged congressional delegation, to Ramstein.
Clearly, people in the campaign are really angry. They had wanted this to be the final stop on the trip here in Germany, and to do it without the press corps, just to do it on his own. But the objections of the military are that he is now being staffed by campaign aides, not by his Senate staff, who are the people of course with him when he went with Hagel and Jack Reed in Iraq. So, you know, the anger here in the campaign is pretty intense at the Pentagon. They feel that the military are drawing some lines--they're not saying this publicly of course--but drawing lines that they might have drawn for other people. He was planning to just go by himself, not with cameras, not with any entourage, as he had done in Walter Reed in the past in Washington, as he did in Iraq. Joe.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: It's curious, if that's the case, why the campaign didn't make that announcement yesterday, and allowed stories to go like this. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of he said/she said in the days to come about this.
MITCHELL: But they thought that they couldn't win. Yeah. They thought that they were, you know, you know, no-win situation, that the Pentagon, perhaps the military with cooperation from some Republican operatives and, that's the sort of scuttlebutt, that there have been some foreign policy advisers of John McCain with connections in the Pentagon who had something to do with this. But that is, perhaps, just the normal political paranoia of the season.
Is this that journalistic standard of NBC/MSNBC? To propagate highly-inflammatory rumors, damaging to one candidate in a presidential race? Apparently so--at least when the target of the rumors is the Republican presidential candidate.
Note Mitchell's claim that the Obama campaign isn't making its allegations "publicly." Of course not: just to American TV's most prominent foreign affairs correspondent. And nice of Andrea to suggest this might just be political paranoia . . . after she's let the scuttlebutt out of the barn.
On the other hand . . . could this be a defense of Andrea: she wasn't circulating a totally unsourced rumor. She did let it be known that it was coming from the Obama campaign. And so that is a "fact" in its own way, and one that could come back to bite Obama if the allegation is debunked. Then again, how does McCain prove a negative?
H/t Jamesin619
BONUS COVERAGE: Berlin Speech Like Live-Aid
Joe Scarborough got off a good line, commenting on Barack's big day in Berlin.
JOE SCARBOROUGH: I was very inspired by it; I think it was very good for America. But at the same time I feel the way I felt the day after Live-Aid, instead of the way I felt the after, say, Ronald Reagan's speech on the 40th anniversary of Normandy.
Note: Scarborough's comment actually came before Mitchel's rumor-mongering, but I've placed it after the Mitchell segment in the video clip given the significance of what Mitchell did.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.




















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But of Course it's McCain's Fault!
July 25, 2008 - 06:38 ET by ChasvsBHO aka messiah the lesser, screws up and it's McCain's fault? But of course!
The media now is turning to unfounded rumors to bash McCain and cover for their lord and master Obama!
Democrats ALWAYS blame Republicans
July 25, 2008 - 08:41 ET by kgDemocrats ALWAYS blame Republicans regardless of what it is. Obama and his camp are big on preemptive whining and laying blame. He has swallowed the imaginary 'vast right wing conspiracy' hook, line and sinker. You think he whines and blames others now wait and see how bad it gets if he is elected.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
and this surprises...
July 25, 2008 - 06:40 ET by theduck6Who?
Even if the Michelle Obama "whitey" video exists it wouldn't make a difference. ...no no, even if Barack is right there with her waving his arms , ala Rev Wright video, it doen't matter. People are blinded.
Last time we were so gaga for change we got Carter.
God help us.
Love the caption on a picture on Malkin's site.
"Ich bin ein beginner"
There's a reason liberals suck.
July 25, 2008 - 06:51 ET by superconIt's their utter and complete dishonesty sometimes.For Andrea Mitchell to provide cover for Barack's snub of the wounded troops by tossing out a lie about McCain is absolutely disgusting.
Oh, and according to Mitchell, the Obama campaign is "not saying this publicly."
Why would they have to say it when they have Andrea saying it for them.That way she can be assured that it gets on television and there are no finger prints from the Obama campaign.
Oh no...she's not in the tank.
Victory in Iraq.
Liberals suck.
McCain for Preznint.
Well you certainly can
July 25, 2008 - 06:54 ET by MidAmericaWell you certainly can tell that obama has his share of old clinton advisors. Whenever billy screwed up they always found a way to blame someone else. ...and the media dutifully ran the story.
Meet The Press
July 25, 2008 - 07:01 ET by TexndocWell, I saw this morning Mr. O is running for cover this week-end on a full hour of "Meet The Press". Honestly, is this man not fearful of media overload before he's even nominated? Me thinks that there are some "internal polls" his camp knows about but doesn't want to talk about, so they sail to friendly waters (i.e., NBC). Face it, if Obama implodes, who are #1 and #2 on the list to implode with him (#1 Bill Richardson #2 NBC).
that's the sort of
July 25, 2008 - 07:01 ET by motherbeltthat's the sort of scuttlebutt,
Ah, yes, the old "some say" in another form....
Just get it out there and float it....doesn't matter if it's false, you've covered yourself by admitting it's a rumor.
Just like the Vicki Iseman thing...the NYT actually reported it as a rumor of a suspicion from years ago....but they got it out there, didn't they?
Nice work, Andrea.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
We can now officially call
July 25, 2008 - 07:01 ET by pbanks7We can now officially call it "The SeeBS Evening Scuttlebutt."
Most of the platitudes I heard the Omamessiah spew in Berlin were possible in spite of, not because of, liberal policies. If it was up to liberals, we'd still have the USSR.
Since when has there been any unity in Europe, let alone the UN?
MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe, then confirming it with a poll.
pbanks, we will all be
July 25, 2008 - 07:49 ET by motherbeltpbanks, we will all be united, when Obama is King of the World!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
motherbelt, This breaking
July 25, 2008 - 08:32 ET by Karmamotherbelt,
This breaking documentary from the UK pretty-well confirms your prediction.
The reason Obama canceled
July 25, 2008 - 07:02 ET by coffee260According to Jim Geraghty of NRO's, The Campaign Spot, here's the reason why the visit to the Troops was canceled.
Quite possibly could it
July 25, 2008 - 07:24 ET by Seabeach4348Quite possibly could it have been the Troops themselves who objected to this phony messiah and his entourage of fawning suck-wads visiting them and using the event as more propaganda to show just how much BHO "cares"?
Or maybe they just couldn't find enough Troops to play "Pretend and Make Nice" with the next world saviour after listening to him pile dung on their country as a crowd-pleaser for our European "friends" and all the other "people of the world" who like to trash us?
Or maybe they just said sorry we don't want them here. Get lost?
Obama Blows . . . Off The Troops
July 25, 2008 - 08:12 ET by NoMoreClintonshttp://confederateya...
This interesting link has already been posted but it's worth a look if you haven't seen it. The troops, with a few exceptions, were apparently underwhelmed by Nobama's visit.
"When one of Obama's
July 25, 2008 - 12:44 ET by MassConserv"When one of Obama's campaign staff was
told he or she would be denied access, the visit was canceled."
Hmmm... Maybe this was the staffer that is usually on the other end of his "can't hear myself talk" ear-piece and they realized they forgot to send in the fee to upgrade to the GMRS license on their 2-way radio.
How big is Landstuhl? Maybe the radio reception would have been too poor for them to just hang out on the base perimeter.
I'm just sayin'. ;-)
:-)
July 25, 2008 - 14:54 ET by UnsaneLandstuhl is on the top of a hill. Radio reception should have been just fine. :-)
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Hmmm... Well, maybe they
July 28, 2008 - 08:51 ET by MassConservHmmm... Well, maybe they just didn't trust him to be on his own. :-)
projection
July 25, 2008 - 07:04 ET by forestAndrea Mitchell was the one publically griping that she couldn't get a back stage pass while Obama was on military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If anyone outside Obama's campaign had a role in having the base visits cancelled, it was her. But I suspect it was just a low priority for the Obama anyway.
Mitchell's rumor-mongering
July 25, 2008 - 10:19 ET by BacchusHotAir has the explanation and guess what, this isn't the first time Mitchell has run into the military's "no photo-ops" rule.
[link fixed]
Andrea's next trick will be
July 25, 2008 - 07:19 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarto go into a movie theater showing Batman and tell the manager "I overheard from someone that there is a fire in there!"
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
She is just still having a
July 25, 2008 - 07:25 ET by Guy Arthur ThomasShe is just still having a PMS (is that possible at her age?) fit with the military. Boo hoo. This is meaningless drivel that will only embarrass her. But rarely does a LEFTY LIB have the capacity for reflection and shame when the humiliation is warranted.
Most notable is she cited NO ONE, just scuttlebutt. Wow, journalistic genius!
Andrea Mitchell: "I have here with me, Mr. Scuttlebutt. Yes, he's an @ss but so am I and yes, you can't see him or hear him and in fact no one at any time has seen him or heard him or really even knows how to find him, but take my word, this is what he is saying".
A side note. I realize this has nothing to do with her qualifications as a news reporter/journalist/commentator...but what is the h3ll happened to Andrea Mitchell's face? Would someone PLEASE call a doctor, and preferable a plastic surgeon (and not any of the last 3 she apparently picked out of the Yellow Pages).
Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.
"Would someone PLEASE call
July 25, 2008 - 08:21 ET by IgnatzJFahrquar"Would someone PLEASE call a doctor, and preferable a plastic surgeon
(and not any of the last 3 she apparently picked out of the Yellow
Pages)."
Maybe Greta can give her a few tips.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
What ever happened to "equal time?"
July 25, 2008 - 07:44 ET by CrashI guess the MSM are reporting equal ... just not equitably? Remember during the beginning of the war when some muslim a--hole (a black dude) tossed a grenade into a tent? In a sense this is what the press is doing for Barrack Hussein Obama in an effort to sabotage McCain's campaign.
Mitchell is a disgrace to
July 25, 2008 - 07:52 ET by notinstlMitchell is a disgrace to journalism profession...she should work for the AP.
Mitchell should get her
July 25, 2008 - 07:55 ET by marvlMitchell should get her facts straight. Bush is responsible for this. As he is for global warming, world hunger, the price of oil, and cheating by NBA referees.
I have yet to see a TV news reporter whose intelligence couldn't be improved by surgically removing their tongue. Andrea Mitchell is a dramatic case in point.
Marvl
July 25, 2008 - 08:29 ET by ricklailYou forgot to blame Bush for the Patriots taping their opponents and Hurricane Dolly.
Be kind to your kids. They'll be choosing your nursing home.
Wake up
July 25, 2008 - 08:00 ET by cocodrieThis is just another example of the radical left wing using old communist strategies used against free countries. Spread lies about your enemy, make yourself out to be the victim, and accuse your enemy of doing to you what you are doing to them. Rest assured that the radical left wing sees conservatives as their deadly enemy worthy of destruction at any cost, even the loss of our country and our freedom.
Good point cocodrie, that
July 25, 2008 - 10:50 ET by ConservativeRexGood point cocodrie, that is exactly what it is. Neo-Leninism, tell a lie often enough and loud enough and eventually the people will believe you. That is what they are doing to a "T".
And that is why their ratings are sinking (for the alphabet networks) and readership is going down the drain (for print media).
Ass ociated (with terrorists) Pr ass
July 25, 2008 - 08:28 ET by ScrapironMitchell is undercover for the AP. No one else would tell the truth during the Messiah's visit to Tn so Mitchell picked up the slack and made a worldwide press release, 'there are a whole bunch of Rednecks in NE Tn and SW Va,' it's real Redneck country, or maybe it is the gateway to Redneckism.
What another freakin idiot or maybe she has a medical excuse. She and the freak Peeeloshi are sharing the same Botox injections and it's going streight into the skull and shrinking the already pea size brain.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
All the indications are
July 25, 2008 - 08:37 ET by Right2thePointAll the indications are there that if this is what will be coming out of the press during an Obama administration that the country will be blinded as to what is going on unless we read it from some foreign source that somehow doesn't get shut out.
Is it just me?
July 25, 2008 - 09:08 ET by americaneagleIs it just me, or does this feel like the same old same from the liberals? Something doesn't go your way and you put on the mantle of victimhood; in this case the "victimizer" is McCain and the Pentagon for not letting President-not-Elect Obama use the injured troops as another campaign prop. If that was the case, then good for the Pentagon! Our wounded troops deserve more than than to be used to promote anyone's political ambitions.
Complete Horsepoop.
July 25, 2008 - 09:09 ET by heldmywThe military will not allow troops, and particularly wounded troops to be used as a backdrop for political gain.
When Barack couldn't make hay with a fat photo op, he went shopping instead.
The man is as shallow, crass and un-presidential as they come.
Are reporters in the
July 25, 2008 - 09:21 ET by Jack BauerWell, when it comes to Democrats like John Edwards it's in the business of not reporting anything.
UNTIL it will be forced to pretty soon when the first cable network cracks. I'm assuming.
Here's how it's playing in
July 25, 2008 - 10:05 ET by QueenMumHere's how it's playing in Sweet Home Chicago.
All I heard yesterday was that the trip was cancelled because it was determined to be "inappropriate". Ya think? And isn't it typical of the Obamananiacs in the MsM to glom onto a conspiracy theory with the Pentagon as the source. Both Obama and his staff are clueless about protocol and don't seem to want to be bothered with checking in advance if a planned "visit" is appropriate. Or else they know perfectly well what the parameters are and choose to ignore them.
I agree that our wounded warriors would find it difficult to make nice with Mr. "I was against going to Iraq".
Evil Spirit
July 25, 2008 - 10:07 ET by CellaI hold up a cross involuntarily every time Andrea comes on air.
The press and cameras would not have been allowed
July 25, 2008 - 11:28 ET by c5thenBut Obama could still have visited by himself and told them "thank you"if he wanted.
What really happened was that when he found out that he couldn't use it as another campaign photo-op, he canceled the visit because he really didn't care about the wounded troops, only in using them for his political gain.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Precisely
July 25, 2008 - 14:58 ET by UnsaneThis is exactly what I think would happen...the politician, no matter who it is, would meet the wounded, but the photographers would remain behind. Maybe, possibly, a photographer from the PA office would be there because that photographer would know what to take pictures of and what not to take pictures of.
This only encourages my inclination towards cynicism.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
"It's Underdog ... dog!"
July 25, 2008 - 11:34 ET by CrashIf history has taught us anything American's tend to cheer for the underdog. Republican's should have learned by their congressional upset in 2006 that American's don't like cocky, arrogant, preachy, money grubbing politicians. If the press had a collective I.Q. over that of a squirrel they'd back McCain to ruin his chances; much like Chris Matthew's did when he backed McCain in 2000, going as far as calling him a "Maverick."
Republican 'operatives' at work again...
July 25, 2008 - 12:17 ET by SickofLibsWell, rules ARE rules, as they say. And there is no bigger rule-follower than the Messiah, right Andrea?
"He was planning to just go by himself, not with cameras, not with any entourage."
Anyone who can seriously say they believe this for one second, please report for your Journeyman Ignoramus ID Card.
Mitchell says "perhaps
July 25, 2008 - 15:58 ET by ThisnThatMitchell says
"perhaps the military with cooperation from some Republican operatives and, that's the sort of scuttlebutt, that there have been some foreign policy advisers of John McCain with connections in the Pentagon who had something to do with this"
I say: "perhaps the Obama campaign with cooperation from some MSNBC reporters and, that's the sort of scuttlebutt, that there have been some liberally-biased supporters of Barrack Obama with connections in MSNBC who had something to do with spreading this vile lie"
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This in the tank for SOBama
July 25, 2008 - 21:51 ET by Delsawitch is out of control and out of her mind.
SOBama could have gone to visit troops in hospital if he had wanted to.
He simply had to leave the klege lights and reportes at the hotel. Visiting the troops does not require an ontourage.
As a matter of fact, a single senator all by himself would have been more appreciated and considered REAL.
"Perhaps" as the Rumor has it, Mitchell is sleeping with SOBama because her current husband can't get it up??
Just sayin
Obama - SSDD
July 25, 2008 - 21:51 ET by BondPlainBondThe Blame Gang.
C'mon! Expecting something different? From liberals? Especially in-the-tank liberals?
I would like to see Half-Black Jack and McLame pick each other..
July 25, 2008 - 22:01 ET by R D Helm...for VP.
That way they would both lose. :-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
We keep hearing that Reubicans own the Media
July 27, 2008 - 12:17 ET by TheHistorianIf Republicans own the media, why don't people who report unsubstantiated rumors like this get fired? The reason is because the WHOLE newsroom is in the tank for Obama. And it may be owned by Republicans, per se, but is managed by liberal Democrats.
The truth is that Obama thought he could parade journalists and his campaign staff in with him for a photo opportunity. He didn't read the rules the Pentagon gave him, or maybe he thought he, as one of the Elite 100, and especially as the Anointed Democrat Savior, did not have to abide by them. But Andrea won't report that Obama goofed; instead, she needs to scapegoat a non-Democrat, and the Pentagon comes to the fore.
Andrea, if you want to do yellow-dog journalism, go report on John Edwards' mistress and love child and leave stories like this to competent journalists. http://www.independe...
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this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
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