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In polite liberal circles, Ralph Nader's suggestion that Barack Obama "wants to talk white" and avoid appearing like another Jesse Jackson is infra dig. Take, for example, Joan Walsh's reaction on yesterday's Hardball. Said the editor of Salon.com:
I don't think that racism is too strong a word for what he said.
Added NY Times columnist Bob Herbert:
It's a lousy, reprehensible comment.
But as uncomfortable as Nader's statement might make some people, could there be a kernel of truth to it? Joe Scarborough seems to think so. And even Prof. Michael Dyson—Obama fan and commentator on matters racial—seemed to acknowledge that "ghetto-speak" would hurt Barack, going so far as to imitate the kind of street accent that could damage the candidate's campaign.
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Discussion of the controversy led today's Morning Joe. After a clip of Nader's remarks aired, this conversation ensued:
JOE SCARBOROUGH: It's very easy to just dismiss what Ralph Nader said.
Mika was not in a forgiving mood.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: No, I kinda can't.SCARBOROUGH: But you can't dismiss it?
BRZEZINSKI: No I cannot.
SCARBOROUGH: Alright, why is that?
BRZEZINSKI: I just, I want to know just what exactly he was getting at.
SCARBOROUGH: Well, I think, Willie Geist, what he's getting at, he's saying Barack Obama is trying to sound white. And --
Mika was apparently shocked at the notion.
BRZEZINSKI: Excuse me?!SCARBOROUGH: And because if he talks about, as he said, "the ghetto."
BRZEZINSKI: Oh!
WILLIE GEIST [chuckling]: The ghetto.
SCARBOROUGH:--who uses that word anymore? I mean, God, that's so 1971.
Perhaps. But there's an honesty to it lacking in the euphemistic "inner city."
SCARBOROUGH: Next he's going to talk about "urban renewal." But if he talks about race and poverty and all these other issues, Ralph Nader believes that he won't be white enough to be elected.BRZEZINSKI: N-i-c-c-e.
GEIST: We'll play a little more of the soundbite after Mika's news, give you a little more context. But even with the context . . .
BRZEZINSKI: Why go there? Why you gotta go there?
SCARBOROUGH: Let me say this: we've had some political strategists come on this show, who we all respect very much, who have said, who we've said, why can't the guy just relax? Why does he seem so uptight? Why is he always wearing a coat and tie when he's bowling for God sake, or drinking?
BRZEZINSKI: That has just nothing to do with --
SCARBOROUGH: And—hold on a second, hold on a second—and the response that we get from more than one smart guy, or woman, is that they talk about Kennedy. When Kennedy ran as an Irish-Catholic, he had to be the most anglicized, white, Eastern Seaboard Irish Catholic that ever was. The same thing with Barack Obama. There are a lot of people who are saying Barack Obama faces an uphill climb, and for him to win he's got to be like Kennedy, he's got to be the whitest, most anglicized, non-threatening African-American. That's what people have said on this show. When you put it in that context, of course it doesn't seem offensive to a lot of people, this [what Nader said] does seem offensive.
When the prolix professor Dyson came on a bit later, he rejected Nader's assertion that Obama isn't addressing substantive issues of importance to African-Americans. But he seemed to second Scarborough's view on Obama's personal style.
MICHAEL DYSON: I think what Mr. Nader is speaking about here is a matter of style. And here, Mr. Obama has been past brilliant. The reality is that you can't win for losing. If he was going [imitating] "you know what I'm sayin'? Look, look, what I want to talk about is the followin' stuff," if he had a kind of brogue, or a vernacular that is associated with African-American ghetto-speak, then he would be considered legitimate and his bona fides would be established, but if he speaks the king's English to the queen's taste, if he's able to put together subject, predicate and noun, if he's able to talk, and verb, if he's able to talk about the transitions in the American economy with aplomb and grace and style, all of a sudden he's, quote, "speaking white," not simply in terms of style but in terms of subject matter as well. He's trying to be President of the United States of America, not of any one segment of America.
Mika was more inclined to agree with Dyson.
BRZEZINSKI: Oh, that's fair.
My two cents: There's a delectable irony in seeing liberals turn on the same Nader they once extolled as the great champion of their causes. Now he's become persona non grata for the crime of running against their guy.
Bonus Coverage: Mika Victimized by Retching Rover!
Later in the show, comedian Richard Belzer came on to tout a pet adoption project, Paws-i-dential Year, tied to the political season. He brought along Bebe, a stray dog he had adopted. Mika was cuddling the cur, when things suddenly went very wrong. What's worse, Joe pledged to reward the little culprit with some steak for the outrage he committed. Hat tip Blonde.
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—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.















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Still a one way street
June 26, 2008 - 07:47 ET by expatriotIt is still a one way street as shown here with the Nadar remark. If a black person says anything about a white person, especially negative, it is allowed and there is no racism involved. Make a statement about a black person, person of color, person other than caucasion and you are branded a racist and the speech is hate speech.
If we can't start having legitimate debate and discussion in this country we are going to continue to go down a very steep hill and crash at the bottom. They are reading too far into the Nadar statement.
By the same token, a black
June 26, 2008 - 08:25 ET by motherbeltBy the same token, a black person can accuse another black person of "acting white" and it's not a problem.
As for the "white guilt" thing, there was no uproar when David Ehrenstein (who I assume is white) of the LA Times wrote his "Magic Negro" column.
Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson
Exactly, that is an obvious
June 26, 2008 - 08:28 ET by expatriotExactly, that is an obvious form of racism and it is given a pass everytime. We need to start speaking openly and plainly without fear of retribution. But that would then threaten the race baiters in America who at last count were all black. We can't have that now can we?
Perhaps one of the greatest
June 26, 2008 - 08:39 ET by KillgravePerhaps one of the greatest ironies is that IF we were to have common decency and respect between the races in this country, then these race-baiters, agitators and extortionists would be out of a job (extremely lucrative, in some cases) and a purpose in life.
Racial harmony is the last thing these people want.
→ Killgrave
June 26, 2008 - 08:49 ET by Cool ArrowAnd when Sen. Robert Byrd passes on to meet his god below us, I'd love to puke on the wretched box that carries him there.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
→ motherbelt
June 26, 2008 - 08:30 ET by Cool ArrowDid you say "token"?
Codespeak alert!!
/sarc
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
David Ehrenstein
June 26, 2008 - 09:20 ET by mom_roxNot a problem, except that it's said as an insult. (You know, not black enough. Acting like a snob.)
David Ehrenstein is African-American, black or however he would prefer his skin color to be described.
The Obama-Superman picture on Noel's NewsBusters article is great. Take your pick: Obama as a superhero or a messiah. (I need to add a third choice: just another politician.)
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
Photo of David Ehrenstein
June 26, 2008 - 10:04 ET by Caringwhiteguyhttp://images.google...
Why is this woman even on
June 26, 2008 - 08:11 ET by rimskyWhy is this woman even on this show. She has nothing but 3 or 4 word sentences and with this quip...
BRZEZINSKI: Why go there? Why you gotta go there?
..it's like she is almost trying to talk ghetto.. "Why you gotta go there?"
Nader.. right now is, oddly enough, an honest voice in this discussion. Call it racist if you want, but he's right that Obama is being very careful with every syllable and I'd bet that his appearances during the campaign in any purely racial or ethnic setting are limited, or at least VERY controlled such that the depth of the questions and answers will keep him very, shall we say, vanilla on such issues.
he changes depending
June 26, 2008 - 08:48 ET by red_dragon311he changes depending on where he is at, at a mosty white gathering he speaks white which in black circles can get you "black card" taken away from you. but He gets a pass because He is who he is.
at a black gathering the "y'all" comes out
I jusy hope the " if you don't vote for Barack H-word Obama you are a racist" card get SO over played that it gets old really quickly.
I myself am sick of it.
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
Why is this woman even on this show
June 26, 2008 - 12:56 ET by allamericangirlI wonder that same thing. I wish they would replace her.
They might as well let Mika wear her cheerleading uniform on the show. Joe Scarborough even commented the other day on the fact that she gives commentary with her moans and groans while reading the daily news.
Each time they have a guest with a pro liberal opinion she eagerly inserts helpful comments that will aid the guest in making their point. When another point of view that is contrary to the liberal stance is presented she gets angry and practically manifests a demon.
I thought Dyson made some
June 26, 2008 - 08:36 ET by PeskyDaneI thought Dyson made some good points. Mika, on the other hand, makes me think of a typical Upper West Side Socialite (yes I do know a couple) who will attend all the right charity fund raisers, acquires all the fashionable opinions, but has never had an african-american sitting at the dinner table.
This is the result of years of training
June 26, 2008 - 08:39 ET by c5thenThe black "community" has been carefully trained that it's OK for them to be racist and prejudiced because they are the "victims". What do we get out of this? We get a seperate and distinct culture that is identified primarily by skin color. Blacks talk differently then whites and asians and latinos. This is on purpose and pre-meditated by the liberals so that there will always be different "groups" that they can pit against each other.
Go to almost any other country, England, France, Italy, etc. and you will find that the people of different ethnic backgrounds all speak the same language and with the same accent. It is only in THIS country that a black man can be acused of speaking "too white".
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
I wish I had been BeBe...I
June 26, 2008 - 09:04 ET by marpelI wish I had been BeBe...I would have had it coming outta both ends if Mika was holding me. That's how I feel about this vacant woman.
Somehow I can't help but
June 26, 2008 - 09:16 ET by BruzillaSomehow I can't help but feel if Nader had been talking about Condi Rice, you all would be screaming "NADER IS A RACIST!!!"
Not at all
June 26, 2008 - 09:38 ET by expatriotIf Nader spoke the same way about Condi it would be looked at as Nader being Nader. It does not matter who the subject is we should look at what is said objectively. We should also have the confidence to speak openly and objectively.
nope
June 26, 2008 - 10:05 ET by landsharkThe knee-jerk reaction of calling someone racist is a tactic of the left, not the right. They can't argue substance so they resort to smears. Nader is batsh*t crazy but I don't think he's a racist.
Hell, if Obama "sounds" white, it should stand to reason, no? He's half-white, raised by white Grandparents, went to Harvard.... The thing that should be insulting is when he's talking to predominantly black audiences and adopts a different (dare I say), lazier, speech pattern. It's almost as grating as Hillary's southern schtick.
Just so
June 26, 2008 - 10:08 ET by expatriotMost definitely. Hillary does not get a pass on this either. Or anyone else for that matter. But you hit it on the head.
3 Cheers For The Dog
June 26, 2008 - 14:06 ET by stratmanThe dog just couldn't take anymore of Mika's nauseating rhetoric.
A partisan pooch?
Was waiting to see if it would pee on Belzer.
RRAM Tough!
strat
June 26, 2008 - 19:39 ET by BlondeI saw this as it happened and I had tears running down my face as I left the house I was laughing so hard.
I am sooooo glad Joe's back. The very best part of the show is when he smack's Mika (figuratively) for her liberal twitism....and he got her twice in that segment.
That poor little mutt though...cowering on the floor.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde:There are dogs
June 27, 2008 - 00:00 ET by stratmanBlonde:
There are dogs that can sniff out wild game or escaped convicts.
There are dogs that can sniff out drugs or explosives.
There are dogs that can sniff out dead people buried in rubble.
There are dogs that can sniff out living people in avalanches.
There are even dogs that can sniff out someone is soon to die.
And then there is the dog on Morning Joe that can sniff out Liberals.
Instead of pointing, barking, or pawing at the found object, the Liberal-sniffing dog vomits on the Liberal to mark them so Conservatives can avoid further contact.
Good doggie!
RRAM Tough!
Mika was just lucky it was
June 27, 2008 - 00:01 ET by bigtimerMika was just lucky it was from the mouth and not the other end.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
He, he, he BT. The other
June 27, 2008 - 02:24 ET by stratmanHe, he, he BT.
The other end was reserved for Richard Belzer.
RRAM Tough!