Let Them In: WSJ Editor Argues for Open Borders

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The editorial page of the Wall Street Journal has long been an indispensable voice of conservatism. As President Bush said in 2003 in awarding the Medal of Freedom to editorial page editor Robert L. Bartley shortly before his death, he—and by extension his editorial page—has been "a champion of free markets, individual liberty and the values necessary for a free society."

But there is one area in which the editorial page's policy diverges strikingly from conservative orthodoxy, and that is on the matter of immigration. To varying degrees, the paper's editorialists have argued in favor of a more flexible attitude toward immigration. That tendency reaches its apotheosis in the recently-released book by WSJ editorial board member Jason Riley: Let Them In: The Case for Open Borders.

Riley appeared on this weekend's Journal Editorial Report on FNC to discuss his book with host Paul Gigot and make the case that borders should indeed be opened. Riley seemed surprisingly passive in the defense of his controversial proposal, and I personally came away unpersuaded. Here was the exchange.

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PAUL GIGOT: Nearly 400 suspected illegal immigrants were arrested this week in a raid on a meatpacking plant in Iowa. Federal officials say it was the largest operations of its kind in U.S. history. Wall Street Journal editorial board member Jason Riley is the author of the new book Let Them In: The Case for Open Borders. He joins me now. Jason, I think a lot of Americans will say looking at a raid like this at a plant and finding 400 illegals, why should these people have a right to break the law and come and work in this country?

JASON RILEY: Well I think the real lesson to take away from this is, well there are a couple lessons. Do we want our homeland security resources being put to use this way? Is this the best, most efficient use of them? The case for open borders is a case for moving our immigration policy in a more market-oriented direction. The workers at the plants were coming to this country to work. Why not let them come legally? And therefore our homeland security forces would be able to focus on real threats. Which are not meat packers in Iowa.

GIGOT: You are not saying they weren't with breaking the law.

RILEY: Of course they were breaking the law. But the reason they were breaking the law is because we have a policy in which too many immigrants are chasing too few visas. I believe that the best way to reduce illegal immigration and to prevent illegal workers working in factories is to give people who come here to work more ways to come legally. The best way to to decrease illegal immigration is to provide more legal ways to come here to work. And we know that this is effective because we tried it before. We had a bracero program after World War II to take care of a shortage of farm workers. And when that program was in effect, illegal immigration from Mexico was reduced to a trickle. Now there are all kinds of problems in terms of worker exploitation with this program so Iwouldn't recommend resurrecting it in the exact form; we'd have to tinker with it. But the fundamental principle is sound. If you give people more legal ways to come you get less illegal immigration.

GIGOT: Other objection to your ideas for immigration are the social costs of illegal immigration. They are here. They use our emergency rooms. Health care emergency rooms. Their children get educated in our schools. We have to educate them because of a Supreme Court ruling, Plyler v. Doe. Why should the hard-working American taxpayer have to support the social service costs for people who are here illegally?

RILEY: Well, there are a couple answers to that. One is a lot of people are unaware that immigrants, illegal immigrants, can't receive federal welfare benefits. So that cuts that out right there.

GIGOT: No, but they do go to emergency rooms.

RILEY: They go to emergency rooms and they can get things like Medicaid at the state level and so forth. But you have to keep in mind that immigration benefits both parties. It benefits not only the immigrants themselves but also the people in the recipient country. Immigrants are also consumers. They don't just take. In other words, they buy cars, they buy homes, they get their hair cut.

GIGOT: So economically they're a net plus?

RILEY: Well, they create more economic activity. And creating more economic activity helps our economy grow and in the long run creates even more jobs. So the studies -- and there have been studies done at the state level. Texas has done a study which the controller of Texas found that illegal immigrants were a net plus for the state.

GIGOT: Let me raise another issue which is assimilation, because a lot of people think that you compare this wave of immigrants, Hispanic mostly, to the Italians and the Irish of an earlier era. A lot of critics would say: look those folks did assimilate. The Hispanics in fact in this country are so numerous they can form these enclaves in parts of the country where they do not learn to speak English, where they do not assimilate. What's the evidence that they are assimilating?

RILEY: Well, there's plenty of evidence. We usually measure assimilation in terms of English-language skills, home-ownership rates, climbing out of poverty and so forth. I mean, people look back at the Europeans who came 100 years ago and it's sort of 20/20 hindsight. We sort of romanticize who was coming at the time. There is every indication that immigrants are learning English today and that they are increasing their income and so forth. They are assimilating.

I was particularly struck by Riley's notion that "the best way to reduce illegal immigration and to prevent illegal workers working in factories is to give people who come here to work more ways to come legally." By the same logic, I suppose decriminalizing most larceny would reduce illegal theft. But would that be a good idea?

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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Consistent with the WSJ line . . . .

No suprise here. The WSJ editorial board has always been in favor of open borders to provide the cheapest labor possible in order to compete with China and India.

Keep in mind, these are very wealthy editors, living in gated communities or Upper West Side apartments, far removed from the dangers inherent in illegal immigration and open borders.  They keep their eyes on the bottom-line, and not our national security and interests.

So they assimilate, eh? Why

So they assimilate, eh? Why do I have to press 1 for English? Why do I have to turn the box around until I find the English labels and instructions?

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Be very afraid

This defines the lawlessness that exists south of the border. Police being targeted, openly, by the drug lords and other criminals. Who's running that country, and why do we have to let Mexicans have free border access to our country?

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

I heard that -- and

I heard that -- and wondered if I'd stumbled into a La Raza Love-Fest on Fox.

Way to Gigot...Paul. I've seen marshmllows put up a stiffer fight than your non-interview.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

WOW What great logic!

So it's our fault they are illegal becase we won't let them in legally?  Yeah, that makes sense to me!

Lets's not bother with issues like balancing the need with the ability to support the increased population. Or, dealing with the reality that illegal immagents drive down the wages of American workers.  Don't use the BS about jobs Americans won't do!  At the depressed wages these illegals get I don't blame them. 

And then there's the blacks who won't ever work since they are the chosen minority and can't be expected to work because they were once slaves!

chasvs

and lets conveniently forget that that the US allows more LEGAL immigrants in every years than ANY OTHER COUNTRY on the planet.

  i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”   

We usually measure

We usually measure assimilation in terms of English-language skills, home-ownership rates, climbing out of poverty and so forth -Riley

That's just feel-good talk. Number one, they are NOT learning English because they don't have to. The first thing you hear when you call any automated line is For English, press 1. And let's face it, one can climb out of poverty and buy a house and still not be assimilated.

He Is Right...

but he is also wrong. We should be able to allow good people to both immigrate to this country and also to just come here and work legally. He is wrong in that we currently have laws on the books that need to be enforced and that we need to do that before we even consider addressing the issues that seem to be roadblocks to people immigrating and/or crossing our borders legally.

Just wait until

one of these "cheap labor" illegal immigrants happens to be middle eastern descent and happens to be bringing a WMD.

Once San Antonio or Houston is unihabitable for 100 years, the useless politicians we have will fall all over themselves being the first to scream for a wall on the border.

Let them in?  We are

Let them in? 

We are already looking at a population boom that rivals the " baby boomers"- and it is coming from outside our borders.

How many more should we let in?  How about 200 million Chinese- that would bring us to about 500 million.  How about 200 million from India?  That would bring us to 700 million.  How about 50 million more from Europe, once the Muslims really start taking over- there is a mass exodus of England already underway because the Euros decided to replace the natives with Muslims.  

We are already heading towards a electricity crisis because we cannot build new power plants . What happens as our population swells even more.  I will tell you.  The media will start trying to guilt those who have been here for a few generations to have less children- oh wait, that has already started- but leave the doors wide open to millions from outside.

Mark,

that particular point in your last paragraph was the one which most caught my eye and I was going to make the same point. This guy has no facts to back his statements, he just reiterates his own points as his "facts".

I can assure this gentleman that the illegals in Tucson, AZ have not received his message regarding speaking English. They do not. I have posted before that I am an RN in a busy ER in Tucson; the number of non-English speakers who speak only Spanish has greatly increased over the last few years. I, and my fellow workers in Arizona, pay for their care...THEY DO NOT.

It is very difficult to assimilate when you do not speak the language.

Riley is one of the people

Riley is one of the people on the WSJ Ed page to use the word "racist" in reference to people who oppose uncontrolled immigration. This was years ago now, and WSJ no longer uses racist, just "anti-immigrant."
There may, however, be a border fence outside of the WSJ Editorial offices, because I don't know of any of them that are of Latin American descent. Talk about exclusionary.

illegal immigrants *can't* receive federal welfare benefits??!??

So I must have been dreaming when NB had an entire immense thread devoted at least in part to Democrats in congress changing the rules so that Nancy Pelosi could break a tie vote contradicting that very statement?? The Democrats' motivations for this vote remain a mystery to me, but I'm pretty sure I was sane & only too sober when I saw the thread...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Anti-Immigrant!

McCain and his pal L.Graham in the Senate also use this "anti-immigrant" terminology. They just don't want to get it. And they refuse to see why the majority of Americans across the political spectrum don't want illegal immigration or open borders. There are many reasons why they don't want them. All valid. What's with these so-called "conservatives"?

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

I can't stand even listening

I can't stand even listening to someone that is as dumb as Mr. Riley.  It actually hurts.  This brainiac is basically saying that the best way to stop illegal invaders from breaking the law is to eliminate the law.  Go back and listen.  Tell me that isn't his "gist".

I have some news for you Riley.  Mexican's in Mexico are Mexico's responsibility.  We have enough people in this country "legally" that need jobs (including "legal" Mexican's).

BURDENS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED

The illegals and therfore criminals that are entering this country with a wink and a nod from the executive office of this country and therefore ICE are overburdening our already less than efficient HEALTH CARE SYSTEM--CRIMINAL JUDICIAL AND PENAL SYSTEM--EDUCATION--AND SOCIAL WELFARE ROLLS--NOW THEY WILL BE TAKING JOBS IN A TIGHT ECONOMY FROM AMERICANS.  Yeah editors from WSJ can afford to be beneficient and what they think is benevolent until their jobs are threatened.  Wake up--oops sorry the snooze button has been hit twice and we're going down for the 10 count.  There is no hope out there.  John McCain , what a joke and the other 2 will pay them to come in with our tax money.

"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Red

What scares me is that I

What scares me is that I believe it is already too late.  Look at the statistics.  Every illegal in this country is procreating at an alarming rate.  Each of those babies becomes an ANCHOR baby.  Not only is the country becoming horribly overpopulated but these same anchor babies are going to drain the system in all the resources you mentioned.  This doesn't even include the new criminals that are breaking the law and coming into the country illegally.  

Sorry, but if I had any political clout at all I would declare removal of illegal aliens my top priority.  Ofcourse I live in California so I know firsthand what is at stake.   

You arent' kidding about

You aren't kidding about that....I work with abused and neglected children, you wouldn't believe the Anchor babies involved in Dependency Court. The maddening thing is that the Court completely ignores that the parents are here illegally!

Amnesty is back in the US Senate again

Amnesty for illegal immigrants has once again reared it's ugly head with Senator Feinstein (D-CA) slipping in her amnesty for agricultural workers into the Iraq Supplemental Spending bill being voted on this week in the Senate. This would amount to amnesty for over 3 million illegal aliens. Her amendment is not only not germane to the bill's intent, polls indicate 80% of Americans are opposed to amnesty on principle.


Unless Americans immediately, once again, pepper the Senate with complaints, amnesty could come to pass. Want to fight against sellout politicians, illegal immigration and amnesty? Here's how:
http://www.alipac.us/article-3191--0-0.html
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-115596.html

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The more we become a nation of illegal immigrants, the deeper we fall into anarchy.