JOHN EDWARDS: There's also a wall that's divided our image in the world. The America as the beacon of hope is behind that wall. And all the world sees now is a bully. They see Iraq, Guantanamo, secret prison, and a government that argues that waterboarding is not torture [lusty booing from the crowd]. This is not OK. That wall has to come down. For the sake of our ideals and our security. We can change this. We can change it. Yes, we can.Note that Edwards wasn't saying the America-haters of the world are wrong. To the contrary, he was clearly seconding their view of the US as a bully, for the supposed crimes he enumerated. For a moment there, I thought Edwards might be on the verge of a "God bless America? No, no, no" of his own. Is this really the kind of endorsement Senator 57-states needs?
I didn't note any comment on Edwards' "bully" remark in the immediate post-speech kibitzing on MSNBC. Will the MSM report the anti-Americanism of Obama's latest fan?
Note: All the world sees in America is a bully? No wonder nobody wants to come here.
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i remember when bullies
May 14, 2008 - 19:52 ET by TruthMongeri remember when bullies used to liberate me from maniacal dictators all the time - and send me trillions in foriegn aid every year...
i so ashamed john:(
John Edwards is an America-hating ambulance-chaser.
May 14, 2008 - 19:53 ET by R D Helm'nuff said.
That's great! I had the
May 14, 2008 - 19:56 ET by scamoramaThat's great!
I had the same thought (see below).
And to think that this
May 14, 2008 - 19:56 ET by Trix RabbitAnd to think that this America-hating ambulance chaser wanted to be our President...er...dictator.
Edwards is lower than what you scrape off your shoes after a walk through the barnyard.
Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell
Hey Trix
May 14, 2008 - 20:00 ET by DEVILDOCMOMplease do not insult what I shovel twice a day from my horse. LOL
Trix,
May 14, 2008 - 20:06 ET by R D HelmLOL-Actually, I was thinking whale feces in the deepest depths of the ocean.
But barnyard works, too. :-)
R D
May 14, 2008 - 20:09 ET by DelsaLet's see..Obama is an America Hating Socialist and he has added Edwars the America Hating ambulance chaser!
PERFECT TICKET
Edwards must think that
May 14, 2008 - 19:55 ET by scamoramaEdwards must think that under an Obama Presidency there'll be more ambulances to chase.
Or maybe he likes the sound of "Vice President Edwards".
With Apologies to Pres. Reagan
May 14, 2008 - 19:56 ET by ledurchiJohn Edwards: Mr. Obama, tear down this country!
Lol. Could be an instant
May 14, 2008 - 19:59 ET by Clear thinkerLol.
Could be an instant classic.
"Abstain from McCain"
Edwards Endorses . . .
May 14, 2008 - 19:58 ET by Chris NormanEdwards Endorses . . . Worldview of USA as 'Bully'
Edwards shouldn't be endorsing anything but hair and beauty products.
how does he sing that lee
May 14, 2008 - 20:18 ET by TruthMongerhow does he sing that lee greenwood tune again...?
I'm ashamed to be an American, where we all just a bunch of bul-leees...
or Toby Keith maybe?
please stick a boot up our *$$, it's the Democrat way...
John woulda made a great US prez to be sure
To answer your question
May 14, 2008 - 19:58 ET by DEVILDOCMOMyes, of course, I am sure bho LOVES this endorsement. The two of them will be one big twisted love fest. Just think how excited michelle "only now am I proud of my country" obama must be...
I remember during the
May 14, 2008 - 20:40 ET by celatorI remember during the debates, these two knuckleheads would make googoo eyes at each other and support each other's debate points. They were probably holding hands under the table.
I am wondering who and what groups are pushing for Edwards. On second thought, I don't think I wanna know.
I thought Edwards was never
May 14, 2008 - 19:59 ET by bigtimerI thought Edwards was never gonna' shut the heck up with his America bashing bull....you'd of thought he was announcing for Prez again...
...as far as nobody wanting to come here...would somebody please tell the illegals that...it sure isn't going to be any of the candidates we have running...they all welcome them with open arms and will guide them personally to any voting booth during elections.
ah...America...ain't it great...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
bt, it's probably
May 14, 2008 - 20:09 ET by Chris Normanbt,
it's probably because Edwards knows he'll never be up on a podium with anyone listening again - unless he can find himself a really cool gig - like that Al Gore did with Global Warming
BT
May 14, 2008 - 20:14 ET by DelsaLOL
You are so funny. I was thinking the very same thing and I bet Obama was thinking it too.
You are really making me simile today.
Thanks
Delsa... You sure are
May 14, 2008 - 20:23 ET by bigtimerDelsa...
You sure are more that welcome..and I am so in a foul mood today after this polar bear announcement today, plus McCain and his leftist speeches for the last two weeks in town halls and such, like losing three now so-called safe seats for repubs and they still are not getting a clue...heck life is short, your thanks made me smile.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I don't see how this
May 14, 2008 - 20:01 ET by the curatorI don't see how this qualifies as alleged liberal media bias?
Its a politicians opinion of how other countries see the U.S.... not something a media outlet reported.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Of everything Edwards said
May 14, 2008 - 20:03 ET by Mark FinkelsteinOf everything Edwards said in his endorsement speech, this is what lept out at me. Yet as I wrote in the item, I didn't hear it mentioned in MSNBC's post-speech analysis. I see that as bias.
OK
May 14, 2008 - 20:10 ET by the curatorThat reasoning works for me. Of course I don't agree :-) But, I appreciate you clarifying your point. Thank you.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Had he worded it
May 14, 2008 - 20:18 ET by the curatorActually, one other question, Mr. Finkelstein.
If Mr. Edwards had worded it differently... such as "Some around the world see a bully..." Would you have as much as a problem with it.
I disagree that "All the world see is a bully" to be correct. But, can we agree that there are segments of the world (aside from Islamo-fanatics), productive, intelligent members of the world... who see us in a less than positive light?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Of course it's true some see
May 14, 2008 - 20:24 ET by Mark FinkelsteinOf course it's true some see us as a bully. But I'd still have a problem with Edwards because he was siding with the people who see us that way.
Follow up?
May 14, 2008 - 20:32 ET by the curatorMr. Finkelstein,
First off... I agree with you. He either worded it badly or is just plain wrong... and in no way do I think the world as a whole views us as a bully.
That said, I don't think Mr. Edwards would be "siding with people who see us that way."
Instead, don't you think he'd be playing to the opinion of some in this country who want to see the U.S. image improved around the world?
I guess what I'm saying is, is there something wrong with admitting our image 'aint the best right now in some places (to which you've agreed)... and saying we need to try to fix it?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
I believe he was siding with
May 14, 2008 - 20:36 ET by Mark FinkelsteinI believe he was siding with those who see America as a bully. He read off his list like it was a criminal indictment. Listen to the boos from the crowd. Who were they booing? Thugs like Ahmadinejad or the Myanmar rulers? No. They were booing America, and that's just what Edwards wanted.
OK
May 14, 2008 - 20:42 ET by the curatorI'm assuming (and I could be way off) that it was your preceived intention of his words that you didn't like, then... and not the acknowledgement of our image in some parts of the world, and the need to improve that image. (again, I could be way off).
Either way, thank for the responses, Mr. Finkelstein.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
curator
May 14, 2008 - 20:33 ET by DelsaWe do everything for the world. Does the world ever come to our aid? NO..Hell NO
So here is what I'd agree on.
I don't give a damn what the world or John Edwards thinks of "THE United States" aka US
Actually, the amount of aid
May 14, 2008 - 20:43 ET by the curatorActually, the amount of aid and support we received following 911 and Katrina was overwhelming. We just don't require the help as much or as often. We are - as you pointed out - usually the ones giving.
I respect your opinion of not caring what the rest of the world thinks about us. I would just caution that as the world becomes ever smaller... other nations become more economically developed... that xenophobic type of thought may not be condusive to us as a nation.
In fact, I would argue the regard to which our nation had been viewed from WWII on helped greatly in our advancements as a super-power. (granted, our actions inWWII and it's conclusion catapulted us towards that end as well.)
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
WHAT?
May 14, 2008 - 20:51 ET by Delsa"The amount of aid and support we received following 911 and Katrina was overwhelming."??
What aid? From whom? To Whom, When, and Where was it delivered?
If the world wants to forget history or worse yet, not teach it or reflect it truthfully. I can't help that.
And if OUR school system continues to leave our kids uneducated when it comes to American History and World History we will have no need for Historical Curators.
xenophobic
May 14, 2008 - 20:55 ET by Free Stinkercurator,
It does not follow that if you are indifferent towards someone else's opinion that you also fear or hate them.
Poor logic.
Free Stinker
May 14, 2008 - 20:59 ET by DelsaI could not understand the "xenophobic" comment?
Never thought of myself as a Nationalist.
Proud American...Yep
Delsa
May 14, 2008 - 21:03 ET by Free StinkerXenophobes hate or fear those who are different.
Thus, we could correctly call Liberals xenophobes, seeing how much they hate and fear our different political views. ;-)
Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!
How about we don't call or
May 14, 2008 - 21:05 ET by the curatorHow about we don't call or label anyone anything so we can keep the discourse cordial?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Oh I took
May 14, 2008 - 21:11 ET by Delsaxenophobic as an adjective can = biased: nationalistic, nationalist, chauvinistic, gung-hoish, jingoistic, xenophobic
I appreciate your thoughts
You're right..
May 14, 2008 - 21:00 ET by the curatorPoor word choice on my part.
I probably should have used "isolationism." Even that wouldn't have been totally accurate... but, closer.
What I was trying to convey was my disagreement to the the previous posters opinion that we shouldn't care what others think.
Thanks for the check.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Fair enough.
May 14, 2008 - 21:05 ET by Free StinkerFair enough.
What I was attempting to convey
May 14, 2008 - 21:21 ET by Delsawas. America is a great country and we need to be proud of all we do.
If we worried about what others thought, we might not make the correct decisions.
No one should be paralized worring about what others will think.
We all make choices throughout our lives. A country is no different. If this country ever freezes worring over what the rest of the world might think we are collectively toast!
Just so you know I am attempting to be civil.
Thank you
May 14, 2008 - 21:31 ET by the curatorAnd I can see that you are...
And I agree with everything you said.
And making decisions without worrying about others thoughts has been a hallmark of this administration. While I don't agree with many of his decisions, I admire his conviction.
I guess I just think the more the world likes and respects you, the easier it is to be a world leader.
Just something to keep in mind when making and executing foreign police, I feel.
Which, I think is something Sen. Edwards was intimating towards.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
"Just something to keep in
May 14, 2008 - 21:32 ET by Indiana Joe"Just something to keep in mind when making and executing foreign police, I feel."
First I heard of that.
That's just wrong!
;^)
Indiana Joe
May 14, 2008 - 21:38 ET by DelsaI thing it was foreign policy
Just sayin
Thank you
May 14, 2008 - 21:40 ET by the curatorThank you, Delsa.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Well-stated, Delsa,
May 14, 2008 - 21:30 ET by Indiana Joe...and a long way from either xenophobia or isolationism.
It's a xenophobic world, apparently
May 15, 2008 - 17:23 ET by CobraMan"that xenophobic type of thought may not be condusive to us as a nation"
Isn't this just what Edwards was saying about "most of the world" when he claimed that they consider us bullies (until the NEED us that is) and claimed that "this is not ok?" Doesn't this indicate that "most of the world" has xenophobic types of thought when it comes to America?
Doesn't that also indicate that Edwards AGREES with "most of the world" and thinks that America is the big bully on the block? It sure seems like it to me.
BTW, most of America doesn't have many"xenophobic" citizens and any claim that we do is just plain wrong. How can a country that spends BILLIONS of dollars every year in foreign aid, and even higher amounts in private donations to foreigners in need, be even remotely considered as xenophobic or a bully? That's a very poor assessment of this great country and it's citizens who are the most charitable people in history. Americans are willing to die so that others may be free. You can't get any more charitable than that!
No, he doesnt
May 15, 2008 - 19:10 ET by the curatorWhile not being able to speak for Mr. Edwards, I don't think he 'believes' American to be a bully.
I believe his quote was "the rest of the world sees a bully."
And he wants to correct that misperception.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Implicit in his statement
May 15, 2008 - 19:21 ET by fitzfongImplicit in his statement is that "the rest of the world" is correct when they "see" a bully. In other words, it's our responsibility to modify our behavior as an act to change their perception of us...it's not up to them to see the error of the perception.
Anyway, who gives a rat's a** what this ambulance-chasing shyster thinks?
Anyway, who gives a rat's
May 15, 2008 - 19:24 ET by the curatorAnyway, who gives a rat's a** what this ambulance-chasing shyster thinks?
Sen. Obama. And a lot of middle American whites who may vote for Obama as a result of Edwards' endorsement. Which is a group Obama has had difficulty attracting.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
The middle Americans you
May 15, 2008 - 20:03 ET by fitzfongThe middle Americans you speak of are a hell of a lot smarter than that. The only people who buy this charlatan's racket anymore are the idiots in the jury pool and the sleazebags in the Plaintiff's Bar.
Some may disagree
May 15, 2008 - 20:35 ET by the curatorI don't know. Obama's polling numbers have been very bad among middle American whites... especially men. That's an area where (the only area, actually) where Edwards was doing well while he was still campaigning.
Every analyst I've seen (conservative and liberal) say its a huge 'get' for Obama. A change to reach out to a section of voters whom he's not been doing well.
I'm not saying it will work or not... but, that's the pervasive thought behind it all right now. Druge was even speculating Edwards could be the VP nominee to - again - try to shore up the middle American whites.
(if we could lose the name-calling - i.e. "idoiots" "sleazebags", I'd appreciate it).
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Didn't Edwards get something
May 15, 2008 - 20:39 ET by balboaDidn't Edwards get something like 7% of the vote in WV without even being on the ballot? Edwards brings the support of the group that Obama has been losing a little of lately: blue-collar whites.
With all due respect, I am
May 15, 2008 - 21:01 ET by fitzfongWith all due respect, I am not about to moderate the expression of my intense (and correct) distaste for John Edwards and his riff-raff followers for your comfort. And I won't take lectures on name-calling, either. It's not as if I called you a "sleazebag" or an "idiot". Besides, what if I did?
Its not about me...
May 15, 2008 - 21:17 ET by the curatorIts not about me, man. Its about keeping debate and discourse on a level that keeps people engaged... as opposed to name-calling which discourages people from taking part in the talk.
And I know you're not calling me names. But, when you throw them out there at all, its just disappointing.
And if you did, well its not like I'm going to run through the CPU screen or anything. You can obviously do what you will. I simply woulnd't engage you in discussion. But, seriously... isn't that counter-productive? Why not keep things respectful?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Look, I've got nothing
May 15, 2008 - 22:36 ET by fitzfongLook, I've got nothing against you. I respect you. I throw out the names in reference to John Edwards because I'm sick and tired of him being portrayed as an honorable man. He is not. He's a thief who made an absolute fortune conning pliable jurors into bankrupting medical practices (with the perverse consequence of making health care more expensive and less reliable) through slick presentations and phony charm. It's a shameful indictment on our political system that he was able to parlay his little shakedown operation into a term in the Senate, two Presidential primary runs and a Vice Presidential general election run. The fact that he subsequently used his wife's cancer recurrence as a sympathetic springboard to his second failed Presidential bid should tell you all you need to know about the man. He is not worthy of respect, only contempt. If benign name-calling is the worst he and his subordinates are subjected to, we should all be so lucky.
"Anyway, who gives a rat's
May 15, 2008 - 19:26 ET by Clear thinker"Anyway, who gives a rat's a** what this ambulance-chasing shyster thinks?"
His hairdresser? I mean stylist.
"Abstain from McCain"
Yeah, I suppose if I was
May 15, 2008 - 19:58 ET by fitzfongYeah, I suppose if I was getting $400 a haircut I could be made to care.
Except when we need money.
May 14, 2008 - 20:45 ET by balboaExcept when we need money. Aren't we in debt to a lot of foreigners?
So I hear...
May 14, 2008 - 21:28 ET by Indiana JoeMaybe we'd have more money if we stopped giving so much of it away.
"Sorry I don't have my mortgage payment this month, I used the money to open a soup kitchen."
Hey, there's an idea. I wonder if we could go over the Foreign Aid records, and deduct past aid to our debtors as credit?
Works for me. ;^)
Only in the Democrat party,
May 14, 2008 - 20:09 ET by RMROnly in the Democrat party, an "endorsement" by an all-time loser like John Edwards could hold such significance. Sadly, with the "maverick" at the top of the ticket, Republicans might not be able to grasp this opportunity and crush these morons in the fall. Pity.
Mark,
May 14, 2008 - 20:10 ET by R D HelmI don't know about you, but every time I hear some bleeding-heart MSM story lamenting the shortage of medical practitioners in many rural areas of this country, the very first name that pops into my head is always John Edwards.
Edwards sucks... But damn
May 14, 2008 - 20:15 ET by Clear thinkerEdwards sucks...
But damn he had good hair today!
"Abstain from McCain"
Your comments brings back
May 14, 2008 - 20:45 ET by celatorYour comments bring back the famous video clip of this sweet boy primping like a school girl in front of a mirror before he went on stage. ;+]. What a duffus.
So what
May 14, 2008 - 20:44 ET by nkviking75I hope a video surfaces of Bill Hemmer's interview with Brit Hume on today's Election HQ program. Hemmer asked Hume for his reaction. Unfortunately I didn't write it down or record it, but Hume's answer was on the order of "Who cares?" or "So what?" Whatever it was, it was a perfect response.
The question should be, what did Edwards want for his endorsement? VP? (He lost that race last time.) Supreme Court (shudder!)? Attorney General? Gag!
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
How are Edwards' remarks
May 14, 2008 - 20:52 ET by JerHow are Edwards' remarks anti-American? Anti-Bush administration, yes...but, not anti-American. It is Edwards' opinion that the policies of the current President have created a wall concealing the true America--a great nation which is and should be a beacon of hope to the rest of the world. But the wrong image is being projected--or stated differently, the right image is being obscured--because of bad policies.
Edwards may be dead wrong in his assessment, or he may be overstating the magnitude of the "wall", but he is not guilty of anti-Americanism.
Jer
Jer-Jer-Jer... You are
May 14, 2008 - 20:56 ET by Clear thinkerJer-Jer-Jer...
You are such a disapointment.
"Abstain from McCain"
Sorry to disappoint, Clear...
May 14, 2008 - 21:02 ET by JerSorry to disappoint, Clear...Look, I'm not saying I agree with Edwards. As a matter of fact, I don't. But neither do I believe his words imply a lack of love for this country, or should be construed as anti-Americanism.
Jer
Haven't you learned that
May 14, 2008 - 21:05 ET by balboaHaven't you learned that anything perceived as being against Bush's policies overseas is inherently anti-American?
Bal & Jer... See TM's
May 14, 2008 - 21:10 ET by Clear thinkerBal & Jer...
See TM's post below.
"Abstain from McCain"
For Anyone
May 14, 2008 - 21:24 ET by the curatorClear or anyone who'd like to take it...
I understand your dislike of Sen. Edwards. Don't dispute it, either.
But, my question is... is there something wrong with 1- admitting the US's reputation isn't the greatest right now.. and .... 2- saying we need to try to fix it?
I know some are saying Sen. Edwards 'hates America.' But, it seems to me he just wants America to be even more respected than it is now.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
Reputation according to
May 14, 2008 - 21:34 ET by FoolicanReputation according to whom? Reputation according to the Palestinians, the Iranians, the Israelis, the Chinese, the North Koreans? If so, I understand your point, but we shouldn't have to ingratiate ourselves to our ideological counterparts.
our reputation is tons
May 14, 2008 - 21:43 ET by TruthMongerour reputation is tons better than it used to be - I was around for the cold war, bud...
our global rep has never been better...
unless you actually believe the MSM propaganda...
travel abroad and get the untarnished versions yourself...
I have
May 14, 2008 - 21:46 ET by the curatorI have travelled abroad. I've been told by many people who were in charge not to let it be known we were American.
Its sad, but we've been told by MANY people (here and abroad) to say we were Canadians.
This is what we were told to practice both in safe cities and in other places where... I felt less than safe.
I would disagree that we are held in better regard now than during the Cold War. I was around for it, too, by the way.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
http://newsbusters.org/blogs
May 14, 2008 - 21:58 ET by TruthMongerhttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/05/14/edwards-endorses-worldview-usa-bully#comment-612787
i travel abroad too - in parts of the UK you better not let it be known you are Muslim or Pakistani
in mainland Europe there are all sorts of ethnicities that need to keep their mouths shut
hell if you support a rival football team in the wrong neighborhood YOU WILL LITERALLY GET THE BLOOD AND PISS ABSOLUTELY BEAT OUT OF YOU
this is not an exclusively American phenomenon, it's a centuries-old human phenomenon
To curator - One reason
May 14, 2008 - 22:27 ET by DelsaAmericans are told sometimes to keep a low profile is because we are easy marks.
We are easy targets for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes it is because kidnapings are common in some parts of the world.
As a flight attendant I traveled extensivly over seas and to South America. The world can be a very dangerous place but not because we are not liked - rather because we are easy targets.
Also known as suckers.
As someone who spends a
May 15, 2008 - 18:35 ET by BDAs someone who spends a great deal of time overseas, and has for the past 23 years, there is a difference between a nation that is regularly taken advantage of and one that is respected.
People, particularly Euro's LOVE us when we make them feel comfortable with their inadequacy. (Example: Oh, that is okay, do away with you last armor unit, we will cover for you in Afghanistan, etc) or we are sticking cash in their pockets (Don't worry OXFAM, we will send our nations entire stockage of MRE's to Rwanda...You can keep sending the politically connected administrator to lose most of them)
But who do they come to when it is time to deploy a pair of Nuclear carriers off a coast of some nation who is holding hostages. Let me clue you, it usually is not flying the Tricolour of France.
You have been worried about being "Loved" not "Respected".
I will take respect any day.
Not Terrorists
May 14, 2008 - 21:43 ET by the curatorEarlier Mr. Finkelstein even admitted there are areas in the world - not Islamo-fanatics -, education, productive members of the world, who don't have the best of opinions of the US right now.
I agree, we shouldn't ingratiate ourselves (good word, by the way)... but, and I said this in another post... I just think that the more the productive members of the world like and respect us the easier it is to be a world leader.
And, I hope we can all be in some agreement that there are parts of the globe where we want our image to be better.
That's all I was saying.
And, I think thats what Mr. Edwards was intimates towards as well.
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
and there are all kinds of
May 14, 2008 - 21:53 ET by TruthMongerand there are all kinds of people that dislike the French, the Brits, India, China, Isreal, Egypt - every single nation is unpopular in many ways - so what's the point of dwelling on this - so some people dislike us - it happens no matter what we do - NO MATTER WHAT WE DO BILLIONS WILL DISLIKE US...
Dislike is not necessarily a bad thing - dislike can spring up from all sorts of healthy situations - eating your vegetables, getting a crown from the dentist, a drill sargeant kicking a boot up your ass - which will save your ass on the battlefield...
This "Amerca is disliked" BS is nothing more than a distraction and complete waste of time - it's a misleading DNC cheap shot for petty partisan points for a political party that is bankrupt of ideas and desperate for relevancy
But..
May 14, 2008 - 21:57 ET by the curatorthere are all kinds of people that dislike the French, the Brits, India, China, Isreal, Egypt
But, if we hold ourselves to a higher regard than anyone else... shouldn't we expect to try and exemplify that everywhere else?
NO MATTER WHAT WE DO BILLIONS WILL DISLIKE US
Does that mean we should stop trying to change their minds? And I'm not worried about all the billions. But there are many out there I'd like back on our side.
This "Amerca is disliked" BS is nothing more than a distraction and complete waste of time
That's your opinion and that's fine. But, you don't think there are areas of the world that don't like us that should? And you don't think that harms us in anyway?
"I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building."
-George W. Bush, October 11, 2000
live by proper morals and
May 14, 2008 - 22:02 ET by TruthMongerlive by proper morals and ideals and let the chips fall where they may...
I'm a Christian fundie, and being crucified daily is part of the deal - if people don't hate me alot I start to worry if I'm doing the right thing...
Trying to "be liked" by as many people as possible is not a healthy goal in my opinion...
That wasn't the goal of my Lord and Savior...
Living righteously is my goal - and in this sin-soaked world I will be hated by billions for it...
Am I in a twilight zone? I agree with everything TruthMonger
May 14, 2008 - 22:16 ET by Dee Bunksaid in this thread and I'm kind of shocked that it's coming from him. Other countries have never liked us for being the biggest country that is powerful and successful
Mark had the best point that proves everything. People flock to come and live here more so than any other country. That is where the proof is. We will know that everyone likes us when we are poor and destitute and they give us lots of charity. We can be one America of lovable losers.
No thanks Obama and Edwards.
curator, I do not give a rat's left gonad what the rest of the
May 14, 2008 - 22:29 ET by R D Helmcurator, I do not give a rat's left gonad what the rest of the world thinks about us.
Does that mean we should stop trying to change their minds?
If it means wussifying ourselves to win the rest of the world's approval, then yes.
Most of the criticism directed our way is fueled by envy, period.
Funny how these same people always come running to us when they get their asses in a bind.
Maybe next time they come knocking, perhaps we should just refuse to answer the door.
Having traveled to
May 14, 2008 - 23:04 ET by Eileen RightHaving traveled to numerous locations in Asia / Mid East, I have experienced some hostility. But after interacting with locals on an individual basis I feel they realize that we are not what their Government / Press represent. Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to make direct contact with a country's entire population, so preconceived misconceptions will persist.
Americans are a kind and generous people, admit it.
American Dream – 10,000 politicians swimming to Europe with a lawyer under each arm.
American Dream – 10,000
May 14, 2008 - 23:37 ET by R D HelmAmerican Dream – 10,000 politicians swimming to Europe with a lawyer under each arm.
LOL-Eileen, would it not be better of said politicians were at least carrying one on their back as well?
I mean, that would be an additional 10,000 barristers being removed from not only our already over-crowded court rooms, but from the gene pool as well. :-)
Oh, and welcome to NewsBusters.
if that's the case he
May 14, 2008 - 20:56 ET by TruthMongerif that's the case he should have said the Bush administration is perceived as a bully, right...?
Right you are
May 14, 2008 - 21:04 ET by DelsaTruthMonger
You hit the nail right on the head.
Edwards said exactly what he said. Can't escape the fact that words mean things.
Edwards hates America, Obama hates America, and together they are a perfect couple.
Both are ready willing and able to screw America.
And don't forget, Delsa..
May 14, 2008 - 21:17 ET by JerAnd don't forget, Delsa...as a white Democrat, Edwards [according to a poster earlier today] also hates children, his father, Jews, his family, the Bible, God, and the troops.
Jer
Are you attempting humor, Jer?
May 14, 2008 - 21:30 ET by DelsaI did not read the earlier post. Therefore, your comment leaves searching for its jist?