Is it the province of a "correspondent" of an ostensibly objective network to proclaim the tactics of a presidential candidate "inappropriate"? Apparently so, when the network is MSNBC and the correspondent David Shuster. The frequent sidekick to Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann got into it with Pat Buchanan on today's Morning Joe.
Shuster spoke out against Hillary's rough-'n-tumble end-game tactics, while a feisty Buchanan defended Clinton's right to go down swinging. Shuster sounded less the reporter and more the DNC member concerned about damage to the party's presumptive presidential candidate. When Mike Barnicle got into the act, he wanted to be sure not to be seen as insulting the Clintons.
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DAVID SHUSTER: What is the plausible scenario for what she's doing now, and do you agree, the only plausible scenario is that she's just trying to permanently damage Barack Obama?
MIKE BARNICLE: What about this one, David? What about the fact that, listen, not speaking ill of either former President Clinton or Senator Clinton [God forbid!], but this is all they've ever done in their lives. They've never worked at a private job, they've never worked in corporate America [Rose law firm?], they've been public people for 30 years. All they know is running! That's all they know: that's who they are.
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Cut to a clip of Bill Clinton on the stump in West Virginia saying that Hillary won Indiana because of "people like you, and places like this." Shuster smelled a rat.
SHUSTER: Pat, when he says "people like you" to an audience in West Virginia, and he's referring to Indiana, what's the code there?PAT BUCHANAN: He's talking about, frankly, he's talking about the white working class, the silent majority, the middle Americans, the core of the Democratic party, the working people.
SHUSTER: You just made my point, Pat. Now explain to me, how does that, how does that kind of reference, how does that help the Democratic party in the fall, given that Barack Obama's going to be the nominee?
BUCHANAN [temperature rising]: Very simple. He's not trying to help the Democratic party in the fall!
SHUSTER [or might it have been Barnicle?]: Exactly!
BUCHANAN: He's trying to win West Virginia for his wife!
SHUSTER [Barnicle?]: Exactly!
BUCHANAN: What is wrong with that for heaven's sakes? He's out there working the folks he wants. What would be wrong with Barack Obama going down to South Philly, or going down to Philly, and saying "we can make history, folks. We can win this thing. Don't let 'em say we can't do it!"? There's nothing wrong with that.
SHUSTER: Here is what's wrong with it, Pat. The superdelegates are saying look, there's nothing wrong with Hillary Clinton saying here's why you people in West Virginia should elect me. But when the conversation transfers to "those people," Barack Obama, my opponent said, it becomes here is a whole host of reasons why you should not vote for him. That's a very different strategy.
BUCHANAN: David, I don't care what strategy. She is still fighting with the longest of shots for the Democratic nomination, and she's got the same right to appeal to her voters as he does to his voters. For heaven's sakes, who are we to be telling her how to run the last campaign of her life? I agree with Barnicle: the Clintons have all their chips on this. I read the New York Times, and they're arrogantly giving advice to every campaign and candidate, what they gotta to do and what they can't do.
SHUSTER: Pat, I think you misunderstand me. There's nothing wrong with her fighting for this nomination. But a lot of superdelegates say there's something wrong when she's tearing down her opponent, or trying to make an argument against her opponent in the process.
BUCHANAN: Then tell the superdelegates to go come out for Obama! These gutless wonders are sitting up there hiding on the hill, unable to come out and make a decision.
. . .
SHUSTER: Here's where the superdelegates are. They have been told by Hillary Clinton, by her campaign, give us a little more time. We're going to run nothing but a positive campaign. We're going to lift the Democratic party up over the next couple of weeks. But then you see these sort of subtle jabs by Bill Clinton. You see these jabs by Howard Wolfson, condemning Barack Obama for not going to West Virginia. You see Hillary Clinton condemning Barack Obama for not debating her in Oregon [which he pronounces Ore-GONE]. The superdelegates have been told by the Clinton campaign, we're going to run like Mike Huckabee. We're going to run nothing but positive at the end. And it only takes them 12 hours and they can't live up to that promise.
Ooh, they're being mean to Barack. Make them stop!
BUCHANAN: David, you sound like the counsel for the defense on the superdelegates' cowardice. Look, if these guys want to end this thing, if they want to end it, end it. We see what she's doing. She's fightin'. She's gonna go down fightin' in West Virginia and saying come on out here and fight me in the Mountains State and I'll beat ya!SHUSTER: I agree, she has every right. But she can't say "I'm going to run a positive campaign" and then have all these jabs at the same time. She can't do that!
BARNICLE: And what about her talking about "white people" yesterday?
SHUSTER: Exactly! She should not be raising that point. Pat Buchanan, Mike Barnicle, they can talk as much as anybody wants, but she should, I think it's inappropriate for her to be making that point.
Got that, Hillary? Howard Dean—whoops!—David Shuster has decreed the rules of engagement.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
















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...and to think just a few
May 9, 2008 - 08:36 ET by tater...and to think just a few months ago, a comment from Shuster got him suspended from MSNBC thanks to the Clinton machine.
I can't possibly see why the Shuster would be in the tank for Obama.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
David Shuster
May 9, 2008 - 08:42 ET by well99No bias there/sarc off.Maybe he should wear his I love Obama shirt.Most folks already know he is Democratic Shill.
Morning Joe= DNC meeting
May 9, 2008 - 09:13 ET by dronetekI watched MJ this morning and I couldnt help feeling like I was watching a DNC strategy meeting. That entiure network has become such a joke.
I agree
May 9, 2008 - 13:04 ET by well99All they are missing is the DNC banners.
I'm wondering about
May 9, 2008 - 08:52 ET by KillgraveI'm wondering about something. We have all these liberals doing everything they can to throw Clinton under the bus, including her former supporters. They are doing this because The Party is more important than an individual, no matter how much they may like her.
But what if Clinton actually pulls this off? Is she going to forgive all these idiots, especially former "friends" who are now stabbing her in the back?
For the sake of expediency and getting things done, she would need to. But we're talking about Hillary Rodham here. Is there a park big enough to hide all the bodies?
Hillary has every right to
May 9, 2008 - 09:01 ET by suzycreamcheeseHillary has every right to keep on running her campaign. The media need to lay off her and stop telling her what to do. Their bias never shows as brightly as when they continue to broadcast about how she needs to throw in the towel. They're the media, they're just supposed to report the news, not influence the outcome of an election like they've got some stake in it.
If they have so much faith in their god Obama, then they have nothing to worry about. They can just let Hillary crash and burn like they're predicting she will.
Last campaign?
May 9, 2008 - 09:09 ET by heldmywLast campaign of her life? Yer dreamin' Pal!
Hillary will whack Obama as much as she can to set up a run in 2012. By then, Obama will have gone the way of the unlamented John Kerry, and she can run as the "youth" candidate against McCain.
Clintons are the political undead. You can't kill them, they just keep coming back, coming back, coming back...
She's not leaving until she does as much damage as possible.
People Like You?
May 9, 2008 - 09:24 ET by HypocriteHaterCut to a clip of Bill Clinton on the stump in West Virginia saying that Hillary won Indiana because of "people like you, and places like this." Shuster smelled a rat.
Shuster wants to interpret "people like you" to be racist because it's being said by a Clinton, and we all know how Shuster feels about the Clintons now. According to him, it can't possibly mean "people like you ...who support Hillary", because he can't give white people, who he disapproves of, the benefit of the doubt of NOT being racist.
But when Obama says "typical white person", I don't remember Shuster getting all up in arms about THAT statement being racist.
David Shuster
May 9, 2008 - 09:40 ET by FAR52Any time that I see him guest hosting Morning Joe, I turn the channel. How can they possibly justify his role on that show? And while I'm on my soap box, how on earth can NBC news allow Keith Olbermann to moderate election night coverage? Can't they find anyone that at least pretends to be objective?
They could always just use Jackie Meretsky
May 9, 2008 - 09:46 ET by sarcasmoWho would make it a "who cares about objectivity??" choice for some of us...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
...and the keep talking
May 9, 2008 - 10:04 ET by tater...and the keep talking about her getting married, brings a tear to my eye.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
Political Hypnosis
May 9, 2008 - 09:51 ET by KC MulvilleA candidate is supposed to avoid making arguments against her opponent?
It seems as if the Democrat party as a whole has fallen for the Obama Message. The Obama Message is “Surrender your agenda for mine, and that’s how we achieve unity.” They’re telling Hillary to “come on, just surrender, make it easy for Obama.” And we can pretty much bet the house that this will be the Obama strategy in the general election. They’re going to avoid details and specifics, and claim that we should all support Obama because it will unify the country. Obama is the only way to unify the country. So if we want unity, we’d better do as Obama says. Come on. Make it easy for Obama. Stop fighting it. (“Pay attention to my watch … you’re falling into a deep sleep …”)
Well, it was a regular Obama
May 9, 2008 - 11:25 ET by marpelWell, it was a regular Obama Love Fest this morning between, Shuster, Kiki and Mika (Kiki and Mika are 4 letter words).
I don't know about ya'll, but there's a funny look in David Shuster's eye. He's got a weird stare, doesn't he? I don't now, it's sort of a "Serial Killer" stare.
Face mechanics
May 9, 2008 - 12:32 ET by KC MulvilleWhen Shuster speaks, every muscle in his face stretches. It's probably just a way to fully pronounce his words, but it's an unsettling thing to watch sometimes.
KC, that's it...And when
May 9, 2008 - 12:53 ET by marpelKC, that's it...And when he's talking, he's got the "dead behind the eyes" stare. The eyebrows don't move. Creepy as hell...
KC and marpel... I saw
May 9, 2008 - 14:32 ET by bigtimerKC and marpel...
I saw this today too, the only one that made sense at all this morning was Buchanan, and I am including Peggy Noonan and her opinion about Hillary and her using the white working people phrase...as for Mile Wide Mouth Shuster...I can rarely watch him when he talks...he is and always has been sleazy to me.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Hi, Bigtimer, I have been
May 9, 2008 - 15:47 ET by marpelHi, Bigtimer, I have been having problems stomaching Peggy Noonan for a good while now. I don't care if she was a speechwriter for Reagan and is considered to be a conservative. She has been incredibly disrespectful of Bush in her columns. I don't like that dramatic demeanor of hers either...she comes across as a fraudulent drama queen.
But, Shuster takes the creep factor to many levels. He's what I call "Skeevy".
marpel... Well we are in
May 9, 2008 - 15:55 ET by bigtimermarpel...
Well we are in the minority here, nothing new for me at times, as far as my opinion of Noonan goes I think she has become an over-rated snob for the last decade or so.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I agree; she's very preachy
May 9, 2008 - 16:02 ET by motherbeltI agree; she's very preachy and "lecture-y" (made-up word LOL). I don't know when it started, but it's how she is now. As part of that, her columns seem to get longer and longer.
Agreed, Mother and Bigtimer.
May 9, 2008 - 17:06 ET by marpelAgreed, Mother and Bigtimer. She's a bloviatrix...(word by Marpel). And when she talks, she has some sort of weird, pained look on her face. Someone convinced her that her opinion is of utmost importance and she bought it. LOL
marpel... Lol...I get a
May 9, 2008 - 17:22 ET by bigtimermarpel...
Lol...I get a kick out of that word...that too fits.
Excellent work there gal...
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
MB- I believe the word
May 9, 2008 - 17:16 ET by Tim the EnchanterMB- I believe the word you're looking for is "pedantic".
When Shuster speaks, every
May 9, 2008 - 16:01 ET by motherbeltWhen Shuster speaks, every muscle in his face stretches.
I know what you mean, it's very annoying.
It's like watching Obama speak when he starts to blow out his cheeks on some words...it drives me crazy!