Q. Is there any level to which Helen Thomas won't stoop?
A. Apparently not.
That's my conclusion, based on Thomas's exchange during today's press gaggle with White House Press Secretary Dana Perino. Here is the front page of today's Washington Post to which Thomas refers [warning: graphic image]. A slide-show from WaPo's web edition contains another photo of what appears to be the same child, with this legend:
Two-year-old Ali Hussein is pulled from the rubble of his family's home in the Shiite stronghold of Sadr City in Baghdad, Iraq on Tuesday, April 29, 2008. The child, who later died in hospital, was in one of four homes allegedly destroyed by U.S. missiles. More than two dozen people were killed when Shiite militants ambushed a U.S. patrol in Baghdad's embattled Sadr City district, bringing the death toll in area on Tuesday to more than 30, a U.S. military spokesman and Iraqi officials said. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)
Here's the exchange between Thomas and Perino.
HELEN THOMAS: Do you think it's worth a million Iraqi deaths, to continue to bomb the Iraqis who did nothing to us?
Story Continues Below Ad ↓DANA PERINO: Helen, our soldiers work extremely hard to make sure that any time they're carrying out an operation, they do not --
THOMAS: I'm not saying that. Are they bombing people -- did you see the front page of the Post today, a baby?
PERINO: -- that they do not -- they do everything they possibly can to make sure that no innocent civilians are killed.
THOMAS: Oh, come on. How can you say that?
PERINO: Helen, if you want to denigrate our military, many of whom are in this room today, you can do that.
THOMAS: I'm not denigrating our military.
MS. PERINO: Yes, you are.
THOMAS: I'm saying we're bombing Iraqis for no --
PERINO: And who is bombing them? You're absolutely talking about -- our military goes to great lengths to make sure that people are protected, and this President stands behind them 100 percent.
THOMAS: Are they dying or not?
PERINO: It is extremely tragic that a young child died. I understand that that is a young mother's child, and that woman is probably grieving, unlike anything I will ever feel.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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Helen Thomas- should be in
April 30, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Tim the EnchanterHelen Thomas- should be in the Guiness Book of World Records for the person whacked longest, hardest, and most often, with the ugly stick. And that's just talking about her MIND.
She can't help but stoop
April 30, 2008 - 17:40 ET by Great DebaterQ. Is there any level to which Helen Thomas won't stoop?
No Mark, as short as this woman is, the real question is "Is there any level to which Helen Thomas could rise"
I guess in Helen's world, when our troops are fired on, they can only fire back if and only if, they are sure there is zero chance of any innocents getting hurt. Think our enemies know this fact? Think they use this fact? Think they remember us leaving huge, clearly visible weapons stockpiles completely untouched in Vietnam because a school or hospital was nearby?
We've killed a million
April 30, 2008 - 13:16 ET by Roger the ShrubberWe've killed a million Iraqis now? I thought it was 600,000?
600,000
April 30, 2008 - 13:36 ET by MassConservRoger, 600,000 is, like, sooo last year. It absolutely HAS to be near a million by now. Has to.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
You forgot your "</sarc>".
April 30, 2008 - 13:53 ET by CortillaenYou forgot your "</sarc>". Now I'm afraid I have to kill you.
</sarc> ;)
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
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Oops, I did forget the /sarc
April 30, 2008 - 14:31 ET by MassConservOops, I did forget the /sarc :-$
You forgot to shout..."AND
April 30, 2008 - 15:04 ET by taterYou forgot to shout..."AND THAT'S A FACT!!!" at the end.
"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather
Any number is OK with the Libs...
April 30, 2008 - 14:30 ET by on-the-rocksas long as it is larger than the last numbers they used. [That is until they exceed the total number of Iraqi citizens.]
If I had Dana Perino's job, I wouldn't have it for long, as I doubt that I could suffer the idiocy of Helen Thomas.
I would be so tempted to scream at her..."We don't kill civilians on purpose. They are willing to blow up their own children to kill us.
Can you see the difference?"
60,000 is much closer and WE
April 30, 2008 - 19:04 ET by Norto60,000 is much closer and WE did not kill most of them, their own ilk did most of the killing.
NB! Anyone paying attention to who posts here and what?
Obviously, you missed my
April 30, 2008 - 19:24 ET by Roger the ShrubberObviously, you missed my subtle sarcasm.
RogTheShrub
April 30, 2008 - 19:37 ET by MrShyYes, Norto, Roger forgot "/sarc".... a harmless mistake, and we forgive him.
(oh and, /sarc, for this post, too :))
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Why is that hag permitted
April 30, 2008 - 13:17 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltin the press corp? Aren't there reporters waiting who actually want to ask questions rather than bait an argument?
Helen Thomas has been given
April 30, 2008 - 13:20 ET by motherbeltHelen Thomas has been given double privilege: She is allowed to attend press briefings even though she is not a reporter covering the White House any more; and she is allowed to keep her seat in the front row.
She now has gone far past abusing those privileges. They should be revoked.
Revoke her press
April 30, 2008 - 13:40 ET by CortillaenRevoke her press privileges? Heck, I want her tried for treason. "Do you think it's worth a million Iraqi deaths, to continue to bomb the Iraqis who did nothing to us?" To make a patently false statement which serves no purpose but to encourage our enemies is treason in my book. It's bad enough that they ignore the good events and report the bad ones to death, but lying about is way too far.
One of my favorite comics does an excellent job of mocking the media idiots today.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
Typhoid Mary
April 30, 2008 - 13:20 ET by CellaWhy hasn't this Typhoid Mary been banned from the White House press briefings?
And I bet she's got a breath you "could trot a mouse on."
I'm guessing she's waiting
April 30, 2008 - 15:48 ET by motherbeltI'm guessing she's waiting for a spot to open up on "The View."
Perfect
April 30, 2008 - 16:28 ET by CellaWhy didn't I think of that? "The View", a perfect place for her to honk!
Helen Thomas is a disgusting
April 30, 2008 - 13:21 ET by Free ThinkerHelen Thomas is a disgusting human being. I applaud Dana for calling Helen out for denigrating our brave military, I only wish Dana had made the point that it is the terrorists that hide behind women and children and draw them into the line of fire and thus Helen should go ask them if it is worth killing innocent people for their evil desires.
I can just hear that
April 30, 2008 - 13:23 ET by bigtimerI can just hear that screech of a voice when she is making her usual accusations during these things...the woman cannot retire soon enough, in fact it should of been years and years ago...she should of left when her secret love Clinton left...
Good job Dana...fighting with that enemy within all the time must get old...you deserve an award.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Questions for Hell- en:
April 30, 2008 - 13:24 ET by mattmDo you think the terrorists and insurgents should stop using women and children as human shields?
Do you think the Iraqis should govern themselves or return to dictatorship?
Do you think the terrorists would show the same level of restraint the coalition has shown if they had similar military power?
And one more: ever think about retirement?
Hell-ish
April 30, 2008 - 14:10 ET by Chris McMullenYeah, maybe just maybe 'insurgents' should fight us on the battlefield, instead of out of their homes. Of course, that question would never cross the Hag's mind.
Not to diminish the death oa
April 30, 2008 - 13:25 ET by Roger the ShrubberNot to diminish the death oa a child, regardless od the curcumstances, but the name Ali Hussein appears quite often in stories of Iraq (go Google it). I hope this is not another "Green Helmet Guy" situation...
RtS... Your thoughts here
April 30, 2008 - 13:52 ET by bigtimerRtS...
Your thoughts here also crossed my mind too...glad you posted this.... it is food for thought.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
THOMAS: I'm saying we're
April 30, 2008 - 13:26 ET by bassndudeTHOMAS: I'm saying we're bombing Iraqis for no --
Dana: Then your an idiot.
THOMAS: Are they dying or not?
Dana: I thought that was the idea. We bomb and Terrorists die. We can not see, from the air, what or who, they are hiding behind. If they would be a man about it, then we would not have these problems. But we all know they are cowards, and hide behind women and children.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Helen Thomas
April 30, 2008 - 13:29 ET by Tom in NCDo us all a favor, DROP DEAD! you old, wrinkled, black hearted B*TCH!!!!
Its ok Tom, dont sugar coat
April 30, 2008 - 13:33 ET by bassndudeIts ok Tom, dont sugar coat it. We can take it. Tell us how you really feel...:-)
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Don't worry
April 30, 2008 - 13:44 ET by Tom in NCDon't worry, I won't. I call em as I see em, this women is pure evil and has a face that would launch a thousand bats...out of hell
Amen, to that Tom. She is
April 30, 2008 - 14:32 ET by terrigAmen, to that Tom. She is pathetic and her expiration date should have come up a long time ago.
The irony of it all... her
April 30, 2008 - 13:33 ET by Tim the EnchanterThe irony of it all... her sitting there mooning about the death of one innocent child, while ignoring (or even applauding) the deaths of hundreds, thousands, millions of innocent unborn children in abortion mills across this country. What's the difference between the two children- other than location and food/oxygen supply? Frackin hypocrite.
Helen Thomas is from
April 30, 2008 - 13:35 ET by marpelHelen Thomas is from Lebanese ancestry, and so am I. I am ashamed to say that. She must think that a woman of Arab descent must "defend" all Arabs, and that's just not true. This is war, and in war, some people get hurt and killed. She's a troublemaker and I wish she would just go away. What an embarrassment to my culture.
Is that Helen, or is it just
April 30, 2008 - 13:35 ET by Tim the EnchanterIs that Helen, or is it just her cadaver? Inquiring minds want to know....
Don't get my hopes
April 30, 2008 - 16:23 ET by CortillaenDon't get my hopes up.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
The troll speaks
April 30, 2008 - 13:43 ET by BEGRUNTWhy is this senile, disgusting old windbag still allowed in the White House press room? She never has anything rational to say, just sound bites to inflame and provoke. Does she keep her seat out of respect, considering she's been in the White House press corps since the Lincoln administration?
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Ambushing the White House
April 30, 2008 - 13:59 ET by CobraMan"Are they dying or not?"
That's what happens when militants ambush our patrols and then hide in civilian structures and use little children as shields when we retaliate. We don‘t do that. We face our enemys in the open, face to face if possible.
Helen is living under a delusion. It's the militants that are killing, maiming, and destroying everything in Iraq, not out military. We're doing everything in our power to stop people from indiscriminately killing men, women, and children. But I guess that concept is a bit too much for her to understand.
"Do you think it's worth a million Iraqi deaths, to continue to bomb the Iraqis who did nothing to us?"
Helen is reliving WWII when allied bombing runs were leveling entire cities. The main reason that this war is taking so long is because we no longer indiscriminately destroy entire cities and countries to gain victory. We do it the hard way now, house by house and room by room if necessary. This is to eliminate civilian casualties as much as humanly possible. It's the terrorists that are using civilian houses and public building in which to launch attacks against out troops and those of the ligitimate Iraqi government.
“I'm saying we're bombing Iraqis for no --“ for no what, apparent reason?
Hay Helen, wake up and face reality, will ya? We're the good guys here, not the militants. We’re trying to protect the Iraqi’s so that they may finally live in peace and find a way to make a better life for themselves and their children. That makes us the good guys.
The militants don't want that. They kill everyone who gets in their way simply because they want total control of everyone and their lives. That makes them the bad guys.
Helen is too blinded by her own hatred of the Bush administration to
see this clearly. In her mind, every death in Iraq is caused by our
military and if we leave, all will be grins and giggles in the Middle
East. She’s crazy, though. The historical evidence points to a complete breakdown
of civilian authority and control when we leave a country too soon.
Millions of lives are dependent upon us and our continuing support of
Iraq and it’s people. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
HELEN THOMAS: Do you think
April 30, 2008 - 14:00 ET by BDHELEN THOMAS: Do you think it's worth a million Iraqi deaths, to continue to bomb the Iraqis who did nothing to us?
Helen shows the lack of "Being Historically Minded" that my instructors used to rail against.
She imputes malice to the US Military actions towards the civilian populous in Iraq "Who did nothing to us."
Does she similarly impute malice from the US military towards the Civilian residents of Caen France who were killed by US bombs in June 1944?
Does she similarly impute malice from the US military towards the Civilian residents of Brest RFrance killed when US bombers attempted to clear the Germans from the port area in the summer of 1944?
Does she similarly impute malice from the US military towards the Civilian residents of San Pietro who were killed by US bombers attempting to clean the Germans out of occuppied Italy?
I doubt it, as these actions occured when liberal saint FDR was in power.
Short answer, there is no malice and US targeteers take every effort to minimize civilian casualties to the point of actually canceling missions if necessary. But we shan't hear of the from Helen..
Ozone
April 30, 2008 - 14:40 ET by sanergononlibThe old drunk that lived under the overpass near our house began to rant like Helen when he was near the end. He even looked something like her, only better. When he really got going and started following us home from school we'd throw him something like a Mars bar to shut him up. He'd eat it paper and all and would smack his lips and look pensive (or dazed) for a while. We got to where we would stop and sit in the grass and wait for the fog to lift and see if he would continue where he left off. More often than not, he would....kind of like Helen, as dependable as the old drunk (except he was more fun).
"I'm not denigrating our
April 30, 2008 - 14:20 ET by mikej"I'm not denigrating our military. " Oh really Helen????? Let's look at your Daily Kos like question in context and please tell me how in the world you aren't denigrating the military?
DANA PERINO: Helen, our soldiers work extremely hard to make sure that any time they're carrying out an operation, they do not --
THOMAS: I'm not saying that. Are they bombing people -- did you see the front page of the Post today, a baby?
PERINO: -- that they do not -- they do everything they possibly can to make sure that no innocent civilians are killed.
THOMAS: Oh, come on. How can you say that?
PERINO: Helen, if you want to denigrate our military, many of whom are in this room today, you can do that.
THOMAS: I'm not denigrating our military.
MS. PERINO: Yes, you are.
So there you have it. The extremely hot and conservative Dana Perino says that our military do everything they can to avoid things like this and you say "Oh come on! How can you say that?" You are saying by that question you think the extremely hot and conservative Dana Perino's answer about the military trying to avoid this type of thing isn't true.
More partisan stupidity from someone...
April 30, 2008 - 14:32 ET by jazbo...who, like her namesake, has the face that launched a thousand ships. Away, in this case.
"Was this the face that launch'd a thousand ships
And burnt the topless towers of Ilium?
Sweet Helen, make me immortal with a kiss."
- Marlow
Those who believe in nothing will believe anything.
Please !!
April 30, 2008 - 14:33 ET by mytwocentsWould someone PLEASE check her expiration date? I'm quite sure she is well past her time.
I am the only one
April 30, 2008 - 14:36 ET by TjexciteAm I the only one that is looking forward to Helen not attacking Barack or Hillary the way that she has done to Dana and Pres Bush when they (the Dems) can't do anything that they have been promising like leaving Iraq ASAP with no bloodshed.
With any hope Newsbusters will be there to show her hypocrisy of hating any one with a R behind their name and loving a person with a D, even when they do the same thing.
The Reaper came for her one
April 30, 2008 - 14:36 ET by bassndudeThe Reaper came for her one night....took one look and left. When she dies, Satan will be banging on the Gates of Heaven begging for, at the least, a new place to hang out.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
She is SO right. I
April 30, 2008 - 14:45 ET by Jack BauerShe is SO right.
I remember seeing those devestating old Movietone reels of Ed Murrow holding up that shot of a German baby murdered by Eisenhower when he ordered the bombing of Berlin.
Jack....remember the puff piece
April 30, 2008 - 16:13 ET by BEGRUNTThat she did on Jefferson Davis's comments after the battle of Gettysburg?
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
We have found a witch- may
April 30, 2008 - 14:53 ET by Tim the EnchanterWe have found a witch- may we burn her?
The Witch:
I'm not a witch I'm not a witch!
Sir Bedevere:
But you are dressed as one
The Witch:
*They* dressed me up like this!
Crowd:
We didn't! We didn't...
The Witch:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
Sir Bedevere:
[lifts up her false nose] Well?
Peasant 1:
Well, we did do the nose.
Sir Bedevere:
The nose?
Peasant 1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
Crowd:
Yeah! Burn her! Burn her!
Sir Bedevere:
Did you dress her up like this?
Peasant 1:
No!
Peasant 3, Peasant 2:
No!
Peasant 3:
No!
Peasant 1:
No!
Peasant 3, Peasant 2:
No!
Peasant 1:
Yes!
Peasant 2:
Yes!
Peasant 1:
Yeah a bit.
Peasant 3:
A bit!
Peasant 1, Peasant 2:
A bit!
Peasant 2:
a bit
Peasant 1:
But she has got a wart!
It's a fair cop.
April 30, 2008 - 14:55 ET by HermanoIt's a fair cop.
*sniff*
April 30, 2008 - 14:57 ET by Roger the ShrubberHugs Tim.
She turned me into a
April 30, 2008 - 16:15 ET by BEGRUNTShe turned me into a newt...............well, I got better.....LOL
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
HELEN'S HEAD EXPLODES
April 30, 2008 - 16:25 ET by MrShyHELEN THOMAS: Do you think it's worth a million Iraqi deaths, to continue to bomb the Iraqis who did nothing to us?
DANA PERINO: Helen, our soldiers work extremely hard to make sure that any time they're carrying out an operation, they do not --
THOMAS: Why is the Bush administration authorizing the killing and torture of civilians?
PERINO: Helen, they do everything they possibly can to make sure that no innocent civilians are killed.
THOMAS: How can you defend Bush and his policies? He is worse than Hitler and Al Queda combined.
PERINO: Helen.....
THOMAS: When will Bush be tried and impeached for war crimes?
MS. PERINO: Helen, one more nutjob question out of you and.....
THOMAS: An illegal war, the slaughter of innocent civilians worldwide, the destruction of the environment and our constitution, wiretapping of all civilians, racism of blacks, taxing the poor and filling the pockets of the rich. Shouldn't we go right past due-process and line up Bush, Cheney and Condi against the firing wall? Or, another option, have a public hanging outside the Capitol building?
(To the shock of everyone in the press room, Helen Thomas' head suddenly explodes.)
DANA THE LOVELY
HELEN THE DECREPIT WITCH
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Excellent MrS... Your
April 30, 2008 - 16:29 ET by bigtimerExcellent MrS...
Your post reminded me of a caller to the Washington Journal earlier this week, he wanted Pres. Bush and some of his administration eviscerated on the Capitol steps with all entrails too see.
It was despicable....and people have died for these radical, below average nutcases to have their free speech...
Ungrateful ba$tard$ all.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
bigtimer
April 30, 2008 - 19:41 ET by MrShyHey, yeah, I know.... it's unreal.
She sits in that front-row chair of hers, running off questions that are blatantly left wing-driven and solely designed to denigrate any and all things Bush-related. It IS despicable.
She's a complete fraud, and I have no idea how she's held on to this "journalistic" job of hers, and how she keeps that seat. Just amazing and sickening.
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Helen's hero, Bill Clinton
April 30, 2008 - 16:27 ET by Gary HallHelen, just for the record, more civilians (notabaly children) died in Iraq during the Clinton years from sanctions and war than have died during President Bush's administration.
Helen's hero, Bill Clinton:
-- Jimmy Carter – On Kosovo, NYT, May 27, 1999
How about you Helen?
GaryH... Thank
April 30, 2008 - 16:32 ET by bigtimerGaryH...
Thank you.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
BT -
April 30, 2008 - 16:37 ET by Gary HallOh, your very welcome.
I can't get over how Dana Perino can limit her response to one liners and miss handing out a full-court lashing of Helen for spreading such lies and venom in a public forum.
(;~/
Me either GaryH... I
April 30, 2008 - 16:45 ET by bigtimerMe either GaryH...
I can't watch them anymore...I get too angry anymore...but I can imitate her voice along with Susan Estrich's (both about the same nasally whining tone)...if I want to make my guy crack-up laughing that's what I do at times.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill