Do we all get free wooden shoes? Barack Obama didn't say. But he does have an Impossible Dream to cut poverty that would make Don Quixote proud. Put people to work . . . building windmills. His idea came in response to a question at last night's Compassion Forum on CNN from Jim Wallis, a leading member of the religious left whose focus is "social justice." Wallis wanted Obama to commit to a new War on Poverty.
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JIM WALLIS: As you reminded us a week or two ago, when Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was killed 40 years ago, he wasn't just speaking about civil rights. He was fighting for economic justice. Was about to launch a poor people's campaign. Yet, four decades after the anniversary of his death, the poverty rate in America is virtually unchanged and 1 in 6 of our children are poor in the richest nation in the world. So in the faith community, we are wanting a new commitment around a measurable goal, something like cutting poverty in half in ten years. Would you commit -- would you at this historic compassion forum, commit to such a goal tonight and if elected, tell us how you would mobilize the nation, mobilize us to achieve that goal?
Surely, you'd think, the candidate wouldn't fall into that big-government trap. Think again . . .
BARACK OBAMA: Well, first of all, Jim, I appreciate the good work you've been doing on these issues. And I absolutely will make that commitment. Understand -- understand -- understand that when I make that commitment, I do so with great humility because it is a very ambitious goal. And we're going to have to mobilize our society, not just to cut poverty, but to prevent more people from slipping into poverty. You know, this actually goes back to the earlier point you raised where Senator Clinton suggested I was being elitist when I said that people are frustrated and bitter. That is absolutely true. That's not just true in small towns. That's true in urban areas. That's true in my community of the south side of Chicago. Because people feel forgotten. They feel as if nobody is listening in Washington. And that every four years we have politicians who come out and make promises and they're not kept. And so that's why I wanted to put the caveat on there. I make that commitment with humility because we've got a lot of work to do economically in this country to bring about a more just and fair economy. It starts with, I think, recognizing that wages and incomes for average families have gone down during the most recent economic expansion. That's never happened before in the history of America since we started recording these statistics. At least since World War II.
And so we've got to shore up the mortgage market. To make sure that we don't have millions of people who are losing their homes. We're going to have to, I think, change our tax code. For us to provide tax breaks to the wealthiest among us, those who didn't need them and weren't asking for them. Folks that are struggling to fill up their gas tanks just to get to a job. I met a guy here in Pennsylvania when Bob Casey and I were traveling around, who told me his problem is he's looking for a job and it costs him more than he can afford just to go to a job interview.
And so we've got to give them some tax relief, and we've got to invest in our infrastructure to create jobs, particularly those who are going to be getting laid off in the construction industry, as the housing market goes down. And I put forward very specific plans for that. We're going to have to, I think, invest heavily in clean energy. And if we have a cap and trade system, we can generate $150 billion over ten years to invest in solar and wind and biodiesel and train people to build windmills and build solar panels and make buildings more energy efficient. And make alternative fuels. All these things -- all these things will strengthen the economy generally.
And I left out one last point. Health care. People are falling into bankruptcy. They are going without medical care. It is a moral imperative that we make sure that we have a plan in place that provides health care to every single American and that has high quality and provides prevention. If we do those things and that applies not just to poor people but working and middle class families all over the country, then we also have to focus on those who even when the economy is good and the middle class are doing well are still impoverished, and that's a special challenge. And that involves, I think, going at the problem at its roots very early. Investing in early-childhood education, working with at-risk parents, drastically improving our education system, K through 12 by paying our teachers more and demanding more from them. And making sure that we have after-school programs and summerschool programs.
Let's review. Obama appreciates and identifies with the work being done by Jim Wallis, an advocate of "social justice," lefty code for aggressively redistributionist economics. Note how Wallis implores Obama, as president, to "mobilize us." This is anything but the philosophy of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This is the expressed desire to have a powerful leader "mobilize" us for our own good. Wallis is looking for a man on a socialist white horse.
And be very afraid when a lefty like Obama talks about his plan to "mobilize society" and says "we've got a lot of work to do economically in this country to bring about a more just and fair economy." That's classic far-left language. The "we" he has in mind is of course big government, using its power to control the economy and redistribute income.
Then there's the doubly-destructive whammy on jobs he proposes. First, he calls for government imposition of a "cap and trade" system. It's not just emissions that would be capped: so would economic activity. It's a formula for job destruction. Next, he would take the $150 billion raked in through cap and trade, and direct its investment in industries of his choosing: from whence those legions of windmill and solar panel makers.
He thus establishes a command and control model in which those infamous Washington bureaucrats, rather than free markets, determine the favored industries to which capital will be directed. This is yet another formula for massive job destruction.
In sum, Obama embraces the social justice segment of the religious left, and commits to a new War on Poverty whose nostrums would be certain to destroy employment for the very people he claims to want to help.
Will the MSM take note of just how far left Obama has planted his economic flag? Willl they speak of him literally tilting at windmills in pursuit of his Impossible Dream? Don't count on it.
Note also Obama's reference to tax breaks for wealthy people "who didn't need them." Hmm, so Obama wants to take from people according to their abilities, and give to others according to their needs. Now where have I heard that before?
Windmill workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your socialism. Well, and perhaps that pair of "free" wooden shoes.
Aside: For some odd reason, CNN entitled its article on the forum "Clinton, Obama put politics aside to discuss faith." Put politics aside? Surely CNN jests.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
















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April 14, 2008 - 07:07 ET by motherbeltJust how can you "cut poverty in half"???? Some people will always be "poor" in relation to others. Is he talking about a "War on Poverty"? Didn't Lyndon Johnson declare that 40 years ago?
First, incomes are divided in "quintiles"...five sections from low to high. No matter how you slice them up, 20% of people are going to be in the lowest quintile. OK, scratch that, let's talk about a specific income level below which we consider people "poor." Usually the "family of 4" income does not take into account the assistance the familiy receives. So even if the family, with an income of say $15,000 a year, receives aid which boosts their income level to $35,000 (a number I have seen in several places over the years), that family is still counted as "poor."
And then let's talk about the fact that the poor in this country are better off than the middle class in some other countries. Here are some stats cited by Walter Williams:
In 1971, only about 32 percent of all Americans enjoyed air conditioning in their homes. By 2001, 76 percent of poor people had air conditioning. In 1971, only 43 percent of Americans owned a color television; in 2001, 97 percent of poor people owned at least one. In 1971, 1 percent of American homes had a microwave oven; in 2001, 73 percent of poor people had one. Forty-six percent of poor households own their homes. Only about 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. The average poor American has more living space than the average non-poor individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens and other European cities.
Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars. Seventy-eight percent of the poor have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception; and one-third have an automatic dishwasher.
Wallis is angry that fully
April 14, 2008 - 07:12 ET by Mark FinkelsteinWallis is angry that fully 20% of people remain in the bottom quintile ;-) That's why the lefti activists will never go out of work: someone will always have less than someone else.
Here's a quick way to "cut
April 14, 2008 - 07:25 ET by motherbeltHere's a quick way to "cut poverty in half"...include the value of assistance received when assessing income level. LINK
Scroll down to page 66 for a table showing the hourly wage value of different welfare packages by state.
But all that is
April 14, 2008 - 11:07 ET by dscottBut all that is presupposing that the availability of jobs is insufficient and the level of wages is not fairly valued to require government assistance in the first place. If they aren't, there is a reason for it, that's called a failed public policy on border control and illegal immigration. http://conservablogs.com/publiusforum/2008/03/01/taxation-without-representation/ We spend over $500 billion annually for all these poverty programs and none of them address the root problem which in effect enables and condons the continuation of poor choices by all. If Obama actually cared about the poor and especially Black people he would drop the xenophobe characterization of enforcing the labor laws of this country. It is his Party's (and to an extent open borders GOPers like Bush & McCain) failed policy of condoning illegal immigration that keeps down wages and limits the number of entry level jobs available to the poor. Now he wants to enact another government program to mitigate his own failed policies?
You can't have your cake and eat it too, on one hand Obama advocates displacing native born poor workers with illegals causing them to draw upon social programs including health care and on the other he wants all the contributing members of society to pay for his largess and bad policy decisions. Enough of this false charity! If you care about the poor and you want fiscal responsibility, then enforce the Laws to send the illegals home. There's $500 billion a year of Social Security money that would not be spent right there which none of the Dems are willing to address SS in any event. To them SS Trust fund is a piggy bank to be continually raided, that's why they demand tax increases to carry on business as usual.
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
Disparity is their biggest
April 14, 2008 - 10:57 ET by mattmDisparity is their biggest bugaboo - except the disparity they enjoy over the average Joe.
Every Lib who believes in wealth distribution should give everything they have over the average income and standard of living to charity - otherwise they can shut up.
Amen, matt! I'm so sick of
April 14, 2008 - 11:39 ET by motherbeltAmen, matt! I'm so sick of these libs like the Clintons, and including people like Warren Buffet, who claim that their taxes are too low. But they're not going pony up anything extra, unless everyone else pays more too!
Socialism
April 14, 2008 - 07:23 ET by jiminjerseyHe thinks he can remove poverty be installing socialism and redistributing wealth.
Maybe Obamma Hussein can
April 14, 2008 - 07:32 ET by JerryMaybe Obamma Hussein can lower the bottom quintile to 10% :-) Granted, he would need to use "fuzzy" math, but as long as he feels good about his answer, that's all that really counts.
I bet he's got a big "secret" plan (like JFKerry), that he can only disclose once elected.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
But in the Marxist Utopia...
April 14, 2008 - 13:39 ET by geoff.galeIn the Marxist utopia that is the vision of SnObama, it'll be just like Lake Wobegon. We'll all be excellent. It'll be a classless society of empowered dudes and ladies, just groovin' together for the benefit of everyone. Like, we'll all be holdin' hands, an' trippin' an' singin' Cumbayah, an' makin' sure that we all have everythin' we need, man. 'Cuz, like, that's the way it s'posed to be, man. It won't be the rich man that gets the breaks, man, it'll be all of us getting them brakes, er breaks.
Seriously, the war on poverty is one of those big government, make-work initiatives that sounds good to stoned hippies and six-graders, but makes anyone who has a job and pays taxes reflexively reach for their wallet or pocketbook. Kinda like the war on drugs that's run for a generation - that one's been a make-work program for the police and corrections sectors that we couldn't weed out of the budget even with a Congressional majority.
Sheesh.
"All that is necessary for the trimuph of evil is that good men do nothing."
- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
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Barack knows this is crap.
April 14, 2008 - 07:28 ET by FranksamBarack knows this is crap. That's why he makes a claim to make the approach with "humility" and lays the reponsibility off on those who must be "mobilised". If he's not able to help, it'll still be my fault.
And let's remember the wooden shoes were often put on to walk around in the you-know-what.
stick your illegal "war" lefty
April 14, 2008 - 07:31 ET by Jack BauerI wonder if this guy Wallis could possibly be as stupid as he sounds. How can you have a conversation with someone that thick, whose brain is so damaged it ceased functioning years ago.
As to the "left's" monumental failure in their illegal, immoral and dumb "war" on poverty... let me say:
NOT IN MY NAME bozos.
I don't support your "mission" to destroy capitalism and the last best hope for the real poor of the world.
And they don't live in America.
Thunder stole - charges coming
April 14, 2008 - 07:38 ET by JWFMotherbelt,
You stole my thunder. It is a bell curve. Someone will always be at the bottom. If you give $10,000 to the people making $20,000. Now the people making $25,000 will be at the bottom, and not happy about it.
I have been to countries where "dirt poor" still means something. Portions of your house have a dirt floor, no fridge, no running water, no car, squatting on the land your home is on.
Don't forget about that stubborn "1 on 6" figure. It is not the same "1". Middle class people are moving up to rich. Poor people are moving up to middle class. There are new poor people arriving here all the time. Someone has to start at the bottom.
Also, a windmill turns wind energy into mechanical energy to oh, GRIND GRAIN or PUMP WATER! I did not realize we have a shortage of those.
I have not found a place to fit this in, so I will throw it in here. Obama was talking to Gen. Petraeus about setting the "end game" or "end point" something like that. Mr. "I wanna be Prez" again has failed to recognise that is something the President would determine, remember that whole "buck stops here" sign on a former Presidents desk?
Cutting poverty in half is easy, but "they" wont like it...
April 14, 2008 - 07:54 ET by c5thenRaise the amount of income that defines the "poverty level". I don't think that is what these folks have in mind, but it works. Keep in mind that the "poverty" level in the US is a rather arbitrary number that gets "adjusted" occassionally as it suites the politicians.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Exactly, c5! I was
April 14, 2008 - 09:12 ET by motherbeltc5, I think you meant "lower" the amount of income that defines poverty level. I was thinking about that too...they redefined "obesity" offficially making 30,000,000 Americans obese without gaining a pound...why not poverty?
Just kidding, but for reference purposes, "poverty" in the US is currently defined as "under $19,350 for a family of 4." If that number were lowered to $15,000, the number of "poor" would decrease.
"Poverty" would nearly disappear if they included the dollar value of all the assistance that the "poor" receive: the food stamps, AFDC payments, the value of the Medicaid benefit, etc. in their calculations. The link I cited in my comment above has a rundown.A family of 4 with an income of $19,000 is still considered "poor" even after an infusion of $30,000 worth of "benefits."
Windmill workers
April 14, 2008 - 07:54 ET by P.J. GladnickThe ranks of the windmill workers will come from the unemployed Belgian endive workers of Michael Dukakis fame.
Hunh??
April 14, 2008 - 07:57 ET by Killgrave"And if we have a cap and trade system, we can generate $150 billion over ten years to invest in solar and wind and biodiesel and train people to build windmills"
I love how he makes it sound like this magic money comes from nowhere, like he's Lucky Charms the leprachaun.
The thing is, there is no "generation" at all. He's basically saying that he intends on stealing wealth from a productive sector, and giving it (after taking his cut) to an unproductive sector. So he is actually "generating" wealth by destroying wealth.
Seriously, are these people stupid or insane?
we can generate $150
April 14, 2008 - 08:59 ET by motherbeltwe can generate $150 billion over ten years to invest in solar and wind and biodiesel and train people to build windmills"
The WPA of the 21st Century.
And don't forget the Earned Income Tax Credit...
April 14, 2008 - 08:02 ET by Parker1227...a reverse income tax that pays out to the working poor the difference between their actual income and the calculated poverty level (by size of family).
Thus, no family in the U.S. with a working head of household should be living in poverty.
But Parker, "poverty" is
April 14, 2008 - 09:01 ET by motherbeltBut Parker, "poverty" is defined by where they start out, not where they end up after all the benefits. So you could give a family enough aid to raise their virtual income level to $65,000 a year, and they would still be considered "poor."
Uhmm, they tried that in NJ
April 14, 2008 - 12:38 ET by dscottUhmm, they tried that in NJ as a pilot program and it failed with the inevitable consequence that people stopped working. Why work when someone will give you money? The NIT (Negative Income Tax) is a disinsentive to become a contributing member of society. The EIC is the NIT in disguise. Human nature is such that it requires disparity in order to motivate a person to do anything.
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
Obama's Soviet economic policy.
April 14, 2008 - 09:37 ET by Missouri ConservativeObama's economic proposals sound eerily familiar to Stalin's 5-year plans in the old Soviet Union.
"women and minorities hardest hit"
Obama
April 14, 2008 - 10:25 ET by iveseenitallObami the Commie!
NEVER,NEVER trust a"liberal"
Obama may be on to something
April 14, 2008 - 10:16 ET by ckc1227Obama may be on to something when it comes to new jobs being created by green technology. Next he'll be telling us he has a plan for creating jobs that includes breaking all the windows in the country. Just think how many jobs would be created just to repair all the broken windows. And maybe after we teach people to build windmills for power production, we can teach them how to build horse-drawn plows that farmers can use to plow farmland. You know, because nothing says progress like turning back the clock.
that includes breaking all the windows in the country
April 14, 2008 - 12:19 ET by wizardjrGreat idea! I work for a company that makes 1 out of five pieces of window glass for residences. Can I help you? It'll be a new Kristallnacht! Oh boy, can't wait.
Windmills
April 14, 2008 - 11:03 ET by misterbee241"build windmills and build solar panels"
This is a GREAT idea. And we can all have a little brown shack out back too. Many is the wonderful winter nights I've spent in one of these with the snow whipping in through the cracks. and in the summer time - wow - wasps and spiders. Think of all the water we could save, and all the money on sewage treatment plants.
I will bet money the man-of-the-people Obama never saw one of these much less used one.
There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745
It never ceases to amaze
April 14, 2008 - 12:12 ET by SnappyIt never ceases to amaze me at how we have allowed ourselves to create a society that will punish the successfull for succeeding and reward the poor for being needy.
Washington isnt listening? I have never ASKED washington for help when I needed a job. Of course I have always worked, I guess I have just been blessed with the uncanny ability to realize that I need money for food and clothing. If only I had been told all I had to do is ask washington for these things... I have been going about it wrong all these years by working.
Oh, for Pete's sake.
April 14, 2008 - 12:19 ET by Chris NormanOh, for Pete's sake. Building windmills? This is what this media annointed messiah and oracle came up with? Genius, sheer genius... Just don't put them where Teddy Kennedy can see them, huh?
By the way, what in the heck is a "compassion forum" exactly? Does one have to be liberal to attend? I maintain that compassion, if it has to be discussed, planned, and be made mandatory, loses it's meaning...
chris -- he's The Man From
April 14, 2008 - 12:34 ET by Jack Bauerchris -- he's The Man From La Mansion.
Nice land deal if you can get it. I tilt my hat!
Still dreaming ... "Dream
April 14, 2008 - 14:09 ET by Dan The Man 2Still dreaming ... "Dream the impossible dream"
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
OBIE DON JUAN QUIXIOTE BAMA
April 14, 2008 - 14:13 ET by PawpawNOBIE DON JUAN QUIXIOTE BAMA!! He Dreams the Impossible Dream, He's FIGHTING the UNBEATABLE HOE; HE LAUGHS WHEN YOU SAY HE'S UNAMERICAN, HE GOES WHERE HIS GRANDMOTHER WOULDN'T GO!
pawpaw -- nicely cerv'd
April 14, 2008 - 19:51 ET by Jack Bauerpawpaw -- nicely cerv'd amigo. What was the name of Q's donkey? I ferget senor.
Well, Jim, first thing I am
April 14, 2008 - 12:54 ET by bassndudeWell, Jim, first thing I am going to do is put you to work doing a real job. I mean real work, Jim. Not what you do that passes for, quote, work, end quote. You and many like you...you know...journalists...are going to be digging the footings and foundations for my windmill farms. Dont worry tho, I will keep you busy for years to come...By the way, Jim. Lose the note pad and pen. You are not going to need them in my future.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Um, Mark?
April 14, 2008 - 13:05 ET by BlondeWhat the heck is a "compassion forum"?
Loved that screencap, BTW.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Obama Sings
April 14, 2008 - 14:21 ET by PawpawN"I DREAM THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM, I FIGHT THE UNBEATABLE HOE; I LAUGH WHEN YOU SAY I'M UNAMERICAN, I GO WHERE MY GRANDMOTHER WOULDN'T GO!"
Uh-bama keeps hanging
April 14, 2008 - 14:41 ET by ConservativeRexUh-bama keeps hanging these curve balls to McCain and he just watches them go by, instead of knocking them out of the park!
Here we go again..another war on poverty. >$6 trillion on the last war on poverty! And we still have as many poor folks as when we started. LBJ, in 1966 started this worthless BS. I think that if he had given the money directly to the poor folks in 1966 and had them invest it, we'd have a whole new generation of millionaires!
Instead, they've nurtured two generations to be dependant on the government for their very existence. Hell, the demos wanted it that way. The democrats have always wanted a permanent underclass to keep them in office. Since the start of the democrat party it has been that way. When have the democrats ever started a project that actually helped minorities? I submit never! The war on poverty, welfare, aid to dependant children, all of these were designed to keep folks under the care of the government! And the happy idiots go right along with it, like sheep to slaughter.
Never once to these idiots realize that to first "give" someone something, the government has to take it from someone. So let's put an end to this war on poverty crap before it starts.