Shuster: Penn's Advice 'Disaster,' Firing Too Little Too Late

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Update 8:20 AM: Why Hillary's Hospital Story Matters. See at foot.

Joe Scarborough and David Shuster came not to praise Penn but to bury him . . .

Chatting on today's Morning Joe, the host and the MSNBC political correspondent agreed that the mistake in firing the chief Clinton campaign strategist was that it didn't come nearly soon enough.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: For the Clintons, not a good weekend. Mark Penn, bounced out, my question is why now? They should have done it a long time ago. Good news, bad news?

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DAVID SHUSTER: Well I think it's too little, too late. I mean I think you're absolutely right. The only reason he was hanging in this long was because he had the support of Hillary Clinton [Ed.: pretty big reason]. I mean, a lot of people in the Clinton campaign were infuriated. You remember, Joe and Mika, a month ago, after a couple primary losses, when it was Mark Penn who said "oh, I wasn't in charge of Hillary's campaign," which just infuriated [Ed.: that's two "infuriateds" -- some angry people over there] who were working with the campaign, who knew his crucial role.
I mean it was Mark Penn who made the case and sold it that Hillary Clinton should run as the de facto incumbent, and that proved to be a disaster, because of course that left the territory wide open to Barack Obama to claim the mantle of change in a change election. And of course when you think about all the various slogans, and campaign themes, and constantly changing message, I mean that was Mark Penn's doing, and I think you're absolutely right: this is something that might have helped Hillary Clinton a month ago. I don't think it makes any difference today.

SCARBOROUGH: Too little too late.

I haven't heard anyone in the punditocracy utter a peep in defense of Penn. The consultant's stock is at an absolute bottom, somewhere below Bear Stearns and Bob Shrum's. This could be a buying opportunity for some third-tier candidate somewhere, willing to take a flyer . . .

Oh, and note that, while demoted, Penn will continue to provide polling and other services to the campaign. Guess Hillary would rather have Penn inside the tent micturating out, than outside . . . .

Update 8:20 AM: Why Hillary's Hospital Story Matters

My two cents on the phony Hillary hospital story. It's not just that she's been caught telling another whopper. It's her excuse that really hurts her. She claims that she was passing along a story that had been told her by a deputy sheriff.

Oh, so Hillary made a mistake by relying on . . . false intelligence? Hmm, doesn't that undercut one of the main themes of her campaign? Isn't this The Woman Ready From Day One, who wouldn't make the same mistakes W allegedly did and that hoodwinked her into voting for the Iraq war?

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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false intelligence?

Excellent point! She's almost a master at the "It's-not-my-fault Two-Step". I say almost because had it not been for Obama, the MSM would never call her on her lies.

  

Enough Is Enough!

This campaign is to the point where all of the networks, specifically because they're the place for politics, MSNBC, are at the point where it's getting ridiculous.  The majority of the voting population doesn't even watch this crap.  The "talking heads" and pontificators are out of control.  How about getting a "real job".  MSBNC is by far the guiltiest of the guilty.  They bring on the same people, putting on the same spin, many times throughout the day. 

I for one, can't wait for the real campaign.  It will be the most overanalyzed, overhyped, diatribe in broadcast history.  

Yeah.. but did Penn advise

Yeah.. but did Penn advise her to whine yesterday whilst talking about her making"over" $250,000 for the first time.

I never asked for tax cuts

But you took thern though didn't ya Hill? Standing there with ya smug "moral" "superiority" because someone on £250 k might quite like not being slammed with tax.

Show us the checks you made when you volutarrily paid MORE tax than you need on the $109 million? You can do that you know.

How about a special tax on WINDFALL PROFITS MADE FROM BOOK SALES?

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

She's everything false

Clinton gets false intelligence, claimed false experience, makes up false stories, and displays false emotions. Is there anything true about her?

Tricked Again!

On the hospital story, it is yet another example of "that man tricked me." This seems to happen a lot...and I mean a whole lot...to Senator Clinton. These men are constantly tricking her, feeding her false information, pulling the wool over her eyes, withholding critical data, hiding things from her: it is always someone else's fault. It truly is amazing that she's even able to negotiate life with all the men who are undermining her brilliance this way.

Again!

Hillary is amazing. She claims that she and her campaign are too hard pressed by the rigors of the campaign to fact check her stories. She is not repeating every story she hears -- she is repeating the same phony story at every stop. How hard is that to check out? I think this woman was graduated from elite universities based on Affirmative Action quotas or something.

Hillary is apparently a

Hillary is apparently a pathological liar. None the less, I think the crew at MSNBC are also all pathological liars. I watched a little of Morning Joe this a.m., and it just seems that Joe Scarborough is not the conservative he says he is. And MSNBC is one big campaign ad for Barack Obama. I personally think it's pathetic.