Hardball had some fun this evening at Hillary's expense over the mystery of The Sniper Who Didn't Fire. Credit Politico's Roger Simon with the most devastating remark.
Hillary's heroic claim has been that "we used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady." Simon said what in retrospect might be obvious but something I hadn't previously heard anyone else observe.
ROGER SIMON: She says I was there because it was too dangerous for the President. It was too dangerous--so he sent his wife and only child? It makes no sense.
View video here.
Of course, we are talking about Bill Clinton here, but even so, score Simon with a good point made. Matthews ran with the ball.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: She said whenever the target, the place, was too small or dangerous they sent me . . . oh by the way—and Chelsea? I think you make a good point. If it was that dangerous and harrowing. But why would she describe in a Hemingway fashion: ducking, under sniper fire, the whole imagery. She conveyed it very well—except it didn’t happen.
Margaret Carlson got in her some licks of her own.
MARGARET CARLSON: I mean so vividly, and you know, Hillary doesn’t have that many authentic moments. When she’s describing herself in Bosnia, it, it sounded right, because “ducking,” “sniper” --
MATTHEW: Verisimilitude.
CARLSON: Verisimilitude. I rarely hear that word, Chris, because it’s not that authentic, that word.
MATTHEWS: I think it was downright Clintonesque [?]. What do you make, Perry [Bacon, of WaPo], can you throw another term at us here? How would you have such a splendid memory of something that didn’t happen? I mean we’ve all forgotten names, we’ve often forgotten other details, like where’s the damn keys in the morning when we’re going to work. But remembering a battle scene, in your own life.
PERRY BACON: I honestly have no idea. I actually attended that speech and I talked to one of her supporters afterward who clearly was sort of flailing almost in trying to describe, you know, a scene where, he was there too, he seemed to not recall the sniper fire either. He sort of, when I asked him he agreed it was unusual he couldn’t recall the, being shot at.
Come on, now. This was unfair. Surely at various times we’ve all been shot at–or not—and have found it hard to keep all the details straight.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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Dang!
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:07 ET by candanceWhy doesn't Matthews rename his show "We Hate Hillary"?
Now y'all know you're SWIFT BOATING Hillary...
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:15 ET by PawpawNThe date is ETCHED IN HER MIND-doesn't that sound familiar! Now everyone is SWIFT BOATING, or should we say SNIPER FIRING her. I had fun during '04 election with the Kerry statement since I actually was in Vietnam in late '68 on the Mekong River, near the Cambodian border. A bunch were discussing Kerry's statement and I told them I knew it couldn't be true, but, oh that's right, since I could tell the truth that I really left country 10/15/1968, I really wasn't there Christmas 1968, just like Kerry wasn't! Wow, it's been over 40 years since Tet '68 when we kicked butt but the MSM tried to play it other way and they finally succeeded!
Etched? I believe the term
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:19 ET by Mark FinkelsteinEtched? I believe the term is "seared" ;-)
Mark, you are correct-seared in his mind! With Heinz Ketchup!
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:23 ET by PawpawNSEARED is so correct, and bet he used Heinz Ketchup on it. Hey, what's happened to Harry Reid and the other DIM talking heads, they've been put on MUTE!
Bill was trying to save us all
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:16 ET by general companyShe says I was there because it was too dangerous for the President.
I have new respect for Bill, he must had felt Hillary was a bigger threat then Osama
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
Had to get Hill out of WH as visitors coming in Blue Dresses
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:31 ET by PawpawNBJC had to clear the WH slate to have visitors. Betty was let off early and the sign in sheet wasn't out. But is it true that he told ML to stop at Mickey D's on the way!
Interestingly,
Thu, 03/27/2008 - 10:35 ET by TheDeuceThe logs of her schedule came out recently and they say Hill was in the White House on the very day Bill made his deposit with Monica.
Man, they sure raise 'em right in the Arkansas govenor's trailer, don't they?
I don't know how much of a threat she was...
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 07:26 ET by HAL9000...but I'm sure her butt made a bigger target!
It doesn't even matter why
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:28 ET by motherbeltIt doesn't even matter why she was there; if there were actually sniper fire, are we to believe the Secret Service said "OK, Mrs. Clinton, get off the plane now, and run with your head down to that car over there!"? (oh, and don't forget to zig-zag, like they do in the movies!!)
MB: brilliant point. If
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:33 ET by Mark FinkelsteinMB: brilliant point. If there'd really been sniper fire, there's no way in hell the Secret Service would have let that plane touch down. By the way, I believe you're referring to the famous scene in The In-Laws with Alan Arkin and Peter Falk where to avoid fire they encourage themselves to run "serpentine, serpentine!"
OMG Mark, I had forgotten
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 06:09 ET by motherbeltOMG Mark, I had forgotten that. That movie is hilarious!
ROFL!!
zig-zag, like they do in
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:37 ET by general companyzig-zag, like they do in the movies
Hmm, you just never know. Maybe they let her go first also ; ]
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
From the In-Laws (the original, the good one)
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:53 ET by KC MulvilleSerpentine! Serpentine! Serpentine!
Dear Lord, you have me in tears, laughing. I love that movie, and the idea of Hillary running serpertine! serpertine! serpertine! through the Bosnian landing strip is simply too hysterical to imagine.
"If it's too tough for the president ... " Yeah, I'm sure that was the phrase around the White House. They probably had a different beginning to the "send Hillary" line, but they were afraid to say it to her face.
She's have to run,
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:57 ET by FastEdremember - she won't stand by her man, like the song, sitting home baking cookies.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
At least DNA evidence wasn't
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:32 ET by cmujellyAt least DNA evidence wasn't required to get her to admit the truth.
Convenient
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:35 ET by dboLets face it. If it really was dangerous he would not have sent Hillary... he would have sent Monica Lewinsky.
Whaaaaa...?
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:36 ET by heldmywhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ap5lq52KkZRk
No Hillary. You didn't "misspeak". You lied. Flat out lied and got caught flat-footed.
You are a lightweight, a cheat, and a fraud. Your experience amounts to squat, and you are a liar.
Bad candidate! Bad!
No presidency, and no cookie!
Assuming only 2 million words counts as 'millions'
Thu, 03/27/2008 - 12:03 ET by TheDeuce...and seeing that there are only 86,400 seconds in a day, she is conservatively speaking 23 words a second, give or take.
Why do these idiots keep digging when they're told about the hole developing around them?
Strike that...in her case, I offer to wheelbarrow dirt away so she can plumb new depths at greater speed.
This DNC bash is starting to really get good. The only bad thing is the MSM will use the demos' attacks on each other as a claim of media objectivity...."see, we aired dem dirty laundry, too."
I disagree with Simon
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 21:53 ET by hungarianfalconIt may not make perfect sense to send your only daughter into harms way, but I can easily understand sending Hillary, especially from Bill's standpoint. But that's just me. dws.
HF
hillary is now lying to cover up the first lie
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 22:21 ET by lunaticcringeradioapparently she is now claiming she made a mistake when she told that lie, she said she had mistaken the incident, ok if so, which incident was she ever in where she was covered with a flak jacket and ran for safety under sniper fire that she can mistake that for? also what does that say about the efforts and abilities of our secrect service that she has essentially thrown them under the bus. additionally if the world opinion of america was so great under her and billys rule as opposed to now when the clintons were in charge, why would anyone want to shoot them because they were so beloved.
the biggest lie she's pushing now is that she's human and she mistook the account. i contest the big lie is she claims she's human.
lunaticcringeradio
As Matthews said: How
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 06:16 ET by motherbeltAs Matthews said:
How would you have such a splendid memory of something that didn’t happen?
Easy. You lie. She is like a kid making up stories to cover up why he skipped school. Every time he's caught in a lie, he has to make up another one to cover up the other. And on it goes....
The Pantsuit cornered
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 22:23 ET by fitzfongThe Pantsuit cornered herself on this one...she's either a liar or she and Bubba are reckless and rotten parents. Or both. Her pathetic attempt to evade this choice only proves that she knows what she's stepped in...she can only hope to buy time in hopes that another scandal will break with one of her opponents before she has to actually face the music.
I'll admit it...
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 22:48 ET by Tom1969caNot once in my life have I ever been shot at. In fact, I remember the details of not being shot at quite vividly!
I was walking down the street, minding my own business, when suddenly ... nothing happened. You don't forget something like that. It changes you forever.
~~~
I admire FDR for not insisting on getting the approval of France and Germany before going to war.
--Anne Coulter
LOL Tom
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 22:58 ET by candanceIt's a good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read your post! You need to warn us next time!
"I was walking down the
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 06:00 ET by Mark Finkelstein"I was walking down the street, minding my own business, when suddenly ... nothing happened. You don't forget something like that. It changes you forever."
LOL!
Bosnia
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 22:50 ET by HG AbrahamsonSecret Service: Mr. President. We think Mrs. Clinton's visit could be very dangerous, our operatives feel it very likely that snipers will be targeting her as she deplanes in Bosnia.
Bubba: Are you absolutely sure?
Secret Service: Yes, Sir.
Bubba: Let me talk to Hillary. Thanks.
Bubba (on Phone): Hi Honey, Do you still have that blaze orange jumpsuit with the real big American flag embroidered across the back?
Difference of opinion is what makes a horse race.
Actually, I'm not entirely
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 06:37 ET by ThisnThatActually, I'm not entirely sure the sniper fire didn't originate from inside the plane after Hillary de-planed?
The best comment came from Jay Leno last night: "Who'd ever thought that Hillary had more war experience than John McCain?"
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LOL. That reminds me of the
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 07:44 ET by Hero SquadLOL. That reminds me of the old Looney Tunes, where the hunter takes his mother-in-law out deer hunting, and gives her a deerskin jacket to wear with antlers on the hood.
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Liar, liar...pantsuit on fire.
Tue, 03/25/2008 - 23:42 ET by JerLiar, liar...pantsuit on fire. I know stupid...I have seen stupid. And, believe me, this was stupid.
Jer
Hilary misspoked, Sinbad
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 05:29 ET by Ruths husband BenHilary misspoked, Sinbad joked
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they
made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group.” -Obama (talking about Imus)
"Oh, rrrreaaaalllllyyyyy!!!!!!! -RhB
Some recent quotes
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 06:35 ET by ThisnThatSome of these quotes are as of early this morning:
"It's much ado about nothing" [meaning Hillary's "misquote"]
"McCain mispeaks all the time, about Iraq, Iran -- and these are much more important topics"
"I can't believe we're focusing so much on what may or may not have happened 12 years ago"
"This is something I think happens to anybody"
So, like Global Warming, I guess this incident is "settled".
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Some of these quotes are as
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 09:38 ET by NCConservativeSome of these quotes are as of early this morning:
"I can't believe we're focusing so much on what may or may not have happened 12 years ago"
So which one is it? Either it did or it didn't happen. Plain and simple. There's no "may or may not have" about it. We're focusing on it because YOU brought it up and got caught in a lie, Mrs. Clinton. I'm sure this is not unfamiliar territory.
"This is something I think happens to anybody"
What happens to anybody? Coming under sniper fire or lying about it? Because I don't have experience with either. Oh...you mean "misspeaking!" Yes, I have done that, but I don't make up scenarios in my mind and present them as real.
I am just thrilled that this whole event was captured on film. Pretty soon we'll be hearing that it's not her in the video or that wasn't actually Bosnia...
Misspoke=LIED
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 07:28 ET by DanSThere is a difference between a lie and a misstatement. It would be a traumatic experience to run from sniper fire. You would remember whether or not your life was in danger. This is just a pure and simple lie. It also shows that she is not smart enough to be President, since she lies about things that are easy to verify.
I believe she just
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 07:50 ET by Hero SquadI believe she just misremembered the incident.
Or was that Roger Clemens?
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"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Actually, I'm starting to
Wed, 03/26/2008 - 12:19 ET by fitzfongActually, I'm starting to wonder if Bubba and the Pantsuit would have sunk to the level of sending their daughter to Bosnia as a propagandist "human shield". Seems these days they're more than happy to put her out on the campaign trail in the "defenseless victim"/unchallengeable cheerleader/human shield mode (a la the Jersey Girls, Michael J. Fox, and the sympathetic teachers/police/firefighters who represent the Goonions when the Democrats want to raise taxes). Did anyone else see her totally rehearsed, transparently self-righteous, finger-wagging response to the obviously planted Clinton/Lewinsky question at that town hall meeting? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, my friends.