Hume to Conservatives: 'Get Off McCain's Back '

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By Mark Finkelstein | March 2, 2008 - 11:29 ET

Brit Hume has some blunt advice for conservatives: lay off McCain if you don't want a Dem president.

At the very end of today's Fox News Sunday panel segment, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol was first to make an argument along similar lines.
BILL KRISTOL: I'm more conservative than John McCain but I think it would be a mistake for him to just make himself into an orthodox conservative in this election. The reason he is a stronger candidate than a lot of other Republicans would be is that he is a little bit heterodox. He's got his own views, he shouldn't back off on that, I think, actually.
Hume then framed the issue in dramatic terms:
BRIT HUME: And if the conservatives don't want a President Obama or a President Clinton, they ought to get off McCain's back and let him campaign as whatever he wants to, and campaign from the center.
What do NB readers think? Smart realpolitik from Kristol and Hume, or an unwarranted call to concede on important principles?

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Gee, a network talking about McCain ?

The KIDS are not Listening to Brit Hume and Fox.......FOX needs to go VIDEO, Turn to the Propaghanda Sequencing of videos, and stop talking.....because the Alphabets are going for the lemmings in a big Pictorial way........explanation below...

So I’m watching ABC World News at 6 o’clock Saturday evening, and I get the obligatory Democratic View of the Election, I get assaulted with this series of Video propaganda shots listed below, in sequence, back to back… 

Obama on the campaign trail, acknowledging loud cheers

Hillary on campaign trail, speaking

Obama on another podium, cheering crowd, CHANGE signs on dias

Hillary speaking on podium on issues

Obama on podium, speaking (finally)  

Now, I not a KGB mis-information expert, nor have I studied the Nazi propaganda of the 1930’s, but this strikes me as a fast paced presentation of two candidates in Video’s shown back to back, with a certain Bias present in the selection and the Sequence in which it was presented. 

Couple this with NO Video pictures of McCain or any other Republican was shown during the whole ABC World news show.  The ONLY reason I’m even watching Alphabet news, is that I’m on Rabbit ears TV because the Cable guys are working out on the Street, and I don’t have cable. 

Brit Hume has an uphill battle against the Alphabet networks, ……..A leftist, propaganda slanted, Liberal biased, don’t show any candidate but yours set of News shows.  And it was followed by Local ABC news, with an Obama Video, a Hillary Video, and one 3 second Still Picture of McCain with a talk over about McCain leading on the republican side.     No wonder the Young people are all Ga Ga over Obama the Rock star, they are being Guided by a vast Alphabet Video propaganda Machine…. . . subliminal enforcement is too subtle, the Voters are being hit with cheering Obama crowds and adoring Obama fans, Signs of CHANGE everywhere, and very little Obama Talk, Grating fingernails on chalk board talk from Hillary, and  Zero republicans...no Republicans to be found...Nada. 

 

The "young" people do not

The "young" people do not watch NBCABCCBS...but they get liberal perspectives thrown at them all day in many, many other ways...

I'll get off mccain's back

I'll get off mccain's back if he'll pick a decent VP, ie anybody but bLOONburg.

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

Name one

Name a meaningful VP whose advice is seriously considered by the President and who wasn't picked just to help win the election -- you can't use Cheney -- we have gotten spoiled by having him as this country's VP and Bush's CLOSE advisor. Gee, this country was surely well served have LBJ succeed JFK, and that Agnew pick and that Gore pick were surely good ones huh? <sarc off>

Is Your Campaign In A Hole? Keep Digging!

I'm used to being slapped around by Bill Kristol. 

Now, Brit Hume is slapping around Conservatives?

Folks, this might be the tipping point for me.

Adios, McCain.

I lived through Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, and Clinton.

I can live through Barack ("Peace Be Upon His Middle Name") Obama, too.

You're right. VPs don't

You're right. VPs don't matter. Ron Paul for veep. <sarc off>

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

I'll get off McCain's back

I'll get off McCain's back if, and *only* if he pledges the following:

(and I won't be holding my breath)

  1. Increase size of the Amry & Marines (Barack said he wants to do that)
  2. Appoint judges like Scalia, Thomas, and Roberts (we already know McCain hates Alito)
  3. Promise to expell illegal aliens, at the same time you build a fence.
  4. Spend more money for the military to buy more CVAs, F-22s, F-35s, C-17s, KC-45s, B-2s, cruise missles, Viginia class submarines, Aegis Cruisers & Destroyers, etc.

That's the bare minimum for him to get my vote as I hold my nose.

I don't expect to be voting for him.

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Pelosi appreciates your support

That's what a zero Rhino policy gets you, a Pelosi Congress with a Socialist president.

 

That kind of thinking got us into the mess in the fisrt place!

It's RINO, not Rhino.

Rhino is an animal.

RINO is an acronym.

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

The H is for Hating..

Republican Hating Indignant Neutral Observer

Becasue if you don't VOTE, you're Neutral, and you don't count.  If nothing Else, VOTE and neutralize Michelles vote for her Husband.

Find a Reason to vote, try it, you'll like it.

JayTee

I never said I wasn't going to vote. I will. Write-in for Fred Thompson

 

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Increase & Spend more from...

Free to Stink,

...Tax Cuts?!? I love how The New Conservative Movement loves to increase and spend with more deficit spending. A few questions for you and any of the others who want to voice an opinion...

1.Where's he going to get the money?

2.Don't you need the illegals to support your way of life?

3.Eventually, those so called anointed judges are going to bite into your way of life though you don't know it yet and probably never will. More immunity for the corporations or you'll die!

4.We need more power to the corporations that make this country great, screw the average Joe & Jane Homeowner. "You vote for who we tell you to vote for and we'll make sure we get better tax cuts for our buddies but not you."

Just a few stinkin' thoughts for you to hold your nose. Cheers!

Godspeed, John McCain, Godspeed!

Syrius

"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott

 

Why we know Syrius is not Serious

Too easy:

  1. Oh, I'm so sorry I forgot. It's the government's money, it never was "mine". It was always all theirs.
  2. Nope. Not one bit.
  3. You stopped taking your meds?
  4. Vote for who we tell you to? Duh! That's what I'm not doing. I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong area.

 

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

I always find it amazing

I always find it amazing that libs stick so religiously to the dogma of their talking points when the facts are so readily at hand.  The 2003 Bush tax cuts brought in well over a trillion dollars EXTRA ANNUALLY to the Treasury as of the end of 2006. 

Please don't view this website as it might cause you to doubt, if the people who fed you line you just parroted are wrong about the Tax Cut, what else are they wrong about? http://www.bea.gov/bea/dn/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=84&FirstYear=2004&LastYear=2006&Freq=Qtr&3Place=Y

The last time I checked, it was your buddies at the ACLU who are so busy telling people how they might publicly express themselves. And that the principal of Majority Rule was co-opted by the demands of the few who do not want to be reminded of that salient point.  The Telcoms acting as Good Samaratans to the Government's request for information on those who communicate with KNOWN terrorists should not be subject to the frivolous lawsuits of those who act as a 5th Column against the interests of the Majority. 

Quite frankly, the Government doesn't go far enough in acting against terrorists, and if I had my way, not only would water boarding be SOP on these creeps, a lot more of them would be either dead or in jail. A whole bunch of NYT staff would be in jail and, Kennedy, Carter, Pelosi, Reid, Obama and Clinton would be in jail charged with violating the Logan Act. No one is authorized to negotiate on behalf of the US without the express permission of the POTUS and State Department and anyone who confirs with foreign governments to undermine US Policy is guilty of Treason or least of subversion. The conflict does not end until one side either crushes the other or one side gives up.  There is no negotiating with terrorists as this only gives them more power to continue.  So Sirius, if you are calling a known terrorist phone number, you need to go to jail now.

 Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008  Long Live the Empire!  Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.

dscott, "The 2003 Bush

dscott,

"The 2003 Bush tax cuts brought in well over a trillion dollars EXTRA ANNUALLY to the Treasury as of the end of 2006."

Extra cash to the economy you say? Hmmm...me thinks we have a better priority for the money...since you like websites-

http://www.nationalp...

Someday, you may appreciate the ACLU just like Sen. Larry Craig.

As for the Telecoms, why would they need immunity from litigation if the POTUS said they were just helping in the GWOT?

I kept hearing "stock market plunge", "investor worries", " RNC not getting the Telecoms money for the campaigns, etc. So, before you go on a rant about National Security and the POTUS's war against the bogeymen, take a look at the money trail. Money trumps your personal security.

As for this rant...

"Quite frankly, the Government doesn't go far enough in acting against
terrorists, and if I had my way, not only would water boarding
(you mean TORTURE?) be SOP
on these creeps, a lot more of them would be either dead or in jail
(I agree wholeheartedly- First, we should focus on Bin Laden and al-Zahwahiri.). A
whole bunch of NYT staff would be in jail and, Kennedy, Carter, Pelosi,
Reid, Obama and Clinton would be in jail charged with violating the
Logan Act
(Please cite any prosecutions or convictions for violation of the Logan Act?). No one is authorized to negotiate on behalf of the US
without the express permission of the POTUS and State Department and
anyone who confirs with foreign governments to undermine US Policy is
guilty of Treason or least of subversion.
(Burn them at the stake!) The conflict does not end
until one side either crushes the other or one side gives up.
(Like Korea & Vietnam?) There is
no negotiating with terrorists as this only gives them more power to
continue.
(I think POTUS created more terrorists with a war in a distant land called IRAQ. "Al Qaeda in Iraq" was created after we peacefully entered the country and got rid of Saddam. It's a perpetual war with no end in the foreseeable future.) So Sirius, if you are calling a known terrorist phone
number, you need to go to jail now."
(I'm not a terrorist, I'm an American who believes in this country. It's time for Hope & Change and to rid ourselves of the fear-mongering of the radical right's authoritarian posturing. I'm not afraid, not one bit.)

Godspeed, John McCain, Godspeed!

Syrius

"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott

 

McCain - Damned By Faint Praise

Bill Kristol, Republican-lite columnist for the New York Times states:

"I am more conservative than John McCain....."

Well, THAT makes me feel better! 

 

Free Stinker to Brit Hume . . .

Free Stinker to Brit Hume . . .

Shut Up Jxck Xss!

If we get a Dem president, we will have the same policies, spending, judges, amnesty, and ethics as with McCain.

 

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Free Stinker, picture Bill

Free Stinker, picture Bill Clinton as SCOTUS nominee...

Can he be one?

Can a suspended lawyer be appointed to SCROTUM I mean SCOTUS?

gopsteve - Everytime I imagine a John McCain presidency.

I do.

Everytime I imagine a John "Reach Across The Aisle" McCain presidency.

The only good reason to reach across the aisle is to "slap some sense into" those Liberal idiots.

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Well if you don't elect him...there will be no reachin

Without a representitive in Office, without a Presidential Veto, there ain't gonna be no Reachin across no Aisles in Congress...it will be a free wheeling Pelosi/Reid/Obama give away of your Tax dollars. 

You can bitch and complain all you want about the 7 out of 10 things you don't like about McCain....but you might end up waiting in a Socialist country for a new Conservative Candidate with 10 out of 10 things that you DO like.

I would prefer to wait for the perfect Candidate while having a Veto over the Pelosi/Reid agenda.  

We can survive four years of another Dem.

Clinton had a Dem House & Senate for two years and he couldn;t do too much damage.

We can survive four years of another Dem.

 

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Free - Clinton was a very conserative Dem - Obama isn't

He did do damage with Ginsberg

McCain "hates"

McCain "hates" Alito.

McCain will just give us another Sandra Day O'Conner . . .

Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!

Free - McCain is a hot head who says stupid things

sometimes. I never heard him say that he hated him, only that he thought he wore is conservativeness on his sleeve. Either way it doesn't matter. When push came to shove - he did what was right. He was instrumental in getting both Alito and Roberts confirmed and voted to confirm both of them.

Obama not only voted against both of them but participated in the filibuster of them.

The worst McCain will do is give us another Sandra Day O'Conner. The Best Obama will do is another Ginsberg. There is a big difference between those two.

dee

good points, i must agree.  McCain still has areas that scare me (amnesty) and SCOTUS appointments is one of them.  I'd rather not another S.D.O'C but if it's to replace Stephen or Ruth that works.

No Poofdas

Bruce - and McCain scares me also - just not as much as Obama

If it's a choice between Hillary and McCain - I could see people not voting or voting for a third candidate but Obama is so far left that people need to vote against him.

realpolitik

The reality is what conservatives want is most likely attainable through McCain and unattainable through Obama.

Conservatives should push for a Conservative VP. Conservatives should push for lower taxes, stronger military, and real reform in government. We should continue to work for real campaign finance reform (aka freedom), less Global warming garbage, and immigration reform that works.

With these ideas in mind, Obama is 100% wrong and McCain is 50% right. The choice, even if not perfect, is clear.

Thanks for telling us how to

To Media: 

Thanks for telling us how to think, again.

Its always the old tired line: it’s the best of three evils!

So, do I want to be hit with a stick, a branch, or a bat. I don’t know, all I know its going to hurt.

The only thing that I worry about is the judges. That’s all.

Other then that it seems like unless the Democrats sweep the house and senate races, the out of power party (us.. thanks to our idiots in congress, with help from the white house) will fight the Democratic President. If it’s a Republican they will go along and help push the Democratic agenda, with the help of the straight talk express.

If excitement is viewed as donations:

Obama=Jan: $36,060,927 // total raised= $138,231,596

Clinton=Jan: $18,884,127 // total raised= $134,536,488

Mc Cain = Jan:$12,614,907 // total raised= $53,717,085

Huckabee= Jan: $3,963,038 (1/3 of Mc Cain with out a chance to win..)

So tell me, I guess that base is not important..

But hey, don’t worry Mc Cain got his wish: he got the money out of politics. Well for him anyway.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

Romney / Jendil  2012

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

 

nice thought

 

WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES of PUSIFICATION

I hope you enjoy your stay

The McCain backlash should diminish over time

The McCain isn't a perfect Conservative backlash should diminish over the next few months....one would hope...

The Republicans are going to need every vote they can get, to put the Socialist Agenda of their opponents in the ash heap of history.  You can sit at home and watch Pelosi and company get a bigger Majority, or you can up and Vote while acknowledging that  McCain isn't a perfect Candidate and raise Cain with the RNC guys day after day, month after month, until they get the Conservative message. . . . from the Voters who would make a Big Difference.  We've seen enough of the BDS from the liberal side, to avoid MDS from the Conservative side....one would hope (I'm starting to sound like Obama) 

You don't "Abandon" a position threatened by the Enemy, you make a "Strategic retreat", and save your ammo for a counter attack.

JT I understand your point,

JT

I understand your point, I think if it was not for Bush,with the fence and spending, maybe I could eat it once more, but it just never stops, we keep voting the RINO’s in because there is no other choice, but every time we just get Democrat lite.

We yell and scream and send bricks to the RNC/ Congress, complain about spending the sad part is they don’t get the message or worse don’t care.

Its $hit sandwich over and over. Look at the fence, its SCREW YOU AMERICA. We the “anointed ones” will decide who comes and goes in this country. 80% of America want the fence, has it happened?

The Republican party send me those BS questions attached to a donation card, (because they care what we think) its all crap. They take the answers pitch them out and look for the check.

Its about spending via earmarks, it’s SCREW YOU AMERICA,  we are going to keep our earmarks and to hell with you.

Tell me how many of us called/ faxed/ e-mailed/ snail mailed, for the issues above? What happed, they just put it off..and will bring it back a little at a time. Watch if you don’t believe me.

To me the economy is sliding, I say, let it land in the Democrats lap, (they with the help of MSM) have never stopped talking it down so let them inherit it.

Mc Cain is non stop apologizing for even breathing, hell I can see he will be some power for the conservatives. If for once, he would dump on them and apologies to us the base, that would be great.

The MSM (his base) is in the process of destroying him and all he does is crap on us.

Sorry I just can’t do it. I will not vote anymore RINO’s. Or give money. I did give a lot of money to Bush, for that, we have some of his people call us “racist” because we want a fence to protect this great country.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

USA . . I understand your position also, I was on that side

Your label says "4freedom" and you have to move forward for freedom, even if you do it on one leg with McCain's broken arms.

I was a disappointed Duncan Hunter supporter, then I was a Disspointed Rudy supporter, and then I was a half enthusiastic Romeny supporter,  and like you, I'm sittin here looking at my Last Choice.  

Duncan Hunter built a fence on the Border in his San Diego district...and IT WORKED....

I quit yelling at my TV set, and started Marching on DC... JOIN IN

 you will feel a lot better.....Live entertainment, and it's free. 

    

I was with the Gathering of

I was with the Gathering of Eagles in Jacksonville NC about a month ago. When those jack asses from that church in Kansas (I think, don’t feel like looking it up) were protesting our troops in Jacksonville. There were 4 of them, I would guess around 400 of us! Some of the greatest people on earth, people that make you proud to be an American.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

Conservatives

Face it. Conservatives have nowhere to go in this election cycle. The "conservative" Republicans blew it by governing like RINOs. Now they've nominated a RINO. Better wake up and get behind one real conservative for 2012. The survival of this nation as we've known it is in doubt for the first time in my long life. We are in more danger than most Americans realize. It's the past forty years of socialism/communism/globalism coming to fruition. George Soros, Louis Farakan et.al have the champaign on ice. BO and Michelle, anti-white puppets are now ready to roll. Hold on to your hats and your wallets.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Right on ives!

Right on ives!

champagne (sp)- sorry

champagne (sp)- sorry

The choice,even if not perfect,is clear.

The one thing that I keep going back to in my mind is this :

Would I leave the troops we have in Iraq/Afghanistan (all of them,in fact) under an Obama/Clinton presidency just because I don't like McCain and said I wouldn't vote at all if he was the nominee ?

We can fight him on immigration, cf reform, taxes, etc, and we may lose. But no way am I going to sit idly by and watch the Dem destroy what our troops have accomplished.

The pity party is over for me, but the fight never is.

 

 

mikenMD sounds like

Sounds like you might Enjoy this

 

Oh, I am SOO there

Thanks for the link !!

I'm close enough to attend, and I'm bringing my camera.

don't forget your flag! I

don't forget your flag!

I did and they had extra ones!!

But I should have taken the one from my house. 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

Brit is right, but McCain is grating,

Juan McCain just irritates the hell out of me on a daily basis.  The fact that he maybe the only Republican that can defeat the socialist onslaught does nothing to endear him to me.  I've been voting since 1970 and never have I seen a more Faustian choice.

Carbon Credits Smoke'em if you got'em!

CT

I've been voting since 1970 and never have I seen a more Faustian choice.

perfect description

No Poofdas

A house divided against itself

Brit Hume and Bill Kristol are essentially correct. Persistent sniping from some conservatives undermines McCain and smoothes the path towards the election of a Socialist president. In policy terms there is very little difference between Clinton and Obama. Both believe in high taxation and an extension of the state's influence.

 House Divided Speech

Springfield, Illinois
June 16, 1858

On June 16, 1858, more than 1,000 Republican delegates met in the Springfield, Illinois, statehouse for the Republican State Convention. At 5 p.m. they chose Abraham Lincoln as their candidate for the U.S. Senate, running against Democrat Stephen A. Douglas. At 8 p.m. Lincoln delivered this address to his Republican colleagues in the Hall of Representatives. The title comes from a sentence in the speech's introduction, "A house divided against itself cannot stand," which paraphrases a statement by Jesus in the New Testament......

See:

http://showcase.neti...

McCain needs to blow Obama's cover of being a moderate

He has to campaign from the center and expose Obama for the fraud that he is. McCain has shown cooperation and willingness to work with the other side. Obama has not and McCain can clearly illustrate that through votes - the gang of 14 and other things.

What McCain needs to learn how to do is not disparage Republicans in the process and label them in Dem terms. He never criticizes Dems only Republicans. The reason I can't stand McCain is because he doesn't just compromise with Dems, he throw Republicans and their principles under the bus.

Dee, I completely agree.

Dee,

I completely agree. MCCain trying to pass himself off now as an orthodox conservative would be artificial and pandering and cancel out any strengths he brings to the race. I wanted a real conservative as GOP nominee, but I'll take McCain over the Dems. It'll be a lot easier to recover from any liberal policies from McCain than the pure poison liberalism from Obama or Clinton. Those policies (or SCOTUS appointments) we may never rescind or recover from.

Brit, you are offering us a

Brit, you are offering us a false dichotomy.  It is not a matter of McCain "making" himself more conservative.  You are or you aren't conservative, that's the issue.  McCain being a how shall we say, a sock puppet, simply wants to be POTUS, took advantage of the MSM deselecting candidates and was the last person standing.  A choice is not a choice when someone else makes the choices.  McCain doesn't represent the thinking of Republicans, he represents what is acceptable to the MSM. So Brit, being that McCain is a sock puppet, our only leverage on McCain is getting on his back and playing the group rights game that was thrust on to us. Ordinarily we don't like this game, however, given no candidate is available to "represent" our thinking we must settle for the next best strategy. If McCain wants our votes, he must negotiate in good faith. If McCain can't even come to terms with Rush or Ann, then quite frankly, he can't come to terms with the rest of us.  If McCain believes he doesn't need us to win the election, then he will proceed as he is doing now.  We will not sell our votes for nothing, with the false dichotomy of a Dem or a Repub for the WH.  As far as we are concerned, with McCain there is no difference.  The ball is in McCain's court, if he wants a repeat of 2006 he is on track for those results.  If he wants a repeat of 1994, then he has to come up with a blueprint for his presidency with the rest of the GOP running for their various offices, i.e. leadership.  Your choice McCain, 1994 or 2006, which is it???  Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008  Long Live the Empire!  Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.

Look I think its brilliant

Look I think its brilliant if you are a club house Republican. We start off the primaries in some what liberal states, where Democrats can cross over. Then when that liberal/RINO’s gets traction its called momentum, pushed by the MSM (think NYT’s) attacks the conservatives in the race, think of Thompson/Mitt. Then fluff numbers on the favored candidate. So rather then have someone that represents any of the base you have it tilted left, via the “moderate wing of the party” with help from the MSM, and the “moderate wing” of the Republican party. (until you get into the race with the real leftist) Then they lower the boom (think of NYT’s again).  

We have to keep in mind that this is a fight with in our own party, do we let the liberal parts of the party take over (and loose) think of the last election, or do we fight and take it back or just leave.

I am not voting via holding my nose ever again.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

Not a 'sock puppet'

I agree with everything else in your post, but Juan McCain is not a sock puppet.  He is an irritating self-styled maverick and maybe a legend in his own mind, but he is his own creation. 

Carbon Credits Smoke'em if you got'em!

The difference between..

Want to know the difference between Russia's media and the United State's media?  Russia is controlled by a government takeover and glowingly report each night on what Putin did that day and where Medvedev went.  The U.S. Media report glowingly each day about B. Hussein Obama's fainting groupies, Hillary's socialist plan. 

The difference?  When the dems control the house, the senate and the White House they will legislate their way to controlling the last remaining voices of dissent and we will be just like Russia. 

With McCain in the White House we will have a buffer and a chance at veto.  With the dem choices we are done.

A nation that cannot secure its borders is not a nation.” Ronald Reagan

As opposed to what?

 

McCain is exceptionally strong on national defense, certainly not an attribute of recent democrats. I don’t know if McCain will increase military spending enough to guarantee the vote of some as expressed here, but he certainly won’t decimate the size of the military and the CIA and the FBI as Billy Boy did. He also is the only republican candidate who made success in Iraq at all costs a platform of his campaign, and had he been in office instead of Bush he may have had a greater number of troops in Iraq earlier increasing the chance that by now we’d have fewer men and women in harms way in Iraq.

If nothing else, he is the best republican to advocate success in Iraq, and he certainly will save American and Iraq lives compared to either democrat, including the continuance of terrorist surveillance programs, including the difference in international relations he would have compared to an Obama. Do you want an ex-prisoner of war hardass who Amadinejerk KNOWS has sung catchy little tunes about bombing Iran, or someone who wants to be buddies with dictators in the style of Jimmy Carter?

I don’t see, given the times we live in, given the absolute world altering terrorist disasters that could happen in the next 4 years, how a conservative republican can use issues such as immigration or taxes as their litmus test. Do I believe in securing the boarders ASAP yes, but I believe honoring the sacrifice of our troops by letting them finish the job and stomping out Alkeada trumps that significantly. Right now we need McCains speak softly (about bombing Iran) and carry a big stick philosophy on the international stage. Vote in a true conservative (if that is what you prefer) in 2012. Personally, I am waiting to see if the Myans are right about 2012, before I get to invested in 2013.

 

 

Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the costs become prohibitive - William F. Buckley J

 


I agree with you DMan

and especially with your "signature comment" by WFB!  Ideally we would all like someone more conservative, however, it appears that is not to be this time around.

My thoughts are that we must press him to select a conservative VP - someone who will be in a strong position to run and win in the future.

No matter how much I disagree with his crossing the aisle to hold hands with my senior senator, I think of how quickly our country would go down the drain with either Clinton or Obama and I know I will support him irregardless of our differences.

Most important of all is that Republicans MUST show up at the voting booths in November - we MUST elect CONSERVATIVES TO CONGRESS!!  That will be our Ace up our sleeves - they will keep the president, whoever it is, in line.  We MUST REGAIN THE MAJORITY!!!!

PS That History program was spooky - guess maybe we shouldn't make too many plans for December 22, 2012 ;-)

Its going to be a long 4

Its going to be a long 4 years regardless who wins. And in McCain's case, if he doesn't win his replacement will be a Democrat. So make that a long 8 years.

But getting off McCain's back will have the effect of sanctioning his policies. All of them. I don't.

If we sanction those policies, when they fail, the failure will be laid at Republican feet.

Also getting off McCain's back gives the liberals, especially in the media, something they want perhaps more than an Obama presidency. A shift in America's political spectrum.

The media has ingrained in people's minds that George Bush was a Hardcore Conservative. And the 'getting behind him' impulse from Republicans have many swearing he is one. The consequence is that someone with Reagan's politics today is too radical and extreme to get elected or garner any support.

If we don't make it known that McCain doesn't represent Conservatism, we give them another opportunity to keep shifting the center of the political spectrum to the Left.

jpm100

Exactly.Well said.The right is allowing conservatism to be defined by the left by being silent.

Damned if you don't...

At this point the equation seems to have boiled down to this: pick a fully conservative candidate and lose or go with John McCain whom, no matter what, is more conservative than the democrats.

You know, as well as I do, that no matter what objection you have with John McCain, a democrat would be worse by far in regards to that issue. You're worried about open borders with John McC ? Imagine what Obama would do. You don't like John's record on tax cuts? Give Hillary a shot at that one.

At least with John there's some chance he'll wake up to the rest of our positions. Obama will give you hope in a cloud and Hillary change without purpose.

Y'all have a good Sunday.

 

Nah, Guy, you just don't

Nah, Guy, you just don't understand.

It's better to vote for Obama than McCain, or to not vote at all and stay home.

That way, instead of only getting 20% or 30% of what you want, which is 85% in a candidate, by staying home or voting for Obama, you not only don't even get the20% or 30%, but you go in the other direction about 50%. 

To nitwits, that makes a lot of sense, and America has a lot of nitwits.   That's why the masses are considered the "ignorant masses" for good reason.

It's like saying if I can't plug that 1/2 inch hole in our boat,  I'll fix everyone and chop a 12 inch hole in it.

I am not a big fan of

I am not a big fan of McCain, but I will not be forced to shut-up. McCain needs to do more than just take my vote as an anti-Obama vote ( Hillary won't win ). How do we expect McCain to listen to us if we are to shut up?

That’s the point, they

That’s the point, they don’t care. They (the blue blood Republicans) with the likes of Mc Cain, Arlen Specter, Schwarzenegger, Rudy, Bob Dole. Just wish that we would all just go away, (but leave our vote and money) They don’t want to listen to us, “just shut up boy” and get to the back of the bus. After all it’s the only bus going that way.

So how did a lot of these  “quote”  (as John Mc Cain like to say it) Moderates do? Wendell Wilkie, Nixon (the last man to run as a Moderate for  POTUS), Bob Dole, Thomas Dewey, Nelson Rockefeller, Lincoln Chafee.

While I do understand the point that every one makes, half a pie is better then no pie, I’m just tired of less then half the pie.

That is why I keep pounding on the fence issue. It is the perfect example. 80% of America want it. Is it built? Are their delays? How fast did the congress get “own money” back to us to help the economy. Things happen if they want them to in the congress but they don’t if they don’t want it to. I am sick of the $hit sandwiches.

They believe they can win with out us, that much is clear, so let them. They keep saying: oh... they will come around, (that is something you would say about a child.) My money stays with me. 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Romney / Jendil  2012 (if,we survive)

  I'll stand corrected

 

I'll stand corrected on fully embracing Hume's "get off McCain's back" all or nothing statement.

Conservatives should not get off his back entirely because, as rightly said above, they should try to affect his policies. But they will only have an effect on his policies IF he gets elected. To let the country fall to pieces for 4 years, to seed a Reagan revival, is just irresponsible. You don't have to like him - but we can support him enough to prevent a democrat disaster.

 

 

 

"In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination." Mark Twain

There is only one thing

There is only one thing worse than a "liberal" and that is a "liberal" that claims he is not a "liberal".

Hmmm..."wolf in sheeps clothing" anyone???

 Sorry, I still despise McCain.  Not sure what I am going to do.   

FNC just another Dem-ogogery network

It is real sad (and dismaying) to see Hume become little more than the token conservative (4 vs. 1) on yet another news analysis show -- a format that we have come to expect for decades from the other networks.

FNC's Sunday morning show is hosted by the son of 60 Minutes' Mike Wallace (a pathological lying Leftist), two NPR staffers ('nuff said there) and the mumbling Bill Kristol whose dad was a hard-core Democrat disgruntled with changes made in '72 by peacenik George McGovern and who helped to infiltrate the GOP and created today's neo-conservatives.

Sell your stocks, your house and head for the hills and batten down the hatches. We have forsaken paradise on earth for hell on earth, coming soon.

»→ Britt Hume

There is an angle to Hume's comments that is not demeaning to conservatives.

I certainly hope conservatives aren't so thinskinned as to jump into the victim bathtub over a statement that is absolutely true.

There are those "conservatives" who would rather see a Clinton or Obama Presidency than a McCain Presidency.  They are not conservatives. 

♣ a seal

Brit and Bill are part of

Brit and Bill are part of the country club Republican set. And to make matters worse, they are in the belly of the beast being based in D.C., can you really expect them to be neutral? I totally understand why they are cheerleading for McCain, I just happen to disagree with them on our choice for prez.

"Abstain from McCain"

Well Brit

You are right in a sense.One thing McCain may be campaigning from the center but he isnt from the center.Supporting people who violate our law is not the center.Amnesty isnt the center.Being a friend of Soros isnt the center.Accusing Americans who believe we have the right to enforce our law and border of racism isnt center.Supporting Crazy Al on GW isnt center.This just disgust the sh@@ out of me.Choices so far are pathetic.Support Jimmy Carter wantabe/Clinton Corruption machine or Spanky McCain.

I think it is time to change:Socks 2008

"Brit Hume has some blunt

"Brit Hume has some blunt advice for conservatives: lay off McCain if you don't want a Dem president."

Hm, yes, handy advice if the issue were quite that cut and dried. However, the immediate future is of somewhat less concern to me than the future my kids may grow up in. The "Shut up and vote the party line; at least they aren't Democrats," mindset matters less and less as we let the Republicans slide further to the left. As I've said before, accepting a far-from-Conservative Republican just because of a letter tells the party they can be as liberal as they want, just so long as someone claims the Democrats are more so.

I don't want a Democrat in the office, but letting the Republicans turn into the Democrats is by far the greater evil.

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

"Brit Hume has some blunt

It'll be "A Cold Day in Hell" before I vote for McNutt! I'm tired of voting for "The Lesser of Two Evils!" Both major parties are ingrained with LiBruls/Socialists and I for one will not vote for any of the candidates in either major party thereby endorsing their actions/candidates! It will just encourage "More of the Same!"

Let the People Get Eggs Actly what they vote for, sadly it appears we must endure another Jimmuh Cataaah before Da People Get It?

History has shown time and again that LiBrulism/Socialsim does not work and yet we continue down that path!

 "Experience is the Best Teacher," apparently we are going to be forced to experience the Cataaah years once again!

Cortilleanardo....So, you prefer more Pelosi and Reid ?

This Election is about Stopping the Congress from Supporting the Enemy, it's about stopping the Lawmakers from increasing taxes, it's about Bringing MOVE ON dot Org to their knees such that MOVE ON doesn't run Congress, the American People Run Congress.  

If McCain can do the 3 items above, like he said he would, then NOT voting for McCain is voting for more Taxes, more Pelosi, More Reid, Retreat in Iraq, less Support for the Troops, and Peace thru Surrender.

I'm not Surrendering to Pelosi or the Dems, and "that's a fact Jack"

"If McCain can do the 3

"If McCain can do the 3 items above, like he said he would" Allow me to be blunt: He lied.

You think McCain is going to strongly oppose Democrat movements in Congress, veto tax hikes, and shut far left organizations out of politics? In that case, you need to review his record and associations, because you clearly don't know who you're talking about. Closing Guantanamo, pushing for AGW taxes and more tax dollars supporting illegal aliens, and "reaching across the aisle" as a "maverick" (read: Democrat in disguise) is McCain's real platform. If you want to tell the Reps "Fine, just ignore us conservatives; we'll vote for you anyway," go ahead, but I refuse to do so.

I'm not surrendering the political landscape to be reshaped however the far-left-controlled media desires, and the only way to prevent that is telling the Reps to (pardon my language) get their collective head out of their a$$ and start listening when their constituencies tell them something. Otherwise, politics will become a matter of a far-left party and a not-quite-as-far-left party. Will it be worse in the next four years? Possibly by a small margin (from best to worst: Obama, McCain, Clinton; there's a bit more at play than straight policy there, if you'd like me to explain later), but electing McCain would do far more damage by 2020.

I'll thank you to get my name right, as well. Simplistic implications are the liberals' field, I should think.

www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.

"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi

I heard Brit today... I

I heard Brit today...

I have some advice back to Brit...

Stick it.

Btw...I have been getting very sick of the McCain bandwagon on Fox for quite awhile now.

...JMO...

Sorry, Brit. No can do.

McCain is not a centrist. He is a left-of-center republican who I now consider to be further left that even William Jefferson Clinton.

I could not care less what the man says in his campaign speeches, as he can quote Ronald Reagan from now until hell freezes over, for all I care.

It is his voting record, particularly over the last eight years, that matters.

I'll get off his back when he has finally been hounded from the Republican Party.

John McCain is a liberal. He said so himself.

Sorry, but I'll not be

Sorry, but I'll not be voting for McCain.  This RINO has done everything in his power to undermine this president and his fellow GOP Senators!  Remember these little nuggets our Maverick was part of:

1. McCain-Feingold (Just say no to free speech!)

2. The Gang of 14 (Hey, he was just reaching across the isle!)

3. Comprehensive Immigration Reform

...just to name a few!

I'm sorry, but I'm no longer going to settle for RINO's!  This man is more interested in reaching across the isle to Dems and being loved by the Media, than about being loyal to his own party and voters!

Screw you McCain!

 

I will keep it simple...

Brit...you report, I'll decide. See...so easy even a newsperson can understand.