McCain Method: Tell Republicans They're Racist, Wrong and Stupid

McCain Method: Tell Republicans They're Racist, Wrong and Stupid

By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 19:44 ET

David Frum might not be every conservative's cup of tea. But un-fans of John McCain will find plenty to like in Frum's biting analysis of the Republican front-runner.

The former Bush speechwriter and author of Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again, was a guest on this evening's Tucker.

View video here.

Story Continues Below Ad ↓

DAVID FRUM: For the record, was it you who proclaimed John McCain the coolest candidate in American history in the year 2000?

TUCKER CARLSON: I still believe that, and John McCain is way more liberal than I am on a lot of things, and very annoying about it, often, from my point of view. But as a man, name another candidate who you'd like your son to grow up to be. Name one -- ever.

FRUM: You're right, he's an impressive guy; he's an impressive guy.

CARLSON: So what is this about? Other conservatives do not seem to feel the way I feel.

FRUM: People tend not to love those who don't love them back.

CARLSON: That's very . . . deep and true.

FRUM: John McCain has made it very clear over the last half-dozen years: he does not love the Republican party. He'll put up with it. He'll tolerate it. If they will follow him he will consent to lead them. But he does not love this party, and the party knows it. Plus there are the substantive issues, of which immigration is far and away the most important; it is a hugely important issue.

And a bit later . . .

FRUM: McCain doesn't just try to explain to the party why he disagrees. His method is to explain to the party why not only does he disagree, but they are racist and wrong and stupid for thinking the way they do, and people never like that.

And yet a bit later . . .

FRUM: He's not interested in the project of saving conservatism in the Republican party. He is really trying to build a personal movement with the Republican party as its vehicle.

BONUS COVERAGE: Check out this ripping anti-McCain TV ad that Tucker played at the beginning of the segment.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.

Comments Policy

All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters.

Two money quotes:

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:10 ET by motherbelt

Two money quotes:

If they [the Republican Party] will follow him he will consent to lead them.

He is really trying to build a personal movement.....

It's all about McCain and his ego...that's why he can't stop pandering to the press and the Democrats....he craves being the center of attention.

"It's all about McCain and

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:12 ET by Sonny Lykos

"It's all about McCain and his ego...that's why he can't stop pandering to the press and the Democrats....he craves being the center of attention."

Sounds like Bill Clinton, too.

I agree. I think they are

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:14 ET by motherbelt

I agree. I think they are very much alike.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:25 ET by Cape Conservative

don't let the msm lead us down THEIR chosen path! We do have a vote on Tuesday and perhaps if we all cram it down their throats, they'll get the message. John McCain is not a conservative thinker! I am so tired of a few thousand people in a couple of states AND THE MSM telling us who will be our candidate!

TIME FOR A NATIONAL PRIMARY DAY!!!!

blaming the msm again?

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:33 ET by shawn228

Was the msm responsible for the so called true conservatives no longer in the race? Thompson, Tancredo, Hunter are all gone.

The MSM is not telling you to do anything. Yes there is a liberal bias, but they are not forcing anybody to do anything. Mccain won Flordia fair and square just like Dubya in 00

New Superhero in town

In a way yes Shawn they are

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:44 ET by Blazer

In a way yes Shawn they are responsible. Thompson, Tancredo and Hunter along with Paul and Romney (although he's filthy rich) have to pay for air and print time. McCain gets all he wants for free, but then again he's a liberal.

Exposure and name recognition is everything and a great deal of the money spent on a campaign getting the message out is advertising.

If the media isn't so biased in this respect then they are certainly guilty of omission and being non-inclusive.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

blazer

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:54 ET by shawn228

I see your POV, yes McCain gets lots of air time, I won't deny that. The msm pretty much abandoned Mccain last yr when he was almost out of money. In fact the msm were kind of kicking when he was down. If memory serves me correct, I think Newsbusters even had a article using it as a example of liberal bias against poor defenseless Republican John McCain.

His amazing comeback has really impressed me and I like McCain because like Rudy Guiliani he tries to compromise and take the best of both parties. If McCain wins Super Tuesday the GOP only have themselves to blame. If they did a decent job when they had the Presidency and both chambers of congress, there would not be such a backlash.

New Superhero in town

Shawn, McCain

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:10 ET by Blazer

Shawn, McCain was almost out of the race because he was broke from his backstabbing. That begs two question's: where did his money come from? Would he still be in the race if he had to pay for exposure? I wouldn't attribute his comeback as "amazing", considering the media can kill and ressurect as they please.

Shawn no matter if a Republican Congress or the president did "a decent job" the msm would hardly report it as so, but I agree the GOP did grow complascent and drop the ball. The left look at compromise as being appeasement anyhow, compromise isn't allway's a redeemable trait to most conservatives considering thier candidates .

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

blazer

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:23 ET by shawn228

Mccain was losing money because Rudy Guiliani was the front runner. He cut cost and laid off many key advisers and campaign staffers.

When his poll numbers started going up again, is when he started having money flow again. If the Bush admininstration did a good job, I believe it would have been reported. After 911, Dubyas approval rating was over 80 percent until the war drums for Iraq.

Oil is hovering around 100 dollars a barrel, medical cost are going up, 9 trillion in debt., a housing market that might drag us into recession. People say all liberals talk about is gloom and doom, but these are real factors we must deal with eventually.

I realize Bush is not running in 08, but just like 00 When Dubya kept saying "we will bring dignity back to the White House" Clinton was not running either.

New Superhero in town

Sorry Shawn Guilianni being

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:40 ET by Blazer

Sorry Shawn Guilianni being the frontrunner didn't have anything to do with McCain's money drying up, that doesn't explain Paul and Huckabee. McCain didn't have support from anywhere.

Please explain to me the love affair the msm and the left have with McCain being he wont' pull our troop's from Iraq, and will most likely have us at war with Iran faster than Bush would. Exactly, he's a proxie, a useful idiot.

"Oil is hovering around 100 dollars a barrel, medical cost are going up, 9 trillion in debt., a housing market that might drag us into recession."

But yet we have had a Democrat do nothing Congress for over a year, that were elected on a "mandate". Oil being over $100 a barrel but yet we have plenty of our own to exploit,while producing in refineries that were built in the 1970's, no thank's to lib's and thier friend's like the Sierra club. Medical cost's going up because of people like John Edwards and having to treat illegal alien's who dont' pay.

"I realize Bush is not running in 08, but just like 00 When Dubya kept saying "we will bring dignity back to the White House" Clinton was not running either."

If you think any of the current crop of Dem's or McCain are going to bring dignity back to the Whitehouse then please pour me whatever your drinking.

Amazingly though Shawn, if McCain is the GOP nominee you and I may actually vote for the same nominee this year, unless of course your voting for McCain. : )

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

blazer

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:47 ET by shawn228

McCains money was drying up because he was down in the polls and from what I remember the frontrunner was Guiliani.

The msm love affair with McCain is because he is actually winning right now. If he was losing, they would go back to Huck.

The Democrat congress is not very popular right now and rightly so. I am not very impressed with them to say the least.

I never said the Democrats were going to bring dignity back the White House, it is just I hear day in and day out that "Don't Liberals realize Bush is not running in 08?" I was just pointing out that Clinton was very much on the ballad in 00.

New Superhero in town

Shawn I agree with most of

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:58 ET by Blazer

Shawn I agree with most of what you say hear but keep in mind Edward's was also never winning, but do you think you could possibly count the magazine cover's and television program's he was on. Also keep in mind before Florida Romney had more delegates than McCain and Huck, and Florida at the time was being considered too close to call, but yet he was AWOL with the press. McCain recieved alot of his major endorsement's before Florida.

Plus Hillary only won New Hampshire, supposedly Michigan and Florida dont' count how would you attribute all the freebies she keep's getting with her lack of endorsement's?

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

blazer

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:13 ET by shawn228

I have admitted to you in the past that Newsbusters has taught me that there really is a liberal bias, I do see it, but I disagree that they are the solely the ones responsible for the McCains comeback.

New Superhero in town

I never said that the msm

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:19 ET by Blazer

I never said that the msm was the sole responsible party, just coupled with independant's (psuedo-lib's), who will change thier party affiliation back when the proper time comes or will vote for the Dem nominee as an independant.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

aww come on Blazer

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:29 ET by shawn228

Whats wrong with independents? Even though I am a registered Democrat, I consider myself an independent voter.

I try to take a look at which party is the best to lead the country.

New Superhero in town

Yea, I saw what you did to

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:32 ET by Blazer

Yea, I saw what you did to Canada. :) -sarc on

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

hate to break it to you Blazer

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:56 ET by shawn228

The Conservatives are the majority in Canada and Stephen Harper the Prime Minister is a conservative.

I sure don't miss the weather there this time of year though. I love California, earthquakes and all.

New Superhero in town

I hate to break it to you

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:02 ET by Blazer

I hate to break it to you Shawn, but in the crazy-crazy-outlandish flip-fopped world of European style of government, the conservatives are not unlike the liberal's we have in Conress now and the liberal's are....well....well, indescribable.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Lol Blazer

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:10 ET by shawn228

You do have a point Blazer. I said it before and I will say it again Canada is Liberals wet dream. Universal Health care, gay marriage, goverment controlled everything.

New Superhero in town

I know Shawn, and we all

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:15 ET by Blazer

I know Shawn, and we all know how you feel about free speech, which by the way, a little birdy told me you fled Canada because the libs (conservatives) up there tried to haul you in front of the human right's commision for hate speech, because you accidentally said "terrorist's" instead of "freedom fighter's". : ) -sarc on

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

"Was the msm responsible?"

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:48 ET by RJ

Partly, yes, because they fawn over McCain and give him extraordinarily valuable coverage they never give the others.

No different than all the

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:52 ET by Blazer

No different than all the free townhalls and expose puff pieces the msm gives to the Dem candidates as well RJ. McCain is nothing but a proxy for the msm, a tool literally and figuratively.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

That's for sure! How many

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:04 ET by motherbelt

That's for sure! How many times has Her Royal Clintoness been on all three morning shows on the same day, to spout her talking points unopposed?

RJ

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:59 ET by shawn228

Ok RJ, maybe partly. I will give you that. The thing is I was just saying the other day, no matter how much the msm says Clinton is a great person, it will not change your mind will it?

People can make informed decisions on their own. I was just shocked on the last Newsbusters poll when an overwhelming majority blamed McCains Florida victory on the msm.

New Superhero in town

If someone doesn't have a

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:10 ET by motherbelt

If someone doesn't have a lot of different sources of information, and their main line is the network news and morning shows, and all they ever see is Hillary on there getting softball interviews and spouting her talking points with no refutation, and fawning interviews of John McCain, about how he is "bridging" the divide between the parties, you don't think that would influence their views?

motherbelt

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:15 ET by shawn228

If the Liberal bias is as bad as most claim on here and have such influence on the vote. Al Gore would have been sworn in 8 yrs ago.

New Superhero in town

It's not that they didn't

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:27 ET by motherbelt

It's not that they didn't try. They almost succeeded; the margin was very slim. If it wasn't effective, no one would waste their money buying advertising. The way the MSM play the "news" is just free advertising; they can use it in favor of whichever candidate they want. Not to say it's infallible, but it certainly helps.

That is because it is the Truth - McCain only won 36% in Florida

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:37 ET by PopularTech

But Florida proves that 64% of Republicans do not want McCain. The MSM can easily pull over 5% of the vote for any candidate and have done so for McCain over and over again. Once he annouced he wanted to fight global warming and is in favor of amnesty he is their GOP darling.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

"partly", shawn, was all it took

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 16:51 ET by RJ

Swinging elections as close as what we've been seeing in these primarys doesn't require convincing the entire electorate or even a majority. Statistically, all it takes is a few to make the difference.

Mccain won Flordia fair and

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:05 ET by motherbelt

Mccain won Flordia fair and square just like Dubya in 00 - shawn228

Not exactly. There were irregularities. It was reported in several places that Independents were voting in what was supposed to be a closed primary. CNN's exit polling showed that about 17% of the voters were "independent" meaning they should not have voted. 44% of those independents voted for McCain, compared to 23% for Romney.

motherbelt

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:10 ET by shawn228

Hindsight is 20/20. There will always be conspiricy theorys. Just like Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 04. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton talked about blacks not being allowed to vote.

McCain won Florida and he will most likely get Guilianis supporters votes as well. He is the front runner not because of the msm, but he has momentum on his own.

New Superhero in town

I am not pushing a

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:28 ET by motherbelt

I am not pushing a "conspiracy theory" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They spewed unsubstantiated charges such as Republicans using guns and dogs to keep blacks away from the polls. (They never produced a single person who said they didn't vote because they were intimidated.)

I am talking about exit polling done by CNN.

I don't think they are members of the VRWC.

and McCain has momentum because of the MSM stoking his furnace on a regular basis.

motherbelt

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:51 ET by shawn228

Well I'm not sure how this was missed. I guess they have to be extra careful on super tuesday huh? If McCain wins there will be no excusess then? Or will the fingers point to the msm again?

New Superhero in town

71.5% of Republicans not voting for McCain is Momentum?

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:55 ET by PopularTech

87% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Iowa
63% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in New Hampshire
61% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Michigan
87% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Nevada
67% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in South Carolina
64% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain in Florida

An average 71.5% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain as the Presidential Nominee

This is the truth and what the MSM is not reporting.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Remember these words

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:06 ET by KC Mulville

In a couple years, liberals will criticize President John McCain, complaining that he treats them like annoying pests for having the nerve to disagree.

They'll probably be right. Let's just admit this ahead of time. And when it happens, we'll say that yeah, we know that's unattractive. We're sorry, but we think it'd be worse to have you guys in charge. However, we'll promise to work on his politeness problem.

Right KC, in another

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:09 ET by Blazer

Right KC, in another dimension that will happen. In this one John McCain will not be president, real conservatives wont' allow it.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

The issue is...

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 20:38 ET by c5then

There are too many in the Republican party who place the party and beating the Democrats far above political ideology, values and principles. Because of that, the GOP is turning into a populist party not a conservative party. If they keep going in the direction that they are headed (and I see no indication otherwise) there will definitely be a 3rd party created just for the conservatives that have been abandoned by the Republican party. Maybe it will even attract some Libertarians and Constitutionalists and become as strong or stronger than the two older parties.

Oh, well...I can dream can't I?

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Finally

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:06 ET by jay_1975

c5then, I could not agree more. I have watched the Republican party slowly move away from conservatism for years. This undying loyalty to party will be their end. How long have the Republicans run on the core social issues of abortion and gay marriage, yet done nothing about it? Where is the fiscal responsiblity that they used to be so proud of? It used to be that if you wanted a candidate who not only talked about family values, but lived them as well, you went to the Republicans. I left the party, but I feel they left me a long time ago.

Gof for it

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:38 ET by funkdome

It would be great if the GOP got less ideological. Feel free to start the third party.

McCain

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:24 ET by TRH

The MSM has made McCain and they will break him. If McCain wins Super Tuesday and appears to be the clear nominee, the MSM will drop him loke a hot potato and will not pay any attention to him until he picks a VP. Then they will proceed to rip them both apart. McCain will learn the hard way. Sadly, it will be at the expense of the Republican party voters who are backing him and believe the MSM favorite son accolades that he is the only one with a chance when they clearly know he is the one with the least chance to win. When a Liberal likes a Republican, beware. Why does that even need to be said?

I think you're right. They

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:30 ET by motherbelt

I think you're right. They support him now because he is the least conservative of all the Republican candidates, and they love him because he;s the most like them.
Once he is (and I hope this doesn't come to pass) running against a REAL liberal, their true allegience to the left will win out.

Please

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:40 ET by funkdome

I support McCain and the MSM has got nothing to do with it. I can;t stand the liberal media as much as any of you and the notion that anyone who supports McCain does so because the MSM told him so is absurd.

You sound like angry liberals who can't accept that anyone really like Bush.

McCain is a RINO who think's

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:50 ET by Blazer

McCain is a RINO who think's he's a Donkey.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Funkdome do you want to fight global warming?

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:52 ET by PopularTech

I would like to know if you want to fight global warming and are in favor of carbon taxes?

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

-

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:03 ET by dahliatravers

*shudder*

funky, then just go right ahead and vote for Comrade McCain.

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:02 ET by R D Helm

As I am not a McCain socialist, nor a socialist under any other name for that matter, my vote shall be directed elsewhere.

And as for your earlier assertions (primarily aimed at me) asserting your "intellectual superiority," your support for McCain pretty much puts that load of BS to rest once and for all, as you are clearly a "useful idiot" for the republican left.

Rots-a-ruck, Chuck.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Republican left? I had funky

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:04 ET by Blazer

Republican left?

I had funky pegged as a centrist-Democrat myself.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Blazer,

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:22 ET by R D Helm

Republican left/democrat center. Same thing if you aske me. Lol.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

lol exactly RD, or a

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:31 ET by Blazer

lol exactly RD, or a lapdog.... err I mean a Blue Dog if ya' like...woof, woof.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

71.5% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain as the President

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 21:53 ET by PopularTech

An average 71.5% of Republicans Do Not Want McCain as the Presidential Nominee

This is the truth and what the MSM is not reporting.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

But they don't have any

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:34 ET by motherbelt

But they don't have any effect, dontcha know! Shawn says so.

ummm motherbelt?

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:44 ET by shawn228

When did I say they do not have any effect, I said if McCain wins do not blame in on the msm. If pop techs fuzzy math is correct I guess Mitt is a shoo in come Tuesday huh?

New Superhero in town

No Fuzzy Math just the Facts

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 22:47 ET by PopularTech

McCain is barely winning over 30% of the vote in the states he won, hardly momentum. The Facts don't change 71.5% of Republicans do not want McCain - That is the reality.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

LBJ meets John McCain

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:04 ET by Lame Cherry

I have a quote on my site, "The always expert is the expert always" which is why the name Lame Cherry is a God given humor at the dolts in society from expert Hugh Hefner one sex who knows nothing about it to these manufactured "experts" like Frum who show up on Token Carlson's program.

I do not know who these 2 were watching, but I see nothing impressive about John McCain. Last night he was on the Tonight Show and he was dwarfed by Leno.......that about says it all about McCain, unless one desires to view the boy he is.

LBJ was a Democrat and one of the most ruthless bastards in the business. He was allot like McCain........and I disagree that McCain is looking to build a movement. LBJ was simply looking for a way to be loved, because his mother denied him love.........McCain is not looking for love at all nor a movement. So much for the expert Frum.

McCain is not that difficult to profile. He is a military brat in the strongest of terms of a brat. He is the 3rd John McCain III in a line of Admirals where McCain thought that those saluting his stellar grandfather and dad should not pick on him or others either.
He grew up living that dichotomy and it had him acting out in school so much they put him into a strict private school where wrestling and fighting were his loves and he got the nickname McNasty.

He had the same problems in Naval College with over 100 demerits a year still in rebellion over being John McCain.

Make no mistake in John McCain is one tough son of a bitch as that is what got him through being tortured by those cursed communists in North Vietnam, but McCain is not on a crusade to lead a movement.....he is just a pissed off kid yet, angry over what commies did to him and thrives on "sticking it to the people on top".

While LBJ seeks love, McCain seeks conflict to feed off of.

As I write this, I can not think of one other more fitting comparsion than Capt. Frederick Benteen of the 7th Cavalry whom I have profiled. Benteen could be quite generous, but he had an amoral streak in him and a blind hatred to all those who were superiors over him.

John McCain feeds on that same level. He does not know when to shut his mouth and goes out of his way to self destruct with the psychopathy of being a loner.
A classic example was his dumping his first wife and marrying the current blonde. His children never even attended the wedding, but McCain was unmoved. That is the telling trait in John McCain and quite a dangerous one as he will act out in insolation while bullying subordinates into actions triggered in him by anger and not consideration or prudence.

For example, Hillary as president would worry over legacy issues and criminality issues before acting out even in the most murderous of situations. McCain will simply bully all and pull the trigger.
McCain is fine when an authority is over him, but without that authority he is prone to really piss things up.

Pardon my French in the above, but we are discussing a military man and the terms fit.

McCain is still fighting his heroic grandfather and dad who were both Admirals and of great ability. This is why he is always standing outside with the worst communist Democrats he can find pissing in the GOP cloak room.

I have no idea what John McCain would personally do if to gain power in the White House, but I do know he will act out in Hillary or Nixon fashion on his enemies.
One only has to look at his behavior in exacting revenge on President Bush for 4 years in screwing up his presidency.

John McCain shows lack of good judgment, but a propensity to dump even his wife to gain a better version and will sell himself as he did in the Indian gaming payoffs.

It appears now that my posts here at Newsbusters are being read by the cartel as exposing Al Gore as a stealth candidate has him backing off. I do not believe as Hillary betrayed the cartel that they will ever allow her to win the nomination........and those racists of eugenics are not going to allow Obama to win an election even if having him in the White House would be like having a twit gaurding the queen's jewels.

That leaves now olde 37% John McCain as the cartel's puppet. McCain can be counted on to stab Conservatives and America in the back as he proved on Abu Gharib and McCain in the war that the cartel is fomenting in the Middle East can be counted on to fire the nuclear missiles in retaliation.

I personally could not even vouche that Dick Cheney could control McCain if he were VP and in the "worst situation" John McCain does indeed make me apprehensive for America's future. Less than Al Gore, Bloomberg and Hillary, but not as much as Obama. (providing Obama kept his promise and put key Republicans into Defense and CIA)

I do not like elections where the people I do not support end up getting the nomination as they always turn out bad.

I feel right now like the gunny who is told he has a chance to be a hero as the enemy are at the door, but the only troops he has are dopers, murderers and rapists from the brig.
You might do ok providing they don't kill you instead of the enemy.

We need an Andy Jackson or a Ronald Reagan. God help us as we have neither.................but do have a Frum as an expert.

God help us.

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

McCain is one of those...

Sun, 02/03/2008 - 02:40 ET by Britcom

viscous carreer government employees who eventualy goes berzerk in the post office with an uzi. Its best not to upset him, just promote him out of your department.

enough

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:48 ET by bigdogtx

I'm sick of this McCain bashing bull. All of these proud conservatives...Hannity and Rush who have served their country by running their mouths are now bashing a man who gave years of his life as a POW to his country. I'm a conservative who thinks McCain was right for opposing the tax cuts because there were no restrictions on spending...anyone remember the bridge to nowhere? He was the first person to tell Bush his war strategy was crap and support the surge...guess he was right. He has an 83 conservative rating and 22 years of service. Yes, both Feingold and Kennedy were crap...but reaching across the ailse doesn't make you any less republican unless you are an extremist. To all of you who consider yourselves Reagen Conservatives just remember that he was there with Reagen...worked with Reagen...and has given more for this country than any of us can even imagine. My father fought in Vietnam and my brother is in the service now and he has all of our votes.

If you think McAmnesty is

Fri, 02/01/2008 - 23:54 ET by Blazer

If you think McAmnesty is presidential material bigdog, then you just might find your self back at the Alamo again trying to keep Texas from being reclaimed by Mexico.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Kennedy = Amnesty

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:27 ET by bigdogtx

sorry i didn't write that in big enough letters...that bill was CRAP. Guess i forgot also that all conservatives have to fall in lock step with Coulter and Rush...btw...Reagen gave amnesty

(sigh)........here we go

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:32 ET by Blazer

(sigh)........here we go the psuedo conserv's bashing the real conserv's with our "marching order's" because we wont' drink lite beer. I got a great new past-time for ya' bigdog, one TK would love, it's called driving and snorkeling.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

my god...who gave you or

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 03:31 ET by bigdogtx

my god...who gave you or anyone the right to decide what a conservative is? i thought this website would be more open minded than the far left but you guys really prove that extreme is extreme...no room for any debate...no room for any differance. if you all define conservatives, then i'll gladly stop being one

→ Forgive us BigDog

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 04:37 ET by Cool Arrow

Seems there's a McCain Derangement Syndrome permeating this place.

On the one hand, we condemn articles predicated entirely on the "I Hate Bush" mantra, and on the other it seems we'll display identical symptoms (different focus), and lash out at anybody who won't shout "I hate McCain" or "I hate Huckabee.

♣ a seal

Is it okay to point out the fact that McCain hates us...

Sun, 02/03/2008 - 02:32 ET by Britcom

And everything we stand for as Republicans.

Common sense bigdog can

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 10:14 ET by Blazer

Common sense bigdog can dictate whether one's a conservative or not. If one chooses to stop being a conservative, it probably mean's they were not one to begin with, which probably wouldn't be a far stretch as far as you being enamoured with McCamnesty. As for me, i just quit being a Republican, not a conservative.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Romulan Conservatism

Tue, 02/05/2008 - 07:26 ET by Britcom

Hey, Mitt Romney is a Real Conservative we are told. But is he really a
true believer? I wondered, so I did a little checking. Good thing we
have YouTube. :^)

Romney's "Conservative" positions explained, IN HIS OWN WORDS CAUGHT ON VIDEO.

(h/t YouTube)

Is this a joke?

Tue, 02/05/2008 - 08:08 ET by PopularTech

1. He raised fees to match the cost of the service provided which LOWERS taxes by not subsidizing them.

2. He literally said that they should be allowed to APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP - do you know what that means? Anyone that is not a citizen can apply. This has nothing to do with Amnesty.

3. Having tough gun laws on say the MISUSE of guns does not make you pro-gun control.

4. That was redited as was the whole clip to cut off and manipulate exactly what he said. He in no way supports quotas or that the government should impose standards on hiring by private enterprises or by the government. He was talking about a private, information oriented approach to seeking diversity.

5. Um, what part of that did you not understand about China? That is not a Pro-China position that is a realitic position.

6. He invested in RUSSIAN COMPANIES! Hello by this logic everytime you buy gas from a Lukoil gas station you are supporting Iran.

7. Did you not just hear him say he supports the Boy Scouts of America's Decision to decide who it wants to allow in?

8. He clearly says he is "PERSONALLY PRO-LIFE BUT DOES NOT IMPOSE HIS BELIEFS ON OTHERS". Hardly a raving Pro-Choice position.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Romney's conversion, is it complete?

Tue, 02/05/2008 - 10:18 ET by Britcom

1. He raised fees to match the cost of the service provided which
LOWERS taxes by not subsidizing them. The fees increases amounted to
$260 million a year not the other ridiculous amounts.

Okay, so he raised fees by $260 million per year... so then if he were
president, it would be okay with you if he raised Federal fees in a
similar way?

2. He literally said that they should be allowed to APPLY FOR
CITIZENSHIP - do you know what that means? Anyone that is not a citizen
can apply. This has nothing to do with Amnesty.

So, illegal aliens don't have to be deported, but they can apply for
citizenship, and presumably be granted it, and what happens to them
while we are waiting for them to get citizenship? Do they keep their
jobs? Do we prosecute their bosses for hiring them? Do we let their
kids stay in school? Do we give them Social Security benefits?

3. Having tough gun laws on say the MISUSE of guns does not make you pro-gun control.

Some people believe wanting any gun laws make you pro-gun control. So what would you consider a "misuse" of a gun?

4. That was redited as was the whole clip to cut off and manipulated
what he said. He in no way supports quotas or that the government
should impose standards on hiring by private enterprises or by the
government. He was talking about a private, information oriented
approach to seeking diversity.

So Romney is pro-diversity. But isn't that a liberal idea? Wouldn't it
be better for business if you hired the best person for the job, even
if it meant that the management of your company might consist of all
white Anglo-Saxon-protestant men?

5. Um, what part of that did you not understand about China? That is not a Pro-China position that is a realitic position.

I did not understand the part about helping Americans to do business
with a Communist Dictatorship that doesn't allow its citizens freedom
of Religion, Press, Speech, Assembly, Unreasonable search and seizure,
or the right to life, liberty, or property. Do you think Romney wants
to do business with Cuba too?

6. He invested in RUSSIAN COMPANIES! By this logic everytime you buy
gas from a Lukoil gas station you are supporting Iran...

Well... yes.

7. Did you not just hear him say he supports the Boy Scouts of America's Decision to decide who it wants to allow in?

Why would Romney say,"I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation" if he is a conservative? Does he still believe this, or has he changed his mind on this too?

8. He clearly says he is "PERSONALLY PRO-LIFE BUT DOES NOT IMPOSE HIS BELIEFS ON OTHERS". Hardly a raving Pro-Choice position.

Okay, so Romney would not "personally" have an abortion, but what about
the right to life for the unborn? Clearly he did not express a right to
life position. Isn't that just a samantic cover up for being
pro-choice? Doesn't Hillary maintain that same position? Isn't that
really a liberal view of abortion?

Blazer,

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:43 ET by R D Helm

LOL-Heck, I feel like I am defending the Alamo when trying to get coffee at my local QT in the morings.

And if the feds continue to claim they cannot find any illegals to deport, I'll just give 'em the address to said store. One hour on site would keep 'em busy for three months just processing the paperwork!

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Who ya' kidding RD, you

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:52 ET by Blazer

Who ya' kidding RD, you and I both know "the Fed's" in thier gated communities and thier kiddies in private school, with thier pampered job's on the Hill , dont' see, or have never seen, the immigration problem's like we do. Meanwhile whole communities are turning into third world mini-communities. I can drive up some street's here n Richmond, Va, and think I'm in Mexico City.

The politician's on both sides refer to Cheech's "Born In East L.A." as reference and study material.

The "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Blazer,

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:01 ET by R D Helm

Well, next time you are in Atlanta, give me a heads-up.

LOL!

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

sure will RD, never been

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:07 ET by Blazer

sure will RD, never been further south than Charlotte however.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

I partly agree bigdog

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:51 ET by Brad999

I agree that the "conservative elite", including Rush, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter and many others are against McCain big time and there is clearly a bias against not only him, but Mike Huckabee as well. These arrogant individuals know that conservatives will follow them and listen to them without doing research for themseleves. It is clear that FOX News favors Romney. Sean Hannity himself came out yesterday and said that he endorses Romney! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt-P4HoppiQ Now how is that for bias? I do not agree with some of McCain's stances on issues and would not vote for him, but I will stand up for the truth and say that Fox and other conservatives are running a smear campaign against McCain and Huckabee.

You see, Romney, like these guys, is a "big-money" conservative that will help them old onto their power and he is essentially their boss. Romney owns about 48% of stock in the parent company of Clear Channel which runs Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, Bain Capital. Do a little research and you'll quickly discover this is true. Sounds like a good way to prepare to run for president doesn't it? Buy the media and have them promote you and slam all others that are opposed to you. Romney is not a true conservative and Romney is the John Kerry of the 2008 election. Mitt Romney changes his positions based on how they will help him. The conservative elite favor Romney because when it comes right down to it, it is about money. The Republican party has become the party of the wealthy conservative elite and the establishment has became an establishment of greed.

I believe Mike Huckabee, when he is elected President come November will bring the Republican party back to its conservative roots. I challenge anyone reading this to in fact do research for him or herself about the candidates and learn about the "real" Mike Huckabee. Don't believe what the media tells you, whether it be CNN or FOX. Check out http://www.mikehuckabee.com/ as well.

Mike is the true conservative in this race and our ONLY hope against Hillary or Obama. Afterall just watch Mike debate. Mike is the best debater and an intelligent and honest man. McCain and Romney do not have a chance against either of these Democrats and Huckabee has beaten the "Clinton machine" three times in Arkansas.

One more thing: Whatever happened to the true conservatism of our party? What happened to the issues of abortion, gay marriage, wise spending and lowering taxes? Are Mitt Romney and John McCain going to bring the GOP back to what it once stood for and bring us victory come November? I hardly think so. If one does research into each of these mens positions, one will find a great lack of conservatism. At least John McCain is a little more honest about himself than Romney. Romney is dishonest and will say what it takes to buy the presidency.

I only hope that you, my friends, and every other voter, will do the research for themselves and not allow the news media to tell them how to think. It's sad state our country is in when the news media, both liberal and conservative is allowed to tell us how to think and what to do. I don't watch the news anymore because I like to find truth for myself and the news media most certainly does not give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

God Bless you all

- Every American should seek to find the truth themselves, instead of blindly following and believing the news media and the talking heads. This includes FOX, Rush, Ann Coulter and many more; not just the liberal media.

quick question Brad

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:01 ET by candance

If Huckabee really wants to preserve social conservatism, why is he not out there criticizing John McCain like he criticizes Mitt Romney?

Simple can, because Romney's

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:04 ET by Blazer

Simple can, because Romney's religion doesn't gel with his, which I dont' feel should be the litmus test at all concerning prez candidates, conservatism is. I'll tell you what though can baby, maybe in 2012", Bobby Gindal will be our "Rockstar", and he's Indian.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

well blazer

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:18 ET by candance

Huckabee can use denomination as a weapon all he wants to and all that will do is drive people away. He's Southern Baptist. I'm Pentecostal. That means I should ignore him and look for someone in my church to support.

What, that doesn't work? We're both Christians with strong beliefs?

But not those evil flip-flopping Mormons.

I am against Huckabee for a whole mess of reasons (immigration comes to mind, as does class warfare and global warming) but the religious division really makes me mad and it makes the rest of us look bad in the process.

Oh, and one more thing: if Romney drops out, none of his people will go to Huckabee. They will simply go third party.

Im' Catholic, but I put

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:35 ET by Blazer

Im' Catholic, but I put my reigious belief's behind my absolute yearning's for true conservatism, or as close as we can get to it. Religion is not my litmus test, or a pre-requisite for a presidential candidate. True conservatism is my religion.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

Can't wait for Bobby

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 20:03 ET by red_dragon311

Can't wait for Bobby to make a play for the white house

hell if Obama can do it 2 years after wining a senate seat, Bobby will have 4 to 5 years as gov. and he's Indian

"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin

That doesn't change the fact that...

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 01:36 ET by Britcom

McCain is seriously psychologicaly disturbed and needs to be watched constantly. McCain is a sympathy case, not a man who lead other men into a heroic battle. Trouble follows McCain around like a puppy. Is that what you want in the White House; a loose cannon with a double charge of powder?

Sen. McCains service in Vietnam was honorable

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 09:15 ET by Iowa Boy

His service to the people of Arizona and the United States as US Senator is self-serving.

He is not a conservative because of any core beliefs. He is dishonest when he says he's conservative. He voted against tax cuts (a foundational tennent of conservatism) not once, but twice. He co-wrote legislation which curtails free speech rights guaranteed in the 1st Ammendment to the Constitution of the United States. He co-authored legislation to diminish the sovereignty of the USA by allow people who entered this country illegally to stay. (For the record, President Reagan was wrong when he signed his amnesty bill.) Sen. McCain co-sponsored legislation which would take away more freedoms from businesses and private citizens in the name of "saving the planet from global warming". Finally, he undermines the defense of our country by wanting to close Gitmo and give constitutional rights to captured al Qaeda terrorists.

He does all this with a "thumbing his nose" attitude toward his party and the people who elected him. His latest campaign ad says he's the conservative choice. Not even close. Barry Goldwater, a real conservative Senator from Arizona, is spinning in his grave.

In November, I'm voting Write-in because voting for Senator McCain would be exactly the same as voting for Sentators Clinton or Obama.

"That's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller

→ Iowa Boy

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 09:22 ET by Cool Arrow

McCain did refuse to vote for the tax cuts. He stated at the time it was because it did not carry with it any spending cuts.

The President himself has vetoed needed appropriations because they contain more pork than he's willing to accept.

It is possible McCain honestly thought a tax cut should be accompanied by spending cuts as well.

That's just another take on it.

♣ a seal (BOHICA)

McCain supporters keep

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 09:50 ET by nythatesusa

McCain supporters keep making the claim that he opposed the tax cuts because of his concerns about spending. These are just a few of his quotes from 2000 to 2004:

- "I don't think Bill Gates needs a tax cut. I think you and your parents do" January 2000

-"I won't take every last dime of the surplus and spend it on tax cuts that mostly benefit the wealthy. I'll use the bulk of the surplus to secure Social Security far into the future to keep our promise to the greatest generation" January 2000(So even when there was a surplus, he was talking against tax cuts)

- "I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportional amount that went to the wealthiest Americans." April 11, 2004.

How can McCain supporters continue to make the claim that he voted against the tax cuts because of deficit concerns? Please be honest.

One tax that he will definitely not be supporting is the Windfall-Marriage Tax. Neither will his friend John Kerry.

Support the Windfall-Marriage Tax

OK

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 10:10 ET by Cool Arrow

I stand corrected, I guess.

It wasn't my intention to be dishonest to you.

I'm not a McCain Supporter. But you're free to believe what you wish.

Sorry about that. For the

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 10:12 ET by nythatesusa

Sorry about that. For the record, I don't believe you are dishonest. I was really trying to get some response from people who make this argument about McCain and tax cuts. I hope people will continue to respond promptly and make sure this, let's say, "mistaken belief", does not go unchallenged.

→ Honestly, nythatesusa

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 10:17 ET by Cool Arrow

I believed him when he said it in the debate.

Your post directed me to do some digging on my own. You were right. Thanks.

♣ a seal

Cool Arrow

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 19:46 ET by candance

This is why we keep imploring people to take a closer look at McCain. People say he would still be better than Hillary but when you actually look at the details he isn't.

He has lied about a dozen things just like he lied about the tax breaks. He's hiding his position on Al Qaeda. He's changing his story about SCOTUS judges.

We're not just blindly attacking him because we hate him. We do have legitimate points that people are ignoring.

Wrong!!!

Sun, 02/03/2008 - 16:37 ET by masslibertarian

You are flatly incorrect when you say "He stated at the time it was because it did not carry with it any spending cuts."

"At the time," he stated that he didn't want to give tax cuts to the rich. He came up with the spending cut line for the election.

The "tax cuts for the rich" b.s. is predictable coming from the libs. It would be great to have an opposing presidential candidate who might counter this claim in a debate by pointing out simple truths like the fact that 97% of all federal income taxes are paid by the top 50% of household incomes.

It's kind of hard to give a tax cut that doesn't disproportionately go to "the rich," when they're the ones paying taxes in the first place. They're also the ones investing these lower taxes to create businesses and jobs.

Instead of reading Alan Greenspan's book, maybe McCain should have started with Milton Friedman and Arthur Laffer.

even Fox News is on the bandwagon

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:29 ET by candance

Did any of you all watch Hannity & Colmes tonight? They had that annoying dude Frank Luntz on there and he was going on about how the Democrats were so popular for getting along and how Romney looked so mean jumping on McCain.

Then he said McPain has the lead because the Republican party is beginning to unite with him. Sean said nothing. Then they decided to turn to Ann Coulter's comments - but not to explain her position, only to bash her for being so hateful.

This will not be an election between the left and the right. It will be the left and the center.

Ummmm can, when you say

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:41 ET by Blazer

Ummmm can, when you say "even Fox News" your giving validation to the lib's on thier belief that FOX is conservative. I've alway's thought FOX was in the middle or at least further to the right than left,but certainly not the sock-puppet for conservatives the left think's it is.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."

blazer

Sat, 02/02/2008 - 00:52 ET by candance

I've never thought Fox News was really conservative and the fact that liberals say it is, that's even more proof they don't get conservatism at all.

Fox News has found a niche being slightly right of center, but in no way are they puppets for conservatives.

It just really struck me as annoying though that Sean can spend his radio show bashing McPain and then help the media spread the lie that Republicans are gelling under McPain. One little five-minute trek through the blogosphere would show them it's a lie.