The VRWC rides again, but this time it's apparently going after a Republican . . .
Mike Huckabee went on Morning Joe today and toyed with suggesting a "conspiracy" composed of the "Washington power circles" was out to get him. At 7:41 AM ET, the former Arkansas governor was discussing his efforts in South Carolina with Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.
View video here.
MIKE HUCKABEE: We're doing OK in South Carolina. We're up on television, we've got a good budget here, a good buy. We also have an extraordinary ground operation in South Carolina. I really believe we're going to win here; it makes sense for us to win here. We're working hard. We don't take anything for granted. Voters in South Carolina are very smart.
I don't think they're responding very well -- there's so much negative. There's a bunch of Washington special interest groups that are coming into town today [the Club for Growth and Freedom Works are holding a joint presser on the Huckabee record] to attack me. It's amazing. I'm the only guy who's just getting hammered from some of these special interest groups, and I think that'll really turn for me and against some of these folks. Because it's pretty obvious that, there's gotta be, almost this, I don't want to use the word conspiracy, but there's just an anxiety that exists in the Washington power circles about our candidacy.
"I don't want to use the word 'conspiracy'"? Little late for that, isn't it?
Reaction:
Michelle Malkin: "Ick."
Quin Hillyer at AmSpecBlog: "This isn't a conspiracy, it's a consensus."
AllahPundit: "Scratch the surface of any type of identity politics and you’ll find this logic underneath."
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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Those pesky special interest "conservative" interest groups...
January 16, 2008 - 13:52 ET by orlandocajunThe Club for Growth and Freedom Works are two of the most conservative organizations in the country. Maybe Huckabee should be asking them, and himself, why "they're out to get him". Could it be because he's not a conservative? I only hope that they're out to get McCain too.
What Does $585,000 Buy You?
January 16, 2008 - 17:23 ET by vrwc13http://www.mikehucka...
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Answer: It bought Mitt Romney backers a smear job against Mike Huckabee orchestrated by Beltway Insiders.
The Huckabee "Fortress Mentality"
January 16, 2008 - 17:41 ET by RJwhine, whine, whimper, slash.
The whining gives Huckabee and his backers a sense of "justification" when they engage in their own nasty tactics and name calling.
Mike Huckabee....I mean come
January 16, 2008 - 18:28 ET by obxrayMike Huckabee....I mean come on.Why did you run as a R when your a D. Funny how no real conservatives will vote for you.
Ann Coulter has endorsed
January 17, 2008 - 00:00 ET by Gary P JacksonAnn Coulter has endorsed Mitt Romney. That's all I need to hear!
http://www.humaneven...
And Ann is wrong on this...
January 17, 2008 - 00:04 ET by Clear thinkerAnn is known for making some pretty wild statements. This may be the wildest yet. Even Ann get's it wrong some of the time.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
even Rush doesn't have a
January 17, 2008 - 00:08 ET by Conservative Voiceeven Rush doesn't have a problem with Mitt...so why do you? The only ones Rush thinks will destroy the party is Huck and McCain.
→ Rush for Mitt
January 17, 2008 - 00:14 ET by Cool ArrowI like Mitt too. But he's still a RINO.
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You got that right!
January 17, 2008 - 00:19 ET by Gary P JacksonYou got that right CV!
So we got Rush Limbaugh liking Mitt Romney, and Ann Coulter Liking Mitt Romney. Neither one of these people pull opinions out of their fannies!
If two certified card carrying conservatives like the man, it's hard to say he ain't for real! Make sure you read her column:
http://www.humaneven...
Yeah but.... Rush
January 17, 2008 - 00:20 ET by Clear thinkerYeah but....
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Clear, did you vote for Bob
January 17, 2008 - 01:30 ET by Conservative VoiceClear, did you vote for Bob Dole, either Bush, or Ford? They didn't pass the smell test for conservative either. Heck, I don't even consider Fred to be all that conservative because of the campaign finance reform he helped pass. Is he more conservative than Romney is some areas? Yes, but Romney is more conservative than Fred in others.
If you don't want to vote for Romney in the primaries, because you think Fred is the real deal, fine. But if you voted for Bob Dole, either Bush or for Ford, than you voted for people who are more liberal than Romney.
Very well said. Look
January 17, 2008 - 04:29 ET by Gary P JacksonVery well said.
Look guys, I'm relatively new here. Read a lot of posts before I started posting myself, so bear with me.
CV is right on. Ford was a placeholder. Bush 41 was not a conservative. Bush 43 is conservative on some things and a bit liberal on others. Which, if you analyzed 99% of the Republican base you'd probably see the same. Bob Dole, who is a true hero, was a lousy candidate.
Here's what folks have to realize, after we pick a candidate to run for office, we need to get behind them 100%.!
A vote for a third party, will be a vote for Hillary/Obama!
A write in vote of some sort, will be a vote for Hillary/Obama!
Sitting on your hands at home, will be a vote for Hillary/Obama!
So after the convention, if you think one of those options are for you, don't screw around, just vote for Hillary/Obama to start with.
Look, this is a long election cycle. Everyone is already tired.
I like Fred, but he ain't Ronald Reagan. He's actually worked with Planned Parenthood. But his main problem, and Rudy's too, is he's not competing. Fred was way late to the party, by almost a year. He's only recently proved he's still breathing. If he's not the nominee, you can chalk that up to poor strategy.
I like Rudy. But he has just laid out of too many races. He will do well in Florida, just as Fred will do OK in SC. But like Fred, it's too little too late.
So that leaves us with McCain, who is probably done. But the case against him is long. He is waaaaay too quick to partner up with the most liberal of the libs. McCain-Feingold is a huge assault on the First Amendment. McCain-Kennedy was the huge amnesty those two cooked up. It almost caused an insurrection! Then there is his belief in Algore's religion, which should have him booted from the party!
Huckabee is a liar, a good liar, but still a liar. He's a sneaky little $hit. Look how he's not released ads, but shown them to the media, thus getting free airtime. He's constantly bashing his opponents and yet denying it.
Romney is not perfect. The only man to walk the Earth who was, left Earth thousands of years ago. As far as character goes, the man has the same wife he's always had. He has good looking bright kids. There aren't tons of scandals rattling around in his locker! The man went out and saved the Salt Lake City Olympics. He did well in the private sector. They bought companies and turned them around. His public record could only be called success. Sure, some of the things he did we don't like. Man, Reagan give millions of illegals amnesty!
I've always wanted a CEO type running the country. From what you read of the man, he has a sharp mind, works hard, works smart, and enjoys solving problems most would run from. How are those traits a bad thing?
We are at a crossroads in this nation. We can pick a Republican who can lead us, or a Dim who will destroy us. THAT'S how serious this crap is.
Here's how I look at it: History has a way of picking the right man, at the right time. For example, when Ronald Reagan came into office, the country was beat down. The moral of the nation was non-existent. Carter fixed that for us! We needed a fatherly type of man who was kind, but strong. Reagan achieved so much in his eight years.
George W Bush was the right man on 9/11. He acted swiftly to put us on offense. All markets are cyclical, and we seem to be slowing down, but Bush has been very good on the economy. Yes, he let his fellow Republicans spend too much, but I'm sure it's hard, politically, for a Republican President to veto a Republican Congress' bill. But history will show Bush 43 was the right man, for the right time.
In my opinion, Romney is now the right man, for the right time. Anyone think he couldn't rip Obama, or Hillary apart?
Continuing the War on Terror, and keeping the economy hitting on all cylinders will be top priorities. As will working on both old and new energy sources. Mitt is up to those tasks.
Right man, right place, right time!
→ Good analysis Gary
January 17, 2008 - 05:12 ET by Cool ArrowA bit heavy handed against Huckabee. It's just that any of the candidates can be labeled as "liars"
But all in all, a good analysis. Thanks.
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I appreciate that. I enjoy
January 17, 2008 - 07:12 ET by Gary P JacksonI appreciate that. I enjoy a hardy debate, but don't want to make anyone mad. And yes, I'm tough on Huck. Just watching his actions are enough to make me highly suspicious. It's just a personal thing.
I don't think he will be on the ballot come November, at least not in the first position. Once we start voting in states were the Republicans are, this deal will look different.
Romney has a good lead with 42 points, but it takes 1191 points to win, so it's still wide open. There's a scenario where Rudy or Fred could win. It's a long shot, but Huck or McCain might squeak by. Don't know the delegate situation, but heard Romney say he was gonna win Nevada. He'll probably get second place in SC. And he may win Florida, if Rudy don't.
This is quite a sport, trying to handicap the winner in this deal! Honestly, since this is so wide open, it's good for the party. While the dims are out there slingin' racial slurs at one another, we're having a debate, and all of our ideas are being spoken out loud. In the end, we are the winner.
→ Full disclosure. I like Fred
January 17, 2008 - 07:24 ET by Cool ArrowFred's starting to talk tougher. I don't know if he can catch up with his current pace, but still hoping.
Not crazy about McCain, Huck, or Romney, though I could support a Romney Presidency.
I like our odds against Hillary, but not against Obama.
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cool -- yeah, Fred's out if
January 17, 2008 - 13:05 ET by Jack Bauercool -- yeah, Fred's out if he doesn't place high in SC.
Then interesting to see if he throws in behind anyone. I would be VERY disappointed if he in any way favors McCain.
A bit hypocritical Gary P?
January 17, 2008 - 08:54 ET by vrwc13"We are all tout ourselves
January 17, 2008 - 03:32 ET by Gary P Jackson
We are all tout ourselves as good, card carrying conservatives, and yet we have folks trashing a good man's religion. Sounds real conservative to me. Right! It actually sounds like a bunch of libs.
Guys every religion out there has something that is questionable. Look at Catholics. They strongly discourage (actually won't permit) Priests to marry. We all know why. Is that good or bad?
It's sad that instead of debating issues on a serious contender, you gotta trash his faith." Gary P
Huckabee is a liar, a good liar, but still a liar. He's a sneaky little $hit. Look how he's not released ads, but shown them to the media, thus getting free airtime. He's constantly bashing his opponents and yet denying it." Gary P
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calling someone a liar is
January 17, 2008 - 13:00 ET by Conservative Voicecalling someone a liar is not the same as attacking their religion...you on the other hand do think Romney is a liar based on what religion he is.
not a liar CV, just
January 17, 2008 - 13:04 ET by vrwc13not a liar CV, just mis-led.
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→ News Flash?
January 16, 2008 - 13:55 ET by Cool ArrowIs it "breaking news" that Republican power brokers can't stand Reverand Huckabee?
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It's amazing that people still fall for Huckabee's
January 16, 2008 - 13:56 ET by RJ"aw, shucks" delivery. Time after time, since he came to national attention, he's used his genial style to distract people enough that they don't feel the blade as he sticks it in.
Country folk have been using that trick forever. :^)
The Huckster needs to quit
January 16, 2008 - 13:57 ET by WiggyThe Huckster needs to quit trying to fool people into believing he is a conservative. HE IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE!
Uh huh
January 16, 2008 - 22:22 ET by MikeknaJI love these kinds of comments.
So according to the logic of you and your friends, one is not a conservative unless one is conservative across the board on every issue, be it fiscal, social, or security? Immigration? Etc?
So Guliani is not a conservative?
McCain is not a conservative?
Romney may or may not be a conservative, depending how whether you believe his changes on social policy are from the heart.
George W. Bush must not be a conservative, since the size of government has grown under his administration. His father too.
Apparently there aren't a whole lot of conservatives in the Republican party anymore.
That's sure going to make it tough to win a national election, if the majority of the conservative party is no longer conservative enough to be allowed inside anymore without being called out.
Bottom line: There's too much blacklisting going on in the GOP. I'm conservative across the board, but social issues are very important for me; specifically abortion. I would not, though, boycott a vote and start whining if Guliani was the nominee. All of the Guliani backers who were whining about the reluctance of social conservatives 6 months ago are hypocritical in how they are now whining about Huckabee and threatening to stay home if he wins. In the end, every candidate (except maybe Ron Paul) are infinately superior to any of the Dems who are running. They are ALL conservatives in comparision, even if some of them are more moderate at times on specific issues. This "you're not a conservative" name calling is just childish.
"The shadow proves the sunshine" - Switchfoot
http://www.xanga.com/mikeknaj
Huckabee better hope that the voters in SC don't use their brain
January 16, 2008 - 13:58 ET by AJSHOPEotherwise they may do some research and find out that he is just like Obama and Clinton except he doesn't agree with abortion.
Personally I think Mike Huckabee should run with Barack Obama and become Mirack Obuckabee. Or better yet, have Hillary join in and they can be Millrack Ocluckabee.
Okay I'm done, besides, I can't figure out a way to mesh John Edwards name in there. I was already pushing it with Millrack.
How about
January 16, 2008 - 15:27 ET by fonzie2178Jomillrack Ocluckwardsbee :-)
So much for the great white Christian hope....
January 16, 2008 - 13:58 ET by CooperHe just made a poor choice and used 8 words too many in that last line. Give him a break. Actually it could be kind of interesting if Hillary's right wing conspiriacy is pitted against his beltway conspiracy. May the better conspiracy win!
It is a conspiracy
January 16, 2008 - 14:16 ET by Lame CherryStories posted on Drudge just do not happen and Rush Limbaugh pounding stories featured on Drudge just do not happen.......people of similar American interests always work together........sometimes one can term them conspiracy as they conspire on an agenda good for America.............
and sometimes liberals conspire to promote Huckabee knowing he will be George McGovern toppled easily in 2008.
Huckabee had those Iowan church goers conspiring to elect him. McCain had those patrician liberals conspiring to elect him..........and Marco Wacko Kos conspired to screw up the Republican Michigan election and voila instead the GOP poured out and leveled the field with GOP Romney.
There is always conspiracy in politics as that is how things get done. Huckabee when he was benefitting from it liked it.........now that people who want to elect a Conservative President are in the political process are out to stop him........it is all of a sudden conspiracy.
But another reason why Huckabee should be abandoned as he does not understand politics and another reason Ron Paul should be abandoned as he thinks everything is a malevolent conspiracy from his own party.
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For this Christian...
January 16, 2008 - 14:33 ET by Clear thinkerAs a Christian, I can state categorically, that Huckabee is NOT the man he pretends to be. His record and his own words prove it.
However, neither Mitt, John, or Rudy will be getting my vote. My plan is this.... I will vote for a real conservative (Fred) in the primary. Even if he loses the primary, I will then write him in for the general election. The following day after voting in the general I will be quitting the GOP forever!
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Good thinking. Why not just
January 16, 2008 - 16:43 ET by Gary P JacksonGood thinking. Why not just take the next step and vote for a dim directly, because that's who'll win if people try this silliness.
There is no perfect candidate, period! Never has never will be. I'll work overtime to make sure McCain or Huck-a-boo-hoo is not the nominee, but I'll be damned if I'll let Clinton or Obama win by default!
Use your head people! Clinton and Obama are Socialists! They will wreck the country, and with it the world. At worst, one of our guys will do something with which we might not agree.
Think about that a while, then talk about "write-in" or third party votes!
Huckabee is just as
January 16, 2008 - 16:51 ET by AJSHOPEHuckabee is just as socialistic so it won't really matter who wins if he is the nominee. The only difference is that he's a Christian, so there will be a lot of people that won't vote for him because he talks about his faith too much (which is not me because I am a Christian) however and as I said before, he is just as socialistic as the Democrats, so it won't matter.
Oh, I agree. But as we move
January 16, 2008 - 17:10 ET by Gary P JacksonOh, I agree. But as we move on down the list of primaries, I think he is being marginalized. Doubt he'll do anything to back up his one win.
It's not the faith talk that gets me, it the fact I don't believe him. I've done business with his kind of preacher before. They will screw you in a heartbeat!
However, there's no way in hell I'm not gonna vote for the nominee, I DO NOT WANT A DIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
Perhaps we need to wander
January 16, 2008 - 17:51 ET by Dan The Man 2Perhaps we need to wander in the wilderness as the Israelites did strengthing their faith and resolve. Perhaps taht is just the thing our party needs as we wandered the wilderness while Bill Clinton was President. Apparently it grew a canditate that was up to the challenge of leadership. Maybe we can grow one with more cajones to stand up to the Dims and forget about working with them.
I am all for a GOP whitehouse but not at the expense of putting a Lib in sheeps clothing there.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
but not at the expense of putting a Lib in sheeps clothing there
January 16, 2008 - 17:55 ET by vrwc13"I am all for a GOP whitehouse but not at the expense of putting a Lib in sheeps clothing there."
Agree, and the following article explains it well...
http://www.worldnetd...
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Would an actual conservative ever get elected Gov. in ultraliberal MA? NBF (NB blogger)
pithy
January 16, 2008 - 18:31 ET by obxraypithy
Be a man Huckabee! What's
January 16, 2008 - 14:28 ET by Gary P JacksonBe a man Huckabee!
What's next, is this bozo gonna start crying? If this guy is gonna whine about a "conspiracy" 'cause he's getting his butt whipped, what would he do when he was threatened by America's enemies?
Go home Huck-a boo-hoo, your 5 minutes are up!
Full of Swiss cheese
January 16, 2008 - 14:31 ET by DyneHuck's one to talk about conspiracies against him when anyone who bothers to learn about him knows how buddy-buddy he is with the president of CFR- part of a much larger conspiracy.
"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." -Matthew 7:20
Just keep on talking there
January 16, 2008 - 14:45 ET by Airforce_5_OJust keep on talking there skippy about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. I seem to remember Hillary had the same problem.
agreed
January 16, 2008 - 15:15 ET by jitumaluHe shouldn't have used the term conspiracy obviously, but there is a very strong effort to derail his campaign.
I just wanted to give an account of the major tax increases and also give some context to it
Overall record
Obviously, he's not pure on taxes, but to say that he's a liberal is a wild accusation. I look at his unrelenting support of the fair tax and that tells me that he understands what conservativism is. If you dont know what the fair tax is go to http://www.fairtax.org
Another point:
Huckabee vs. Romney - Tax Burden as a Percent of Income
The following charts demonstrate the comparison between Huckabee and Romney with respect to tax burden as a percent of total income during their tenures as governor.
Arkanasas' Tax Burden as a Percent of Income
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/442.html
Using 1996 and 2007 for Huckabee, we see that the state+local tax burden for Arkansans went from 10.1% of income to 11.3% of income for an increase of 1.2% over 11 years (Governor Huckabee serving for 10 and a half of those), or an average of .11% per year.
Massachusetts' Tax Burden as a Percent of Income
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/460.html
Using 2002 and 2006 for Mitt Romney, we see that the state+local tax burden for Massachusettsians (?) went from 9.8% to 10.5% over 4 years for an increase of .7% over 4 years, or an average increase of .175% per year.
Conclusion:
Under Huckabee, increase of .11% per year.
Under Romney, increase of .175% per year.
Huckabee vs. Romney - Tax Burden in Actual Dollars (inflation adjusted to the year 2000)
http://www.pnreap.org/United_States/com ... ita_Income
(choose Arkansas then Massachusetts on the right, then click on "Generate & Display Output"; when the next screen appears, scroll down to the graph at the bottom: "Arkansas and Massachusetts: Per Capita Income, 1969-2006")
Arkansas' tax burden in actual dollars, inflation adjusted to the year 2000:
1996: $20,232 per capita income * 10.1% state+local tax burden = $2,043.43
2006: $24,804 per capita income * 11.1% state+local tax burden = $2,753.24
Increase over 10 years = $2,753.24 - $2,043.43 = $709.81
Increase per year = $70.98
Massachusetts' tax burden in actual dollars, inflation adjusted to the year 2000:
2002: $37,536 per capita income * 9.8% state+local tax burden = $3,678.53
2006: $40,336 per capita income * 10.5% state+local tax burden = $4,235.28
Increase over 4 years = $4,235.28 - $3,678.53 = $556.75
Increase per year = $139.19
Conclusion:
Under Huckabee, increase of $70.98 per year.
Under Romney, increase of $139.19 per year.
One more thing:
If anyone doubts me, here is the link to lookup the summary of state personal and disposable personal income. Just choose Arkansas, 1996 and 2006 and display. Lines 30 and 50 are undeniable. Huckabee put more money in Arkansans pockets period:
http://www.bea.gov/regional/spi/default ... =ancillary
Bishop Romney vs. Pastor Huckabee, and the winner is...
January 16, 2008 - 16:02 ET by vrwc13Jitumatu, looks like someone did their homework...
Any comments or rebuttals from the anyone-but-Huckster crowd?
Not such a bad record after all, looking at the FACTS!
Thank you jitumatu....
v
"…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." -the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore
"Faith doesn't just influence me. It really defines me. I don't have to wake up every day wondering what do I need to believe," Huckabee says in the ad. "Let us never sacrifice our principles for anybody's politics. Not now, not ever."
And the winner is nobody...
January 16, 2008 - 16:13 ET by AJSHOPEif they actually believe Huckabee is a conservative. Taxes and abortion aren't the only issues... however now that we know that Huckabee wants to pay for illegal immigrants' schooling we could conclude that we would have to raise taxes and since he isn't against raising taxes (per his record), we could then conclude that he would hike up taxes quite a bit since he is such a bleeding heart liber... I mean conservative, yeah... he's a Christian so he must be a conservative. Forget the records and the fact that everything he's been saying has sounded pretty much exactly like Obama and Clinton, he's a Christian, so he's a conservative.
For those of you in Rio Linda, I was being sarcastic with the last sentence.
I already did rebut this!!
January 17, 2008 - 14:01 ET by William PhelpsMaybe you forgot the last time I revealed the true Huckabee behind the mirage.
http://newsbusters.o...
As others said, a surplus isn't necessarily conservative or liberal. Its how that surplus is attained...Huckabee prefers tax hikes, as I showed you in the above link.
Give it up! Huckabee isn't conservative!!
Since I don't necessarily see all of the pieces, I'll refer to an organization that does it for me, "The Club for Growth." They are well known for being conservative and supporting conservative candidates, yet they don't support Huckabee. Further rebuttal can be found at Club for Growth.
Now let me know what you think, jitumatu and vrwc13
Club for Growth subsidized by Romney...
January 17, 2008 - 17:51 ET by vrwc13Your link is tainted...sorry...
http://www.mikehucka...
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*** All contributor information obtained from Federal Election Commission's electronic database at www.fec.gov.
a little dishonesty, vrwc?
January 17, 2008 - 17:56 ET by RJ"Club for Growth subsidized by Romney"
Your link doesn't say that at all. It only says that some of the same people who contributed to Romney also contributed to Club for Growth.
Do you have any better proof of your charge?
Nope just reporting the facts...
January 17, 2008 - 18:03 ET by vrwc13...and conneting the dots...
Question: What does $585,000 buy you?
Answer: It bought Mitt Romney backers a smear job against Mike Huckabee orchestrated by Beltway Insiders.
The Club for Growth has an affiliated 527 group, Club for Growth.net, running anti-Mike Huckabee ads in early primary states.
- At least $585,000 in contributions from Mitt Romney financial backers.
- Club for Growth has spent $750,000 against Governor Huckabee in Iowa, South Carolina and Michigan.
Here are donors that have donated both to Club for Growth.net* and Mitt Romney: (list follows, same link as above).
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...if it quacks like a duck...
So you were "stretching the truth"
January 17, 2008 - 18:08 ET by RJwhen you said Romney subsidized Club for Growth....and you have absolutely nothing to back up that charge. Why am I not surprized? You are a true Huckaphite.
(gotta go - I'll check in later for your empty and disingenuous denials)
now for RJ's definition of the day...
January 17, 2008 - 18:25 ET by vrwc13Subsidy: 3. a grant or contribution of money.
thus...
Subsidize:
1. to furnish or aid with a subsidy.
2. to purchase the assistance of by the payment of a subsidy.
3. to secure the cooperation of by bribery; buy over.
Apprently you were not homeschooled...
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Congratulations vrwc! Now you can read!
January 17, 2008 - 21:39 ET by RJNext year, maybe you'll learn about critical thinking....wait, on second thought, you'd better begin with reading comprehension.
Again, you accuse Romney of "subsidizing" Club for Growth, but you cannot show any evidence that he has done that.
So, here's your word for the day :^)
Lie:
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression
I'm curious --
January 16, 2008 - 17:14 ET by dervishis the "Tax burden as percent of income" analysis something you did, jitumalu, or did that come from the Huckabee campaign?
Thanks.
Huckabee propaganda for Economic Illiterates
January 16, 2008 - 21:25 ET by PopularTechOverly wordy posts like this obviously fool those in massive credit card debit who do not know how to control their own spending but anyone with an ounce of economic understanding can see through the lies.
1. The Arkansas Supreme Court did not order him to raise taxes. Implying it is utter propaganda, they ordered him to fund schools evenly. You can cut spending to do this.
2. You said it not me: "Some other taxes came about directly because of Mr. Huckabee’s efforts"
- He raised the gas tax (this obviously only hurt the rich since no one else drives)
- He enacted a nursing home tax
- In the end he up passing a $400 million tax increase package.
3. The rest is number spun propaganda. It is easy to leave the state with a large surplus when you raise taxes net over $500 million. You do understand what the word NET means right?
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK (Video) (1min)
Huckabee is a Net Tax Hiker of over $505 Million Dollars (Video) (1min)
A Taxing Endeavor (National Review Online)
Arkansas Taxes Up $642 Million Under Huckabee, Report Shows (CNSNews)
Huckabee's Fiscal Record (FactCheck.org)
Huckabee: The Biggest Big-Government Conservative (FOXNews)
Mike Huckabee's Arkansas Record (Club for Growth)
Mike Huckabee is a Liberal - Updated Huckabee White Paper (Club for Growth)
- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President
Tax Hike Mike
- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.
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Overly wordy posts like this obviously...
January 16, 2008 - 21:58 ET by vrwc13you mean like yours?
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Too many facts
January 16, 2008 - 22:13 ET by PopularTechI hate having so many facts. I really do, I could just post excessive propaganda and lies like he did.
Huckabee: Raising Taxes OK
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
It's a conspiracy.
January 16, 2008 - 15:52 ET by dscottIt's a conspiracy. Muhahaha <sarcasm or maybe not?>
Paranoids always conspire for their own downfall, just ask Hillary.
Ahh, but the strawberries, that's...
January 16, 2008 - 17:18 ET by dervishthat's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist...
Too much heat?
January 16, 2008 - 15:58 ET by pocomocoOMG! The last person we need in the White House is a ‘conspiracy theorist’.
I suggest Mr. H. get out of the kitchen.
As a spokesman for Ron Paul...
January 16, 2008 - 16:42 ET by okiehawk44I ask you. Who is this mysterious Mr. H. refered to here?
Mike Huckabee
January 16, 2008 - 16:56 ET by CellaA conspiracy to hammer the Huckanut's candidacy?
Where do I sign up?
True calling is in televangelism
January 16, 2008 - 16:57 ET by the_red_stateI want to know when The Huckster is going to pass on all of this to take up a new career in televangelism. He'd be a natural. Preaching and playing his bass guitar on the altar-stage, followed by the snake-handling. (Be careful, Huckster...I heard those cottonmouths can be pretty mean!). Oh, and don't forget to take up a couple of collections.
If Huckabee is correct and
January 16, 2008 - 17:38 ET by fitzfongIf Huckabee is correct and there's a "conspiracy" to take him out, I only have one thing to say...Good Riddance, Huckafraud!
I have a number....
January 16, 2008 - 17:40 ET by Swamprunner1-800-WAA-WAAA.
Huck's dead meat on a stick. Real conservatives don't cry.
"I support the right to bear arms. I also support arming bears".
→ Real Conservatives don't cry
January 16, 2008 - 22:22 ET by Cool Arrow"Romney Wept"
I ♣ My Seal
cool new arrow?
January 16, 2008 - 22:30 ET by♥ it
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→ Yup
January 16, 2008 - 22:34 ET by Cool ArrowIt's more of a "chilly dart" than a "cool arrow"
Takes less space
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micro
January 16, 2008 - 22:39 ET by→is the new macro ←
GoHunter08
I certainly hope there is a conspiracy against the Huckster
January 16, 2008 - 17:54 ET by SkepticalOneHuckabee's record is one of a man who claims to be conservative, but he has too much recorded behavior for anyone to believe that.
I hope there is a conspiracy against him! A conspiracy to tell the truth. His christian compassion that caused him to release as many prisoners from his state's prisons as possible believing that their conversion was real not opportunistic. Even to the point of writing a letter to Wayne Dumond wishing him well. A man who had raped and killed before, was released because Mike Huckabee thought he got too light a sentence for raping a woman. The whole sordid tale of Huckabee's involvement in getting Wayne Dumond released from prison is here in this article: Arkansas Times
His firing the state police officer investigating his son's killing of a dog. Then claiming that the dog had mange so the boy was putting it out it's misery by beating and hanging the dog. There are a lot of things about the Huckster that when looked at critically he falls very short of even being a crappy conservative. His employing identity politics is part of his schtick.
His snide, nasty comments about his opponents. His slick appearances on the entertainment shows where he isn't questioned about his record or his plans. The man is a charlatan.
Huckabee: 'I Don't Want to
January 16, 2008 - 20:10 ET by stratmanHuckabee: 'I Don't Want to Use the Word Conspiracy, But...'
Huckabee right before he shows his negative campaign ads to reporters he assembled at a special meeting (paraphrased): "I'm not going to air the negative campaign ads my people have made on local tv, but..."
It's like deja vu all over again.
Huckabee sure likes to float a big "but" to the media.
Manipulative, transparent, whiney and creepy, and yet, he's still more genuine than Hillary.
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
Bill Clinton Redux
January 16, 2008 - 20:54 ET by donsalesEverything he says and does is built around what worked for the Clintons.....liberal ideas, liberal legislation, liberal everything and this guy calls himself a conservative????????
He is a complete scam artist.....sound like anybody we've known in the past folks??????
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
Clinton Lite.
January 16, 2008 - 21:50 ET by Gary P JacksonClinton Lite.
Whacky water?...
January 16, 2008 - 22:27 ET by Clear thinkerArkansas is known for it's pure spring water. Now I'm not so sure, cause it sure seems like the water in that state is spiked with something.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Should we even begin to
January 16, 2008 - 22:16 ET by needforcalmShould we even begin to discuss the Hucksters record on communtations? Over 1000 convicted criminals released because they knew a friend of his or supposedly was "born again". He never has a good response for that. And he never really answers the Dumond question about pressuring the parole board for his release. The guy before me had it right...Clinton Lite
This Just In:
January 16, 2008 - 22:16 ET by BarkerHuckabee has proposed moving the Republican Convention to Guyana, to get away from "them".
Developing.........
Barker, I have a much better idea. Huckabee moves to Guyana...
January 17, 2008 - 00:31 ET by R D HelmHuckabee moves to Guyana to get away from "us."
Works for me. I'll even volunteer my enthusiastic assistance in helping him pack.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
→ Huckabee to Guayana
January 17, 2008 - 00:42 ET by Cool ArrowAnd Romney is moving with his followers to South Africa.
Ironically Jonestown, 1978. Same year Reverand Romney's Church decided African Americans were good enough to be priests.
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Cool,
January 17, 2008 - 00:48 ET by R D HelmI trust that, upon arrival, they will not partake of the, ahh, kool-aid.
Dangerous, that would be.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
We are all tout ourselves
January 17, 2008 - 03:32 ET by Gary P JacksonWe are all tout ourselves as good, card carrying conservatives, and yet we have folks trashing a good man's religion. Sounds real conservative to me. Right! It actually sounds like a bunch of libs.
Guys every religion out there has something that is questionable. Look at Catholics. They strongly discourage (actually won't permit) Priests to marry. We all know why. Is that good or bad?
It's sad that instead of debating issues on a serious contender, you gotta trash his faith.
Good God Man
January 17, 2008 - 12:37 ET by BarkerLighten up.
And stop trashing Conservatives.
Misplaced criticizm
January 17, 2008 - 12:48 ET by RJBarker, what you began as a light hearted post was derailed by Cool Arrow when he played the racism card. If you want someone to lighten up, that's where your criticizm should be directed.
RJ
January 17, 2008 - 13:18 ET by BarkerUnderstood.
God bless you all. :^)
BTW, following Cool's post
January 17, 2008 - 13:36 ET by tracheostomyBTW, following Cool's post I noticed you forgot to call him a bigot RJ. Don't forget. You're way behind on your "bigot quota" & you got orders to fill.
:clap clap:
Hop to it!
>;^)
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
Geez, trach
January 17, 2008 - 13:44 ET by RJI haven't heard from you and your peculiar brand of inanity for so long, I was hoping your new medication was proving effective. Obviously not. :^)
Apologies. I forgot my
January 17, 2008 - 13:48 ET by tracheostomyApologies. I forgot my assigned task was "stalking you". I just had so many better things to do than feed your "lookit me" ego.
I'll try harder next time. . .tomorrow maybe. . .if there isn't something better on TV.
Oh yeah, you forgot to say "bigot" again. :^)
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
See?
January 17, 2008 - 13:54 ET by RJYour "peculiar inanities" are back on display. How did you get out of the Woodshed? :^)
P.S. Say some more bigoted things and I'll be happy to oblige you.
If he thinks there's a
January 17, 2008 - 14:00 ET by Jack BauerIf he thinks there's a conspiracy now, he ain't seen nuthin' if he actually wins the Republican nom.