Mike Huckabee might want to "revise and extend" the remarks of his Iowa campaign manager. Appearing on this evening's Tucker on MSNBC, Bob Vander Plaats stated that "we're fighting a radical religion in Islam" and that "the war on terror is a theological war."
View video here.
TUCKER CARLSON: What about national security? He obviously as a governor of Arkansas he obviously doesn't have national security credentials. The question has arisen recently about who is advising him on national security matters. Who is advising him on national security matters?
BOB VANDER PLAATS: Well I think Governor Huckabee has a lot of resources that he goes to on national security matters. Here's a guy, a former pastor, who understands a theological nature of this war as we're fighting a radical religion in Islam. I think he's most prepared to lead this country in that dynamic. But he has a definitely a seasoned tenure of people advising him on foreign relation matters.
CARLSON: Well just to clarify, how does his experience as a pastor equip him to deal with the war on terror?
PLAATS: Well, I think what it is, the war on terror is obviously, it's a theological war. We have a radical Islamic group, so we believe that a guy with the training of a pastor understands the theological nature of the war. That also makes him very well-prepared in regards to this war on terror.
Vander Plaats' statement runs counter to the way that President Bush and virtually all other national figures have been very careful to say that we are not fighting a war against Islam. In fairness to Vander Plaats and Huckabee, Vander Plaats [who for a time was in the 2006 Iowa GOP gubernatorial primary race] endorsed Huckabee almost a year ago when few in Iowa were clamoring to support him. He is probably not accustomed to the glare of the national spotlight.
Tucker was surely just expecting him to rattle off a couple names as Huckabee himself had done in a TV appearance this morning, mentioning that Frank Gaffney and Richard Haas among others are advising him on foreign policy. Also, after stating that "we're fighting a radical religion in Islam," which seemed to take in the entire religion, Vander Plaats did later refine his statement, referring to "a radical Islamic group."
Even so, Vander Plaats's remarks do reflect the kind of problems that a candidate can encounter when in a short period he goes from dark horse to front runner.
Be looking for a "clarification" from the Huckabee camp.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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Damage control! Calling
December 19, 2007 - 19:02 ET by Chris NormanDamage control! Calling damage control!
this guy also should have
December 19, 2007 - 19:20 ET by TruthMongerthis guy also should have held up a sign like "DON'T VOTE FOR HUCKABEE WHATEVER YOU DO, PLEASE - WE ARE INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS RELIGIOUS WHACKOS - DO YOU REALLY WANT OUR FINGERS ON THE AMERICAN ICBM BUTTON, FOR PETE'S SAKE?!?!?!?"
very interesting campaign strategery from the hucksters today...
LOL. Amazing, isn't it?
December 19, 2007 - 19:28 ET by Chris NormanLOL. Amazing, isn't it?
BA in Religion
December 19, 2007 - 20:18 ET by Daniel BakerWhat classes did he actually take about Islam?
Eight Years in the Senate does not qualify you to be President. Your lack of leadership and management skills shows in your campaigns. Please stay out of the Whitehouse Hillary Clinton or Fred Thompson
Uh, that was rhetorical,
December 19, 2007 - 20:22 ET by Chris NormanUh, that was rhetorical, wasn't it, and directed at anyone? Cause I sure as hell don't know.
Yeah I guess anybody who
December 19, 2007 - 21:53 ET by KeithYeah I guess anybody who REALLY believes the bible is a "whacko" to you bud. But you're the dummy not them because JESUS IS GOD. HUCK'S CAMPAIGN GUY is RIGHT! All of you KOOL AID DRINKERS who bought the BUSH bullcrap about a 'religion of Peace" READ EM AND WEEP.
"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)
"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)
"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)
"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how could I ever say that to which I have no right?" (Surah 5:114-)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
The reason you all have trouble when someone tells the truth about Islam is you think everyone's like you. Other people in other parts of the world ACTUALLY BELIEVE the words of THEIR "holy " book, unlike most of you. And spare me the hollow cries about how much you follow the bible, If you did, you'd be baptized properly! And when someone like myself points out how the catholic church DECEIVED you regarding as paramount an issue as BAPTISM, you'd run to the nearest Pentecostal Church that would baptize you according to the Bible, Acts 2:38. But you don't, secure in your lukewarm apathy you drag your stupid CHRISTMAS TREE into the house like a HEATHEN. Jeremiah 10:2-5
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
And even when someone takes the time to SHOW you how GOD feels about such a heathen display, most of you will call me a ZEALOT and drag your stupid tree into your house! YEAH, you believe alright! HA.
Well, not everyone is so "cavalier" about their faith as you are, heathens! LOL. Ever wonder why no "moderate" Muslims speak out when something goes BOOM? Because there are no MODERATE muslims, there are practicing muslims and apostates. That's it. Islam doesn't recognize the "CAFETERIA MUSLIM". The dirty truth which GWB never told you is that the Muslims that are blowing our asses up ARE the GOOD MUSLIMS! They are the ones who are FOLLOWING the dictates of their "faith"! That's why NO AMERICAN soldier should EVER be sacrificed to bring "democracy" to savages.
YOU can't win a war if you don't know your enemy and the ENEMY is ISLAM.
Keith...
December 19, 2007 - 22:00 ET by Clear thinkerGeeeez, take a valium or something will ya?
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Ct... Asking keith to
December 19, 2007 - 22:05 ET by bigtimerCt...
Asking keith to calm down is like asking the leftists to see the light.
Forget about it....lol.
bt...
December 19, 2007 - 22:10 ET by Clear thinkerWe should pray for Keith. The poor guy is suffering from something.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Oooops
December 19, 2007 - 22:11 ET by Clear thinkerRush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Are you too stupid to drop
December 19, 2007 - 22:13 ET by KeithAre you too stupid to drop the ad hominem attacks and deal with the truth that I laboriously reprinted for you? As I said, Muslims actually believe their book, unlike most of you. And ALL THAT AND MORE is what their book REALLY says about how they feel about YOU.
Keith... Calm down, don't
December 19, 2007 - 22:17 ET by bigtimerKeith...
Calm down, don't scream with bold text at everyone...and most of all quit calling all of us stupid and such to put it nicely....
You may be surprised at how many responses you get that will bother to read you in the first place....
I for one see your screaming and rambling.... quit reading half of all your posts at times even if you are making a good point.
Just a thought.
Bro, I think the SCREAMING
December 19, 2007 - 22:26 ET by KeithBro, I think the SCREAMING is in the way you chose to read it. I was just highlighting what I said, nevertheless if it bothers you, I'll take it under advisement! See, no bold!
Kieth...Much
December 19, 2007 - 22:31 ET by bigtimerKeith...
Much better...sometimes I think I read good points from you so it would do you well to quit all the seeming hatred at all here...post your comments and go back and forth with us...as it should be.
I am a gal by the way....not a bro.
Could of sworn you knew that...lol.
bt...
December 19, 2007 - 22:28 ET by Clear thinkerHe called you a Bro. You wanna tell him or should I?
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
That was awesome Keith!
December 19, 2007 - 22:06 ET by Daniel BakerI have met some awesome Muslim Apostates in my life. They still have some left over morals and family commitment, but they didn't want to kill me
And THEY in turn would be
December 19, 2007 - 22:10 ET by KeithAnd THEY in turn would be killed by 98% of their brethren for their allegiance with YOU. Didn't you just read the story about the Muslim who murdered his own daughter because she wouldn't wear a friggin HEAD SCARF? GEEZ you liberals are gay.
LOL....
December 19, 2007 - 22:14 ET by Clear thinkerThat's the first time I was ever called a liberal. Lolololol!
Thanks for the laugh Keith!
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Ct... Massive confusion
December 19, 2007 - 22:19 ET by bigtimerCt...
Massive confusion comes to mind...if you get my drift....
CT my post that you are
December 19, 2007 - 22:28 ET by KeithCT my post that you are responding to was answering someone named Daniel, I know that you are not a liberal.
Keith I might of sounded sarcastic, but I agree about
December 19, 2007 - 22:21 ET by Daniel Bakerapostate muslims and true muslims.
Democracy could work in Iraq only if it was able to shut down mosques that abused or killed someone for converting from Islam or being Christian. That would be awesome if the Imams could be traced back and be executed for inciting violence by their terrorist youths.
Too bad Iraq isn't set up that way, so you are right we should stop spending money and the best youth we have on the corrupt place.
Iraqi lessons...
December 19, 2007 - 22:24 ET by Clear thinkerDon't you consider showing the Iraqi's that there is another way, the Christian thing to do?
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
I believe that the
December 19, 2007 - 22:31 ET by KeithI believe that the Christians that were BEHEADED were trying to do just that CT, they were trying to show them a "better way". Trouble is they ran up against people who BELIEVE all that stuff I printed from the Koran!
So we should have just quit?
December 19, 2007 - 22:58 ET by Clear thinkerLet the bad guys run us off because of beheadings, or stand our ground and show them that Christians can fight back too?
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
It's the Christian thing for GWB to do since he gave his word
December 19, 2007 - 22:32 ET by Daniel BakerThe rest of us are not under the same promise. We can show them the other way by being an example here in America, but not having to devote our lives to them there.
But America isn't exactly a beacon of light with the obscene exports we have.
My bad Daniel, I missed the
December 19, 2007 - 22:29 ET by KeithMy bad Daniel, I missed the sarcasm. Sorry about the "liberal" crack in that case. :}
There are alot of things the
December 20, 2007 - 02:45 ET by well99There are alot of things the msm wont put out about over there.
http://www.michaelyo...
I also read about muslims protecting christian neighbors but no link.Been awhile
Keith, thanks for the info
December 20, 2007 - 06:34 ET by NortoKeith, thanks for the info and Amen. We are among the Christmas tree folks, but we know He is the reason for the celebration whenever He was born. October or some such?
We just know he was born, lived and died for our sins and He is alive. Enjoy
I heard this today while
December 19, 2007 - 19:08 ET by bigtimerI heard this today while busy and came into the living room to see who the person was speaking for Huckabee...that is how surprised I was at this, plus he spoke the plain and simple truth...something the other politicians including Huck ought to try instead of vote getting, political correctness and fear.
Excellent.
Honesty is never defended.
December 19, 2007 - 19:09 ET by Chris NormanHonesty is never defended. We can expect a "clarification" asap.
Or the start of the...
December 19, 2007 - 19:27 ET by Clear thinker21st Century's version of the Crusades.
Huckabee talking to a crowd when suddenly out of the back someone yells "shut the Huck up!"
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
How can politicians be so
December 19, 2007 - 19:31 ET by Chris NormanHow can politicians be so impolitic? Was he being paid by the Dems?
Mark, why do you think the
December 19, 2007 - 19:32 ET by balboaMark, why do you think the Huckabee campaign will not to refine these comments? Isn't this what the right has been saying?
"...why do you think the
December 19, 2007 - 19:34 ET by Chris Norman"...why do you think the Huckabee campaign will not to refine these comments?"
?
You have to be joking.
December 19, 2007 - 19:36 ET by Mark FinkelsteinYou have to be joking. Pres. Bush has been very careful to say just the opposite. He invariably praises Islam and identifies our enemy as just one small offshoot.
Mark, wasn't he just as
December 19, 2007 - 19:38 ET by Chris NormanMark, wasn't he just as careful not to link 9/11 with Iraq, yet the Left continues to say he did?
My bad, I meant the many on
December 19, 2007 - 19:45 ET by balboaMy bad, I meant the many on this board who would be behind that statement wholeheartedly.
Oh, now you've done it.
December 19, 2007 - 19:48 ET by Chris NormanOh, now you've done it. Prepare yourself...
Really, really, prepared
December 19, 2007 - 19:50 ET by bigtimerReally, really, prepared boa....
Got all your survival gear handy?
Didn't you just say that
December 19, 2007 - 20:03 ET by balboaDidn't you just say that this guy "spoke the plain and simple truth"?
boa... Yes I did... I
December 19, 2007 - 20:07 ET by bigtimerboa...
Yes I did...
I was just joking with ya anyway...guess you couldn't tell.
Oh...whoops.
December 19, 2007 - 20:22 ET by balboaOh...whoops.
BALBOA YOU
December 19, 2007 - 19:51 ET by TruthMongerBALBOA YOU SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding
I agree with this guy yes
As a US pres I would never say such a thing
I would be serving a different master there, you see...
And the old saying is you can't serve two masters...
but that's another story...
BUSH IS A LIAR . READ ALL
December 19, 2007 - 21:58 ET by KeithBUSH IS A LIAR . READ ALL THE QUOTES FROM HALF THE DANGED BOOK OF THEIRS WOULD YA? I posted just a snippet of the thousands of verses that should show anyone with his head NOT up his ASS the truth about Islam. Read up towards the beginning of the thread and don't say you weren't told.
Scary thought
December 19, 2007 - 19:52 ET by KC MulvilleI'm an ex-Jesuit. I'll stack my theology training up against almost anyone. Does that make me "qualified" to fight a war on terror?
I can't get my kids to go to bed on time.
Uh....yes.
December 19, 2007 - 20:00 ET by c5thenI don't know if you are qualified to "fight" it but you are certaintly orders of magnitude more qualified to understand the underlying concepts, premises and why it even exists than the vast majority of the candidates, Democrat or Republican.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Well thank you
December 19, 2007 - 20:09 ET by KC MulvilleI'm honored.
LOL
December 19, 2007 - 20:31 ET by well99Nicely put.
If your not BAPTIZED IN
December 19, 2007 - 22:06 ET by KeithIf your not BAPTIZED IN JESUS' NAME like everyone else in the bible what good is your "theological training"? And what seminary did Paul or anyone with REAL gifts of the Spirit have to go to? Answer none. The Holy Ghost provides all knowledge something some dummy with a pointer at the head of a "seminary" is unable to do. Acts 2:38 have you obeyed this, oh, "theological one"? I thought not.
And before some whining baby tries to get me banned for speaking the truth, the guy SAID he'd stack his "theological training " up against anyones'. Well, I'm "anyone" and I gave him a test. See, you aren't saved without being born again and you CAN'T be "born again" if you haven't been born of the water and of the spirit in JESUS' NAME, not the empty titles of the "father son and holy ghost" which the Jesuits are known to errantly use.
That SAID you ARE infinitely more qualified to understand the nature of Good and evil than a democrat, since their entire philosophy of baby killing and sodomy comes from satan.
Keith, I respectfully ask
December 19, 2007 - 22:06 ET by Mark FinkelsteinKeith, I respectfully ask people to confine comments to the issue at hand. If you'd like to conduct a theological debate, please take it elsewhere.
Then perhaps you should ask
December 19, 2007 - 22:36 ET by KeithThen perhaps you should ask people not to brag about their theological agility if they don't want to be confronted with the truth. I have no problem only talking about politics but when someone says something "theological" well, confronting false biblical teaching happens to be my mission in life. Sorry if this offended you. Don't worry, I will restrain myself in the future as long as others do the same.
Keith... Did you not
December 19, 2007 - 22:42 ET by bigtimerKeith...
Did you not understand the irony of KC's post?
He said he couldn't even get his kids to bed on time...he does not brag...ever IMHO.
Maybe you should re-read the post and think about it all.
Just my two cents...I'm done.
Maybe we should watch the
December 20, 2007 - 06:42 ET by NortoMaybe we should watch the potty mouth stuff too, as Believers, I mean. I promise not to use cBS or pBS any more as well.
I brush with soap twice a day(Miracle II) you would think I would have a less potty mouth as my dentist says I have the cleanest mouth he has ever seen! Well, dah why wouldn't everyone use soap?!
Ah, yes, the "truth."
December 19, 2007 - 22:06 ET by balboaAh, yes, the "truth."
OK
December 19, 2007 - 22:16 ET by KC MulvilleI was just hoping for some advice to get the kids to bed on time ...
This is a theological war
December 19, 2007 - 19:54 ET by LilyPearlThis is a theological war at the heart. It, however, not only must be fought prayerfully through evangelizing Muslims with the truth of Jesus Christ, but we also must fight it militarily as we are doing because they do want to kill us. I love President Bush, but it really galls me when he says that Christians and Muslims worship the same God--in fact, we do not.
Christianity is based on God sending His Son, Jesus, to atone for the sins of mankind (John 3:16-17).
Romans 3:23: "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus."
Romans 5:10: "For if when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."
Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
Surah 23 102, "Then those whose balance (of good deeds) is heavy -- they will attain salvation. . ."
The Bible tells us in Galatians 2:16 that it is not by works or any good deeds that we obtain Salvation. ". . .but by the faith of Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ and not by the works of the law. . ."
Another important distinction is that throughout the Quran, the teachings are to destroy all others outside of Islam in the name of Allah. In comparison, the Christian God is a god of love. Jesus tells us in Luke 6:27-28: "But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you and pray for them which despitefully use you." In addition, the Muslims despise Jews, but the Christian Bible says that the Jews are the apple of God's eye and that whoever blesses her will be blessed and whoever curses her will be cursed. (Genesis 12:2-3)
These are fundamental distinctions! The Muslim god and the Christian God are not the same.
I also take comfort in the
December 19, 2007 - 19:57 ET by TruthMongerI also take comfort in the fact the God has already won the whole damn thing for us...
It's all over but the shouting
God wins in the end!
December 19, 2007 - 21:24 ET by Daniel BakerShouldn't that comfort make you reject the war?
Cromwell said it best:
December 19, 2007 - 21:32 ET by dervish"Put your trust in God, but mind to keep your powder dry."
Except the junk about the
December 19, 2007 - 22:08 ET by KeithExcept the junk about the "trinity" which doesn't exist since JESUS IS ALL OF GOD not a part or a "slice", (COL 2:8,9) you've got it right!
Islam - the religion of peace
December 19, 2007 - 20:07 ET by yruymi9.123: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.
4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
9.29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
There's a lot more of this peace to found in the Holy Book of Islam. Koran, Quran, no matter how one spells it, it means bloodshed. World War III will be an Islamic v Non-Islamic war. From here, it appears inevitable.
I think that the Huckabee
December 19, 2007 - 20:19 ET by USA4freedomI think that the Huckabee campaign will start to slide, if so who will get the people leaving?
I would like to see Fred make a better run.
I think that some of the candidates should look at some of the positions of Ron Paul. (No I’m not a fan) But.. a lot of his ideas are close to Reagan. I think that a large part of America is looking for a more Libertarian view. Small taxes, small spending, fence. Etc. We are tired of Democrat lite..
Its sad that for the worlds greatest country to have so few good choices.
I think that I am down to Mitt or Fred. I wish Hunter would do better.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
USA, At this point, I'm
December 19, 2007 - 20:24 ET by Chris NormanUSA,
At this point, I'm looking at all these guys, and beginning to shake my head in concern.
Allow me to suggest...
December 19, 2007 - 20:28 ET by c5thenThe day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Thanks Chris
December 20, 2007 - 11:40 ET by acumenWhew! Thanks Chris. I'm glad it's not just me. Seems like I have been struggling with this same dilemma every election year since Reagan left office.
It appears all we have this cycle are Republican candidates that try to please everyone (mostly themselves) and end up pleasing none (including themselves). Time for candidates to start talking once again about what makes America great instead of how great they are.
Here is my prediction - Ron Paul will lose the Repub nomination, go Independent, which will ensure another Clinton in the White House. Sound familiar? I take no pleasure in that doomsday scenario but if that's the way it goes down, Americans have no one to blame but themselves. It costs a lot to feed an obsession with nuts.....but some never get their fill.
USA
December 19, 2007 - 20:26 ET bythen vote for and support Hunter
"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger
Evening
December 19, 2007 - 20:29 ET by bigtimerEvening USA...
Thompson/Hunter!
Unfortunately Hunter doesn't have the $$$ and the msm look at most congressmen as insignificant most of the time....of course we have to leave Paul out here with the attention he has gotten because of his money donations from both sides of the extremists from what I gather about his donations.
I guess we could do worse
December 19, 2007 - 21:14 ET by USA4freedomI guess we could do worse then that.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Well, we don’t have 2
December 19, 2007 - 21:18 ET by USA4freedomWell, we don’t have 2 junior Senators running, One a Clinton, then OB and a trial lawyer as well.
Wow what a pack of losers.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
USA4...
December 19, 2007 - 21:17 ET by Clear thinkerI for one am tired of this idea that Fred is not running like he should. My suggestion to one and all is to go to Freds official website once a day and see what he's doing. http://www.fred08.com/
Keep in mind that it's the liberal MSM that wants you to beleive that Fred is lazy and not in it to win it. They know he would be the toughest opponent for any of the Democrat top tier candidates. A vote for Fred will be a vote against the liberal MSM!
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
I am worried, I don’t
December 19, 2007 - 21:47 ET by USA4freedomI am worried, I don’t want another RINO, on the other hand I dam sure don’t want a Democrat!
That is what worries me about Mitt, I would feel a lot more comfortable if he held his beliefs his whole life.
I look at Huckabee past and don’t like what I see. So to me, Fred looks the best.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
USA... Fred's the Man!
December 19, 2007 - 21:50 ET by bigtimerUSA...
Fred's the Man!
I am worried, I don’t
December 19, 2007 - 22:00 ET by USA4freedomI am worried, I don’t want another RINO, on the other hand I dam sure don’t want aDemocrat!
That is what worries me about Mitt, I would feel a lot morecomfortable if he held his beliefs his whole life.
I look at Huckabee past and don’t like what I see. So to me,Fred looks the best.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
We are in a religous
December 19, 2007 - 21:08 ET by MidAmericaWe are in a religous war. This is an enemy that seeks to destroy us from the inside. In Europe they are going to breed their way to political control. Because we have such a large population their hope here is to ally themselves with the American left who also hate America. This is why the leftists have made such an effort to remove Christianity and our traditional history away from our children so that the next generation will not understand what they are losing. Just like in Europe.
Political correctness is their main weapon. We are faced with a mortal enemy and we aren't even allowed to call them an enemy.
Watching all this is the Chinese. They can see we are unable to defend ourselves from this kind of attack. When the West is sufficiently weakened they will make their move. They won't have any problem dealing with the Islamic Radicals.
MidA...I agree with all
December 19, 2007 - 21:12 ET by bigtimerMidA...
I agree with all of your post....
That is and has been my worry...along with the Chinese, is Russia IMO as I have posted before and asked others about.
Glad to see I am not alone.
It is past pathetic when this country is afraid to call a spade a spade when it comes to this religious war with the radical muslims.
The white Russians have
December 19, 2007 - 21:39 ET by MidAmericaThe white Russians have the same problem as the rest of Europe, their numbers are shrinking. I suspect Putin has looked ahead and has seen that for Russia to remain Russia it cannot be democratic. If the same trends continue in Europe they will eventually be faced with the same stark choices, eliminate democracy or dissappear into the history books.
The only ones who have
December 19, 2007 - 21:12 ET by Right2thePointThe only ones who have consistently called this a religious war is the guys on the other side in the AQ and Taliban.
The word "crusader" is often used in their shouting.
I haven't noted any fatawa equivalents on any other major religions behalf such as from the Pope or anyone else.
Yep a Religous War on the part of Hawkish Conservatives
December 19, 2007 - 21:20 ET by Daniel BakerA lot of conservatives worship the might of the US military. We spend a religious amount of money on this war, and the tools of destruction.
DB... I am quite sure I
December 19, 2007 - 21:26 ET by bigtimerDB...
I am quite sure I am wasting my time here since you never seem to reply after you post and someone else does to you, like I did earlier tonight and have in the past...but may I ask who are you leaning or voting towards?
bt...
December 19, 2007 - 21:32 ET by Clear thinkerHe has been very open in his support for MITT.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Sorry that is private, but it would be nice to have a republican
December 19, 2007 - 21:39 ET by Daniel Bakeragainst the war besides Ron Paul
Dear Mrs Clinton and Fred Thompson
Eight Years in the Senate does not qualify you to be President. Your lack of leadership and executive experience shows in your campaigns. Pretending to be in a presidential cabinet doesn't count. Please go home!
Thanks Ct and DB... All I
December 19, 2007 - 21:41 ET by bigtimerThanks Ct and DB...
All I wanted to know.
Daniel...
December 19, 2007 - 21:51 ET by Clear thinkerIt's not exactly private....
Romney is a Christian
August 30, 2007 - 00:06 ET by Daniel Baker
Romney recognizes Jesus as his Savior, and has lived a life in service to others. He headed congregations of Christians and has gone door to door teaching that only through Christ could man be saved.
The liberal media wants to start a fight about Romney's beliefs among the right. They want to make us look hypocritical in our religous bigotry.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Why correct it?
December 19, 2007 - 21:22 ET by MindwerkzCould someone explain to me how this is not a religious war that cannot be won because the US is attempting to "take the high road" and wont admit it? Im not saying it is christianity vs islam, but I am definatly saying it is islam vs all who arnt islam. That is their doctrine, kill all who arnt us.
Other than it not being politically correct, how is he wrong?
IT is Not a Theological war it is a BEHAVIORAL WAR
December 19, 2007 - 21:30 ET by Daniel BakerWe have to let bigoted groups like Islam exist because of our freedom of religion and speech, but when this speech leads to behavior then we act.
Behind the behavior is....
December 19, 2007 - 21:35 ET by c5thenTheology.
Islam says that anyone who won't convert to Islam must be killed.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Daniel...
December 19, 2007 - 21:37 ET by Clear thinkerHoly cow, you sure hate Muslims don't you?
Not all Muslims want us dead, and some are even willing to fight with us. It's the extremist dirt bags you should direct your hate towards. You know, the ones that want to cut our throats.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Looks like C5then must have one upped me on the hate meter
December 19, 2007 - 21:56 ET by Daniel Bakeron the hate meter that you keep
Dear Mrs Clinton and Fred Thompson
Eight Years in the Senate does not qualify you to be President. Your lack of leadership and executive experience shows in your campaigns. Pretending to be in a presidential cabinet doesn't count. Please go home!</
NOTE TO ALL
December 19, 2007 - 22:22 ET by Mark FinkelsteinKindly desist from the theological arguments on this thread, now.
At this point...
December 19, 2007 - 22:26 ET by Clear thinkerI will gladly refrain.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
No clarification needed
December 19, 2007 - 22:48 ET by planetrepublican"...who understands a theological nature of this war as we're fighting a radical religion in Islam."
Well if and when we get a nuke up our asses placed there by some Islamo-whack-job and one or more of our cities gets destroyed and radioactive with a few hundred thousand dead Americans, I wonder how long you guys will be so patient with anything Muslim, hmmm? Bush has kept the real killers under the rocks but once he goes and we get some pansy fairy in there how long do you think it will take the jihadists to get over here and start to seriously kill us? I don't give a crap if MOST Muslims are not terrorists, the fact is that MOST terrorists are Muslim. And from my perspective they are better at killing us than we are at defending ourselves. You ought to thank God that our president has the balls to kill them back. So far I like what I am hearing from Huck and I don't care if his name is Huck Finn, as long he protects me and mine, that's fine by me.
Huckabee = moron
December 20, 2007 - 00:03 ET by Missouri ConservativeI guess I'll overlook Huck insulting Bush at a time when the surge strategy is working, because Huck is a former pastor, and as such is more qualified to fight global terrorism.
What a joke this guy is.
Does anybody else get the sense that Huckabee is an amalgamation of Jimmy Carter, John Edwards, and Jerry Falwell?
"women and minorities hardest hit"
Mike Huckabee = Worst GOP Candidate
December 20, 2007 - 10:09 ET by PopularTechSorry but if the evangelicals can post pages of bible versus, than I can post links to news sources exposing the Huckster:
Huckabee on Taxes (Video) (1min)
Ann Coulter: “Huckabee is the Republican Jimmy Carter” (Video) (4min)
Another Man From Hope. Who is Mike Huckabee? (The Wall Street Journal)
Christian conservatives: Beware of Huckabee (WorldNetDaily)
Mike Huckabee is far from being Reagan's heir (The Wall Street Journal)
The Huckabee Hustle (American Thinker)
The False Conservative (Robert Novak, Townhall)
There’s a Huckabee Born Every Minute (Ann Coulter, Human Events)
"I guess Huckabee is one of those pro-sodomy, pro-gay marriage, pro-evolution evangelical Christians" - Ann Coulter
Background:
Age: 52
Education:
- Ordained to ministry Southern Baptist Convention, 1974
- B.A. Religion, Ouachita Baptist University, 1976
Crime and Punishment:
Mike Huckabee's Clemency Record Is Under Scrutiny (FOXNews)
Why parole a monster like Green?
Mother of Dumond Victim: "If not for Huckabee, she’d be here for Christmas" (Video) (1min)
Ethics:
NBC Investigates Huckabee's Ethical Shortcomings (Video) (2min)
A Son’s Past Deeds (Dog Torture) Come Back To Bite Huckabee (Newsweek)
Huck's gift-givers ended up in state posts (Politico)
Huckabee Signed '98 Ad Urging Women to 'Graciously Submit' to Husbands
Education:
Huckabee on Education: No to Vouchers, Let Government Fix It (Standard Newswire)
Fiscal Record:
Huckabee's Fiscal Record
Huckabee: The Biggest Big-Government Conservative (FOXNews)
Mike Huckabee is a Liberal (Club for Growth)
Updated Huckabee White Paper (Club for Growth)
- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President
Tax Hike Mike
- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.
Foreign Policy:
Huckabee: Gitmo Not In America's Best Interests (Video) (1min)
Mike Huckabee Criticizes Bush Administration for 'Bunker Mentality' on Iraq (FOXNews)
The Holiday Inn Express Candidate (National Review Online)
The Problem With Pastor Mike (National Review Online)
Global Warming:
Huckabee is the only Republican candidate to support the economy crippling Cap and Trade CO2 Legislation, Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) Regulation and Renewable Energy Standards
Illegal Immigration:
Laura Ingraham: Huckabee Is A "Big Loser" On Immigration (Audio) (5min)
Huckabee Supported Scholarships for Illegal Aliens (Video) (5min)
Fact Checker: Pinocchios for Huckabee on Illegals (Washington Post)
Huckabee aid plan for illegal aliens draws 'venom, anger' (Arkansas News Bureau)
Huckabee Liberal on Immigration (Standard Newswire)
Huckabee offered 'no-cost' deal for Mexican Consulate (WorldNetDaily)
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) convention (Arkansas News Bureau)
Immigration bill un-Christian, anti-life, governor says (Arkansas News Bureau)
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
I think its time..
December 20, 2007 - 08:55 ET by jitumaluI think its time that Mr. Finklestein find his own anti-huckabee blog and start nitpicking every little statement.
Just making your life easier buddy, so that you don't have to spin every huckabee story into "exposing and combating liberal media bias".
http://justinok.blogspot.com
Nitpicking?
December 20, 2007 - 09:11 ET by PopularTechThat is just the icing on the cake. Huckabee is a pro-tax, pro-big government, pro-scholarships for illegals and an ignoramous on foreign policy pro-life liberal. Oh I forgot he celebrates Christmas just like all the other Republican candidates!
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
Great post Mark. Although
December 20, 2007 - 08:58 ET by LeonGreat post Mark.
Although I fear statements such as this will become more commonplace until we find ourselves in a good old fashioned holy war.
No matter what Bush says, no matter what language he uses, the conflict of the US v. Terrorism has become Christianity v. Islam for many Americans.
You don't have to go much farther than this website to see this black and white view of the current situation.
PS anyone see the picture of Huckabee's family on Drudge this morning? Check it out. Hilarious. How can such a little man give rise to such massive children. Looks like the Huckabees aren't about to cut out transfat from their diet. haha.
trouble me
December 20, 2007 - 10:48 ET by acumenYou don't have to go much farther than this website to see this black and white view of the current situation.
Why trouble yourself searching this site for a black and white view when you can just press the ACLU easy-button and get a big-screen, high def view of the current situation?
Not smart at all Mr Huckabee
December 20, 2007 - 09:37 ET by Airforce_5_ONot surprising at all that the lack of experience in matter of foreign affairs. This can and will bite him in backside in the long run. Even though theology plays a large part in the way the Jihadist look at us and the rest of the world outside of their views we must be above it. By going after terrorist based on the premise of “They want to kill Americans” is better than “They want to kill Christians”.
If you go after them on the Theological argument then you loose support from the allies we do have in the Muslim world.
A very stupid thing too do.
“The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth.”
Thomas J. Jackson
I agree.
December 20, 2007 - 09:45 ET by dervishPlus, it ain't the Israeli Christians they're after, and the vast majority of al-Qaeda's recent victims are Muslim themselves.
It's not "Muslim vs. Christian," it's "Islamist against anyone we find insufficiently Islamic," including other Muslims.
Why is it that Huckabee, a
December 20, 2007 - 09:56 ET by FAR52Why is it that Huckabee, a governor of Arkansas, is considered too inexperienced in matters of foreign policy, but no such criticisms seem to be directed at Mitt Romney, a governor of Massechuesetts? Seriously, when did Mitt become such a foreign policy guru?
Also, I don't recall too many of you going crazy over Mitt's "insensitivity" towards Muslims when he said they would not serve in his cabinet.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1127/p09s01-coop.html
Mike Huckabee on Foreign Policy
December 20, 2007 - 10:08 ET by PopularTechForeign Policy:
Huckabee: Gitmo Not In America's Best Interests (Video) (1min)
Mike Huckabee Criticizes Bush Administration for 'Bunker Mentality' on Iraq (FOXNews)
The Holiday Inn Express Candidate (National Review Online)
The Problem With Pastor Mike (National Review Online)
"I guess Huckabee is one of those pro-sodomy, pro-gay marriage, pro-evolution evangelical Christians" - Ann Coulter
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
I would criticize any of
December 20, 2007 - 10:17 ET by Airforce_5_OI would criticize any of them for such a statement. It is a bad policy to pit theology as foreign policy. Romney, Fred, Huck, any of them. All of them need to think about how they need to handle terrorist and watch what they are putting out there. Period.
“The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth.”
Thomas J. Jackson
Great post
December 20, 2007 - 10:02 ET by LeonGreat post Airforce,
That's exactly right.
In my mind, the key to defeating terrorism is to get every single non-Islamofascist to support our cause. We need to marginalize the terorrists as much as possible.
Painting a Christianity v. Muslim picture will do little to endear our moderate Muslim allies to our side.
Wow
December 20, 2007 - 10:12 ET by well99I agree with you Leon.It is about fanatics.I dont believe all Americans consider it Christianity v. Muslim.Their will be some but that is to be expected.There are moderates out there but you dont see them on the msm.If you do it is rare that they are shown on msm.
Most Moderate Muslims are
December 20, 2007 - 10:31 ET by Airforce_5_OMost Moderate Muslims are afraid for their lives. A small amount of the religion is holding the rest hostage with theology. The backing is under the table but it is there. Once they stand up, like we are seeing in the remote areas of Iraq, they can take it back,
“The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth.”
Thomas J. Jackson