Harwood: Huck's Economic-Conservative Opponents Churchless Tax-Cut Worshippers

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By Mark Finkelstein | December 18, 2007 - 09:50 ET

You'd hardly expect the chief Washington correspondent of business channel CNBC to negatively stereotype economic conservatives. But appearing on today's Morning Joe, the urbane John Harwood did just that.

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JOE SCARBOROUGH: [Huckabee is] a different type of evangelical. It's not the evangelical in American politics that's traditionally been very conservative economically. Obviously a lot of people at the Wall Street Journal don't like this guy.

HARWOOD: Oh yeah!

SCARBOROUGH: Because he's not an economic conservative.

HARWOOD: The Republicans who worship at the church of cut-taxes-no-matter-what are running around having heart attacks about Mike Huckabee. They don't understand this guy. They're generally secular people. They don't go to church.

Really? Economic conservatives and supply-siders are secular people who "don't go to church"? Paging Hugh Hewitt, Larry Kudlow, Bob Novak, Terence Jeffrey and a good number of my MRC/NB colleagues!

Bonus Coverage: Mika Hearts Huck's Authenticity -- Joe Not So Much

A bit later, when Mika Brzezinski praised Huckabee as a sincere straight shooter, Joe Scarborough evinced some skepticism.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: He's also able to deflect any bad news about him and his past. He deals with it, he confronts it straight on, and looks right into the camera or right into your eye, and says yes I said that or yes I did that. I wouldn't do it today, I wouldn't say it today. He doesn't seem to be sort of cagey or savvy like some of the other candidates out there.

SCARBOROUGH: This is the genius of him. He is the most cagey and he's the most savvy of all of them.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.

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Sounds like Mika is pining for the return of Bill Clinton

"He looks right into the camera or right into your eye..." -Mika

On the other hand, Joe sees Bill Clinton, too, and he isn't buying it. "He is the most cagey and he's the most savvy of all of them."

And, yeah, I heard Harwood's stupid comment this AM:  "They're generally secular people. They don't go to church."   Sigh...Joe jumped on him for that brainless comment, but where do these idiots go to "learn" this stuff?

Sounds to me like Hardwood

Sounds to me like Hardwood has a couple of off-shore accounts. Liberals who complain about people not paying enough in taxes are very hypocritical.

That's supposed to be an

That's supposed to be an endorsement for Huckleberry?

I'm sorry, but we're electing a president, not a pastor. 

Are we supposed to elect a guy who agrees with us on social issues which he can do nothing about (except appoint the judiciary - which Rudy Giggoliani promises to do) but will violate the 8th commandment and steal from the people so government can grow even more?

What's so Christian about tax increases?  We're commanded to care for the poor ourselves, not hire the government to do it.

The most conservative of

The most conservative of all people are church-going people. If these gooks just understand what it meant to be "good stewards" of God's money. That's right folks: the less taxation, the more money conservatives keep and more money to spend to fuel the economy. The more they can keep, also the more money given to church charities and mission work. 100% with zero overhead, and with transparent transactions! (well except to some demented church ministers/layworkers who wants to rob God).

Leftoids wants higher taxes to fund their welfare and dole out money programs that doesn't work. They don't give their money, only other people's money. 

Mike Huckabee is a disaster....

...if the GOP is dumb enough to nominate this guy, say goodbye to the Reagan/conservative coalition.

"women and minorities hardest hit"

The camera does lie

The camera lies all the time, and some people make big money because they know how to make it lie. Like they say about great actors, they're good at "projecting sincerity." When a politician looks you in the eye, and speaks softly yet firmly, that's supposed to be a sign that they're telling the truth. Well, those are behavioral traits that can easily be learned and copied. Why do you think they pay all that money for consultants? The consultants teach what truth-telling looks like, whether you're actually being honest or not.

  • They're great when they can prevent an honest person from miscommunicating, but they enable deceit when they allow a dishonest person to appear true.
  • The idea that surface personal qualities (looking in the eye, firm handshake, body language) prove honesty and character is a self-evident sham. Why do we know it's a sham? Because the people who insist they reveal something are simultaneously advising us how to exploit those same qualities to project the image we want.
  • If you buy into it, you're simply sending a blueprint for how you can be manipulated. You're telling someone that if they look you in the eye, you're going to trust them, but that just warns the liar to look you in the eye.

Maybe knowing about body language will work at the PTA meeting, but politicians running for president know all the tricks to exploit these surface qualities. That's why they don't reveal anything. A smart voter should discount these traits immediately.

I agree with Harwood

The rise of Rudy Giulaini is proof of it. His candidacy, a pro-abortion, anti-family values is nothing but a result of the Wall Street Jorunal, Country Club For Growth Scum attempting to kick Social Conservatives to Curb. Gov. Huckabee is just a result of a backlash by the Christian Conservatives.

 

 

Well, I guess I'm a

Well, I guess I'm a churchless tax-cut worshipper!

Off to morning prayer...

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"Social conservatives?" Juan Williams would love you, Donovan

lol! Williams is a liberal who thinks Huckabee is a "Social Conservative", too.

Tax-raising, amnesty providing, commutation granting, President insulting...check....sounds "conservative", all right.

And the rise of Giulaini proves Republicans who want tax cuts are "secularists who don't go to church?" Wow. You and Harwood seem to share a predeliction to emotionalism over rationality.

Let's see the Rockefeller

Let's see the Rockefeller wing is attempting to ram a Pro-Abortion, Pro-Partial Birth Abortion, Pro Public Funding of Abortion, who has the same position on protecting Marriage as the DemRAT whose personal life is an absolute train wreck in an sinister attempt to marginalize social conservatism within the GOP.

So I think that an accurate description of him and those who would support him.

 

No, Donovan, that's NOT what you said.

You said you agree with Harwood, who said Republicans who believe in tax cuts are generally secularists who don't go to church.

You then said Giuliani's candidacy somehow proves that to be true.

You've also been, laughably, trying to say Huckabee is a "social conservative."

Obviously, you've been trying to morph Harwood's statement into your Huckabee vs Giuliani argument.

The Republicans that are

The Republicans that are most likely to oppose Huckabee, the Country Clubber types are nearly unified in their support Giuliani and those folks are Godless tax cut worshippers of the GOP.

 

That's STILL not what you said, Donovan.

You said you agree with Harwood, who said Republicans who prefer tax cuts are generaly secularists who don't go to church.

Why are you running away from what you said?

Are you claiming it's wrong to think tax cuts are a good thing?

I am not talking about

I am not talking about Repubicans who 'prefer' tax cuts which is basically 99% of Republicans I'm talking about the folks that Joe alluded to before Harwood made his statement the Wall Street Journal Rockefeller Steve Forbes crowd. Based on who they're supporting a candiate who is liberal/secular on everything but taxes and terror I agreed with Harwood.

That makes even LESS sense, Donovan

"...I'm talking about the folks that Joe alluded to before Harwood made his statement..."

If you were agreeing with Joe, then you would have said "I agree with Joe", not "I agree with Harwood."

Fer goodness sakes, instead of all this spinning, wouldn't it be easier to just say you misread the column? 

Harwood is nothing but a

Harwood is nothing but a talking head for the leftist party.

I heard him about two months ago talking to Joe one morning about the candidates and such and he said Joe that's your party, not mine or some such...I have never forgotten that, he admitted he was a liberal right then and there, yeah a real reporter non-biased reporter alright...he never has been never will be. 

The leftist msm loves the Huckster...that is all I need to know. 

Mike Huckabee = Worst GOP Candidate

The more I research Mike Huckabee the worse this gets...

Huckabee on Taxes (Video) (1min)
Another Man From Hope. Who is Mike Huckabee? (The Wall Street Journal)
Christian conservatives: Beware of Huckabee (WorldNetDaily)

Background:

Age: 52

Education:
- Ordained to ministry Southern Baptist Convention, 1974
- B.A. Religion, Ouachita Baptist University, 1976

Military Experience:
- None

Political Experience:
- Lt. Governor of Arkansas, 1993-1996
- Governor of Arkansas, 1996-2007

Religion:
- Baptist

Crime and Punishment:

Mike Huckabee's Clemency Record Is Under Scrutiny (FOXNews)
Why parole a monster like Green?
Mother of Dumond Victim: "If not for Huckabee, she’d be here for Christmas" (Video) (1min)

Ethics:

Huck's gift-givers ended up in state posts
Huckabee Signed '98 Ad Urging Women to 'Graciously Submit' to Husbands

Education:

Huckabee on Education: No to Vouchers, Let Government Fix It (Standard Newswire)

Fiscal Record:

Huckabee's Fiscal Record
Huckabee: The Biggest Big-Government Conservative (FOXNews)
Mike Huckabee is a Liberal (Club for Growth)
Updated Huckabee White Paper (Club for Growth)

- Immediately upon taking office he signed a sales tax hike in 1996
- He raised taxes on gasoline in 1999
- He supported an internet sales tax in 2001
- He created a $5.25 per day bed-tax on private nursing home patients in 2001
- He publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002
- He proposed another sales take hike in 2002 to fund education improvements
- He raised taxes on cigarettes in 2003
- He opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003
- He allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004
- He increased taxes in the state by more than Bill Clinton did
- He increased state spending 65.3% from 1996 to 2004
- The number of state government workers rose 20% during his tenure
- Governor Huckabee refused to pledge not to raise taxes if elected President

Tax Hike Mike

- Overall, Huckabee’s substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax
cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his
tenure.

Global Warming:

Huckabee is the only Republican candidate to support the economy crippling Cap and Trade CO2 Legislation, Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) Regulation and Renewable Energy Standards

Illegal Immigration:

Laura Ingraham: Huckabee Is A "Big Loser" On Immigration (Audio) (5min)
Huckabee Supported Scholarships for Illegal Aliens (Video) (5min)

Fact Checker: Pinocchios for Huckabee on Illegals (Washington Post)
Huckabee aid plan for illegal aliens draws 'venom, anger' (Arkansas News Bureau)
Huckabee Liberal on Immigration (Standard Newswire)
Huckabee offered 'no-cost' deal for Mexican Consulate (WorldNetDaily)
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention (Arkansas News Bureau)
Immigration bill un-Christian, anti-life, governor says (Arkansas News Bureau)

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Award Winning Post PT !

You have set a record! This is the quickest a post has won a Free Stinker Comprehensive List Award.

Great work!

Pop Tech...

When are you gonna learn to do research?

;-) 

Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ 

PT, glad you posted all

PT, glad you posted all your great research. This is why the DImoRats want him as the GOP nominee, they know we will not vote this loser into office so Shillary can take the vote.

He'll be our "Huckelberry" if we put him in the WH. \s 

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

JAB...

Hey, at least Huck knows how to get endorsements....

 http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2007/12/ted_strickland_endorses_mike_h-print.php  Mike Huckananny gets the endorsement of liberal Democratic Governor Ted Strickland of Ohio.

Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/ 

CT, I am having to fight my

CT, I am having to fight my internet connection tonight, so if I do not respond, please understand, it's not personal.

Getting back to the main subject: Thanks, for making my point more poinet.

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

GRRRRRR, damn, that is the

GRRRRRR, damn, that is the 5th time I had to log in again tonight. luckily it posted after writing my post. I must talk to Matthew about time-out response regarding this site.

 

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

Ann Coulter: “Huckabee is the Republican Jimmy Carter”

Ann Coulter: “Huckabee is the Republican Jimmy Carter” (Video) (4min)

I am not a big Ann Coulter fan but I suspect a lot of Huckabee supporters are.

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