Pollster.com: 'Remarkable' Positive Opinion Change on Iraq

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Being against the war after she was for it, could it be soon be time for Hillary to be for it again?

The question arises in light of the findings by Charles Franklin [pictured here] at Pollster.com. According to his November 6th Pollster.com analysis, there has been a "remarkable" shift, in a positive direction, in public opinion on the war in Iraq.

Excerpts from Franklin's Ten Months of Opinion Change on War and More [emphasis added]:

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  • Some interesting changes have taken place in opinion about the war, the president, congress and the country. It is too early, and the changes too modest, to declare this a "turning point" in opinion, but the changes are consistent enough to take a hard look and ponder if there is still potential for significant shifts over the next 52 weeks until Election Day 2008.
  • The single most striking shift is the change in opinion about how the war in Iraq is going. After four and a half years of steady downward trends, there has been a reversal of direction since July.
  • From January through June, the long running collapse in positive evaluation of the war (especially in the second half of 2006) halted. The flattening now appears to have clearly coincided with the change in command and troop levels.
  • This flattening didn't signal rising opinion on the war-- but after dropping over 13 percentage points in six months, simply arresting the collapse was a major plus for the administration. And this is a particularly striking thing given that the spring of 2007 was a focal point for critiques of the war in Congress, with Democratic leadership repeatedly pushing votes that would have required changes in Iraq policy of various kinds. And this flattening came at the same time that casualties rose.
  • The second phase of opinion change started in early July, when positive evaluations of the war took their first upturn since late 2003 (around the time of the capture of Saddam Husein). The trend estimate has turned up some 8 percentage points since July 1, still not back to early 2006 levels, but remarkable this late in an unpopular war and with a weak leader and determined opposition.
  • Republicans (including the president) have made real progress in swaying opinion to their side, while 10 months of Democratic efforts have failed to persuade citizens that the war continues to be a disaster. The war of partisan persuasion has tilted towards the Republicans and away from the Democrats, at least in this particular aspect.

How will the MSM cover this news? The New York Times didn't exactly splash it across the front page, but a discussion of the Pollster report did turn up yesterday in the Times's "Opinionator" blog. Opinionator Tobin Harshaw, after describing the Pollster report, offered a critique of it by Kevin Drum of the liberal "Washington Monthly." Observed Harshaw: "It’s a good point, but I suspect some will feel Mr. Drum shows a bit too much pleasure in making it."

Pollster.com is anything but a GOP front. Head honcho Mark Blumenthal logged 20 years as a Dem consultant, and Franklin is a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin, hardly a hotbed of pro-Republican activism. Judging from this bio, Franklin is a highly-respected polling expert, not a partisan. He is is the past president of the Society for Political Methodology, and works as an ABC election-night consultant.

Perhaps most notable is Franklin's finding that the best efforts of the Dems -- abetted by their MSM allies -- to persuade Americans that the war is a disaster failed. There's a long way to go from now till election day. But couple this news with yesterday's report that our forces have completely rid Baghdad of al-Qaeda-in-Iraq.

Do we detect the sound of Hillary's flip . . . flopping?

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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Rosie is rolling in her

Rosie is rolling in her gravy right about now.

Lol! That's not a vision

Lol! That's not a vision my stomach can handle this early!

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

  Of course CNN has

 

Of course CNN has their own version of the electorate's view on Iraq, giving the dem candidates cover.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/08/war.poll/index.html

LOL!

Remember, Gallup left CNN as a polling partner earlier this year, and was replaced by Vinod Gupta, a longtime Clinton, Incorporated donor and friend, in order to provide favorable polls to elect Her Thighness in 2008.

I notice that the CNN story doesn't even offer a link so their gullible readers can see how the poll was actually conducted. All they offer is that the poll was done on a weekend. Even John Zogby has admitted in the past that he's intentionally polled on weekends in order to get a pro-Democrat result.

Polls, Polls, Polls..  the

Polls, Polls, Polls..  the constant drum beat of these damn polls is more than I can take sometimes.  IMO response to manipulative poll questions are formed in large part by results from other manipulative polls, and from the slanted MSM reporting.  There is very little critical thinking done with respect to the WOT, how it must be fought, and what the consequences would be if we don't persevere in this fight.  

Normally I would believe

Normally I would believe this is just one wrong pollster but I notice that the water carriers in the media have been scavenging for negatives about Iraq.  One that caught me attention was the American war dead for the year.  They wanted to emphasize that it was going up from last year.  I thought that was a strange figure since if you look at it monthly it is going down. 

 

This tells me the libs been given the same info from their pollsters and they want to immediately spread more negative news to suppress this.

Perhaps they are looking at

Perhaps they are looking at the numbers quantitatively, which of course, would mean the number goes up every time one of our soldiers is killed.

**My Daughter at the WWII Memorial

  What I find notable is

  What I find notable is the fact that this proves the country doesn't get it's news from just the msm. 

  Another thing, the antics of the dems in congress with their anti-troop slander and 'cut and run' legislation is offensive to the country as a whole.

  Back in 1968 the anti-war movement did influence the presidential election.  They ensured the election of Richard Nixon.  The election became about what type of people would run the country not just who would be president.  That scenario is now repeating itself.

Good point MA.  It reminds

Good point MA.  It reminds me of guy I used to know in Jr. High School who for two weeks leading up to the superbowl would wear his Buffalo Bills hat and then the day after the superbowl, would wear the hat of the winning team, as you know the Bills were beaten four years in a row, so after the fourth year, we finally took his "phony hat" and, let's just say after what we did to it, he would not want it back.

Same with the dems, they are stuck, because they have been wearing the "defeat" hat for so long and now the "victory" hat is in style, they don't know what to do.

Dang!

I'd give a buck to know what's going in Dingy "The War is Lost" Harry Reid's head right now...

He and all the rest of the White Flag Dems are hosed.

Bring on the YouTube compilations of their troop-backstabbing, cowardly utterances!

I'd give a buck to know

I'd give a buck to know what's going in Dingy "The War is Lost" Harry Reid's head right now...

Probably crickets doing the chicken dance....

I think you owe me a buck!

I really think that questioning others' masculinity is a game probably better left to people who haven't had more cock in and out of them than a Tyson Chicken regional distribution center. AceOfSpades 06162007

It's kind of difficult, in

It's kind of difficult, in today's information age, for the lies (yes, LIES) about the situation in Iraq to continue. People are slowly beginning to realize that most of the rhetoric from the Dems has been sensationalized, cherry-picked, or plain false for political gain. The bad news followed by more bad news from the LSM has been mostly to advance socio/political agendas of the "news" sources. This could only go on for so long before people began to wise up.

 The single most striking shift is the change in opinion about how the war in Iraq is going. After four and a half years of steady downward trends, there has been a reversal of direction since July.

There never was a "steady downward trend". We have been making progress in Iraq since day one. Sometimes it was much slower than might have been desired, but we never went backwards, which is, to me, what "downward trend" means. Schools, hospitals, and infrastructure have constantly been improving, but was never reported. Iraqis have been stepping up and (albeit slowly) taking over their own security. Not reported. Many, if not most, Iraqis are appreciative of our efforts, yet only the disgruntled make the news. Most of the "insurgents" weren't even Iraqi in the first place. They were imported to kill both Americans AND Iraqis. The Sunni/Shiite conflicts have been artificially created by these same "insurgents" to stir up trouble and sway American public opinion against the war, a propaganda effort whole-heartedly assisted by our own LSM.

From January through June, the long running collapse in positive evaluation of the war (especially in the second half of 2006) halted. The flattening now appears to have clearly coincided with the change in command and troop levels.

The Dems made their own bed with this one. They insisted for years that we didn't have enough troops in Iraq. When we put more troops there, they waffled, saying we needed to get out entirely. Then they insisted on public testimony from our military leadership, which tied their hands as to the release of positive information (the main reason for the MoveOn ad). People finally got positive information direct from the commander on the scene, something the Dems coudn't refute (even though they tried - thanks Harry Reid and friends). 

The second phase of opinion change started in early July, when positive evaluations of the war took their first upturn since late 2003 (around the time of the capture of Saddam Husein). The trend estimate has turned up some 8 percentage points since July 1, still not back to early 2006 levels, but remarkable this late in an unpopular war and with a weak leader and determined opposition.

People have finally begun to realize (or remember) that we are in a war. Wars have battles. People, especially soldiers, die in battle. Then the lefties poke themselves in the eye when they compare Iraq to WWII and Vietnam. WWII lasted four years and we suffered well over 400,000 casualties. Vietnam lasted basically eight years (depending on when one counts the actual start and end dates) and cost us 58,000 casualties. We've been in constant combat in Iraq for almost five years, and have suffered less than 4,000 casualties. Yet these disparities are conveniently overlooked as a true comparison (even though there is no true comparison between the three conflicts).

People are finally waking up and realizing they have been spoon-fed BS for the last several years by the Lefties in the media and congress. I'm just hoping this realization picks up momentum and slams the Left like an 18-wheeler on cruise control...

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

CNN CAN'T DO MATH

Just to show you how stupid they are:

"The public also opposes U.S. military action against Iran. Sixty-three percent oppose airstrikes on Iran, while 73 percent oppose using ground troops in that country, the poll found.

Seventy percent said they oppose any military strike on Iran"

So let me get this straight... at least 7 percent of those surveyed, who opposed ANY military action... were in FAVOR of airstrikes?!??  Gee, which is more likely, an epidemic of multiple-personality disorder amongst the pollees, or CNN is fraudulently twisting the results to fit their pre-conceived agenda of negativity?