Hillary Clinton is a "moral conservative." Don't believe it? Ask Amy Sullivan. The Time editor said so on this evening's "Tucker." Let's permit the dialogue between Tucker Carlson and Sullivan to speak for itself. But come back after the transcript to learn some interesting factoids about Ms. Sullivan's background.
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TUCKER CARLSON: What are her core beliefs?
AMY SULLIVAN: On foreign policy, she is a little more hawkish than the rest of the Democratic Party, and certainly more than the primary base is. It seems that on social issues, by which I mean kind of welfare and economic issues [economic issues are social issues?], she's fairly liberal. But she's a moral conservative. Which is to say that she also gets behind, you know, things like values issues. She's endorsed a plan to lower abortion rates that actually just passed through the House and Senate conference committee this week.
TUCKER CARLSON: She also has come out in support of partial-birth abortion, against the vast majority of Americans, at least as measured by poll numbers. So that suggests that's an issue she really believes in.
SULLIVAN: But she also stood up to the choice community a few years ago and declared that abortion was a tragedy.
CARLSON: Hmm. Well, that's not, I mean, her husband has said the same thing. That's not really standing up-
SULLIVAN: "Safe, legal and rare," but she was the one who started it, safe, legal and rare first.
CARLSON: Has she ever suggested placing any restriction of any kind on abortion, limiting for instance abortion for sex selection? Or any restriction, of any kind. Ever? I must have missed it. Has she?
SULLIVAN: I think she's focused more on preventing unwanted pregnancies and providing support for women who are pregnant and want to have their babies but aren't sure that they can afford it.
I was curious to find out more about Sullivan's background. A Googling reveals that she's been a member of "Faithful Democrats" and the "Progressive Faith Media" where her bio states that she formerly served as an "aid" [sic -- at least we hope so] to Senator Tom Daschle.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.
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Huh?
November 8, 2007 - 20:06 ET by acumenBut she's (hillary) a moral conservative.
Just when I think I've heard it all.
One question: Did she say
November 8, 2007 - 20:45 ET by motherbeltDid she say it with a straight face?????
So a moral conservative can be in favor of abortion?
Well why not? Dan Rather said you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things.
Next, she'll be touting her as a fiscal conservative too.
Moral Conservative
November 8, 2007 - 20:06 ET by d1carterMy head is spinning....
Unbelievable stupidity or
November 9, 2007 - 06:09 ET by Andrew H.Unbelievable stupidity or relativism or something...
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Clinton is also a "Pragmatic Moderate"
November 9, 2007 - 08:32 ET by ThisnThatHere's a Time Magazine story titled What Hillary Stands For. When comparing her with Walter Mondale, they say "Clinton is a pragmatic moderate, and Mondale was an old-fashioned liberal". This is such a fluff piece, clearly dedicated to electing Hillary. We can expect to see the entire MSM start to go down this path very, very soon. Absolutely disgusting, with no truth in it at all.
Everybody get set for some serious brainwashing, folks.
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But she's a moral
November 8, 2007 - 20:09 ET by general companyBut she's a moral conservative.
Seems there is no end to their hypocrisy. Even Tucker shoot holes though her claim, how pathetic.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
Hitler loved his dogs too!
November 8, 2007 - 20:10 ET by Gary P JacksonHitler loved his dogs too!
Wow ...
November 8, 2007 - 20:15 ET by Dave PierreThe dishonesty by Time's Sullivan is astounding.
Excellent response by Carlson. The truth is that NARAL and Emily's List, huge supporters of Hillary, oppose any restriction whatsoever on abortion. Hillary's "education" plan to "lower abortion" is nothing short of a canard.
This is a good example of how many in the MSM will say just about anything to try to get Hillary elected.
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November 8, 2007 - 21:17 ET by dahliatraversIt's not enough that Hillary is 100% pro-choice in all tri-mesters, in all circumstances. She also cannot say anything negative about it? The action (supporting abortion in all cases) is not enough; the thought must also conform?
Who could be surprised?
November 8, 2007 - 20:18 ET by celatorPoor Amy Sullivan. Her comments are typical of those who have no
background in moral philosophy, or its most basic axioms, and yet feel called to
pronounce moral principles for all to ponder. As we can see in her
responses to Carlson, she is well trained in obfuscation..
Never ever ever ever trust
November 8, 2007 - 20:20 ET by Right2thePointNever ever ever ever trust a thing this woman says in voice or print again.
Her credibility is totally shot. If she is that uninformed I could never trust any research or commentary she would do for an article.
As Bugs Bunny would say:
November 8, 2007 - 20:22 ET by Free StinkerAs Bugs Bunny would say: What a maroon!
CARLSON: Has she ever
November 8, 2007 - 21:34 ET by drillanwrCARLSON: Has she ever suggested placing any restriction of any kind on abortion, limiting for instance abortion for sex selection? Or any restriction, of any kind. Ever? I must have missed it. Has she?
SULLIVAN: I think she's focused more on preventing unwanted pregnancies and providing support for women who are pregnant and want to have their babies but aren't sure they can afford it.
REALLY, Amy?!!??!!!!??????
Wonder what Tammy Bruce would have to say about that, seeing as she was drummed out of NOW when she suggested pretty much the same thing(s) several years ago.
Come to think of it ... I would LOVE to know what NOW has to say about it ... (Assuming they, NOW are supporting Hillary's run for the White House)
Hillary can't tip waitresses
November 8, 2007 - 21:44 ET by ThisnThatMark, I read this at the same time I heard about Hillary stiffing the waitress, and thought "morals????". She can't even tip a waitress?
She and her campaign must really, really think this nation is dumb and blind, and all we care about is her. What a princess.
They say that NPR is now backing off the original story because someone came by after Clinton left and provided payment -- but it's interesting that Clinton never even said anything to the waitress, and then rushed out to talk about their conversations -- without first getting permission from the waitress. The waitress was pretty pissed off about that. Clueless Clinton -- a treat for all.
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TnT
November 8, 2007 - 21:52 ET by BlondeYep....Hillary is a user.
Front and center.
Too bad, so sad....SPIN, SPIN, SPIN.
Que'lle crap.
Implosion to follow.
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Tnt, Hillary wanted to do what to a waitress?
November 8, 2007 - 22:04 ET by Dave RSorry. It's the current 103 degree internal body temp talking there. Lol.
Very funny, Dave R
November 9, 2007 - 07:50 ET by ThisnThatMy headline: "Hillary can't tip waitress"
It's cow tipping in reverse -- with the cow (Hillary) failing the tipping act.
Good catch!
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I heard about Hillary
November 8, 2007 - 23:27 ET by motherbeltI heard about Hillary stiffing the waitress, and thought "morals????".
TnT, the funny thing is that's exactly the kind of "morals" that HRC usually advocates; the taking-care-of-the-downtrodden "working families" as what we are called to do, you know, as Christians.
I guess that's just with other people's money.
mb, actually, I think HRC wants the gov. to tip the servers.
November 9, 2007 - 14:32 ET by Dave RAfter all, she wants us to pay for everything else.
Guess Hitler loved Communist Jews then too
November 8, 2007 - 22:11 ET by Lame CherryLesbian, lying, aborticide, blackmail, adultery, embezzlement, fraud, dead bodies galore are Hillary Clinton...........just where Ms. "soul dead" Sullivand does any of that sound MORAL or CONSERVATIVE.
That kind of illogic will have Ms. Sullivan saying Hitler loved Communist Jews to death too.
Time needs to fire this creature as she is either delusional or senile.
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Amy and Leon must be the
November 8, 2007 - 22:22 ET by Clear thinkerAmy and Leon must be the same person.
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Absolutely stunned....
November 8, 2007 - 22:42 ET by doug1950After reading this and going to the website for Faithful Democrates and reading other writings of hers and others at the website, I am reminded of the scriptures in 2 Timothy 1-5 where it speaks of the last days and men being lovers of self.....and having a "form" of godliness but denying the power thereof, depart from them (have nothing to do with these people). I suppose in their minds a little abortion is okay as long as it is sanctioned. These people are dangerously crazy as hell.
Not Surprised
November 8, 2007 - 23:58 ET by candanceYou have to consider these liberals live in a world of no moral limits whatsoever. For them, the mere suggestion that abortion might be ugly strikes them as a moral judgement.
She referred to a plan by Hillary to pass out more free condoms and birth control to young women. birth control = less pregnancies = fewer abortions. That was really quite a stretch.
This woman is an editor for Time? She sounded like a DNC strategist. Nice to know where Time gets its news from.
card holding member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
hillary is a
November 9, 2007 - 00:00 ET by botgmoral conservative just as Amy is an intellectual without bias.
all three assertions fail
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One of Amy Sullivan's fellow
November 9, 2007 - 01:07 ET by TEOne of Amy Sullivan's fellow leftists at Time magazine, Joe Klein, has a long piece online, which is apparently what Time calls a straight "news" piece (ROTFLMAO!), about Rodham in which he actually asserts that Rodham is a "pragmatic moderate". The most reliable thing every four years from these leftist fools in the Washington press corps is that they will, without fail, assert that their preferred candidates (i.e., Democrats) are "moderates".
After that I need a new
November 9, 2007 - 11:06 ET by charlietexasAfter that I need a new monitor and keyboard. I spewed coffee all over
them at the "moral conservative". Does this woman think we all
stupid to believe that??? I want to know what shes smokin! Must be
pretty good, shes a liberal.
Formerly served...
November 9, 2007 - 23:12 ET by ProudGulfWarVet65"...as an "aid" [sic -- at least we hope so] to Senator Tom Daschle." Would that be a 'marital aid', perchance? Now that's more in line with the leftist ideal of 'faith'. Heh...
Despite the soup-spraying insanity of that remark...
November 10, 2007 - 03:17 ET by mattmit's obvious that the Hillary campaign (a.k.a. the MSM) think she needs a few of those Right Wing bible-thumping red-neck votes....