When it was Bill Clinton "busy committing adultery" in the Oval Office, that was a "personal matter" and was "nobody's business except his and his wife's". (And yes, it was adultery. Ask any married woman.) Now it's a major stumbling block to Giuliani.

Now this is the part that I have never been able to get. When did government spending become part of the divine agenda? Collins

I don't recall the NYT having a problem with government spending as part of the "divine agenda" when Democrats are pressing for more taxes and entitlement programs by preaching that God exhorts us to "take care of each other." But I guess that's different.

Collins is ridiculing Robertson for caring about Islamic Jihad (also a VERY big deal to Christians...you know, the Islamists wanting to bring the whole world to Islam, and all..) because she would like nothing better than for Christians to "sit out" the election or go with a third-party candidate to ensure HRC's victory.

I love this: Gail Collins telling Pat Robertson what he and all Christians should be concerned about. (Hey, Rev. Robertson, nevermind Jihad...you're supposed to be against Rudy, he's a sinner!!)

Is the Times beginning to panic at the thought that Christians might choose to back the Republican candidate?

Ya think???????

Careful Gail, don't let gay people know how you truly view them.

No offense, Gail, but, in the words of David Spade on SNL
" there's somebody called a dentist and procedures for bleaching or whitening your teeth. Look into it."
(or use a different PR photo!)

Never mind about Bill Clinton, that was no big deal to the libs. Give me a break!

Dear Gail, Crest white strips work !!

Mark, you forget that besides the small faux pas of being a serial adulterer/rapist, Bill Clinton atoned for his sins by being all in favor or late term and partial birth abortions. In the liberl lexicon, that position alone allowed for any minor peccadillos on Bill's part. That is why in the case of a Democrat activities such as perjury, witness tampering, destruction of evidence, and abuse of power, activities which if done by a Republican would be copious grounds to run him out of office, do not rise to the level of impeachment.

To cement his place among the ranks of the saints of the Democrat Party, Bill was also busy gutting the military, emasculating the intelligence organs of this country and making sure they couldn't communitcate their findings with each other, fomenting class warfare, rewarding the societal parasites and punishing the producers, and otherwise implementing the aims and policies of Communist theory.

Rudy, on the other hand managed to commit many sins against the Church of Marxism that is the Democrat Party. Among these sins are that he managed to reduce crime in New York City by showing intolerance to the activities of the "homeless", and he managed to bring some semblance of control to the spending habits of the New York City government. His biggest sin is that he is a Republican. That in itself outweighs his positions as anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage; three positions for which the Dems would be enamored of him if only he were in their party.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

"OK, let's try to explain this: people of faith are also allowed to have secular concerns..."

The fact that you had to go to this length to 'explain this' illustrates the problem when dealing with the Left: their continual use of bogus reasoning;  i.e. if person A and Person B disagree on issue C then they couldn't possibly agree on any other issue.

I like to believe that most people see through it though....

This is not to say I endorse Rudy, or agree with Robertson's statement...

Does anyone read Gail Collins?  I don't see her columns discussed anywhere but here. Is she relevant?  Is she influential in NYC or other environs?  I am happy to rip her arguments and silly points of view but does she carry any weight or is it just her employer that makes her of interest? I am still learning.

"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."  Hillary Clinton, 6-28-04 San Francisco

Joe Scarborough opened "Morning Joe" today by ripping Collins' column

If you could find the link to his exchange with Mika he was incensed that Mika even thought is appropriate. Never saw him get angry like that. So he was upset with Collins and with Mika.

She is so spectacularly out of her league and over her depth that the NYT had to gently dislodge her from her post overseeing the Op-Ed page. She and I share the same alma mater [Marquette], so I wanted to cut her a little slack when she got the job. But she made such a hash of it that I turned on her as did almost every sane reader of the few pieces allowed to be viewed free-of-charge back in her day.

Anything Bill does in the adultery department appears to be okay by Gail, doesn't it? Just your everyday double-standard liberal hypocrisy---not even noteworthy because it happens on a daily basis in the NYT.

Maureen now is starting to turn on Hillary, as the deep-throat crowd appear to be past their cut-off [or is it penetration?] point with Hillarious and her wandering philandering Bubba-hubby.

Gail--all the cute little accusations or rants of the socialist left will not cause me to vote for a democrat--ever. 

Liberalism is a convenient lie.