Eight 9-11 Hijackers Were Registered to Vote: Will MSM 'Drive' Story?

Eight 9-11 Hijackers Were Registered to Vote: Will MSM 'Drive' Story?

By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
November 2, 2007 - 06:24 ET

The fact has been out there for some time, but never garnered much media attention. Now, in the context of the current debate over the granting of driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, will there be renewed focus on this chilling reality? Could this be the factoid that changes a presidential election? As John Fund wrote in his Wall Street Journal column today and discussed during his "Morning Joe" appearance:

After 9/11, the Justice Department found that eight of the 19 hijackers were registered to vote.

View video of Fund's "Morning Joe" appearance here.

And what made it so simple for them to register? As Fund explains:

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[T]he National Voter Registration Act, commonly known as "Motor Voter," that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993. It required all states to offer voter registration to anyone getting a driver's license. One simply fills out a form and checks a box stating he is a citizen; he is then registered and in most states does not have to show any ID to vote.

The Fund column contains other mind-boggling details of the extent to which Eliot Spitzer, the New York governor whose drivers license plan Hillary Clinton supports, wanted to go:

Despite a tactical retreat this week--he says he will only give illegal immigrants a license that isn't valid for airplane travel and entering federal buildings--Mr. Spitzer has taken active steps to obliterate any distinctions between licenses given to citizens and non-citizens.

In a memo last Sept. 24, he ordered county clerks to remove the visa expiration date and "temporary visitor" stamp on licenses issued to non-citizens who are legally in the country. A Spitzer spokeswoman explained the change was made because the "temporary" label was "pejorative," given that some visitors might eventually stay in the U.S.

This is an issue that has the potential to change the course of a presidential election. How much coverage will the MSM devote to the story of those registered-to-vote hijackers?

Excerpts from Fund's "Morning Joe" appearance:

JOHN FUND: New York State is one of the most liberal states in the country. 75% of people in New York oppose Governor Spitzer's plan to give illegal aliens driver's licenses. And there's a whole revolt among the county clerks. I quote in today's "Wall Street Journal," the Democratic clerk in Oneida County: "giving illegal aliens driver's licenses is an open invitation to voter fraud." Because once you get a driver's license you get a registration card with that. If you registers, you can vote, there's no identification [required], it's an open path.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: If you give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, then in effect you're making it a lot easier for them to vote illegally in elections.

FUND: Well, there could be ways where you would prevent that from happening. If, for example, you required photo ID at the polls. But Governor Spitzer and Hillary Clinton oppose that, even though 80% of Americans want people to show photo ID at the polls. You show it for everything else. You have to show it to rent a video at Blockbuster. So there would be ways to prevent that, but under this current system, there literally is nothing to prevent someone from getting a driver's license, registering to vote, and then voting.

A bit later, in discussing the shady circumstances under which Republican Bob "B-2" Dornan in 1996 lost his California congressional seat to Dem Loretta Sanchez, Fund dropped the bombshell about the 9-11 hijackers.

FUND: Here's the thing. An immigration investigation by the federal government found 4,000 probable illegal voters in that race. It was decided by less than 1,000 votes. Eight of the 9-11 hijackers, eight of the 19 hijackers, were registered to vote -- because they'd gotten driver's licenses.

SCARBOROUGH: Really? Wow.

Yeah. Wow.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.

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If Spitzer and Clinton

November 2, 2007 - 06:37 ET by Senior Chief

If Spitzer and Clinton doesn't see the danger in issuing driver's license to illegals, 9-11 is going to repeat...and maybe more catastrophic!

None of the Democrack's side has a cohesive illegal immigrant program, because they want their votes. And same goes with the Republican side, except Rep. Tancredo clear stance.

Oklahoma is leading our country in kicking out illegals and need to be copied. Now that New York is contemplating issuance of driver's license to illegals, the illegals of Oklahoma are heading that way. Welcome to New York, home of the Clintons!

Concur: This is all about

November 2, 2007 - 06:52 ET by BD

Concur:

This is all about the dems getting the Al Queda Vote.

I wonder if anyone in the press would speculate who those seven votes would have been cast for? We should offer a prize for the first MSM outlet to ask that question.

Senior Chief

November 2, 2007 - 09:42 ET by bassndude

As a side note to the Oklahoma law, it was reported yesterday, locally, that some 20,000 illegals left the state last month. Yesterday, the day the law went into effect, it was reported that some crews, housing and construction, dident show up. The hispanics were protesting outside the capitol yesterday and they were asking, who was going to build the houses, do construction, wash dishes and do the laundry? I found it offensive as I worked construction for years, my son in law frames houses, and these people seem to think that it is only the illegals that do such work.

If you look back in the papers around the 1860's, you will find the same arguments were used when they were debating on freeing the slaves. We got along fine without the slaves, and prospered as a nation because of it, not inspite of it. We will suvrive again.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

I hate this argument to.

November 2, 2007 - 13:42 ET by alamojb

I hate this argument to. As an Anglo US citizen I have done construction work several times between active duty assignments with the National Gaurd. Do they think the US had no houses before 1986?

We were all just sitting around waiting for the Mexican invasion . Before 1986 there were no buildings in the US. We all lived in tents. New York city was flat as a pancake. The Empire State building was not built till the first 100,000 illegal Mexicans arrived there in 1987. Thank Allah for the masses of Mexican hordes!

This is an issue that has

November 2, 2007 - 06:45 ET by motherbelt

This is an issue that has the potential to change the course of a
presidential election. How much coverage will the MSM devote to the
story of those registered-to-vote hijackers?

Proabaly none. Or at most, in their coverage of why illegals "should" have licenses, they will throw in a throw-away line that "opponents say" illegals could "possibly" (as if it's extremely unlikely) register to vote...

Oh, excuse me, but isn't that the whole point of why Democrats want this to happen?

I'm curious...will illegals have to take a driving test to get their licenses? How about the written test?

And I'm also curious about how this is supposed to make our roads "safer." Will illegals have fewer accidents when they have licenses? Does that mean they will buy auto insurance? If they're not buying it now, what makes anyone think they will then?

Why don't they just admit it's about the votes and save us a lot of trouble? That's what motor-voter was about from the beginning. This just raises it to a new level.

Frankly, I think not only should this idea be junked but we should backtrack and repeal the motor-voter act.

The one thing you can count

November 2, 2007 - 07:44 ET by Gat New York

The one thing you can count on is the Democrats own self-destructor - Governor Steamroller of New York. He is intent on forcing this issue and as long as he does it will be a viable issue for Republicans, particularly if that candidate is Rudy and his opponent is Hillarity.

Defeating redundancy

November 2, 2007 - 09:19 ET by KC Mulville

“Will illegals have fewer accidents when they have licenses? Does that mean they will buy auto insurance? If they're not buying it now, what makes anyone think they will then?”

Excellent points, motherbelt. Reminds me of a story. Once on a trip to El Salvador, we had to travel from San Salvador (in the south) to a province called Chalatenango in the north. There was only one road we could use, and there were three checkpoints we had to pass. The first checkpoint was just outside San Salvador, and we could expect to waste an hour as we were searched. However, our guide told us not to worry about the other checkpoints, because those soldiers assumed that if the first checkpoint had let you through, that was good enough for them. Sure enough, the other checkpoints literally waved us through without slowing down.

Our society is filled with redundancy, unlike those Salvadoran checkpoints, to try to catch the people that slip through otherwise. Think of what happens if your driver’s license expires. They don’t come after you, but if you get stopped for a traffic ticket, that’s how they catch you. You can’t sue someone in court if you have outstanding warrants against you. Society depends on these redundancies.

The chief hook for catching people is when they need to use identification for doing something. That’s why, despite whatever short term benefit you think you’re achieving, we don’t want to weaken or nullify identification. That’s the part they’re trying to ski over. Their short term benefit comes at the cost of long term security.

Want to strike a blow for freedom anyone?

November 2, 2007 - 06:51 ET by NL207

There are 40 states that do not require proof of citizenship to vote. It is illegal for non-citizens to vote in all states.

California, a state that is loaded with illegal aliens is one of them, and is ceratin to have tens of thoudands of such illegal voters on its rolls.

File suit in a receptive federal court on Nov. 10 2008 seeking to have the California Electors decertified on the grounds that massive voter fraud in the form of illegal alien votes occurred there and back it up with sampled voter registrations. It is a virtual impossibility for a liberal Democrat to be elected President without California's electors.

Take a page out of the left's playbook and use it against them. Draw these cowards out where the general public can see clearly who they really are and that they are the enemy of the common man in America.

Wow

November 2, 2007 - 06:56 ET by mytwocents

I like that idea a lot. How can we get that one started?

I forwarded the comment to Judicial Watch

November 2, 2007 - 09:22 ET by pbanks7

I hope I wasn't being too presumptuous. I added the following comment, then the entire post and the link to this node.

Great Idea: I'm forwarding it to JW. Is this something you guys look into?

Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.

It is a virtual

November 2, 2007 - 07:07 ET by dscott

It is a virtual impossibility for a liberal Democrat to be elected President without California's electors

NL, it is a virtual impossibility for a liberal Democrat to be elected to any office without the Dem party machine stuffing the ballot boxes with illegals voting as the Feds have forced the purging of voter registration rolls so dead people can't vote, and people who moved can't vote in two places. This is also why they are desparately trying to go back to the paper ballot of the hanging chads. The so called lack of paper trail on electronic voting is a red herring, it is so easy to have your friends and cronies fill out those ballots.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.

Since these states are

November 2, 2007 - 07:12 ET by Senior Chief

Since these states are violating the US contitution, why not amend then in the name of "suffrage of illegal aliens"...Hey leftoid legislators out there, that's a hint. Or maybe, it's already done at the state level since nobody is talking about it!

Spitzers Fast Path to Citizenship

November 2, 2007 - 07:36 ET by allanf

Obviously, the story is not newsworthy, unless the eight terrorists registered as Republicans.

One has to wonder why Eliot Spitzer is working so hard, in a state that is overwhelmingly Democrat to force this unpopular measure through. I doubt it is about unlicensed drivers getting into accidents. New York requires uninsured motorist coverage for that. It's only concern about the insurance industry is to regulate it.

The only motive that makes sense is expanding the party's grasp over a new generation of voters. Look for the next great right's push to be "its not fair that aliens can't vote". And by the way, vote Democrat oh Alien.

The way to stop that is for the Federal Governement to thank Spitzer for compiling a list of names and addresses of illegal aliens. Tell him now the INS knows where to go.

I'm not sure if he expects

November 2, 2007 - 07:46 ET by Gat New York

I'm not sure if he expects these people to vote or not, but there is no doubt that he is pandering to the Latino citizens who can vote. The problem is that over 70% of New Yorkers do not want this under any circumstances. Gray Davis got recalled over this issue and the Steamroller could end up being a one-term governor over it.

Even with Motor Voter laws

November 2, 2007 - 07:39 ET by FastEd

NY has a constitution that requires citizenship (Article 1, Section 2).

That being the case, spitezer is walking a fine line regarding the constitutionality of his OWN position - defending the law of the state and the law of the land, as stated in his swearing-in. Seems that "lawyers" in the Empire State can 'create' their own laws without legislative process.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

NYS Constitution

November 2, 2007 - 07:57 ET by allanf

Doesn't Article I Section 2 cover Trial by Jury.

On another point, there are many Federal Judges who would uphold Spitzer's plan and his authority to institute it. There are even some who would make driver's licenses a basic right.

It is a shame that out court system is in such a sorry state.

Consitution?

November 2, 2007 - 09:09 ET by kbworkman

You presume that the people behind the move to gain illegal votes are worried about running afoul of the constitution.

Since they don't seem to be too worried about trashing the federal constitution, why should they worry about any state constitution?

Here in the County where I

November 2, 2007 - 07:47 ET by msh1973

Here in the County where I live (SWFl) one has to show a photo ID and sign your name on the voter log. I can't believe other States aren't doing the same thing.

Here in Florida too, that's

November 2, 2007 - 08:01 ET by dscott

Here in Florida too, that's why the NAACP called us racists bringing back Jim Crow, Florida purged the voter rolls and required ID to vote. That's part of the reason why Al Gore and John Kerry lost...they couldn't stuff the ballot boxes like they were used to using dead people's names, people who moved out of the area, fictional people (ACORN) and so resorted to hauling senile old people from ALFs to the election poles to "help" them vote, hence the hanging chads by people who didn't have the mental capacity to make an independent decision.

Of course that didn't stop them from sending illegals to the poles who went without IDs, claimed to be someone they were not and then voted in their place. When the real person came, they either weren't allowed to vote or had to vote on a provisional ballot for them to sort out later if the results were close enough to warrant it. In the meantime both votes were invalidated which means, if you get enough people to cancel out the ones voting against you, only your votes count. Dems are so sleazy. If you don't agree with their ideas and go along with them, they just go ahead to make the decision anyway.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. dscott's corollary: The line between malice and stupidity is called depraved indifference.

I caught four or five

November 2, 2007 - 08:03 ET by TE

I caught four or five minutes of this morning's show (that's much more than I can usually endure of that unwatchable show), and Mika Brzenzinski TWICE referred to George W. Bush's approach to governing as "my way or the highway". Translation: Anyone who doesn't fully endorse Brzenzinski's militant leftist fundamentalism is advancing a "my way or the highway" approach to governing.

We need commercials and full page newspaper ads

November 2, 2007 - 08:11 ET by Dee Bunk

We need commercials and full page newspaper ads or this won't get out. This is something Republicans need to hammer on over and over. There is no valid reason not to require photo ID's to vote. I think at least 75% of the public would agree with that. It's a no brainer and they need to put the pressure on the Dems.

Bubbles was at an unusual

November 2, 2007 - 08:12 ET by guein

Bubbles was at an unusual loss for words during this segment, unless you count the saying "wow". Is she silently rethinking her position on a number of liberal issues, including drivers licenses for illegals, when presented with a few facts? Or, had she tuned out already and was thinking about her afternoon trip to the spa?

Bubbles

November 2, 2007 - 08:37 ET by Mulligan22

You are giving her too much credit by saying she was "thinking".

Let anyone vote..........for a democrat.

November 2, 2007 - 09:09 ET by XJ.Jon

"You show it[Photo ID] for everything else. You have to show it to rent a video at Blockbuster." - John Fund

More proof that Capitalism is more effective than the government. I laugh when my lefty friends blast the media for being biased, and then they use the information gained from the MSM for their talking points.

The libs only get worse, and worse. They go to new lowest standards every election. Just when you think they can't get any more anti-American, they are sure to do so.

Makes me sick.

The MSM will bury it, but

November 2, 2007 - 09:18 ET by mattm

The MSM will bury it, but the AM (alternate media) will not.

If it weren't for vote fraud, Al Gore wouldn't have even been close in 2000, and the only way the Dems will win in 2008 is by fraud.

The GOP had better be ready for this...

QUESTION FOR ALL

November 2, 2007 - 09:41 ET by Mark Finkelstein

I'm trying to get a handle on the extent to which the MSM has buried this story, which first appeared three years ago.

I'd appreciate people's response: did you know before today that eight of the 9-11 hijackers were registered to vote?

I didn't.

Mark F. No.

November 2, 2007 - 09:47 ET by bassndude

I dident know about it till I read this. And I am enraged!!!

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Mark, I had not a clue.

November 2, 2007 - 09:48 ET by JAB

Mark, I had not a clue. This is the first I have heard about it. It does not surprise me who was behind making it so easy to vote. BTW, how's that China link thing coming along Mrs. Clinton? That story appears to have been buried as well.

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

I did not know either.

November 2, 2007 - 10:35 ET by kdoliver

I did not know either. However, I am not surprised.

http://thelazytriathlete.blogspot.com/

Mr. Finkelstein,I had no

November 2, 2007 - 10:48 ET by Roger the Shrubber

Mr. Finkelstein,

I had no idea those poor, innocent, misunderstood freedom fighters could vote.

I do know the middle names of Britney's children, though.

Mark

November 2, 2007 - 10:57 ET by d1carter

I did not know this before today. I knew about the drivers licenses but not that they were registered to vote.

Just an aside: Have you noticed that when John Fund does that squint that he seems to know he is dropping a "bomb" on the listeners?

Mark, the voting hijackers is a story that should be ridden hard

November 2, 2007 - 11:20 ET by RJ

by you, NB, et al.

Oh, and like most others here, I'm a news junkie, but hadn't an inkling until today

I didn't have the clue

November 2, 2007 - 11:32 ET by Senior Chief

I didn't have the clue until...today! So, probably even all the president-wanna-bes didn't have the vague idea that 8 of 19 hijackers were able to vote. Please provide the link. Thanks.

R/Senior

registered to vote?

November 2, 2007 - 12:02 ET by BurroCrane 3098

Never had a clue.

It was news to me also Mark - you should do a NB Poll thing

November 2, 2007 - 12:08 ET by Dee Bunk

I had not heard of it.

We've done a poll!

November 2, 2007 - 12:48 ET by Mark Finkelstein

Thanks for the great suggestion. I just posted a poll, and naturally I encourage everyone to vote. Well, assuming you're legally registered voters, that is ;-)

We can thank the Clinton

November 2, 2007 - 12:39 ET by bigtimer

We can thank the Clinton team who helped to create this illegal mess along with aiding them into this country with ease, this has been and is a plan for a long time for voting fraud...it was simple to see with the Motor Voter plan...

As to B-1 I was furious then, still am...I remember well the BS in the House with Steny Hoyer doing the count or such on Dornan's complaint that there were a lot of illegal votes...of course Dornan lost as planned.

As far as the hi-jackers voting they had a lot of different ID's too so who knows how many times people vote over and over...

Glad this has been brought to attention somewhere, I am glad all of this illegal immigration vote fraud is coming to attention with the msm, which they well know and have had to keep quite about because they work hand in hand with the dems...they are going to be forced little by little to report on this as the election and debates move closer and closer.

Everything is coming out in the wash...let the sun shine in!

Illegal immigration is going to be as it should be a top issue for the candidates...I was shocked when Russert finally brought it up...it worked wonders though....heheheee

Hillary, Eliot, eight terrorists, and a debate

November 2, 2007 - 13:50 ET by Moonage

I posted a long post based on Mark's comments here. Too long to repeat here. Basically nothing about this is terribly surprising given her past involvement with motor voter in 1993 to the recent legislation Hillary's supporting regarding easing voter registration even more.

http://newpol.moonagewebdream.com/2007/11/02/eliot-spitzer-hillary-clinton-a-debate-and-eight-terrorists/

You're asking the wrong question.

November 3, 2007 - 01:37 ET by Keith

Dear Mr F.

You wrote...

"How much coverage will the MSM devote to the story of those registered-to-vote hijackers?"

That in my not so humble opinion, is the wrong question sir. Although given your mission here, an understandable one. The question is not how much coverage will the MSM give the issue, YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER. None. They've been too invested in the demoncrats "approach", this would be the same MSM that mitigates our success in Iraq, lies about our actions and has taken PRIDE in their ability to turn the country AGAINST our efforts. If you weren't so nice I'd tell you to WAKE UP! Do you really think Clinton signing a bill that required all states to offer voter registration to anyone getting a driver's license by SIMPLY FILLING OUT A FORM AND CHECKING A FRIGGIN' BOX, was an ACCIDENT!!!????

Dude, you gotta see that they've been PLANNING this for a LONG time! That's why the Demoncrat minions have been so adamantly AGAINST photo id's, for goodness sake! You've been WORKED, PWNED, PUNKED, or whatever you call it when the opposition OUTTHINKS you! The question is "Why isn't every Republican in the country, RENDING THEIR GARMENTS and SCREAMING that THIS PROVES THAT THE DEMONCRATS CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH SECURITY"????! Where are the ads showing the newscoverage of the fact that they'd registered to vote, juxtaposed against Her Shrillness, babbling about how Spitzers garbage "MAKES SENSE"????? THIS IS A WINNER a wedge issue and a friggin' HOLE IN ONE, all wrapped up in a nice little bow! Now lets see what the feckless Republicans who's morality lies in MAMMON, do about it!

I like your style!!

November 3, 2007 - 01:42 ET by MightyMouth

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

And I yours

November 3, 2007 - 03:08 ET by Keith

Hey, wouldn't you guys like to know "WHAT PARTY THEY REGISTERED AS A MEMBER OF? hmmmmm. Wouldn't it be absolutely delicious and earth shattering if, as I suspect, they were DEMS?