Rich is an unusually nasty and hysterical man.   There is a pattern to his thoughts and liberal/left wing thought in general. It hinges on the inability to make distinctions. The possibility that a program can be abused is the same as an abusive program.

The CIA is the same as the "Gestapo" in this demented calculus. Bush is like Hitler.  The US Military commits massacres. Yet they support  "our" troops and are "concerned" about military casualties. These are self loathing and self hating people who actually lack a moral compass.

 One's ability to make distinctions flows from a firm set of core beliefs and principles.   Liberals, who take the view that all sides are equally right, cannot muster the mettle to take a courageous stand.

Criticizing the United States government is as easy as being a liberal. There are no consequences. There is no fear of retribution. It is an easy way to feel good about yourself.

These people have no principles or values except perhaps for a common hatred of American success  and morality.  

It included hypothermia, stress positions and long-time sleep deprivation.

Sorry, none of those are torture in my book, not with the people we're dealing with.  Rich probably considers mean words and finger pointing to be torture.

We are waging this war as humanely as possible, often to our own detriment.  Our rules of engagement and sensitivity to civilian casualties puts our troops at unnecessary risk and compromises missions, but we do it because we're civilized.

We would be perfectly justified tossing the Geneva Convention provisions out the window, but we don't.  We hold ourselves to higher standards than we expect from anyone else.

Frank Rich and his ilk are citizens of the world and are embarrassed by their country.  As a proud, red-white-and-blue, flag waving American, I am embarrassed by them.

  .....hypothermia, stress positions and long-time sleep deprivation

    Heck...  I bet my Boy Scout winter camping trip was worse.  It was back before all the modern camping gear.  We'd only get a couple hours of sleep on a cold hard ground and then get up shivering to restoke the fire.  At daybreak we loaded up our packs and hiked more miles on slippery snowy trails.

The good Germans = liberals who excuse Dictators and terrorists. They excuse massive systemic murder and torture but condemn our whole country for a few isolated cases. Do they think there was no torture by the Americans, British, French or any other country in World War II?

Liberals have no concept of scale and don't know how to use appropriate analogies. The conservatives are the one’s condemning large scale murder and torture while liberals excuse it. Liberals now are just like the liberals in France, Briton and elsewhere who were apologists for Hitler. In WWII many liberals believed that their country needed to “get along” with Hitler. A great documentary that illustrates this is called “The Sorrow and the Pity”. It has actual footage and interviews from French people during the Nazi occupation. It shows how easily the French people were fooled by Nazi propaganda. Many blamed the Jews not Hitler.

So when liberals compare conservatives to NAZIs but then they throw babies into the flames of an abortion clinic then walk away as if they just threw out the garbage...I guess that's OK? Are we to presume they are good liberals? Good Americans?

Let's see...if I can hit all the liberal anti-war whines that Rich used in this article.

Bush Lied; Abu Ghraib; Mission Accomplished; Blackwater "massacre"; Paul Bremer the "Viceroy"; stampede a nation shell-shocked by 9/11; makeshift armor; Bush-Cheney secretiveness; extralegal contractors; "Gestapo tactics in our war".

He should have used Cindy Sheehan as his by-line.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

Mark,
Did you happen to catch the op-ed from Stephen Colbert in the NYT's this morning? He subbed for Maureen Dowd. He talks about Frank Rich. There's a link on my blog, for anyone interested. It's priceless.

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Mr. Rich is guilty of false moral equivalence by use of a faulty time line.

Our moral trajectory over the Bush years could not be better dramatized than it was by a reunion of an elite group of two dozen World War II veterans in Washington this month. They were participants in a top-secret operation to interrogate some 4,000 Nazi prisoners of war. Until now, they have kept silent, but America’s recent record prompted them totalk to The Washington Post.

Notice how Mr. Rich never draws the distinction between a terrorist and a soldier?  Somehow a captured terrorist has the legal or moral rights on the order of a POW.  Sorry Mr. Rich, your equivalence falls flat right there.  The German POWs were interrogated under the rules of war that their country agreed to by signing the Geneva Convention.  Please note that the Germans near the end did not treat our POWs with equal distinction I am sad to say.  OBL and al Qaeda did not and will not abide by the rules of war, so why should we treat them differently than they behaved?  When a group decides to kill innocent civilians as a means to advance their agenda, that's cold blooded murder and such qualifies them as terrorists.  

It's a good thing people like Mr. Rich and Clinton are not in charge now as they were during the incompetent reign of Bill Clinton.  It was Bill Clinton's feckless governance that inspired OBL to do his deeds (according to OBL), the conception, the planning and the preparation of 911 were all done on Bill Clinton's watch.  Sandy Berger attempted to cover up Clinton's malfesance and incompetence.

No Mr. Rich, your moral outrage is a falsehood, an act (a poor one at that) and the fact you now accuse the average American of collaborating with an evil government as the Germans of Hitler's day demonstrates that you acknowledge most Americans will not countance Islamofascism as your liberal predecessors did the NAZIs and Communists of that era.  In fact, it was liberals who wholey embraced Adolf Hitler, his anti-Semitism and his sickening Eugenics just as you do now of the Mullahs of Iran.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

Poor Frank Rich, a one-tune boy if there ever was one. Here we go again with the Gestapo/Hitler thing.
Rich is probably better known as the "theater critic" (yea, I know, I'm laughing too) whose greatest joy was in destroying the careers of young talented writers and actors, And man was he good at it. Remember the spoiled jealous fat kid in Pee Wee's Great Adventure who wanted Pee Wee's nice bike and would do anything to get it? That's Rich's entire philosophy. Acquired what others have (like talent, for example) at any cost, including destroying the charecter of the possessor. Oh, he's a piece of work, alright.

Andrew Sullivan and Frank Rich should really visit history or ask someone who actually understands it to get the following points:

Like World War I which Germany got into trouble because Bismark was feuding with the European cartel powers as Prussian Frederick the Great was feuding with the royal whores of Europe, it was socialist, fascist, globalist cartel patrons in Rockefellers and Rothschilds who funded the German Socialist obscure party which the world knows as Nazi.
These socialists are the ilk Frank Rich and Andrew Sullivan are employed by and they break bread with often.

The religious cult of Nazism was bred for war as much as the cartel funded Karl Marx in communism to govern masses on the cheap while the cartels raped said nations of mineral wealth.

The cartel has it's own religion, a false messiah cult, and they saw 3 brick walls to world domination. The first in Europe was the German people who trace immigration to the Assyrians, but are the protractors of Christianity in Europe. The British were the other problem and America was the third problem to world domination.

In just focusing on Germany, the first World War was designed to destroy the World Colonial Empires. World War II was designed to destroy the independent super state backed by Christian undertones and a coming third World War will be designed to destroy the nation state leaving the world without borders. (Check the European Union and North American union being implanted.)

It was enormously necessary to destroy the German superpower state and the Nazi was chosen to so antagonize nations that the Soviets would swoop in and conquer Germany which would mean all of Europe. The "problem" in the plan of the elite though is Hitler got wind of Stalin beign urged and instead attacked first.

The end result though was what was desired in Germany wiped from the map not as she was. Whether people want to face the fact or not, the allies basically by Rockefeller plants infused the wealth into the west and America after the war by not bombing German industrial areas. People might be shocked to know during the war that the German Warburgs ran the American Federal Reserve. Not too surprising the same Rockefellers were dealing with the Soviet's during the Cold War and Europe was buying Russian oil funding nukes aimed at the west.

So Frank Rich can look to his bed mates for the Nazi programs which incorporated. He is quite wrong though in his "wide spread" use of torture techniques being Nazi as the Europeans have been doing this before 1500 AD.

What Germany got though is this after World War II. A western state harnessed by the west and an eastern state where most of the population born from 9 months after the Soviet invasion were Russian bastards as the Russian military raped every female from infants to old fraus to the rumor of even animals.

This bastard population of communists have now been incorporated into modern Germany bringing the complete destruction of an ancient people immigrated from Assyria.

As a note modern Germans derive their name from the Romans who actually named the region after the "Germani" who are in reality an immigrant people of the Scythians who plunged into central Asia spreading from the Caucusus out of northern Iran. In that region they were known as Khumri and Cimmeran according to Babylonian and Persian writings.

The names being derived like Reaganites and Yankees (Jahn Cheese) after these people's location and King who was Omri of Samaria or of the Lost 10 Tribes of Israel.

While the Assyrian "Germans" remained, a great many Germani migrated in different waves to England and in mass to the United States building this nation with the unique character it has with the other immigrant sects of Scots, Irish and Huegonauts of France of Norman ancestry contrary to the coastal patrician Angles who harbor these cartel cliques making war on Americans today.

Frank Rich is responsible for all the terrorism, torture and genocidal movements and his propaganda is paid for by the cartels. He may try and divert attention by blaming the patrician Bush clan, but there are enough of witnesses in this Farenheit 451 to carry the message along.

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